r/judo • u/AdAdministrative2076 • 6d ago
General Training Name of throw
Hey, whats the name of this throw. Sorry for the slight buffer and low quality in the clip, i had to retrieve it from another post online.
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u/Various-Stretch2853 6d ago
Pretty sure Soto-makikomi. Even though its somewhat lacking in fluidity, i do see a sacrifice at the core, so no hip techniques and then we land at soto-makikomi. For others there is missing leg action, wrong direction etc
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u/Josinvocs ikkyu 6d ago
O-tsuri-goshi - tsuri-goshi with an over the top grip. The fact that you went with the throw dont make it a makikomi tecnique. My point of view.
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u/According_Fail_990 nidan 6d ago
Soto makikomi is my favourite throw, and in my experience your right arm is wrapping around their arm and you’re turning further to get your ukemi in. I agree this looks more like a tsuri goshi off a cross grip.
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u/Josinvocs ikkyu 6d ago
Yes. Soto makikomi its done with a wraping around motion in which tori sacrifices his own center of mass to drag uke with him. In this throw in the video, tori crearly lifts uke with his hips, while he is standing still, and only falls to the ground as part of the kake to complete the tecnique.
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u/Otherwise-Comment689 6d ago
The finish was very Greco-Roman, back to chest lol
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u/AdAdministrative2076 6d ago
I thought greco roman wrestling was no sacrifice throws??? Im not sure tho lol
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u/Otherwise-Comment689 6d ago
Not exactly, and you'll still score points if they're flat on their back regardless of your position on top of them
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u/EchoingUnion 5d ago
Tsuri goshi, definitely not soto makikomi like many are saying (or any makikomi throw, for that matter).
I don't think many of the commenters know what makikomi even means. There was no "wrapping" motion from tori here. Tori maintained his right hand grip the entire time.
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u/ImaginaryJellyfish48 5d ago
You can keep the grip over the back and still get makikomi tori just needs to put the hips fully through to get the winding.
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u/AdAdministrative2076 5d ago
Makikomi is about winding i know that, many people assume that anything done from a Georgian grip should have “makikomi” thrown in as a suffix, when in general, and in this case, it lacks the twisting action.
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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu 6d ago
Feels like we gotta make up a new name for these over the back Georgian style things.
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u/AdAdministrative2076 5d ago
Honestly that would be a good idea, i feel like people make so many throw variations , and variations of the variations at that point it becomes a whole new throw.
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u/Living-Chipmunk-87 6d ago
Soto makikomi. Almost with a wannabe Harai in there too but not quite.
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u/AdAdministrative2076 5d ago
Yea i wanted it to be a harai-makikomi but it definitely wasnt because i failed in the end.
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u/Living-Chipmunk-87 5d ago
I wouldn't consider it a fail. Maybe it wasn't the most beautiful execution, but it worked.
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u/AdAdministrative2076 4d ago
I will call it a “practical” execution 😭🙏
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u/Living-Chipmunk-87 4d ago
Well at 53, I finally got my black belt...my judo is still pretty ugly so I wouldn't worry about it too much at this point. It worked, and yes, a perfect throw is a perfect throw , but a winning throw is a winning throw too. Keep working, you are doing just fine.
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u/MyPenlsBroke 5d ago
You said you were going for harai makikomi. So that's what it was. The real question is "How good of a harai makikomi was it?" and the answer is "Good enough for the ippon."
Naming throws is for grading, not contest.
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u/Emperor_of_All 6d ago
I would say a version of soto makikomi? it looks like an attempt at a koshi guruma but ends up being a soto makikomi.