r/judo • u/savavannanah • 1d ago
Beginner my first throw! feedback appreciated (:
been going for about a month and a half and this is the only throw i can do right now! next month i believe we will start learning a new one. any tips before my class moves on to another throw are very appreciated !!!
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u/RatKR 1d ago
Congratulations! My advice. Learn proper standing Kodokan judo as you proceed. Save drops for when you are deeper in.
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u/savavannanah 1d ago
thank u! when doing drills, they let us do any variation of seoi nage, so i’ll ask for help with doing it standing next class
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u/frdayeen nidan 1d ago
Good job. Try to push your hip closer to your partner. It will make things easier. 🙂
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u/yoshiaki15 1d ago
On your entry, make sure the Uke’s body is pressed up against yours. You don’t want a gap between your bodies for this throw. Just make sure you’re not falling back into them either to close that gap. Good follow through. Once you get more advanced, make sure to hold the uke’s sleeve to protect them at first, then in competition to follow up with ground work.
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u/JudoboyWalex 1d ago
Learn standing ippon seoi nage first. Need better kuzushi, don’t pull down, but do pull straight. Also clamp the arm pit not the elbow.
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u/amsterdamjudo 1d ago
Old Sensei here. I have been teaching Judo for 40 years. I don’t teach my beginners knee drop shoulder throw. It is unsafe for your knees and your partner/opponent’s head and neck/spine.
Good judo is safe judo. Be safe🥋
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u/According_Fail_990 nidan 1d ago
Good start! Welcome to judo!
Long term, you want to throw your Uke more over you rather than around you, so you want to lift your hands a bit more on the pull. For that you’ll want the left hand pulling up as well as forward, the right arm gripping towards their shoulder rather than at the elbow, and pulling their chest on to your shoulders rather than pulling them around your body. But that all takes a while to put together so I wouldn’t sweat it too much yet.
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u/SucksAtJudo 1d ago
The only advice I will give at your level is listen to your coach and keep training.
Success in judo, like anything else in life, is largely just about showing up.
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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu 1d ago
Your back isn't connected enough to their chest, lot of space between for uke to worm out if this was live. Since your sensei permits whatever variation here, I'd throw from a right lapel instead of right sleeve. Its a lot tighter that way.
Your knees are not going to enjoy that drop technique at all, you should learn to 'airplane' slide onto your shins or consider a single knee drop if you really want to use this technique more often.
You do rotate well, and finish the throw at a good angle with right shoulder forwards. This is good and should be maintained.
Honestly though? I would stick to standing Ippon Seoi Nage as everyone else advises. This is not something white belts should learn. My first dojo straight up didn't allow it until orange... though I suspect part of that is because the head master looked down on sutemi-waza lol.
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u/sD3sign_es shodan 1d ago
You won't have knees at 40 if you continue like that, train the basic technique. Everything else is fine, keep going on and have fun training !!
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u/Far_Tree_5200 bjj 1d ago
Not a good throw to practice with your experience level. Either way, ask your instructor for help.
The biggest thing I can tell you is that there’s to much space between your right hip and their right hip.
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u/Party-Relationship41 1d ago
Do not drop on the knees….. bad for learning the principle of the throw! And bad for the knees I agree with the other comments, strange pick for a first throw.
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u/Heavy_Newspaper_5546 18h ago
First throws traditionally taught would usually be ogoshi, ippon seoi and osoto. No kneeling seois or hooking osotos for beginners as these are modified techniques. Also your knees will suffer. I have knees of an old man due to my kneeling morote seois.
Heavy newspaper sensei 1st dan
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u/Tomicoatl 14h ago
If it's your first throw and you're only training for a few months just do whatever your coaches are telling you, don't worry about random feedback online.
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u/StaysCold shodan + bjj brown belt 1d ago
My Feedback is: HELL YEAH KEEP TRAINING
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u/savavannanah 1d ago
thank u this is the exact motivation i need lmaoooo
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u/StaysCold shodan + bjj brown belt 1d ago
Stack pebbles make mountains my old instructor used to say.
Keep going bud.
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u/Freudian_Devil 1d ago
Looks good but you shouldnt use the matress for this. Uke wont learn proper ukemi and tori wont learn to control uke all the way through.
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u/BackflipsAway 1d ago
Good job! But why would someone start by teaching a beginner drop seoi nage 😭
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u/Milotiiic Ikkyu | M1 -u60kg | British Judo 23h ago
With your right hand, grab closer to the shoulder than the elbow and in live settings they won’t be able to slide around you so easily 💪
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u/Gen1folife 20h ago
+1 for hand placement. You really want to shove your hand underneath the armpit, and lock it up, looks alittle loose. Your also pretty far away from him, if this was an attempted randori throw i would counter throw or pull grips right away.
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u/blackkluster 19h ago
Well atleast you won the competition of "worst face sensor attempt of the decade", gratz!
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u/feel_SPECIAL2015 16h ago
Before you drop, make sure that your body and your uke's body doesn't have any gaps for easier execution of your chosen technique
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u/Micky7Tube_ 16h ago
Good Job and Welcome to Judo!
First I'd suggest learning standing Ippon Seoi Nage, or any technique in general, as it helps your form and movements overall (the moment you want to do a drop version you just have to add the drop, hence making it easier to keep the form during the ordeal!)
That said I only have two things to say about the tech, the first is to stick closer to your Uke as the more contact you have the better it is as you have a greater pull (due to gravity and better off-balancing of your opponent). The second is that when you go grab the Uke's arm you place your hand towards his elbow, instead try to place your arm as close as possible to his armpit and hold the bicep(if you can lock his arm in your inner elbow you'll get more stability and an easier time pulling). Both of these will result in your Uke falling frontally rather than circling around you.
Keep up the hard work, move at your own peace and enjoy every moment !
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u/Flashliteman sankyu 12h ago
One key thing for an effective drop seio nage, is that your first step should be a deep entry step between your uke's legs, so when you turn and drop you're right up close to them. Also, you are way too far from your uke, your body should be making contact with theirs. (Invade their personal space)
This is a more advanced version of seio nage, and that's usually not learned until yellow/orange. Be careful and mindful of your uke's shoulder. Work on Ippon first before going into the drop, that will help better understand the mechanics of the throw, also balance, and good kuzushi!
Keep training!
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u/Kalernor 4h ago
Love seeing new people get into Judo, hope you're enjoying it!
Clamp the armpit not their arm. Throw over your shoulder by bending your knees and getting lower than your opponents hip and then extending your knees as you throw them (like your knees should have a bit of a spring motion). Atm, you are pulling them around your side rather than throwing them over your shoulder. There's more to fix but start with these.
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u/judofox1 godan 1d ago
I will not comment you throw, it wouldn't be fair. It shouldn't be the first throw on the list for beginners.