r/lebanon • u/djuzeif • Sep 23 '24

Culture / History Unity under one flag only

Power comes in unity under one national identity.

No ideology surpasses the significance of your own land and people.

God protect our Southern civilians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Go away, why are you here Zio… you’re all so desperate and obsessed with Lebanon and Palestine. Go lurk your own genocide sub …

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Being anti-Hezb doesn't make him/her a Zionist .

Being pro-Hezb , however , makes me question if your loyalty really lies within Iran or within Lebanon ....

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Iran defending Lebanon ? Yea right...Iran wants to turn Lebanon into its own proxy Islamic state . Not gonna happen .

Also , if the army is gonna attack Hezbollah, it would ignite a huge conflict that will devastate the country more than what's happening right now . Without mentioning that Hezbollah has far more powerful weapons given by Iran , while the army just has the basics like M16 and ammo that's all 😐

A Hezbollah victory in this scenario would be....let's just say... completely undesirable 💀

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

I’m anti empire, anti US and Israel. People here think Iran is the bad guy whilst the US occupies a third of Syria and has occupations and bases all over the Middle East stealing their oil, taking their land, funding isis and Al quada. People need to actually deep dive into geopolitics beyond what legacy media tells them. Try seeking out independent journalism instead of letting propaganda campaigns encouraging sectarianism in our communities control the way you think.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

So you're anti empire but have no problem with Iran trying to create puppet states?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Please tell me when’s the last time Iran invaded, bombed to pieces, occupied, put its bases in other countries, or sanctioned any other foreign states? P

They have allies, they aren’t puppet states. Learn the difference.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

It funds terror groups in Lebanon and Yemen, these groups attack civilians, look at the houthis firing Iranian missiles at cargo ships filled with civilians, they do this because Iran wants them to, they are an Iranian puppet. Lebanese people don't want Hezbollah because they bring nothing but death and destruction for Lebanese, they are funded by Iran, they are an Iranian puppet. So by proxy Iran is attacking other countries, occupying them and therefore has bases and I think attacking anything they claim is Israeli definitely counts as sanctioning. Iran also bombed Syria, Iraq and Pakistan in January.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

None of that stuff Iran has done. You just described to me actions by Yemen, in which case you got details completely wrong. Of all of the operations in the Red Sea by the Houthis, no civilian was killed or harmed. They took hostages. The other operations were against military.

Hezbollah are allies with Iran. That’s usually something all states have. Allies. Especially when you’re up against the country that has ripped apart the Middle East and Africa.. you remember Iraq and Libya yeah?

You can keep saying Iran bad, Iran puppet all you like but you still haven’t answered my question.

When’s the last time Iran carpet bombed a country, did a coup on a country and tried to control their president or government? Illegally occupied a country for its oil?? Please… I’ll wait.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

But Iran has done those things, Yemen isn't doing it the houthis are, who are backed and funded by Iran. Civilians have been killed and taking hostages is still terrorism, yes you're right they did attempt to attack warships too, but they were there because houthis were firing missiles at merchant vessels and killing civilians. Hezbollah aren't allies with Iran, they are funded and controlled by Iran, both Hezbollah and houthis are terrorist organisations so what does this say about Iran? None of those last things matter those aren't the only things that make countries bad, Iran has fucking morality police to force women into wearing what the government tells them to, that is terrible women were imprisoned for protesting this and the government said they should be raped and then executed. Iran has no freedom, democracy or human rights and funds terrorism,.so yes, Iran absolutely is a bad country.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Taking hostages for political purposes isn’t terrorism, they are prisoners of war. They were warned not to come into their territory.. and they didn’t listen. Yemen has a right to take them. Again, no civilians were killed by the Houthis so stop spreading fake information.

As for the rest, I’m not going to bother with the rest of your propaganda when your governments are committing war crimes daily, every day getting eve worse than the next. Israel is a terrorist state and the US is a terrorist empire.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

First of all , I do my own research . I'm not a BBC or CNN enthusiast.

Second of all , Iran isn't the bad guy ? Look pal....I don't know where u live....

But Iran has their own military group ...in a foreign country , that never consented to having an Iranian backed and militarized group operating in the entire South and putting the civilians and the entire population of this country at risk ...just because that Iranian group has orders from Tehran to kill as many Israelis as they can and claiming that "what we're doing is just to support the Palestinians" ...while completely endangering our own people.

Our people aren't willing to die for anyone alright, our country is in NO SHAPE to "save the palestinians" by attacking Israel .

If u wanna fight Israel , I'll gladly buy u a ticket straight to Gaza to fight them there .

I'd rather not have my country turned into a Gaza though thanks .

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

You’re literally blaming David when they are up against Goliath.

US, France, the UK and Israel are all trying to position themselves to control more countries and resources across the Middle East …

America and Israel occupies a third of Syria, invaded and bombed Yemen, Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan to bits and has occupations and bases all over the Middle East and Africa stealing their oil, taking their land, like I said they literally fund and train isis and Al Qaeda to help them in the region. Just now in Iraq they were meant to withdraw bases with extreme pressure from the Iraqi government… and what did they do? Released 1000 isis fighters back into Iraq.. Iran is the only country they don’t occupy… wonder why they make them out to be the bad guy 🤔 they want their independence, they want their own currency and they want their own resources.. they don’t want to be involved with western countries. Just like Gaddafi dissented and tried to do in Libya before they assassinated him and then bombed Libya to pieces…

Just like they did in Syria when Israel and America funded the coup..

Just like they did to Yemen with saudis support $.

Just like they tried to do to lebanon in 2006. If Hezbollah didn’t fight them off lebanon would be occupied..

Why do you think the resistance axis are allies in the first place.. because they are up against empire.

Israeli politicians have declared on national tv countless times they want to take over Lebanon.

There is so much information on geo politics covering all this but people just buy into the Iran bad/US good.

They make everyone out to be bad that they are trying to control and exploit …

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

My brother in Christ, I never said the US is the good guy , I ain't gonna dive into the imperialist ambitions of the US .

I took geopolitics classes and wrote countless of essays on why the US is an evil empire .

But this isn't what I'm talking about, and u completely missed my point .

Yk what , I'm gonna make it short , I want the palestinians to live properly but not for a price that I'm gonna pay , not for a price that my country is gonna pay , not for a price that my fellow citizens are gonna pay .

We are NOT willing to die to save other people, we are in NO SHAPE to do so .

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

You literally tried to pull the Iran bad card from the US imperial play book.. sitting there and blaming Iran for the US and Israel’s bully behaviour is just a cop out.. when you could have just said, I don’t give a fuck about making sacrifices nor do I want to.

Lebanon agreed to ceasefire deals alongside Hamas months ago through Egypt and Qatar before Netanyahu sabotaged them and rejected them … then launched the pager attack.

Hezbollah have repeated they are still on board with the ceasefire deal countless times over. It could have ended months ago. So stop blaming Hezbollah and Iran when it’s Israel who keeps messing with diplomacy and negotiations and acting like terrorists.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Buddy , Nasrallah said "we will keep fighting until a ceasefire deal is reached"

Thing is that , Israel wants Hamas totally out of Gaza , but Hamas wants to keep their forces there , they don't want to leave , that's why no deal has been reached .

Besides that , I'm telling u again, if u want to save Gaza , just go enlist in Hezbollah, go fight in Gaza if ur willing to die . But it is completely unjustifiable saying that ur willing to sacrifice the lives of ur country and fellow citizens for that . The majority of people aren't willing to fight and die pal

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Hamas has a right to stay in Gaza, it’s their land and territory and Israel is illegally sieging it and illegally occupying the West Bank. They have no right to decide anything about Gaza or the West Bank.

So again, justifying Bibi sabotaging ceasefire deals by adding on extra conditions that he knows are unattainable when he already agreed to the previous one.. is not a good look for you.

As for the rest.. not going to bother because it’s a stupid point to make.

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u/Dixizi Sep 23 '24

Iranian here , our government is shit

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Not as shit as the US and Israel

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Idk im pretty sure the citizens living in the US and Israel have a much higher standard of living.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '24

There are more homeless in the US than Iran. More divorce. More domestic violence. More imprisonment. More crime. Israel is home the most convicted peodophiles in the world. World Stats and data will tell you this.

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u/EmperorChaos Lebanese are not Arab and are not Phoenicians. We are Lebanese. Sep 23 '24

The Iranian government is infinitely worse than the US or Israel, and why are you arguing with an Iranian?

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u/lol_fi Sep 23 '24

You're Australian

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Okay hazballa bot

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u/Bumbo_Engine Sep 23 '24

You don’t actually care about genocide do you? Also, I like the cut off point only applying to Jews, as if there was nothing before them, and everything after them doesn’t count. The nations of the world for the most part have come to an agreement that we shouldn’t invade each other after WW2, Israel slyly did just that, and is now trying to get away with it with the help of propagandists like yourself. Sadly they most likely will get away with it.

You are very much like cartoon villains, bragging about your crimes, bragging about how you’re god’s favourite people, dancing in front of tragedy, mocking the less fortunate, being brutally violent, especially towards those who can’t fight back. I don’t know how you’ve managed to trick the world, but anyone who lives near you knows who and what you are.

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u/FeeedMeBagels Sep 23 '24

It’s the only religion denied its ancestral homeland. And your odd caricature is pure anti semitism, you are without shame. Genocide appals me, as it does all Jews and Israelis who deserve to be called those terms. And right now me and many others are primarily concerned with the well being of decent Lebanese people. Put down your hatred, it doesn’t serve you or anyone else.

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u/Bumbo_Engine Sep 23 '24

It was denied its ancestral homeland unfortunately, and a peaceful path to that homeland was opened for you, instead your country chose to kill British troops and officials, massacre Arab villages, and much much more, all under the protection of the United Nations, which was naturally stabbed in the back as the years went by. I don’t pretend Palestinians were innocent either, but really neither of you should say anything about shame, given your despicable past, present, and future

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u/FeeedMeBagels Sep 23 '24

Show me a country without a despicable history.

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u/Bumbo_Engine Sep 23 '24

I’m more concerned about what a country does with that history, Israel so far seems to gleefully enjoy recreating it day to day, with maybe less rape since the cameras are rolling (if they can’t kill the journalists first)

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u/Bumbo_Engine Sep 23 '24

Now if Israel executes every former member of Irgun, hands over Bezalel Smotrich to Hamas, and maybe tries to apologise for anything they’ve ever done, I’d be more inclined to not see them as miniature Nazi Germany

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u/Bumbo_Engine Sep 23 '24

Sorry if I got a little heated there, but your propaganda is the most obnoxious in the world, and it drives me mad. I actually do want peace. Is this what hasbara is? Have I been hasbara’d?

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u/Belugias Sep 23 '24

Palestine is Not their ancestral homeland. Iraq is.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

“Agreed not to invade” right…considering America and Israel occupies a third of Syria, invaded and bombed Yemen, Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan to bits and has occupations and bases all over the Middle East and Africa stealing their oil, taking their land, funding isis and Al quada. Iran is the only country it doesn’t occupy… wonder why they make them out to be the bad guy 🤔 You need to actually deep dive into geopolitics beyond what funded legacy media tells you. Try seeking out independent journalism and books written by political scientists instead of letting propaganda campaigns rot your brain.