r/lebanon • u/djuzeif • Sep 23 '24

Culture / History Unity under one flag only

Power comes in unity under one national identity.

No ideology surpasses the significance of your own land and people.

God protect our Southern civilians.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Go away, why are you here Zio… you’re all so desperate and obsessed with Lebanon and Palestine. Go lurk your own genocide sub …

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Being anti-Hezb doesn't make him/her a Zionist .

Being pro-Hezb , however , makes me question if your loyalty really lies within Iran or within Lebanon ....

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

I’m anti empire, anti US and Israel. People here think Iran is the bad guy whilst the US occupies a third of Syria and has occupations and bases all over the Middle East stealing their oil, taking their land, funding isis and Al quada. People need to actually deep dive into geopolitics beyond what legacy media tells them. Try seeking out independent journalism instead of letting propaganda campaigns encouraging sectarianism in our communities control the way you think.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

So you're anti empire but have no problem with Iran trying to create puppet states?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Please tell me when’s the last time Iran invaded, bombed to pieces, occupied, put its bases in other countries, or sanctioned any other foreign states? P

They have allies, they aren’t puppet states. Learn the difference.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

It funds terror groups in Lebanon and Yemen, these groups attack civilians, look at the houthis firing Iranian missiles at cargo ships filled with civilians, they do this because Iran wants them to, they are an Iranian puppet. Lebanese people don't want Hezbollah because they bring nothing but death and destruction for Lebanese, they are funded by Iran, they are an Iranian puppet. So by proxy Iran is attacking other countries, occupying them and therefore has bases and I think attacking anything they claim is Israeli definitely counts as sanctioning. Iran also bombed Syria, Iraq and Pakistan in January.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

None of that stuff Iran has done. You just described to me actions by Yemen, in which case you got details completely wrong. Of all of the operations in the Red Sea by the Houthis, no civilian was killed or harmed. They took hostages. The other operations were against military.

Hezbollah are allies with Iran. That’s usually something all states have. Allies. Especially when you’re up against the country that has ripped apart the Middle East and Africa.. you remember Iraq and Libya yeah?

You can keep saying Iran bad, Iran puppet all you like but you still haven’t answered my question.

When’s the last time Iran carpet bombed a country, did a coup on a country and tried to control their president or government? Illegally occupied a country for its oil?? Please… I’ll wait.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

But Iran has done those things, Yemen isn't doing it the houthis are, who are backed and funded by Iran. Civilians have been killed and taking hostages is still terrorism, yes you're right they did attempt to attack warships too, but they were there because houthis were firing missiles at merchant vessels and killing civilians. Hezbollah aren't allies with Iran, they are funded and controlled by Iran, both Hezbollah and houthis are terrorist organisations so what does this say about Iran? None of those last things matter those aren't the only things that make countries bad, Iran has fucking morality police to force women into wearing what the government tells them to, that is terrible women were imprisoned for protesting this and the government said they should be raped and then executed. Iran has no freedom, democracy or human rights and funds terrorism,.so yes, Iran absolutely is a bad country.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

Taking hostages for political purposes isn’t terrorism, they are prisoners of war. They were warned not to come into their territory.. and they didn’t listen. Yemen has a right to take them. Again, no civilians were killed by the Houthis so stop spreading fake information.

As for the rest, I’m not going to bother with the rest of your propaganda when your governments are committing war crimes daily, every day getting eve worse than the next. Israel is a terrorist state and the US is a terrorist empire.

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

It's not a prisoner of war if there is no war and civilians cannot be taken as prisoners of war, civilians can only be interned if they are a threat or the civilians are in danger and they must be released when there is no danger, so what the houthis are doing can be considered a war crime.it's also not their territory it's an international shipping route. It's not Yemen doing anything it's Iranian backed terrorists who took over the country with Iran's support https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68490695.amp They did kill civilians, it's not fake information. You're ignoring my points even though they are true, it doesn't matter what other governments do, it is absolutely true that Iran forces women to wear a hijab which means it's restricting individual freedoms and enforcing religion. Using other governments actions to justify support for a country causing instability shows that you don't support them in good faith but do so because you do not support western governments, you're doing the exact same thing as the people you are against

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24

They were Israeli ships, they were told and warned before hand not to enter Yemenis territory. They had every right to take the hostages and siege the ship as a part of the war with Israel.

Irans laws around hijab is just like your laws to not be nude in public. They are laws set by the culture and religion of the country, it’s not up to us to dictate another countries internal politics or force western values on them. The US still has the death penalty and 20% of those killed are innocent. There is no difference between Iran and the US death penalty, except you just use it for propaganda talking points. Iran is not committing apartheid or genocide, or breaking war crimes like Israel is. So take your shitty hasbara talking points and shove them up your arse 😘

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u/Appropriate-Leg-2025 Sep 23 '24

They were not Israeli ships this is just what the houthis claim, the houthis are terrorists not the yemini government, they don't dictate who can and can't enter yemens territory. No they didn't have any right to take hostages because even if Yemen was at war with Israel (it isn't) they don't have a right to kill civilians and take hostages from ships unaffiliated with Israel and are required to release them immediately by international law. We have nude beaches and our laws do not enforce religion nor do we enforce anyone to wear specific religious clothing because this infringes on religious freedom rights. You are correct in saying the laws are set by all those things, but that isn't a good thing, a government should not be enforcing religion, you are advocating for governments to take citizens choice of belief away, I'm unsure why you are bringing up the death penalty as I don't support it I'm not using it for propaganda talking points it's not close to a comparison when what I said was that the government wanted women to be raped and then executed for not wearing a hijab, in very few American states on rare occasions people convicted of murder are put to death, you didn't even try to argue the rape part. I disagree that Israel does those things but that doesn't matter because it's whataboutism anyway, Iran does enforce religion and only let's religious people have power, oppresses women and forces people to follow a religion, I'm struggling to see how that's better than apartheid, Iran funds the houthis, their flag says "death to Jews" therefore Iran supports genocide. Nothing at any point has been "hasbara" it's been objective truths with evidence. You live in Australia and disagree with Lebanese people living in Lebanon who are against Iran, if you love Iran so much go and live there you will hate it and don't forget that marital rape is legal in Iran so enjoy yourself.

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