She doesn't hate lolicons. She was calling her dad out for being a pervert.
I have a friend in Japan, and I asked him about lolicons and shotacons and all that because I wanted to know what the whole story was surrounding that.
TL;DR - Enjoying drawn younger characters (lolis or shotas) has a far different stigma to it than it would in the West. While some might call you a pervert, they're usually just doing it to tease you.
Long answer - It's more or less widely accepted that you have people who're physically attracted to younger characters on both sides of the aisle. Look at Japanese media. You have girls admitting they like lolis and shotas, you have guys admitting to liking lolis. Take a look at Hololive. You have talents on there that readily admit to it. My friend even went as far as to tell me that while some can use 'lolicon' synonymously with P-file, the stigma is far less profound than in the West.
This is why, on an anime rated for kids and young teens, you have this scene. In fact, you can find this kind of thing, and even fan service, in a lot of anime.
Japan has a very precise relationship surrounding this kind of thing. As long as you're not being a creep with actual girls/boys, then people usually won't judge you too harshly, unlike the West.
Case in point; I have another friend, she's married, has two adorable daughters. I made a joke about something surrounding cute lolis in Blue Archive. She called me a pervert, but she still considers me her best friend and wants me to be the uncle for her two daughters and basically THE family friend. You know how every family has THAT friend that's basically an honorary family member.
i think in the west ppl think that way because our animation is much more stylized, so when they watch anime, with more realistic drawing and writing they see real persons (lucky star is not very realistic anyways)
Nah that probably is going to be you. Especially after that subreddit got outed for weirdly having a high amount of adults in their 40s pretending to be teenagers.
People can't help who they're attracted to. There's been a distressing amount of effort put into making people do that, and it never works. You can shock them, you can hit them, you can tell them to read books about how awful they are, all that winds up happening, even if the person in question agrees, is psychological trauma.
Thinking gross things does not mean they happen. It does not mean the consequences of those actions happen. Indeed, statistics show the VAST majority of people attracted to minors have never, and do never, actually touch kids.
In my experience in Law Enforcement I found that there are PDFs everywhere. Like, it's a not-statistically-insignificant fraction of the population. The vast majority of them never did anything to hurt anybody. 90% of the cases that WERE illegal and not just a massive waste of LEO time and resources, the perpetrator was calm, compliant, and generally very well-behaved. Indeed, I preferred working with them if I had jail duty. This was the military, so most of the time if you had someone in legal trouble they were belligerent and aggressive, if not necessarily violent.
I don't think people should go to jail for jorkin' it to the wrong thing. I don't think people should go to jail at all if they haven't hurt anyone. I don't think it's fair to just assume someone is a threat because they like something you think is gross. I think people need to be more understanding of others.
And I think we shouldn't purposefully exclude segments of the population and shun them because of something they can't help, because that's a quick way to send them down the alt-right pipeline to become a nazi. Nazis actually DO hurt people. And they're the way they are almost always because someone hurt them first.
Gen Z seems to think anyone who has jerked off to porn is a porn addict 100% of the time and if you try to call them out for this they call you a gooner. I’m starting to believe our sexual health is fucked
one person with a functioning frontal lobe in this thread appears and they're downvoted to hell. no one here lives in japan, they just want an excuse to make weird jokes about fictional children. i thought ppl had understood this shit was weird a while ago but pfiles still use this app consistently apparently.
Do you actually know, or are you just speculating?
All of the Japanese people I've spoken to, and shown content that makes light of loli stuff, haven't been weirded out by it.
If you know nothing of Japanese culture, media, nuance, or otherwise the general consensus on things, probably shouldn't be speaking about it. Just saying.
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u/SimpleInterests Mar 11 '25
She doesn't hate lolicons. She was calling her dad out for being a pervert.
I have a friend in Japan, and I asked him about lolicons and shotacons and all that because I wanted to know what the whole story was surrounding that.
TL;DR - Enjoying drawn younger characters (lolis or shotas) has a far different stigma to it than it would in the West. While some might call you a pervert, they're usually just doing it to tease you.
Long answer - It's more or less widely accepted that you have people who're physically attracted to younger characters on both sides of the aisle. Look at Japanese media. You have girls admitting they like lolis and shotas, you have guys admitting to liking lolis. Take a look at Hololive. You have talents on there that readily admit to it. My friend even went as far as to tell me that while some can use 'lolicon' synonymously with P-file, the stigma is far less profound than in the West.
This is why, on an anime rated for kids and young teens, you have this scene. In fact, you can find this kind of thing, and even fan service, in a lot of anime.
Japan has a very precise relationship surrounding this kind of thing. As long as you're not being a creep with actual girls/boys, then people usually won't judge you too harshly, unlike the West.
Case in point; I have another friend, she's married, has two adorable daughters. I made a joke about something surrounding cute lolis in Blue Archive. She called me a pervert, but she still considers me her best friend and wants me to be the uncle for her two daughters and basically THE family friend. You know how every family has THAT friend that's basically an honorary family member.