Refreshing to see a different take on this movie that takes into account the absurd "politics" that are fooling people into thinking this is supposed to be anything other than a fun Marvel flick.
Too bad this'll probably be downvoted to hell since it aims to kill the buzz that's trending so hard right now.
This sub rides Marvel's dick to the moon every single time one of their films comes out. Why now that it's Black Panther are you acting like it's purely a politics thing?
Like, legit, the political thriller is not an inherently dignified genre like people make it out to be. It literally just means "any thriller with a possible political relation". 12 Days of the Condor is a bunch of action setpieces strung together by a plot about government organizations and dealings, and yet it's the genre's defining work.
It's annoying when people use the term as if automatically makes TWS an amazing movie, but it doesn't make TWS NOT a political thriller.
/r/movies also consists of thousands of unique posters who are online at different times so you're only overgeneralizing and not really proving anything.
It is a joke sub but you are missing the joke of it. The sub detects what the r/movies hoard parrots incessantly and then the sub just satirizes it ad nauseam. The comedy is in how trite, repetitive and shallow are most of the opinions people have about movies in r/movies.
Not acting like it’s purely a politics thing. Though the politics of it is propelling this movie’s consensus into something more than “it’s great!” (like most conversation around Marvel movies), but rather “it’s very important.” If it wasn’t for the politics, I’m sure the hype would still be there.
I get what you are saying, in a perfect world a movie like this would need the real world political angle. But we don't live in that perfect world. So the politics are important in how people will view this movie.
I am a 23-year-old white man. It would be easy for me to sit here and say that race shouldn't be an issue in movies. Because it isn't an issue for me. Because never have white men have not been represented in movies. So now that other groups are getting represented, I do think it is important to recognize and praise that. So that maybe the next generations can live in the perfect world where it is not important.
Because it clearly is purely political, with the backlash the negative criticisms have been getting from the movie being all made into racial shit slinging
I haven't seen or heard of any sort of backlash against negative criticisms of the movie, only people complaining about backlash and preemptively trying to counter act it despite there actually being little to none actually backlash.
There was literally an alt-right movement to intentionally bring down the Audience rating score on Rotten Tomatoes, peddled as a revolution against a conspiracy theory that Marvel was paying off critics to give Black Panther good reviews.
Yeah, this is Reddit. Speaking negatively about pretty much any recently released movie will get you downvoted. I got downvoted on the Disaster Artist thread for saying I just thought the movie was okay and a little disappointing.
Lots of people dont like a lot of marvel movies. Before Black Panther they were labelled DC fanboys or anti-superhero movie fans. Now they are Racist.
Marvel movies are really popular. Every one has flaws. Personally I only really like a few of them, some are awful. I only will rewatch maybe 5(First avengers, the first 2 captain americas, Antman, and Iron Man 1).
Honestly I think Thanos should have beat the Guardians of the Galaxy in the second movie, and taken the first infinity stone for his gauntlet. Having the Villain win early in the series would make the actual fight with the avengers more interesting. At this point Thanos hasnt done anything to warrant being the final villain of the Avengers.
I don't think that's a unpopular opinion. I do find it interesting that this is still the first MCU film where the main superhero and the majority of the main cast are black. And I don't think it's wrong for people wanting to go see the film just to support that (even if they may not often do so for other similar films).
But at the end of the day, my main motivation for going to see this movie will be the same main reason I have gone to see other superhero films: I like watching superhero films.
It amazes me how people have such difficulty not seeing the importance of representation when they, themselves, are always represented. Much like Wonder Woman before it.
Turns out, Wonder Woman was a solid movie and a better example of the Super hero genre.
Turns out, Black Panther is a solid movie and a better example of the Super Hero genre-- and an presents a damn good, logical, villain to boot.
Killmonger is evil because he believes in his father's cause: Wakanda could have helped oppressed people with their tech and they didn't. Also, they killed his father and took his (as a royal) chance at legacy and identity.
Thus, he goes for the throne and seeks to complete his father's mission (which only saddens the spirit of his father).
But I get it if you can only "lol" because you can't relate to that.
His father pulled a gun on the king. How is that an okay thing to do?
You are not in any way addressing his motivation. So why are you bringing it up? Also, he didn't pull the weapon on the king, he pulled it on Zuri.
The motive is not simply revenge, as I detailed.
All of the rest of that motivation, which I detailed and which is very clear in the movie, up to and including Killmongers speech towards the end, make that apparent.
I sincerely doubt you've actually seen this movie.
BTW: if you think the Vulture is justified in killing people because his motivation was the loss of his construction company, question your own moral code.
Good stories humanize their villains. You don't have to like them or agree with them. Indeed, villains like Magneto or The Joker are effective because they make arguments the audience might sympathize with.
As does Eric Killmonger. Which, again, is something you may not relate to.
There definitely was something relatable. His main driving factor was how tired he was of black people treated as second rate citizens when compared to white people. There are a lot of people who feel this way, you ignoramas. He thinks he can save them with violence. That is his endgame. The throne was just his way to get it done.
I don’t see the political shenanigans the media are shouting about either, it’s just another MCU movie and it’s nothing wrong with that. I do however see that this is an important movie for the young black boys and girls around the world. It is important to have someone to look up to and dream about and the characters are the strongest part of this movie, especially the female ones. Also do not watch this in 3D, it looks fine in 2D, but wow it looked awful in 3D.
Alot of people like this reviewer here so I don't think it will be too badly downvoted, and as he said given his reviews of other Marvel and superhero movies this shouldn't surprise anyone.
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u/Levi182 Feb 17 '18
Refreshing to see a different take on this movie that takes into account the absurd "politics" that are fooling people into thinking this is supposed to be anything other than a fun Marvel flick.
Too bad this'll probably be downvoted to hell since it aims to kill the buzz that's trending so hard right now.