r/movies Feb 17 '18

YMS - Black Panther

https://youtu.be/urBtAEObqoQ
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u/TLKv3 Feb 17 '18

I'm absolutely fine with people hating or disliking MARVEL movies at this point. They are cookie cutter movies and I can't defend that.

HOWEVER for him to use "these are just made to sell toys to children! Why are people being stabbed with spears with no bursts of blood!" type reasons as criticisms is just fucking dumb. These are PG rated movies to appeal to everyone not just adults. They're designed so anyone can go into one of them and have a fun enough time to deem the movie was worth watching. They aren't trying to make abstract masterpieces. Its been almost, what, 20-25 MCU movies released thus far and that's still a thing people are pointing out as if they expect something different?

I don't know. I enjoyed the movie. I'm fine if you didn't. But don't try to use dumb as fuck logic and insanely obnoxious counter-points to nitpick the movie. If you're going to bring negatives up about the movie then point out how half the movie is about retrieving Klaue and then sidelining him with a "death". Or about how little of Killmonger & his dad are shown to promote that bond and his revenge are actually worth seeking out.

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u/Khaos3118 Feb 17 '18

Adum is really obsessed with perfecting what his personal view on every movie ever made is on a spectrum of 0 to 10. Everything then to him needs to be compared to Michael Haneke movies and anything that Charlie Kaufman is involved in. So 'mainstream' or anything 'for kids' needs to be on the same spectrum with art house or Foreign language films or documentaries.

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u/PoonaniiPirate Feb 18 '18

As it should be. They are all movies. You cannot watch movies with the caveat that they are already bad so they should be on their own rating scale. That’s dumb. Just have a wider range of ratings that is acceptable. I consider 5/10 and 6/10 to be watchable movies but if you give that rating, people say you are not picking. Likenot including good movies as examples on your ratings u dercuts the importance of those good movies. If you take risks artistically and creatively, then execute successfully to create a good movie like a Haneke movie, you get the higher rating. You shouldn’t be given a pass as a “mindless movie” or a “superhero movie” and secure good ratings.

That’s just my personal opinion though. My rating scales for movies stays the same no matter which genre I watch. A movie like The Godfather deserves a higher rating than Wonder Woman to me and most people. If I apply the same nit picking attitude to The Godfather, I find very little. So I celebrate and enjoy, but also rate the movie higher. It’s so simple to me I wonder how people have difficulty.

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u/Dark1000 Feb 18 '18

Agreed. There are brilliants kids' films, brilliant action film, brilliant genre films, etc. There's no reason to accept crap just because it's in a specific genre or for kids.