r/movies Feb 17 '18

YMS - Black Panther

https://youtu.be/urBtAEObqoQ
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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18 edited Feb 17 '18

Why did he just say that the general public don't consider Best Picture winners 12 Years a Slave and Moonlight "important" films?

That's just a wrong statement.

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u/Pod-People-Person Feb 17 '18

Probably because those films aren't talked into an absurd frenzy like this one has been. And it's funny that he didn't mention Jordan Peele and Get Out or the fact that Steve McQueen has a new movie coming out this year.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

Adam isn't a good critic, like at all. He tries to pretend he's not super smug about his movie tastes but constantly demonstrates how he thinks the only people who like Marvel movies either never watch any arthouse movies, are loser fanboys or literal children. A lot of the points he makes in most review are either obvious nitpicks (which I've found in several cases to be dumb or explained by the movie) or really level-one analysis about the movie's themes. And his fans eat this shit up like candy because they can't wait to feel superior to people who liked a Disney or Marvel movie. It reminds me of that Hitchcock quote about why characters just don't go to the police, "they don't go to the police because its dull." Stop trying to outsmart every fucking movie you watch and find every flaw that shows it doesn't correlate with the real world, instead actually focus on what the movie is trying to say and fucking enjoy yourself.

Btw his criticism of Black Panther being made by a mega-corporate conglomerate making money for rich old dudes has been addressed by most critics, but as moviebob breaks down here maybe we should stop being buzzkills about people enjoying pop entertainment, especially when the subject matter in question (afro-futurism) hasn't been represented for most Americans.

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u/_SurfAMillionCouches Feb 17 '18

hates on YMS

links to MovieBlob

Opinion, invalid.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

Reminder that Movieblob supports eugenics and criminal treatment of people he disagrees with politically.

Edit: One such tweet of many: https://pics.me.me/bob-chipman-follow-the-moviebob-there-are-days-when-my-7011844.png

Tweet were he implies that conservatives are sub-human: https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/e/ec/LIBERAL_IDIOT.jpeg/600px-LIBERAL_IDIOT.jpeg

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u/juancorleone Feb 18 '18

What the fuck , seriously ?

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u/bloodlustshortcake Feb 19 '18

How is that relevant to his views on films ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

His views on film are also fairly rancid, but all his talk of Nazi-esque treatment of people he dislikes for various reasons are concerning. They speak of a deeply disturbed individual. For the record, the Your Movie Sucks guy is equally awful for his commentary on zoophilia.

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u/bloodlustshortcake Feb 19 '18

So?

Also, what the fuck does Adam's completely innocuous stance on zoofilia has to do with advocating actual genocide ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

I'm saying they're both unhinged in their own unique ways, and both are awful critics as well. It's not hard to figure out.

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u/bloodlustshortcake Feb 19 '18

No, you brought it up in regards to their movie critique, where it is irrelevant. And exactly how is Adam a an awful critic ?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18 edited Feb 19 '18

He brings up his political views in his own reviews every chance he gets, the guy is fucking in love with doing that. It's a challenge to find any of his videos without him rambling for at least one minute about his ideals, particularly since 2015.

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u/bloodlustshortcake Feb 19 '18

Yeah, but does this affect his actual analysis? Well, partially perhaps, but I don;t think it's a good basis to dismiss everything he has to say(coming from someone who hates moviebob)

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

His actual analysis is also rancid, filled with endless rambling, unnecessarily complicated wording and some jacque cousteau-levels of anal searching to pull whatever subtext (which is somehow related in some way to feminism like, around 80-90% of the time) he can find out of a movie. Not to mention how obviously biased and fanboyish he is - Not that it's really possible to ever be truly unbiased, but good reviewers can at least make an attempt to. Maybe not all of his opinions are worth dismissing but the way he presents them certainly is, and not a lot of people actually have nothing but dismiss-worthy ideas in their heads - Hitler was against animal cruelty, I don't think a lot of people are going to disagree with that just because Hitler thought so.

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u/DoubleTFan Feb 18 '18

Oh fucking please. That's like saying RLM wants to commit mass murder because Mike joked about having a ton of hurricanes hit Hollywood during his review of IT.

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u/Animyr Feb 18 '18

eugenics

Source? I keep hearing people say this and the only "proof" I've seen so far looked like joke tweets to me.

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u/DoubleTFan Feb 18 '18

That is their proof. It's people being willfully obtuse at best because MovieBob has said some liberal stuff and they want to smear him for it.

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u/Just_shut_up_bro Feb 18 '18

He has used weird eugenics terminology before but doesn't explicitly or even subliminally support any actual eugenics. And the support behind the whole nazi punching thing I hardly blame him for.

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u/Animyr Feb 18 '18

But the first pic clearly invokes eugenics ironically, despite what the caption insists. It's like saying "my workweek makes me wish a meteor would strike the earth and kill us all." It's a misanthropic joke, not a policy proposal.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

ironically

So the two possibilities are a) he believes in eugenics or b) he's just pretending to be retarded, in which case he's still a retard.

But to clarify, the answer is a). This isn't his first time speaking openly that eugenics was a good thing that was "merely misused and ruined" by Nazis. His worldview is essentially that of the Nazis, but he would go after conservatives and "dudebros" rather than Jews.

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u/Animyr Feb 19 '18

So the two possibilities are a) he believes in eugenics

Does the person who says they want a meteor to strike the earth actually want a mass extinction event? If someone gets cut off in traffic and says "people who cut me off in traffic should be gassed" they're certainly being vitriolic and immature and in poor taste, but are they seriously calling for death camps for aggressive drivers? Or are they being obviously hyperbolic?

Also he's clearly condemned eugenics as unethical on several other occasions. I notice that those tweets usually get left out of the "gotchya" collages.

the answer is a). This isn't his first time speaking openly that eugenics was a good thing that was "merely misused and ruined" by Nazis.

The other examples of him "praising eugenics" I've seen also didn't seem serious, same as this one, so offhand I don't find this persuasive.

"But he's also called for a meteor to strike the earth on other occasions, so clearly he's not joking."

b) he's just pretending to be retarded

This only works if the "joke" about the bad thing is indistinguishable from sincerely calling for the bad thing. See my above examples about meteor strikes and gassing.

His worldview is essentially that of the Nazis, but he would go after conservatives and "dudebros" rather than Jews.

Examples? I'm not contesting that Moviebob can be arrogant and vitriolic, but I've seen people try to demonstrate this "legit Nazi" thing before and the "evidence" was underwhelming at best imo. I see people in this thread accusing YMS of bestiality and I half suspect that won't pan out under close inspection either.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '18

If you jumped through any more hoops and did a bit more mental gymnastics you'd qualify for some kind of Olympic medal.

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u/Animyr Feb 19 '18

Pointing out that he's clearly joking, that he's condemned the thing you say he likes, and asking for clearer examples all seem like pretty straightforward responses to me. If even that is too twisty for you, what isn't?

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u/Just_shut_up_bro Feb 18 '18

Yikes, that's distressing.

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u/cash_718 Feb 18 '18

Except the fact that they weren't punching Nazi's but just people who disagreed with their politics.

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u/Just_shut_up_bro Feb 18 '18

I don't see how those things are mutually exclusive.

You can disagree with someone's politics and also be a nazi.