He’s also the type of person who thinks that animals can give consent to humans fucking them. Can’t really look up the video since I’m at work, but the guy has a lot of problems. Not even Mike or Jay are that fucking smug
Thank you for linking to the original video in the description so people can see the full argument, but I do not see why you left out so much of it. I stand by my controversial opinions. I do not believe that sex with animals should be encouraged, but I am wholeheartedly against imprisoning those who have had non-abusive sexual relations with animals. To say that there is no such thing is incredibly ignorant and illogical. Objective reasoning matters more to me than emotional gut responses. I do not believe in putting innocent people in jail just because "Eww, gross.".
From the comment section of the video linked by MaelMothersbaugh
What Adam has repeatedly said is that it is hypocritical for people to be punished for beastiality when more atrocious things (in his eyes) are being done such as selective breeding. He has never condoned beastiality.
Except he has not and has never said it is ok. He says it is hypocritical to punish those people when others who do more atrocious things have no reprecussions.
Hear me out: I don't think his argument here is entirely wrong. I'm a vegan so I obviously come at this from a different angle, but when he says its hypocritical to kill, forcibly inseminate, imprison, and abuse animals but draw the line at beastilaity, I think that's true. We already sexually violate cows to produce milk on a mass level and very few people seem to have a problem with it. I find all of it rather horrifying honestly, but if you're not a vegan, chances are your diet involves harming animals on a much worse/larger scale.
Sounds like someone's grown up in a society which excessively associates breasts with their use during sexual intercourse as opposed to, you know, the actual point of them.
A mother breastfeeding her children is not having a sexual experience on any level.
You're completely missing the point. What they're saying is in order to continue producing milk, cows have to repeatedly be artificially inseminated. That's the sexual violation they're taking about.
When I say sexual violation, I’m taking about artificial insemination. Forcing an animal to go through pregnancy presents a whole bunch of moral issues every step of the way, but the artificial insemination process is the only part I’d classify as sexual violation.
I mean, look up the methods used for artificial insemination. It's uncomfortable, non-consensual penetration of a cow, and used in the production of 99.99% of milk made for human consumption. I feel like that fits pretty much any definition of sexual violation. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not that's OK, because that's a whole other can of worms, but at least call it what it is.
Well, the way that we extract milk from cows involves artificial insemination. So, while it is possible to get it otherwise (still a non-consensual act, which is the argument people always make about beastiality), if you're drinking milk in a first world country, you're drinking milk produced through a process that involves artificial insemination. That's just how it's produced, even on small farms. You can find videos of it on Youtube; it involves inserting a whole human hand and a chilled metal rod into a cow's genitalia. If that were to be done on any human without their express consent, we would consider it sexual violation. If you want to draw a different line than me on animal ethics, so be it, but it should be a consistent line.
And to your last point, animals also have non-consensual sex with other animals, but clearly, we don't include that in what's "natural" and therefore acceptable.
I wouldn't even really call those vidoes reviews, they're just making fun of bad movies. Which is funny enough, but very different than actually analyzing them critically.
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