r/movies Feb 17 '18

YMS - Black Panther

https://youtu.be/urBtAEObqoQ
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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

Adam isn't a good critic, like at all. He tries to pretend he's not super smug about his movie tastes but constantly demonstrates how he thinks the only people who like Marvel movies either never watch any arthouse movies, are loser fanboys or literal children. A lot of the points he makes in most review are either obvious nitpicks (which I've found in several cases to be dumb or explained by the movie) or really level-one analysis about the movie's themes. And his fans eat this shit up like candy because they can't wait to feel superior to people who liked a Disney or Marvel movie. It reminds me of that Hitchcock quote about why characters just don't go to the police, "they don't go to the police because its dull." Stop trying to outsmart every fucking movie you watch and find every flaw that shows it doesn't correlate with the real world, instead actually focus on what the movie is trying to say and fucking enjoy yourself.

Btw his criticism of Black Panther being made by a mega-corporate conglomerate making money for rich old dudes has been addressed by most critics, but as moviebob breaks down here maybe we should stop being buzzkills about people enjoying pop entertainment, especially when the subject matter in question (afro-futurism) hasn't been represented for most Americans.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

I'm not huge on most Marvel movies, I don't have a desire to watch half of them again, but this guy takes smug to a next level when reviewing them. Like we get it, you're a kino connoisseur who is above the tastes of the simpleton masses. Now shut up about it.

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u/Crowquillx Feb 17 '18

Like we get it, you're a kino connoisseur who is above the tastes of the simpleton masses.

Fucking hardly though.. the only pre 90s movies the dude has seen are Jodorowsky or Kubrick.

I don't know, I love his yearly lists but I think he tries way too hard to be a smug asshole in his reviews and it's just lame as hell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18 edited Feb 18 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

He’s also the type of person who thinks that animals can give consent to humans fucking them. Can’t really look up the video since I’m at work, but the guy has a lot of problems. Not even Mike or Jay are that fucking smug

Wait, like, he said it's okay to fuck animals?

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u/MaelMothersbaugh Feb 18 '18

here's the video i was talking about

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u/number90901 Feb 18 '18

Hear me out: I don't think his argument here is entirely wrong. I'm a vegan so I obviously come at this from a different angle, but when he says its hypocritical to kill, forcibly inseminate, imprison, and abuse animals but draw the line at beastilaity, I think that's true. We already sexually violate cows to produce milk on a mass level and very few people seem to have a problem with it. I find all of it rather horrifying honestly, but if you're not a vegan, chances are your diet involves harming animals on a much worse/larger scale.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18 edited Mar 13 '18

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u/number90901 Feb 18 '18

I mean, look up the methods used for artificial insemination. It's uncomfortable, non-consensual penetration of a cow, and used in the production of 99.99% of milk made for human consumption. I feel like that fits pretty much any definition of sexual violation. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not that's OK, because that's a whole other can of worms, but at least call it what it is.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18 edited Mar 13 '18

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u/NSFW_Jeanne Feb 18 '18

I think he's referring to them needing to be pregnant to lactate, which requires us to artificially inseminate them over and over again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

Extracting a cow's milk is part of that cycle.

Yeah, if you're a baby cow.

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u/number90901 Feb 18 '18

Well, the way that we extract milk from cows involves artificial insemination. So, while it is possible to get it otherwise (still a non-consensual act, which is the argument people always make about beastiality), if you're drinking milk in a first world country, you're drinking milk produced through a process that involves artificial insemination. That's just how it's produced, even on small farms. You can find videos of it on Youtube; it involves inserting a whole human hand and a chilled metal rod into a cow's genitalia. If that were to be done on any human without their express consent, we would consider it sexual violation. If you want to draw a different line than me on animal ethics, so be it, but it should be a consistent line.

And to your last point, animals also have non-consensual sex with other animals, but clearly, we don't include that in what's "natural" and therefore acceptable.

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