r/movies Feb 17 '18

YMS - Black Panther

https://youtu.be/urBtAEObqoQ
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u/Pod-People-Person Feb 17 '18

Probably because those films aren't talked into an absurd frenzy like this one has been. And it's funny that he didn't mention Jordan Peele and Get Out or the fact that Steve McQueen has a new movie coming out this year.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '18

Adam isn't a good critic, like at all. He tries to pretend he's not super smug about his movie tastes but constantly demonstrates how he thinks the only people who like Marvel movies either never watch any arthouse movies, are loser fanboys or literal children. A lot of the points he makes in most review are either obvious nitpicks (which I've found in several cases to be dumb or explained by the movie) or really level-one analysis about the movie's themes. And his fans eat this shit up like candy because they can't wait to feel superior to people who liked a Disney or Marvel movie. It reminds me of that Hitchcock quote about why characters just don't go to the police, "they don't go to the police because its dull." Stop trying to outsmart every fucking movie you watch and find every flaw that shows it doesn't correlate with the real world, instead actually focus on what the movie is trying to say and fucking enjoy yourself.

Btw his criticism of Black Panther being made by a mega-corporate conglomerate making money for rich old dudes has been addressed by most critics, but as moviebob breaks down here maybe we should stop being buzzkills about people enjoying pop entertainment, especially when the subject matter in question (afro-futurism) hasn't been represented for most Americans.

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u/MikeArrow Feb 17 '18

Nailed it. I had to stop watching YMS because of precisely these reasons. I enjoy watching him takedown a terrible movie like After Earth, but otherwise it's just a competition to see how snarky and cynical he can get, on top of willfully misinterpreting obvious stuff.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '18

I honestly found that After Earth "takedown" to be low hanging fruit. We get it, the movie sucked. We didn't need somebody to make an hour's worth of content to get the point across.

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u/BZenMojo Feb 18 '18

As much as I love Black Panther, and as much as I enjoy YMS, I have to come down against him on this one. I think he felt a 5/10 connection to the film and then just started going after Marvel for not making him feel the feelings he wants to feel about movies.

At a certain point, listening to him say "formulaic" over and over again without criticizing the film's ability to convey theme, character, or even specific issues with the plot was just... guh. These quick shots actually underserve his ability to get into why he feels a way about a thing and it seems like a waste of everyone's time.

If you want to see a real critique of a movie, go read Armand White's angry, contrarian firefest about Black Panther. I abso-fucking-lutely disagree with him, but he brings receipts, citations, and a topographical map explaining how he got to his point.

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u/Craizinho Feb 18 '18

Bro what does your 1st line even mean, he gives it an average rating because he didn't get the film he wants? Isn't that how reviews work and that with him he's laid out why he doesn't like Superhero popcorn flicks and that this is no different? Have you seen his films he recommends? Huge variety and is well capable of appreciating things that aren't just his personal tastes and guilty pleasures but are just well made films. To me it seems like you enjoyed it but go after him because you think it deserves to be better than 5/10 considering you like it

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u/BZenMojo Feb 18 '18

Bro what does your 1st line even mean, he gives it an average rating because he didn't get the film he wants?

I could care less what score he gave the film. There just wasn't any substance to the review, nothing specific about what he didn't like that wasn't just him talking about how he hates MCU movies, and this made it weak. White hated the film even more, but he actually explained why he hated it and justified his opinion.

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u/Craizinho Feb 18 '18

Yeah I can understand that, it's a quickie review where he just gives his personal quick thoughts with no spoilers/depth analysis to people who'd like a quick thought on it. What I don't get is what you said here:

I think he felt a 5/10 connection to the film and then just started going after Marvel for not making him feel the feelings he wants to feel about movies.

Are you trying to say his personal rating is wrong and low because he doesn't have an appreciation for what it is? Is that not every review ever? Why bring that up

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u/BZenMojo Feb 19 '18

You're replying to a post where I said I don't care about the score.

And you quote me criticizing him for critiquing the studio instead of the film.

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u/Craizinho Feb 19 '18

Yeah that's a bizarre critique I don't know why you think is noteworthy, it's not like Marvel isn't central to the film and all the other average summer action films it's relevant for him to bring up. I don't think that explains the line I quoted either