r/netflix • u/NamikazeKage • Jan 09 '25
Recommendation American Primeval on Netflix is damn good
It is frankly surprising that I found out the show existed randomly yesterday night when I came upon the IMDB most anticipated shows of 2025 and then by 3am the entire show released on Netflix. I wanted to watch one episode a day to pace myself but i just caved and binged the whole show, and it is the BEST western I've seen in YEARS. Highly recommend.
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u/eammth Jan 10 '25
After watching it, my only conclusion is:
I will never ever want to live in that age. Fked up world.
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u/DeceptionSubterfuge Jan 10 '25
I thought the same exact thing, like the amount of skill and luck you’d need just to survive in that era.
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
Yeah. I love to remind people that we are living in the absolute best times. Obv we should never settle and strive for better, but there is no better time to be alive
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u/LiangHu Jan 09 '25
the first 2 eps were insanely good, but then it slowed down, still a rly good show with some brutal kills, solid story and good acting.
this also couldve been a RDR movie if there is one
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u/Tirewipes Jan 11 '25
Slowed down?! Lmao the first 4 episodes are nuts, each with intense scenes
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u/ipityme Jan 26 '25
The show transitioned from a plain brutality over and over to developing the remaining characters through the second half. I thought it was beautifully written and the payoff in the last couple of episodes was 100% worth it.
But I suspect that some people felt that transition of the show slowing down, when I see it as the show using the backdrop it created to amplify the drama.
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u/Useful-Debt4412 Jan 11 '25
The whole time I was thinking that if they ever do a ln RDR series, then a lot of the people who worked on this should be involved.
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u/Upperechelonlady1111 Jan 09 '25
This series is intense, gory, and unflinchingly honest, capturing every angle of what happened back then between the Indigenous people, the Mormons, and the intermediaries. Packed into just six episodes, it delivers an unforgettable experience. I loved every minute from the stellar performances to the gripping storyline. The action, cinematic quality, and immersive storytelling truly make you feel like you’re right there in the moment.
It’s a lot to take in, and while I wish I hadn’t binged it all at once, I simply couldn’t stop myself. This is a modern western masterpiece a 10/10 that stands far apart from the old-school westerns. I have so much appreciation for the writers and production team; it was raw, emotional, and absolutely brilliant. By the final episode, I was holding back so many tears.
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u/Big_Sea7892 Jan 10 '25
Agree. Contrast American Primeval with Costner's Horizon. No contest at all--American Primeval wins, hands down--breadth, depth, story telling, characterization, cinematic excellence, acting and a sense that this is how life was on the frontier in the mid 1800's, unfiltered, unrefined. Eat your heart out Taylor Sheridan and Keven Costner. This is what you were trying for and missed.
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u/Then-Mall5071 Jan 10 '25
capturing every angle of what happened back then between the Indigenous people, the Mormons, and the intermediaries
Look at Wikipedia and see what it says under Mountain Meadows Massacre. It's very very different from the series. Enjoy it but don't take notes for history class.
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u/Then-Mall5071 Jan 10 '25 edited Jan 10 '25
Yes, it was far worse. There were fairly complex planning sessions that went into this attack.
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u/Affectionate_Hippo14 Jan 12 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
This is an example of what Mormons were capable of when left to their own devices. Local mormon communities planned and carried out the cowardly attack. The sad thing is only 1 mormon was ever punished for the massacre. Many of the people of those communities today are the direct descendants of the unpunished and unrepentant, cold blooded, cowardly child murderers who planned and executed the attack.
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u/Upstairs_Owl3663 Jan 11 '25
Great series. Love that Mormons are getting the negative publicity that they deserve. I know church elders are cringing at the moment. LOL
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
Yeah… I knew they were some bad jokers back in the day. But you just don’t see it play out often in mass media. Watched some with a friend who went to byu and he was like “now you see why I can’t believe we named a university after this guy”
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u/PowerLine2019 Jan 10 '25
Issac is one of my favorites so far as of ep 3. Watching the scene where he was gathering rocks with Devin, and then the French inbreds, I thought “man this guy reminds me of Tim Riggins,” and sure enough the actor playing him is the very same Taylor Kitsch.
Holloway is good, but she does not know when to step down and let Issac take the lead. She directly jeopardizes her group at least twice so far. Abish is great- like a more well thought out version of Mrs. Holloway and I find her character enjoyable with being independent and outspoken- even with Red Hawk.
Pratt’s story is interesting and I wonder how he will turn out as I finish the rest of the episodes. Not my favorite character but it was cool to see him piece together the pieces on who was behind the attack.
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u/Chet_Indigo Jan 11 '25
Yeah it's good but what annoys me is the money. People really didn't have all that much money back in the 19th century. Typical bounties ranged from $5 to $50. A deputy U.S. marshal might make around $50 a month during the 1880s, and less in the 1850s. When Sara Rowell offers Isaac $500 and then $750 for a simple escort job and he nonchalantly declines, you have to keep in mind that it would be around $20.000-$30.000 in todays money.
But okay, perhaps the job is just that dangerous and Sara is just that wealthy. But then we learn that Sara has a $1.500 bounty on her neck for killing her husband. THERE IS NO WAY A BOUNTY THAT HIGH WAS OFFERED FOR SIMPLY KILLING A HUSBAND, UNLESS HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. The ridiculously high bounties that WERE sometimes offered during the Old West times were typically offered by big money companies, railroad companies, stagecoach companies and banks, for notorious train robbers and such.
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u/Curiousier11 Jan 12 '25
I get the impression she had married into serious money and perhaps came from money herself. She was very well-spoken. Also, she was well into unsettled territories, or mostly unsettled. It would take a lot of money to convince someone to chase her and bring her back to Philadelphia. As for Isaac, he was more of a native mindset about money, and I think he had lost all taste for life. The ending of the series shows he had at least been reborn in a way and found some redemption in saving Sarah and her son, and Two Moons.
If a family had a million dollars, then they might offer a $1,500 bounty for the murderer of their son. The police put out a $100,000 bounty today for information on the death of the UHC CEO, and that was just for information, not bringing the person in themselves. It's true they won't see that money unless there is a conviction, but I'm just trying to make a point. Cornelius Vanderbilt was already extremely wealthy by 1857, and by the time he died in 1877, he was worth $105 million. There were plenty of others that were at least worth $1 million.
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u/Jonatc87 Jan 16 '25
"old money" it was said in ep 1. Which is usually inherited, successful business, pride. I could see a family putting money out there to save face.
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u/Inevitable_Flan_2912 Feb 05 '25
Took the words out of my mouth. I was going to say much the same, but you beat me to it. We hear a lot in the show about her ex, but not so much about who he was and where the came from. I can easily see some of these rich families willing to pay virtually anything to preserve the family name and reputation for posterity.
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u/Ltrgman Jan 13 '25
I think the embellishment regarding the amount of money is a story telling tactic to make the stakes feel higher with more urgency ~ $1K during the 1800s feel much more impactful than 50 bucks ~
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u/SnooMacarons3685 Jan 14 '25
It was the husbands family that put up the money. They even say it, he’s from old money.
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u/counterhit121 Jan 14 '25
The ridiculously high bounties that WERE sometimes offered during the Old West times were typically offered by big money companies, railroad companies, stagecoach companies and banks
Well it was stated that the guy Sarah killed came from a very well-to-do family with a lot of connections. 20-30k of today dollars doesn't seem obscene for a wealthy family seeking justice over a slain son, maybe even heir to the family fortune.
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u/rushdisciple Jan 09 '25
I can't say I particularly agree tbh. It's ok but nothing special. The main complaint I have is that the main female character is so fucking annoying, she keeps doing the exact opposite of what she's told. It's like "stay here" she doesn't stay there, "don't talk" she instantly starts talking. FFS.
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
Yeah I wish they would have dialed back her ignorance and found more creative ways to put them in bad situations. Also frustrating when a character like Isaac doesn’t fully explain himself.
Like the French weirdo scenes…he could have explained that he’s not being heartless and that they are probably being set up for ambush.
Could have had it play out quicker where maybe she sees the girl acting hurt and immediately acts on instinct to help and before Isaac can intervene they are ambushed.
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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner Jan 17 '25
I think for the French ambush it’s not about him thinking it’s an ambush but more on the fact that life out there sucks ass and you have to learn to survive or die. Not saying you’re wrong but that’s what I got out of why he didn’t want to help the girl. Also him not trying to get attached to people
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u/Jmac1960ss Jan 10 '25
Honestly her guide would have killed her after the f time she did not listen and almost hit him killed. I’m on episode 3 Snd this is third time she put his life at risk. WTF , the writers think we are stupid ir they are. I would have knocked her teeth out after first incident.
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u/tuckedfexas Jan 12 '25
Honestly, my wife and I are tearing our hair out at her constantly fucking everything up for everyone. Surely there were better ways to make the party get into trouble.
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
This 100%. She was dumb and Isaac was also not assertive enough. They definitely could have found more creative and less frustrating ways to have them get into bad situations.
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u/dontdodumb Jan 10 '25
I’m second episode in and about to turn it off because of her. She’s so painful to watch, yeah you’re on the run but did you not just see 10’s of people die around you, chased, and you still think you know better than everyone. She takes the suspension of disbelief away for me.
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u/cyclamenlove Jan 11 '25
I just finished episode 2 too and I was screaming at the TV "get on the fucking horse"!! That woman just does not listen.
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u/blame_this Jan 09 '25
Fucking for real.
I was hoping she would listen, at least once.
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u/schnitzelchowder Jan 12 '25
Makes sense though at this point she only had herself to trust and rely on, she didn’t fully trust Isaac or his intentions at first. She trusted her own gut which was wrong more times than not but she turns around towards the end.
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u/headinthesky Jan 10 '25
That situation with the kid was such an obvious trap, how could she be so stupid
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u/jermysteensydikpix Jan 11 '25
I saw that family and asked, "Is this a Rob Zombie movie?"
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u/Greengrecko Jan 11 '25
Honestly I thought everyone died and I would've taken the kid with me like you seriously thought the kid would be out here alone.
I wonder what happened to the kid considering all the French died but then they HAD the balls to try to bargain for there lives fuck that.
As for the kid they never shown what happened either the Mormon took her or the body hunters killed her.
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u/HandsomeBWunderbar Jan 09 '25
It's no Deadwood or Godless, that's for sure. It's dark and grimey but lacking something. You're spot on about the female lead, she is a walking, talking calamity.
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u/_lueless Jan 11 '25
Nothing is as good as Deadwood. I know it's not some people's cup of tea but it's brilliant.
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u/Curiousier11 Jan 12 '25
I'd agree Deadwood is the best "western" series I've watched. I wouldn't say it is better than all other westerns, including films. Also, as someone mentioned above, I really did enjoy Godless. Obviously Unforgiven is on the list, and Dances with Wolves.
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u/Inevitable_Flan_2912 Feb 05 '25
Fun fact: Godless is from the same guy who did The Queen's Gambit (Scott Frank). The Queen's Gambit is NOT a Western. It's damn good, though.
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u/Curiousier11 Feb 06 '25
I've seen both. I loved The Queen's Gambit. It was just great in every way, for me at least. It seems that Scott Frank is a versatile writer and creator.
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u/Inevitable_Flan_2912 Feb 13 '25
He's also (more recently) done a detective mystery called Monsieur Spade, starring Clive Owen in an updated-to-modern spin on the Sam Spade mysteries set in a small town in present-day France. I've not seen it, but I've heard good things about it. It's not on Netflix, though — might be FX. Easy enough to track down, though. Yes, versatile totally seems to sum this guy up.
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u/EveningProcedure3240 Jan 11 '25
I literally just typed in this show name and dumb woman and found this Reddit. And like the comments below I just told my gf I’m about to quit watching this just for how many times she gets this guy in crap. It’s so dumb. Like why are they writing all these stupid scenarios of her almost getting him killed. Most annoying character
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u/alldouche_nobag Jan 13 '25
Yeah im about to give up on these series. I’m kinda rooting for her to die a horrible dearh
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u/Absoletion Jan 11 '25
I like to imagine that they all died within 30 minutes of the end of the final scene because thus far every decision she made resulted in somebody dying. Like... just a random bear on the side of the road mauling them because she ignored the roars and Beware of Bear signs.
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u/AVJBeauty Jan 11 '25
I am so glad I found this comment. I feel the same way. I'm like you big dummy! This is the third time they got in some mess because she won't listen!
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u/DistinctAardvark4032 Jan 11 '25
Had to stop watching halfway through second episode. This show is unbelievable, sorry.
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u/Individual-Wait5676 Jan 13 '25
Yes we had to quit after episode 2 simply because of her character. Too bad, because we enjoyed the other aspects of the show. She reminded me of the annoying woman in Outlander.
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u/GolfCoyote Jan 10 '25
I’m watching this now, on Ep 3, and my wife and I keep yelling at the TV anytime Sara does anything. She constantly does the opposite of what she’s told or what someone in her position would probably do. Drives me crazy
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u/thelocu5t Jan 11 '25
I just found this thread+post from Google after reaching the end and trying to figure out if anyone else was driven crazy by her inability to listen. I wish I could say she gets better.
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u/enola504 Jan 10 '25
It’s fairly good.. I think even in 1857 they would have left that broad on the side of the trail though
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
Haha my gf said this. It’s like you’re portraying this super cold uncivilized world, but someone lets a stupid liability compromise them multiple times. No chance
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u/TheBatemanFlex Jan 11 '25
The dumb naive city woman in Wild West is a played out trope, but this Sara character really takes the cake.
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u/Doc_1200_GO Jan 11 '25
Anything that pisses off Mormons is good television. This is good television.
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u/dawghouse88 Jan 12 '25
Good stuff overall. I love a gritty story about the American west. This didn’t disappoint at all. It also reignited my interest in the Mormons during that time. I knew Young and some of his followers were bad, but you don’t see this story told in a lot of mainstream formats.
Happened to watch a few episodes with a friend who went to BYU and now I see why he often says “how did we name a school after this guy”
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u/CantaloupeCamper Jan 09 '25
What is good about it?
Serious question as ... you didn't say.
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u/MountainRock8517 Jan 10 '25
It's a badass Western, great action, decent story, good acting. I'll watch anything with Taylor Kitsch in. The man is talented. Derek Hinkey and the woman that played Abish, also really good.
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u/StrongAsMeat Jan 09 '25
I'm just on ep 2, and it's dark and gritty and full of graphic violence. Pace is nice and quick. It's almost black and white, the colors are very subdued and its nice compared to the sepia tone of a regular western.
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Jan 10 '25
The first battle is ridiculous. Arrows just teleporting in from nowhere.
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u/Ruraraid Jan 11 '25
A bow and arrow has the range to cover that entire encampment so its not ridiculous.
The ridiculous thing is that most of the attackers are shown to have guns with very few of them having bows. So really its more so the amount of arrows being fired that is questionable.
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u/whsoccerjc21 Jan 10 '25
Fuck I saw this post, decided to give it a go, first episode I was just waiting for shit to happen.. and then it did, and fuck was I hooked after that. Excellent buildup, excellent acting, excellent story, binged it all. Top tier show IMO
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u/QuietRiot7222310 Jan 10 '25
Yeah, the show kinda has me blown away. I literally just started the last episode at 5 AM.
I know it would be good when I saw that Shea Wigham was in it.
Disappointed that there’s only six episodes even though that’s probably plenty because me, this show is bleak, bleak bleak
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u/Smart_Following6173 Jan 10 '25
I think it is absolutely awesome and really well put together. As a historian I love how dirty, gritty and terrible everything is. And Taylor Kitsch is GREAT. I was so god damn tired of Sara but she finally did something other then being blind to her environment. So that at least got better.
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u/Legendingleberry Jan 18 '25
The acting, setting, wardrobe, and cinematography were phenomenal. I enjoyed how gritty, dirty, cold, and hostile it felt from start to end…but..
The storytelling was another matter entirely, unfortunately. The character development and story were predictable from start to finish because those archetypes are in every story.
If you’ve seen Hell on Wheels, parallels are easy to draw. Isaac was pretty much Cullen Bohannon with slight changes (tough, no nonsense, family murdered, trusts nobody), Sara was Lily Bell with slight changes (Always makes stupid decisions, never listens) etc. etc.
I was actually pretty astonished they ended with such a tropey sequence of events. I was actually laughing during a scene where I am sure the audience was intended to be in tears.
I’ll give it a 6.5/10 because it was entertaining enough to hook me, the acting, setting, and feel were top notch. Every department except the writers deserve praise.
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u/Rich-Sundae-7604 Jan 10 '25
As usual though, a man can get an arrow through the leg, shot in the gut and yet still be able mount a horse and ride for days. Then a wee operation with a rusty knife and he’s back on his horse again.
Not to mention being able to reload a cap and ball pistol (at night in snow) and have that pistol fire again.
Medicine and black powder sure were amazing on the frontier in them days!
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u/rigorcorvus Jan 12 '25
Yeah some stuff like that was definitely taken liberties with. Like the kid getting his leg fucking crushed by a horse and getting brutally knocked unconscious for hours multiple times
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u/sdanner76 Jan 11 '25
The Holloway mother annoyed the F out of me and im only 3 episodesin. She always asks for help but never listens to the man who is keeping her and her son alive. Let's start camp fires, let's keep going in the most dangerous direction, let's return orphan kids to crazy people. All against his life experiences and knowledge. Just turn her in for the bounty already.
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u/-balon- Jan 13 '25
Devin is even worse he is literally the worst character in a show ever. First time I have yelled at a TV character.
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u/Ashe_217 Jan 11 '25
I am on episode 3. Does Sarah get less annoying? Anything Isaac says she does the opposite of and gets them in trouble. It is very hard to continue watching with a character that is so stupid.
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u/youriqis20pointslow Jan 18 '25
Spoilers, but what are the odds that the Husband, in a mask, shoots the wife, who is unrecognizable because of Native American war makeup?. I mean come on what a stupid ending. I enjoyed the first half of the show but what a terrible pay off.
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u/Inevitable_Flan_2912 Feb 05 '25
Spoiler (in kind): Are you sure you watched to the end? I wonder. Seems to me like you may have switched off 2 or 3 minutes too soon.
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u/Annual-Magazine4359 Jan 09 '25
The lead female character is beyond annoying. Nobody can possibly be as naive as her. Additionally, she doesn’t listen to anybody despite being ignorant about the frontier.
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u/pepperandmiles Jan 10 '25
My takeaway is men are the worst creatures on this planet.
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u/Ruraraid Jan 11 '25
No that is humanity in general as we are our own biggest threat along with being the biggest threat to the planet we live on.
Its not a gender thing.
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u/Werewolfgirlie Jan 18 '25
When statistics overwhelmingly show that violence is a male problem, it is men.
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u/MouseRat_AD Jan 09 '25
I'll check it out. I've been watching some westerns this year after I finished my Red Dead Redemption 2 play thru.
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u/mutimloh Jan 09 '25
My favourite is 3:10 to Yuma. You have any good ones to recommend? Just starting this show now.
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u/yankeedjw Jan 10 '25
Unforgiven is one of the greatest movies of all time in my opinion. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is also an all-time great.
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u/anonyfool Jan 09 '25
I watched the first episode and liked it but had to use subtitles - is the sound mixing off or is it just my audio set up at home? I had to turn the audio up very loud to hear conversations.
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u/BoNapiltee Jan 10 '25
Yeah I had the same, effects were great, arrows whisking by and all that, but dialogue sounded really flat and distant, like I should have turned my center channel way up.
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u/ParfaitFast2365 Jan 10 '25
Do you have a 5.1 audio system? Netflix auto puts it at 5.1. it can help to change it to the regular setting if you don't have 5.1 surround system
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u/anonyfool Jan 10 '25
I just have a cheap soundbar + subwoofer but changing my amp setting to movie made the audio dialogue much better for me, thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I usually don't mess with it. Now I am wondering what I've missed out on...
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u/ParfaitFast2365 Jan 10 '25
When your watching a show on Netflix just press down button or pause it and hit the settings picture. It will show subtitles then audio. The first one English (original) is what you want. It's probably set to the next one down which is English (original. 5.1 so meant for 5 speakers and 1 sub. I myself have 2 speakers and a sub and it did improve the audio. No problem!
Edit: hit "other" not the settings picture next to it
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u/wukwukwukwuk Jan 13 '25
I had the same issue and turned on the subtitles. It got better in the episodes 2 and 3, which is as far as I’ve got.
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u/Bob5451292 Jan 14 '25
Same. Had to turn on subtitles because I could not understand the dialogue. Bad sound mixing?
Also, the picture was very dark to the point where I had to turn up the brightness on my screen.
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u/MirryKitty Jan 10 '25
I'd have to disagree. It was a very unsatisfying, uneven story for me. Very disappointed because it did have good visuals.
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Jan 10 '25
Very very good western tv series. Yes the plot is somewhat mid, but everything else is phenomenal. From acting to set pieces, great series.
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u/Shezzofreen Jan 11 '25
I really liked it till Episode 3 midway... then the pacing was off, really off. Starting at Episode 4 i needed breaks to not lose complete interest, it was as they didn't know what todo with several cast members, not moving anywhere ... how some things played out could be seen a mile away.
Maybe a Movie and not a Miniseries would have been better.
And the soundmixing made me mad, nearly every dialog is a whisper until maximum sound when bang-bang or indians going "WoopWoop"!
So for me... this could have been much better. Its not bad, but i would not see it again.
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u/Ruraraid Jan 11 '25 edited Jan 11 '25
It gets a 7/10 from me because while its gritty I simply can't stand the mother character who for the first half is written so poorly that its practically insulting the viewer.
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u/bigsmellyfarts3000 Jan 15 '25
Good show but that woman is so fucking annoying. I would have killed her day 1.
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u/oortcloud667 Jan 18 '25
3 episodes in. I can't handle the woman not listening to the guy that saved ger and her son. Stay here. No. Almost all die. Leave the child. No. Almost all die.....so annoying.
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u/Strict_Emu5187 Jan 19 '25
I'm watching this now and this chick Sarah is irritating me. All she's doing is screaming and not listening to poor Isaac when he obviously knows what he's doing. She's got them into more messes I just don't understand it anybody else aggravated by her?
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u/Z3R083 Jan 28 '25
Loved it. Minus the whole joining the “native” trope. Kinda distracting for me because it’s been done so many times.
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u/landdon Jan 09 '25
OMG. I've been really trying to capture anything similar to the flavor of Deadwood. This is amazing! I can't wait for season two to end and never be renewed. Very gritty!
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u/BulkyElk1528 Jan 10 '25
Glad to hear it because it’s in my list as it looked good, and I need more Betty Gilpin after GLOW was cancelled.
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u/P3rplex Jan 10 '25
My favorite band made the soundtrack. Excited to check it out.
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u/ParfaitFast2365 Jan 10 '25
Explosions In the Sky are amazing I first heard them back in 2004. Been a fan since. They make some good music on this series. Just finished it
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u/No_Hearing_101 Jan 10 '25
The only issue is the same .....6 episodes...why is it we get 6 episodes when it's good
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u/nickgardia Jan 10 '25
Excellent series - it’s as if the Revenant and Deadwood had a baby. One of the best gritty westerns I’ve seen. If you’re Mormon I guess it may be a little too sensationalist though.
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u/The1Honkey Jan 10 '25
We love it so far! Can anyone tell me what the Frenchman is saying in the beginning of the first episode?
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u/Posty_McPostface_1 Jan 10 '25
It was weird hearing that Peter Berg Friday Night Lights-esque guitar music pop up throughout a series as bleak as this.
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u/2nd2No1_ Jan 10 '25
Same thing happened to me. Saw it randomly on Netflix and said I’ll watch an episode. Ended up binging the entire show. Now I’m listening to documentaries about Jim Bridger
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u/ToWriteAMystery Jan 10 '25
I’ve been waiting for YEARS for something on the Mountain Meadows Massacre and am surprised it took so long to get made.
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u/Personal-Window5280 Jan 10 '25
I just hate that sara keeps putting them in harms way...keep moving! BTW, only on episode 4.
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u/gbtwo88 Jan 11 '25
I really had to google if arrows can really kill like that. Them joints where landings like 9mm bullets
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u/Chet_Indigo Jan 11 '25
"Dead or Alive" bounties were actually very rare as well. In reality there were not all that many bounty hunters out there. Bounties were usually collected by various lawmen. There were plenty of "private investigators" and "detective agencies" in the Old West, and some of them could go after the bounties but in reality it was not at all as lucrative a business as depicted in the Hollywood movies and modern TV shows.
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u/Chet_Indigo Jan 11 '25
As far as movies go, "True Grit" is probably somewhat accurate about the pricing rate and what a typical "bounty hunter" in the Old West would have actually been like - a dirt poor deputy U.S. Marshal who goes after the outlaws because he can't sustain himself by his salary alone.
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u/fifialou Jan 11 '25
This cast is top notch. Kim Coates (Brigham Young), Joe Tippett (Wolsey), and Shea Wigham (Bridger), Dane Dehaan (Pratt), Derek Hinkey (Red Feather), Sarah Lightfoot (Abish) are all so fucking brilliant in this series. Bravo
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u/Stoneheaded76 Jan 11 '25
Just finished ep 2 and what I gather so far is this utah war shit was a bloodlands back in the day. Slaughter everwhere
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u/DryArcher6481 Jan 11 '25
That show was amazing. I binged watched it in one day. One of my favorite all time
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u/Apprehensive_Work240 Jan 11 '25
I finished the whole thing and thought this show was fantastic. If u only watched one episode, u might not know what exactly is going on but the 2nd episode the story starts developing faster. Hopeful for a season 2!
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u/ObviouslyJoking Jan 11 '25
I’m enjoying it but it’s got one of my pet peeves. They often don’t translate the native languages. They do it randomly when they think it helps the story but kinda frustrating when they went to the trouble of writing things that I can’t understand.
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u/Educational_Plate503 Jan 11 '25
I could not understand the incentive of Issac helping that annoying woman.
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u/ComputerElectronic21 Jan 11 '25
Why were Peter Berg & Taylor Kitsch just sitting on this MASTERPIECE?!
Fucking floored! Incredible acting, incredible directing, incredible storyline, AND incredible cinematography….I mean just WOW!
SPECTACULAR…give me 14 of them!
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u/Equivalent_Ad_1361 Jan 11 '25
Great show.... But the main blonde lady is so goddamn stupid that it just pisses you off..
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Jan 11 '25
Crazy that this was from the guy who made Friday Night Lights but also made a bunch of propaganda films with marky mark like Patriots Day and Lone Survivor (which is a literal fake story)
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u/Prudent-Kale8910 Jan 11 '25
The pacing is excellent - every scene advances the plot and there are very few wasted minutes. Take notes Walt "let's do nothing this episode because we blew the budget last episode" Disney. Also, you don't need a huge budget to advance the story. You just need characters and scenarios people care about.
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u/KennKennyKenKen Jan 11 '25
Really enjoyed it overall but last ep was super super cheesy considering how grim the rest of it was.
Really enjoy how one storyline concluded, but disappointed in the main one.
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u/Retnirpa Jan 11 '25
Just finished it. It was meh.. At least there's no awkward s scenes so it's kind of a family movie lol
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u/patsmarine Jan 11 '25
Show is good only into the third episode and I dislike sara. She puts the group onto trouble by not listening to her guide that keeps having to save her from trouble that could have been avoided
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u/la_haunted Jan 12 '25
We're in the third episode and I've been so annoyed by Sarah this whole time. I was hoping Issac would just leave her but as she's one of the main characters, he won't. 🙄
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u/benjmac3t0 Jan 12 '25
Betty Gilpin’s character is absolutely horrible in this show. She’s a total moron who lacks any common sense. Idiot
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u/K_astle Jan 12 '25
They shake the camera so much I got a headache. Bad bad bad camera job trying to emulate pov
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u/Moth1992 Jan 12 '25
I am in episode 5 and so far I am finding it to be just ok. I dont think they have given me enough to care about any of the characters and their story lines.
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u/PsychologicalTour628 Jan 12 '25
I lived in Saint George Utah for 4 years as a single mother. My daughter went to Diamond Ranch Academy. The girl that died there last year, Taylor, was one of my daughter's friends. We thought it was a good school at our time of need. I was renting in Colorado and did not have a home so I bought one there in store george thinking was a nice area. We were harassed beyond believe to where my tires were being slashed by law enforcement, my home was being entered when I was there i was being called names that I haven't even heard. In eighth grade, that's how immature they are. And I was threatened because I would not date one of them. In fact, I wouldn't date any of them. I made friends and vegas for the four years that I lived in store george to avoid the area. I was followed in Vegas every time I went. And harassed there as well. They do have a lot of influence in Vegas. The reports that I made were not taken seriously. And they tried to have me arrested for something that I did not do. No lawyer there in that town was allowed to represent me. They all turned their backs on me. My daughter was harassed we were targeted. I threatened to sue the school before it shut down, so that i believe is where alot of this stemmed from. There were some that tried to help me there, there are some good people there. I think they were afraid to help too much. I was told by a very respected school official in private that I need to take my daughter leave. We were in fear for our lives. And this was just last year, those people that run that religion are evil. And for Taylor to be the fourth child to die at that school Diamond ranch Academy,,, well, one of my friends pointed out, she said. I think there were doing it on purpose. Google the history there's much more.
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u/Wolfdee95 Jan 12 '25
So I've tried researching and coming up blank
You know the nasty french camp that takes them prisoner and traumatizes sara after getting the little girl to lure them back
Who are they and why was their camp so weird and why were they french? Were they french travellers who became so poor they set up camp and chose crime and violence? And why was the old lady missing her eyes and that one guy who had deformity 🤔
Was there any historical accuracy with them or was it just planted for plot filler
Also why was their camp just surrounded with dead animals, it didn't even look like they were eating them 😅
So many questions
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