r/netflix • u/AnotherDarnDay • 20h ago
Discussion Unknown Number High-school Catfish Spoiler
What the hell did I just watch? And what the hell was this person thinking?
I'm in shock that someone would do such a thing to their own child. And that she doesn't seem to have any focus on what she actually did.
The daughter didn't seem to grasp what her mother did when they told her but the father acted on it right away.
Was she totally jealous of her own daughter?
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u/Fearless_Feeling_873 17h ago
I'm mad that the documentary and police never called her what she really is, a pedophile. Her texts weren't just harassing, they were wildly disgustingly sexual. She fantasized about being with the young boy in those texts. She stalked him and his new girlfriend from another town. Owen himself said she acted inappropriately towards him. She needs to be in jail before she hurts another child.
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u/burnafterreading90 16h ago
I don’t understand how the entire sexual component of the texts etc was ignored? She was very clearly infatuated with Owen she’s very clearly attracted to minors and yet that’s just swept under the rug? Bizarre
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u/Fearless_Feeling_873 14h ago
Yes, she clearly viewed her daughter as a sexual rival which is why she put down her body in a sexual manor. She knew her daughter was too young to do those sexual acts and so that was her "superior edge". They emphasized that she was super involved in school activities and being a coach. They tried to paint this as evidence that she was a loving mom, but it's actually more evidence of her wanting exposure to minors/Owen to prey upon. She was even going to all of his games. What kind of adult with a busy life does that for a child they aren't related to?
The local police dropped the ball on this one. You always start with the people closest to the victim. They didn't even verify that she worked where she said she worked! They could have easily uncovered her lies with a phone call to the company. That phone call would have told them 1. she is a liar 2. she has tech knowledge and 3. she has a lot of free time. I wonder what she did at her job to get herself fired.
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u/SpecialistWishbone77 11h ago
All of this...and to me it seemed clear not from the start, but pretty fast, that it was an adult...of course she specifically wasn't an evident suspect, but to think that a minor could not only write this messages, but hide their identity that well for such a long time...that needed some skills...in any case she is a total psycho and should not have been interviewed for this.
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u/_chicksareforfags 14h ago
and getting a random girl's mom's cell phone number?!!! like didn't even address that too post-reveal. Like what the actual fuck. I hope to god there is court mandated therapy after jail release but that would be too much to hope for
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u/TigreImpossibile 7h ago
Imagine writing that to two teens they are so innocent they aren't having sex, even if they were it's still disgusting to intefere with them... but they're cute and innocent and infatuated with each other, and you're messing with them, writing creepy sexual shit... and then extra layer of creepiness, the girl is your daughter 😱 I just can't comprehend how sick in the head this woman is.
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u/Aggravating_Hippo_64 15h ago
Not sure it was the documentary's job to do that, that was on the police...they fucked up
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u/Fearless_Feeling_873 14h ago
The police have the majority of responsibility. But documentaries are supposed to be investigative journalism. They should have asked her, Are you a pedophile? Did you volunteer at the school to get closer to Owen? Why did you stalk Owens new girlfriend? Why did you attend Owen's games when he was no longer dating your daughter? Her answer would have been lies but the implication would at least be aired.
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u/unicorn_onmacabre 17h ago
The way Kendra kept touching and hugging Lauryn after she confessed - I was yelling at the TV, “Get off her!!!” You could tell Lauryn couldn’t process it. I’m still in shock over this one.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 17h ago
She wasn't giving her a chance to process. Like coaxing her to forgive and forget with each hug and pet. Just ew.
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u/kellyscomedy 14h ago
Agreed. So gross. At least her husband kicked her out. I was like someone needs to get this woman away from this poor girl.
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u/mafaldajunior 11h ago
I'm so mad at the police for not immediately separating them, since they knew at this point that the woman was a child abuser and a sex offender
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u/hashtagwoof 10h ago
When she was like “I can’t leave her” I actually yelled at the TV “you fucking told her to kill herself” like what the fuck?!
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u/FungiAmongiBungi 9h ago
And I was shocked the dad told the police “she has to leave we can’t be around her, I might do something I’m so angry or she might do something to our daughter etc..” and then the Police just leave. They don’t wait for her parents to get there. He just said we aren’t safe here with her alone and then they take off. WTH. Really bad police work
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u/Weekly-Role-1132 8h ago
I was proud of the dad for taking immediate action. He called her parents to come get her. He was very clear that she had to go. The police should have enforced it and backed him up.
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u/FungiAmongiBungi 8h ago
Yeah I was shocked they just blew all that up and walked out. They’re lucky there wasn’t a murder suicide or something. Also she confessed. They should have taken her to the station and got a proper confession done then and there
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u/hashtagwoof 9h ago
Oh my god this too! The police should have immediately implemented an order of separation. That dad was on his game 100%, this woman (mother or not) literally terrorized this child, the first step is separation.
The police work exposed in some of these documentaries is criminally negligible.
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u/Five_Pents7 17h ago
When the FBI said it was the mom I paused it to see how much time there was left in the documentary.....because I was almost positive that somehow someway the true catfish was using the mother's number remotely. It took me several minutes to fully digest that it was actually the mom. Total bizarro.
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u/GDRaptorFan 17h ago
I did the exact same thing! I was like oh there is almost 30 more minutes, there has to be another twist! The documentary storytelling was SOLID, what a shock.
Because Kendra was shown so many times in the first half in a seemingly normal caring capacity, I didn’t think any human who did what she did would actually come on the doc and talk like that?!?
Truly though someone spoofed her phone. But no, this lady is a certified controlling excuse making sexual abuser narcissist, just insane that it was Kendra.
My sons are just past high school age now and if some grown woman was sending those disgusting messages to my son I would be pushing for sexual predator to also face legal ramifications for that too! Can’t believe they didn’t, she isn’t even on the registry. It’s disgusting!
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u/mdb1836726272726 10h ago
Yes and I’m still left with questions! Why did Khloe’s dad say “Shawn and Lauryn will play the victim?” As though they knew something? Why did they blame officer Main so much? Why was Lauryn allowed to with her mom in prison then cut off when she got out?
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u/Great_Sugar_1495 9h ago
To be honest, that was kind of a vile statement to do, especially since Khloe's dad is an officer himself. Truth been told it did not seem at all that Shawn or Lauryn played victims. Sure one can say that it is odd that Shawn did not pick up that his wife lost her jobs and that she had several phones laying around etc, yet again, master manipulators are masters at their crafts for a reason...they don't just get that title from nothing. Just look at Lauryn, the poor girl still doesn't even grasp what her mom actually did to her...
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u/TigreImpossibile 7h ago
Kendra controlled all the money, he didn't even know she wasn't paying the rent and bills until the eviction notice was on the door. I can see how she could hide it from him if she pays all the bills and she's in IT so maybe "works from home" often and doesn't have to rush off anywhere some days or any day.
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u/TigreImpossibile 7h ago
I didn't understand that at all, because Lauryn IS the victim. She's the main victim, even over Owen.
Owen gets to not talk to her and move on with his life. This was her mother.
You don't really get to move on from that. Everyone said that girl is not a nice person and that was a very shitty comment, IMO.
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u/kellyscomedy 14h ago
Same. I was waiting for the turn. I figured they’d focus on the mom for a bit and then Weed revealed who it really was. I was floored when it was true.
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u/bootska01 15h ago
I had to rewind and listen to her confession a second time because I didn’t believe it
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u/Able-Coffee3405 19h ago
I just finished it! I’m still trying to gather my jaw off the floor
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u/AnotherDarnDay 19h ago
Right? How? Like how could anyone do that and how could anyone forgive her.
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u/Able-Coffee3405 19h ago
And the poor daughter manipulated into thinking she needed to be near her mom!!! They gave that psycho WAY too much screen time
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u/fitz666 19h ago
I too could not believe how vile Kendra is. She is clearly a lying and manipulative person who does not accept accountability for her actions. She has the audacity to act as if she was a victim herself.
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u/producedbyearth 19h ago
The lack of accountability was the cherry on top of the poop sundae. We heard her say every excuse under the sun and even the sorry was performative. I wish she would have told the truth behind why she did it. She enjoyed every second of the drama, the torment, and the comforting her daughter after.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 18h ago
Yes... like "they don't know my story" I don't need to know why your own ass was lit up when you were younger. I needed to know why you needed to shit on your daughter and why you don't take accountability for it while owning up to telling your daughter to off herself.
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u/Ghost_jobby 18h ago
I couldn't believe it when she attempted to minimise her actions by comparing her conduct to people driving drunk but not getting caught for it. THAT'S BAD TOO!!! All she accomplished with that weird argument is to make me wonder what else she got up to in her spare time. People generally don't break the law in this way. It's telling that she thinks it's something people routinely do and that it's just a minor little slip up.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 18h ago
Yup. Good on the husband for telling her to get her ass out without hesitation. She's so messed up. She's acting like a good momma but in the end, dude you called your daughter a (unt
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u/Ghost_jobby 17h ago
I also noticed she seemed to take that police interview in her stride and didn't really show any signs of distress until they said the other parents would have to be notified. Then she cared.
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u/Least-Hippo-3411 18h ago
Kendra comparing it to other people driving after having a few drinks, or something blew my mind. She down played what she said to her own daughter and tried justifying it....this was the most unhinged thing I have seen in awhile....I am still shocked. She was even sending manipulating texts to her daughter from prison! "Oh you made me sad by not saying I love you" is she serious?! You told her to k*ll herself multiple times!...truly insane and disturbing.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 18h ago
Omg that text made me spit out my water, I was gagging when I started yelling "you told your daughter to end herself"
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u/Particular-Hotel3182 16h ago
I am surprised people thought Netflix were sympathetic to her i thought it was pretty clear they were showing an unrepentant manipulative megalomaniac but why wasn't she charged as a sex offender? Maybe thats why they avoided it beyond that statement to avoid getting sued. But having it at the end made us all remember the probable reason WHY. Because she was lusting after a child.
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u/galactabat 20h ago
"jealous of her own daughter" might be putting it lightly. she was a few cards short of a full playing-deck if you ask me.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 20h ago
I feel the daughter let it go why too easily. Like it hasn't fully processed. If my mama told me to kill myself I'd never have spoken to her again
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u/Suffrage100 17h ago
Abused children usually still love their mothers and want to be with them. They're always looking for their love and approval. Of course, it's not safe for her to be with Kendra. Maybe when she's an adult, she can break free from her mother's manipulation.
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u/_chicksareforfags 14h ago
totally, to me it was extremely similar to people who leave cults. well more even, how people stay in cults in the first place. They isolate you, make you feel like they're the only ones who love and value you, make it seem like others are crazy for not believing you.... there are huge issues people who leave cults face after because its not just one relationship you're recovering from, it's how you see your entire world. I'd be a fool to say I could even imagine what that feels like. The fact that people think the daughter is in on it because she's not as "mad" as they think she should be is heartbreaking. What would you do truly if you found out tomorrow your mom did that to you? like your brain would just shut it out cause reality would be so hard to accept. And then compounded by the fact that this was a childdddd like her brain hasn't even developped fully yet and she has to face a trauma most would never even dream of
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u/rainyserenity 16h ago
I agree. I hope as she gets older she can process everything fully and see things more clearly
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u/LKS983 18h ago
Jealousy plus some variation of Munchausen (attention seeking) made the most sense to me - although it's impossible to know/understand what the hell was going on in this woman's mind.
Even after she was released from prison, she didn't seem to GENUINELY understand that she'd done anything much wrong 😲!
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u/galactabat 18h ago
She definitely downplayed the whole thing...so did her daughter a bit once it was revealed it was her mom.
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u/Silver_Start_4935 18h ago
Here's a solid article about the case from earlier this year.- https://web.archive.org/web/20250115142023/https://www.thecut.com/article/kendra-licari-daughter-cyberbully-mommy-meanest-true-story.html
One theory from the article is that part of the motive was to create a crisis within the family to distract from her financial disaster.
Clearly though Kendra had multiple bizarre self-serving reasons to do this that baffle the rest of us.
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u/Party_Blueberry_3568 17h ago edited 17h ago
When the police told Lauryn that it was all her mother’s doing, 3 things were surprising: first, the daughter showed no reaction at all and second, she hugged her as if trying to act like someone else was responsible and to protect her. and last, she has the nerve to show her face and say all those bs in this documentary
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u/Cultural-Chart3023 14h ago
Yea that reaction was weird af to me that poor girl is so many levels of screwed up I hope she has a very good therapist
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u/Englishmatters2me 15h ago
One of Lauryn's friends said earlier in thes doc she doesn't show a lot of emotions
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u/LKS983 15h ago
To look on the 'bright side'....
Kendra CONTINUING to deflect blame made it very clear that she is not only a very sick person, but also that she still doesn't believe she did anything much wrong 😲!
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u/Inevitable-Rich-8903 20h ago
I’m also sitting here thinking “ wtf did I just watch”. I think she was jealous
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u/AnotherDarnDay 20h ago
She was something... lordy I was shaking my head in disbelief through the entire thing
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u/Inevitable-Rich-8903 19h ago
I kept thinking it was a mistake and that she confessed under duress or something and it would be cleared up- but that didn’t happen….
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u/AnotherDarnDay 19h ago
Right. And when her husband told the cops she's got another phone and she hid that I was like... oh Kay then... definitely guilty
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u/Silver_Start_4935 18h ago
I feel awful for Lauryn and am also reminded of people I know IRL who cannot cut a harmful parent out of their life.
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u/BayPhoto 17h ago
It honestly made me feel like the grooming and overall harm the mother caused to Lauryn goes way deeper than just this incident. Dare I say almost a little Stockholm-like?
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u/Silver_Start_4935 16h ago
Yeah I doubt this was the only awful things she ever did to her daughter. Who knows what that poor child has been through.
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u/gaanmetde 15h ago
I think the mom is a pedophile. Truly. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
She is full of excuses. The messages were beyond deranged I can only imagine that she got off on it, feels disgusting to say.
This was sexual abuse.
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u/No-Introduction1309 13h ago
Truly horrific. On a totally different note, those 3 girls - Khloe and gang dont sit right with me, they seem like mean girls. "She claimed that we threw carrots at her?" + Khloe: "maybe they just thought i was being rude to them or i just didnt like them" - you probably were. And her parents seem like bullies too tbh - which explains why she turned out like that.
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u/Aromatic-Tackle-2122 8h ago
Yes…those girls are awful and khloe is their Regina George.
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u/anDAVie 5h ago
Right? I live on the other side of the planet and this just shows that all high school bullies are the same everywhere. These are exactly the same as the mean girls I grew up with.
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u/PhoenixMedusa 17h ago
I am STUNNED. Jaw on the floor, shook to my core, STUNNED. The messages that woman was sending her daughter, her own child, were HEINOUS and to be sending them everyday, several times an hour… It has to be a form of munchausen.
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u/Sirfartsalot2020 19h ago
Feel so awful for Lauryn .. she hasn't comprehended that this was her mother doing this, the fact that she is so nonchalant about not caring what others think. Her main focus is getting back a relationship with her mother... The fact that she was not upset and allowed her mother to hug her made me so mad! That's someone who has been so manipulated they truly can't get past the fact that her mother meant everything. What's more disturbing is Lauryn not caring about the fact her mother also went out of her way to blame others, text others and stalk and harras them ESPECIALLY OWEN!
One day I hope she wakes up with the help of professionals and realises the true story. Took me 10 years and I'm 36 my life was wasted for so long on believing my sister had my back I was desperate for a relationship however no more.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 18h ago
I was waiting for her to push her mom off of her and go run to the dad but instead she sat there accepting her fate. It's gonna hit her like a ton of bricks one day.
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u/Blockdoll 18h ago
I've had a similar situation where I was betrayed by my sister. Just sending you love and reassurance that we will not only survive, but thrive!
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u/GSPIowapointer30 15h ago
This whole story is WILD! But was anyone else completely annoyed with Khloe and her parents? When multiple people say your kid is a bully.... she's a bully and it looks like the parents are too!
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u/Far_Hamster971 11h ago
Agreed, they came off really poorly. Just nasty vibes from the get-go. I'm so glad Shawn and Lauryn have each other, I cannot fathom how they'll process the cruelty and betrayal from Kendra.
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u/alternativeedge7 4h ago
For her mom to say Lauryn wasn’t a victim and insinuating she knew all along it was her mom was revolting. She was all big and bad about it too, like her and her husband really thought she did something there. Weirdos.
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u/Raise_Hail 16h ago
Also, what the hell is up with the parents of Khloe? It was hinted at by Sean that her dad is a dirty cop and her mom doesn’t believe Lauryn and Sean are victims in this?
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u/haawls 13h ago
came looking for this comment! how THEY saw themselves as the real victims in all of this was really shocking to me! seems like they peaked in high school and are raising a child who will follow the same path as them. VERY weird vibes from that family, they all came across as very self centered and cruel
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u/Specialist-Delay4049 18h ago
I just watched and my exact reaction was 😮. I was like no way wtf was that. Every time she spoke i just kept thinking of the awful texts telling her to “ki** herself”. That lady is absolutely sick
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u/Anarchic_Country 19h ago
There are a few other threads from the last 24 hours that discuss this, if you want to read more comments!
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u/AnotherDarnDay 19h ago
Tomorrow's reading material. I didn't have the brain capacity to commit to those tonight.
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u/Fearless_Feeling_873 17h ago
I suspected one of the moms from the very beginning! But I thought it would be the boy's mom being possessive. It was just way too graphic to be coming from a 14-year-old girl. The FBI getting involved threw me off because you wouldn't think she'd be stupid enough to continue at that point. The girl's mother is absolutely a pedophile. I wonder what other strange behavior she has done in the past. I feel terrible for the young girl, but her father seems great. I think he's doing his best in a horrible situation. They will make it through together. I hope the young boy is able to heal too. Terrifying what she did to them.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 17h ago
I thought it would have been one of the other girls mom's. Def. Not Lauryns that's for sure
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u/Financial_Jelly_2818 14h ago
I don't know if she knew the fbi was involved because the police officer acted like he was informing her of that for the first time when he came with the search warrant
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u/_chicksareforfags 13h ago
totally, think of all the kids she coached over the years... someone needs to find out what else she was doing with her days pretending to be at work
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u/Square-Sun654 17h ago
I also am not happy with Khloe’s parents. Lauryn and Shawn are definitely Kendra’s victims- and their trashing of them is really petty.
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u/Raise_Hail 16h ago
Yes! Like Lauryn’s dad casually mentioned he believes Khloe’s dad is a dirty cop and her mom seems like she’s also a psychopath.
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u/AGeekyFangirlIsHere 16h ago
I was completely stunned when it turned out to be the mum. I thought I misheard and then the mum just kept talking as though she hadn’t done anything wrong and that what she did wasn’t so bad and I’m screaming at my iPad “YOU TOLD YOUR DAUGHTER TO K*ll HERSELF!” Like what I just watched was insane and I can not understand how Lauryn wants anything to do with her mother.
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u/That_Ad_2279 17h ago
How about the horrible language this excuse for a mom was texting kids? Creamy? Gross! And why did the producers not even ask “ok, so where and who started the first messages if it wasn’t you?” I would have been grilling her. In the kitchen when the daughter finds out it was her mom, she just sat there and held her hand. That whole thing when they found out was weird. Telling your daughter she has a flat ass, is ugly, and should kill herself, wow! The daughter quit sports and everything because of the messages. And then just sat home and it was the mom the whole time! I didn’t understand the whole thing with saying to get Owen and people a new phone. That wasn’t going to change anything. You can just get a new number but the creep would get the new number/phone info anyways. This blew my mind with how crazy it all was but made me angry.
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u/Mementomoriii_ 17h ago edited 17h ago
Clearly Kendra was not going to change her mind about "someone else starting it" the producers either knew that or had asked and it didn't end up in the documentary. Also the mom would have been the one to change her phone number and didn't because.... obviously she would know the new one so why even persue that as an option. ETA I also read that Kendra was not up for being interviewed so the producers- I'd assume- had to tread lightly to get the footage.
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u/123butterfly56 15h ago
Anyone catch Khloes parents at the end? The mom said something about how “Lauryn and Shawn are gonna get away with it and play the victim”…is she insinuating they were involved, that kinda pissed me off.
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u/Upset_Cold_9482 9h ago
The end result of that particular mental illness is the death of the victim. Lauryn should NEVER be left alone with her mother.
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u/Actual_Conflict_7624 17h ago
The way my blood is boiling finishing this documentary. As a mother, I am sick and just I don’t even know. There’s literally no words I can use at this time to express how I feel about this lunatic of a woman.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 17h ago
I'm not even a mom and it made me sick.
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u/Actual_Conflict_7624 17h ago
Sickening doesn’t even capture what we ALL must feel because what in the actual hell.
Talking about “ I know she wouldn’t have committed suicide “ like WHAAAT????
The DISGUSTING messages she was sending to her own daughter and Owen!!! I’m way too worked up right now.
And then the fact that she AGREED to be in this documentary just shows that she is very much still sick in the head and they need to keep the daughter far away from her and everyone else in that community.
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u/AnotherDarnDay 17h ago
Yeah attention seeking jezebel there. Daughter will wake up one day and realize everything but the damage has already been done.
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u/No-Safety9283 17h ago
Clearly Lauryn loves her mom but I hope that she gets therapy and goes no contact with her. That woman is a liar and manipulative as all hell and takes ZERO accountability for her actions. It’s infuriating how she’s trying to minimize all she did.
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u/Mementomoriii_ 17h ago
I read that Lauryn still hasn't talked to her mom and has changed her perspective about her. She is now 18 years old.
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u/burnafterreading90 16h ago
I’ve just watched this and wtf?! I can’t believe it’s real!
Also, how can Khloes mum and dad not think Lauryn and Shawn are victims?! They don’t seem like the nicest people.
I think Lauryn seems like she’s still in shock about what’s actually happened.
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u/tealibrarian23 16h ago
I’m still reeling from what I just watched. I cried at the reveal. Lauryn is not safe as long as that monster is in her life. I am glad she is studying criminology.
I don’t believe a word of Kendra’s explanation. None of that was done to protect Lauryn or as a way to hurt herself—please. That part about her saying she felt like she was wearing a mask was scary as hell.
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u/kellyscomedy 15h ago
I wish I could unsee this. It really does need to come with some kind of warning that the content is about child abuse. I went in blind and man, that was a mistake.
I was glad toward the end that while Kendra was talking about how what she did isn’t that big of a deal basically, they showed the text messages that she sent her daughter on the screen. I’m glad they at least did that. Because it did really juxtapose what we’re seeing on camera with the heinous crimes she committed.
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u/Certain_Main5030 14h ago
I echo so many of these other comments and am just sitting here in shock and disgust. I am nauseous reading the texts telling her own daughter to kill herself and that she was ugly and anorexic. Severe mental issues. I know some moms with issues, but this is truly insane!
One issue that I haven't read other comments about is how did her husband not know she didn't have a job for 6-12 months?!?! No paycheck? I know they were having financial issues, but no paycheck would be obvious. If I said I had a 1-2 jobs and didn't have anything to show for it, my husband would be asking questions around week 2.
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u/flowergirl386 11h ago
I'm right there with you!!! Why didn't they handcuff Kendra and haul her off to jail the minute she admitted she did it????
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u/ersida 17h ago
just finished this. literally in awe and disbelief. what a vile human
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u/brokestarvingartist 17h ago
Finishing it right now, Kendra is absolutely disgusting. I feel horrible for everyone affected by her
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u/No-Journalist7101 17h ago
just finished watching, gosh i feel sick. kendra is disgusting. i cannot believe she has no shame to even appear in this doc?? god what a pure soul lauryn has, i was so shocked at her reaction when she found out it was her own mother and didn;t even question her or have any real reaction, of course this would have been shock, i guess compared to the clip at the end she seemed to have changed her mindset a little about their relationship. i feel so sorry for her, she seems like such a sweet soul, and felt even worse when owen said that he doesn't talk to her anymore in a way that seemed like he was angry at her?? like surely he would empathise with her knowing the amount of betrayal that she went through. i feel like netflix shouldn't have involved kendra in this, and shouldn't have given her the time to pathetically make excuses for her behaviour, at every given point she downplayed and made an excuse.
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u/Square-Sun654 17h ago edited 17h ago
I think the cyber Munchausen theory is convincing. I don’t understand why Kendra was not charged with child abuse. And sexual abuse as well, given the graphic sexual nature of many of the messages. I agree with Jill that Kendra was obsessed with Owen. Her deflection and denial are really infuriating. It made me sick how she moved in on and embraced Lauryn when her crimes were being revealed. It’s really concerning to me that Lauryn still has a relationship with Kendra. I couldn’t help wondering how Kendra would have been charged if she were a man doing these things.
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u/girlfriend_pregnant 17h ago edited 16h ago
Is the show not gonna address the fact that she literally told her own daughter everyday to kill herself? Just kinda breezed past that.
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u/This_Neighborhood989 17h ago
She wanted to be part of the high school Click so bad..zero accountability, I wish she did 10 years..everything was i feel horrible, but..it was awful, but..I litterly spit my drink out when she compared her actions to someone getting caught for a dui..she is absolutely bat shit crazy
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u/Aware-Pool-9630 16h ago
Did anyone else catch how she kept using “we” in the texts?? What was that about?
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u/tealibrarian23 15h ago
She said “we” in part of the interview too when she was talking about her thought process.
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u/SentFromMyIphonee 15h ago
I just want to know about the stuff that didn’t make it in the doc. lol. There has to be more traumatic family stories on Kendra. This woman is a certified FREAK.
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u/NoAcanthisitta3657 7h ago
I have a narcissist mother. She's a liar and manipulator. Very early on in the documentary I suspected one of the mothers. I thought perhaps Owen's mother. The fact that it was Lauren's mother blew me away. The fact that they downplayed the SA towards minors is horrific.
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u/bubbasnub 7h ago
I know we're rightfully dunking on Kendra, but props to her ex-husband who got the news and was immediately like "You gotta go. Not sure who you'll call, but you're not staying here any more."
Love the immediately and mature response from him. Lauren I think was shell-shocked and at her high school age still isn't comprehending just how disturbing her mother and those actions are.
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u/Beaut1fulBumbleB33 18h ago
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u/AnotherDarnDay 18h ago
Most shocking docuseries on Netflix. Totally didn't see that coming. I don't even think I would have let her taken part in that if I was running if. Agree she's scum
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u/PollutionFar5423 17h ago
Including the interview with her not only added to the suspense and the potency of the Big Reveal, but if anything only made her seem crazier and less sympathetic than she might have otherwise. So perhaps they included it, not out of some misplaced sense of compassion or journalistic desire to seem neutral (though I think that could certainly be defended), but instead, ironically, to paint her as a bigger villain yet!
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u/Particular-Hotel3182 15h ago
I agree. Hearing her deluded pathetic excuses didn't exactly give her a sympathy card it made her WORSE. Vile.
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u/Dapper_Dune 17h ago
That woman was evil. Even her segment at the end. Nothing sincere about her apology. Truly a sociopath!
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u/Sea-Athlete4235 17h ago
Kendra is vile! To do that to her own daughter is beyond comprehension! I think I believe the theory that Kendra had a crush on Owen. But she will never admit it, so she comes up with all sorts of BS reasons she did it. She most likely has a personality disorder. I hope her daughter never becomes her victim again. That would be tragic.
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u/This_Neighborhood989 16h ago
How many times did u yell...just change ur number !!!..lol..2 years, and not one of them changes there number..like wtf !!!
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u/Tall_Ad_4768 16h ago
I have never wanted to throw a couch at my tv while simultaneously vomiting and screaming at the top of my lungs until I watched this shit.
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u/No_Image_1122 15h ago
I have watched tons of documentaries and i would have never predicted it was her own mother. I was shocked. From what i saw, I feel like she was attracted to her daughter's ex boyfriend. I just can't think of anything else and what she said doesn't make sense
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u/KittyKillstreak 15h ago
So many emotions and it’s been 2 hrs since I’ve finished watching this absolute shit show. Thinking back to how the documentary was portrayed, we hear the mother speaking to us about the sequence of events and timeline. It was a look into how she lies to herself and everyone around her. The false concern, hunting down the culprit, the same heightened response as other parents, all while knowing and spending up to 8 hours a day spewing the most disturbing, disgusting, most vile hate and abuse to the most important person in her life…. For that long let alone EVER! UGH I can’t even process it all! No accountability when she gets made. The worst was her why I’d done it moment. Absolutely INSANE & made no sense whatsoever! No connection based on the actions that continued well after the fact and I mean, the vulgarity…. Like wtf! I’m appalled and I can’t even put my words together. There’s so much to cover but bottom line is the harm inflicted towards the children/ families and most importantly what she chose to do and say to her own daughter broke me and is and will always be wrong! I’m so heated and saddened by this human that I continue to write run on sentences. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some policy out on her daughter and she was secretly hoping to cash in due to all the financial troubles. Ugh, someone else take it from here…. Reading everyone else’s thoughts are helping me process. I want to see this young girl thrive and grow despite the pain she will continue to endure the rest of her life. She will make the best decision for herself despite everyone’s opinions but I pray she has the right support and guidance until that day comes.
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u/Fluffy-Struggle-4107 15h ago
I'm going to be honest. I understand her love for her mom despite what she's done. Probably has to do with my own unhealthy relationship with my mom. I can recognize what Kendra did was horrendous. And yet I can understand why Lauryn still loves her. It's fucked up. Someone who understands this weird twisted shit comment below.
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u/No-Introduction1309 15h ago
She reminds me of Beth the baby killer in Orange is the new Black, both look and act the same. Both mental but will look you in the eye and lie to you and play it off by acting loving and has no idea they did something wrong
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u/Emergency-Test7823 15h ago
I really doubt Lauryn and her dad knew anything about what was going on. 1. Kendra was very hesitant when the cops mentioned that they were going to break the news to both of them, she didn’t want them to know. 2. If I were to be in Lauryn’s shoes, I would behave the same way because at the time the cops broke the news to her, Kendra was all over her rubbing her hands and petting her and at that point, I don’t know what else she could have done apart from being confused. 3. Her dad’s reactions in the body cam were exactly what you would expect from someone who is innocent. Infact, it was the dad that even revealed the other phones Kendra had and he must be very stupid to do that if he was aware. 4.lastly as a teenager and that young, what would anyone expect different in this scenario? Adults, yes will react differently but what of someone age 13 which should be close to Lauryn’s age at the time.
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u/Neat_Cockroach_9933 14h ago
Watched this last night and was completely gobsmacked that a mother can do that to her own daughter, saying sexual things and telling her to kill herself too!
Also.when she got arrested why was the girl so qyiet about the fact it was her mom! Not screaming shouting just let her cuddle her thats creepy and uncomfortable to watch.
I thought she should have got more time for that! Its sick and she was a coach in basketball in the school too. Wow beyond words..decent watch tho. But unbelievable 😳
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u/Due_Presentation8003 14h ago
Omfg. Right after the reveal when Kendra's doing the interview and she's crying and she says now you guys are going to think I'm crazy. Crazy is generous. I am floored as a parent I could not ever imagine doing something so diabolical to your own child. It appears like munchausen's by proxy with emotional abuse instead of making somebody ill.
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u/Training-Database760 14h ago
I read an article a while back about this but when I started the docu I was questioning myself on whether it’s the same case due to how nonchalantly they introduced Kendra…..I feel bad for Lauryn, she has not really processed everything her mother did to her and I don’t think the wishy-washy vibe of this documentary will help at all. I hope she escapes one day and heals from all this mess.
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u/xjayxmarie 13h ago
Did this documentary really try to make us feel sympathy for this disgusting human being because she was raped? Excuse me ? Do they realize how unimaginably offensive that is?
As soon as I saw the first alligator tear as she was discussing her excuses, I audibly said “don’t you fucking say you were raped” 🫥
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u/EdWoodwardAKAMoney 13h ago
One of the most insane things I’ve ever watched, I knew it was an adult but was thinking it was going to be some unhinged teacher.
What was telling about and shows Kendra should never ever be around her daughter or children again was she didn’t ever accept any responsibility and the mere fact she participated in the documentary and said everyone’s broken the law etc.
In jail one of her emails says she’s mad at Lauren as she didn’t say I love you or she forgave her, she also said it was 50/50 in relation to the finances issue with her husband (it was evidently all her) and insists she didn’t start it this was her trying to find out who it was….and then she just couldn’t stop… wtf
This woman should have been sentenced to years, she was obviously obsessed with Owen who was what 13 when it started? It this was a man they would have been sentenced with more serious charges in relation to this.
I hope Lauren never ever lets this lunatic back in her life again.
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u/Just-Pomegranate-869 13h ago
What did I just watch? That woman is a vile creature who took little to no accountability, is just upset she was caught and absolutely hates her daughter… I agree that she’s definitely jealous of her daughter and had a sick crush on the little boy.
And then to say that she knows her daughter very well and that she’d never harm herself. Like, what? So that makes it okay for you to constantly tell her to go kill herself?
I mean, how could you even conjure up the thought behind all of those disgusting text messages she sent those kids? She definitely got pleasure.
A disgusting smirk and comparing child sexual harassment to people “doing illegal things and never getting caught” ?????
So many things wrong with this, I can’t. Smh
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u/louLouWT 12h ago
I remember reading this case a while back. So when i watched the documentary i was ready to actually know WHY her mom did cyberbully her own daughter and ex. Lemme just say im very disappointed by the documentary. Cause its just a mix of "wah wah, i was going thru a rough path" meanwhile she is telling her own daughter who apperently she loves so much, to kill herself? its sick, its disgusting and that mom should not be allowed to contact children. Just looking at the texts she def. is some sort of PDF cause who the f. writes to a 14 year old to 1. kill herself 2. to bj her bf 3. and she is too skinny. Like what is up with that mom. Please for the love of everything. I hope she doesnt get the happy ending she wants with her daughter and final thoughts:
who didnt the cops sepperate Kendra and her daughter. looking at the body cam, legit do not let her sit and hug her victim. she knows that she has done and she knows she is manipulating the situraton again...
Kendra 110% had some weird crush on Owen i feel bad for Owen because the way she stalked him and found his new gfs moms phone number was actually crazy, its not talked enough about its only "she treated me special she cut my steak for me"
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u/Misspunkag1984 12h ago
This was just baffling. In the end Kendra got what she wanted. Manipulated her daughter into solely depending on her, isolated her. I think she wanted to be the daughter with how she was going after the boy and the other girls. Its like she thought she was one of the kids, playing mean girls but to an extreme. As the father, and children services i would not allow kendra around Lauryn. Or any child for that matter. Basically treat her like P🗂 The trauma these kids went through. I feel so bad for them, and the parents. Hope they all get help.
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u/danicius 12h ago
I watched it and I feel completely exhausted. When the cyber unit came back that it’s Kendra I was like “no way she was hacked or something”
But to see her admit on video…heartbreaking. I am a full blown adult and I would feel the same way Lauryn felt. In shock yet you would feel it’s a lie or misunderstanding, mom was trying to be a spy or something. But to see her MAKE the sexual texts and suicide texts makes me very confused.
I feel like most people have tough daughter-mother relationships sometimes even have things said in fighting, I know my experience it’s hard to make up after a fight.
BUT this is clearly a woman who is extremely disturbed. THATS YOUR BABY!!!
It’s also like she wanted to get caught as well in the end. With her “techie, IT” background she HAD to know the FBI is going to get the companies of phone carriers to give the information. Neglect all over of the place in the investigation on police. Whole family should’ve turned in all tech.
I feel for Lauryn, and i understand her a bit, coming from how of course nobody mom is perfect. But if my mom did that level of mental toll beyond what I had experienced. No contact for the rest of my life. But she is still a child so I get her.
What I truly do not understand is Kendra says she started texting after the “original text” so is there really another person doing this and they got away with it??? Makes so sense I’m so upset over this case.
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u/F7nkySquirrel 12h ago
I actually felt physically sick while watching this. Still in shock with the whole thing and how casually Kendra treated it. And how Lauren still loves her. What in the actual fuck
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u/Hey-Just-Saying 10h ago
The only thing I can figure is that Kendra refused to cooperate unless they agreed to not paint her as the total POS she really was and they caved in order to get her in the documentary and assumed people would figure it out themselves, which it seems like people are doing
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u/Brilliant-Estate-367 8h ago
Honestly...WTF , So much to process after watching that! The fact Kendra had the audacity to say people don't know her side.... I was waiting for a twist or a bomb to drop and she's plays the victim and says she couldn't stop !????? THATS YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY??? Infuriating... she could have killed her daughter and she should be put on the child sex registry for the messages she sent about Owen 😳
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u/Fun_Chemistry4183 17h ago
This was utterly disturbing! She doesn’t regret anything! She is sick
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u/Sea_Ad1199 17h ago
This reminds me of when that show awkward had the mom send her a letter basically telling her daughter she wouldn't be missed. But in a real darker turn of events I'm shocked her daughter was willing to forgive her own mom.
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u/Bunny_Murray 17h ago
I am thinking it might be easier to endure a physical beating than what that mother did to that girl. Im utterly horrified!!!
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u/Downtown-Pop-9987 17h ago
My jaw is on the floor. I cannot wrap my head around how you could send such vulgar messages to children, to your OWN daughter. She’s taken no accountability for her actions one year of time was not enough.
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u/rowansurrey 17h ago
the mom made me so angry and all i want to do is donate money to lauryn for her to get therapy. her mom psychologically tormented her and she will need help unpacking what happened to her throughout her life.
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u/Independent-Toe9656 16h ago
Did anyone catch what Chloe’s parent’s said in their final interview? They said something along the lines of how Sean & Lauryn would pretend to be victims. And Owen said he’s mad at Lauryn. I’m so confused by this. Did I miss something?? It seems like they are somehow blaming her for what her mom did. Is the thought that she knew what her mom was doing?
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u/Narrow_Jelly_4396 16h ago
Just watched. Kendra is so mentally ill it makes me so sad. What she did is sick.
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u/Meg-smash 16h ago
I knew something was up as soon as they were talking about the score count. I was like someone is setting someone else up. That is too easy to figure out. Then when they said she kept the scores, alarms went off. And I just kept thinking how long would this have gone on and how much worse it could have gotten if she didn't get caught Totally sick
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u/crap4you 15h ago
Why would Owen be mad at Lauryn? It was Owen that dumped her. Did he think that maybe she was also a part of it?
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u/Englishmatters2me 15h ago
I'm mentally and emotionally drained watching this. She is either a sociopath or narcissist. I'm surprised Owen said he is mad at Lauryn. Does he realize that makes no sense. I pray Lauryn stays far away from her mom, but I know she wont. What a ride
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u/Cultural-Chart3023 14h ago
I thought the same thing the next half of what you said explains it! If my kid had experienced that by a friend's parent and the friend still wanted a relationship with the parent then fk off my kid is going to be near you again
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u/Cultural-Chart3023 14h ago
A man would definitely have got a harder sentence this whole thing is beyond shocking
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u/bootska01 14h ago
They didn’t explain the whole Florida thing unless I missed it?
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u/RogueKitteh 18h ago
So livid after watching this. Holy hell. Let me rant some thoughts/questions I have after watching.
How did the cops not immediately separate Kendra from her daughter/victim when they came to the house?? Instead they let her creepily hold/pet her? Wtf?
Why was the sexual component treated like an afterthought?? Why weren't there specific charges relating to that and why when they did briefly touch on that with Owen's mother did they try to sugarcoat it with older pictures of him instead of younger pictures of him when it actually started to drive home how creepy and fucked up it was?
Why did they give a platform to Kendra after sexually harassing children? Why did they try to humanize her and make us sympathetic with her to some degree? Would they do that with a grown man who sent equally sexually explicit messages to children?
Why didn't they focus more on how Kendra went after the new girl that Owen was talking to and her mother and what that means? I.e. that she did in fact have a fixation on him that went beyond her daughter
Why are they ALLOWING ANY contact between Lauryn and her mother after everything??
That woman belongs under the jail. For life.
Lauryn needs a world of therapy. It's almost like she needs deprogramming even