r/netflix • u/WebConsistent3251 • 2d ago
SPOILERS? Unknown Number the Highschool Catfish- I'm sorry did I just watch Netflix give a platform to a predator completely glossing over the fact that she was sexually aggressive with minors? Spoiler
She's a pedophile and a predator. I'm disgusted. She took no accountability and Netflix tried giving her some sympathetic image? Gross. Her daughter needs tons of therapy
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u/GmanFNC 2d ago
Not only did they give them a platform, the interviewer - at one point - gave them an out by asking if they were projecting their own insecurities. The story was insane but the documentary left me angry.
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
100% she texted her daughter to kill herself and they let her say "I knew she wouldn't"
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u/Eccentric-Elf 2d ago
She 110% would’ve played the victim card if her daughter did kill herself. She’s a sick woman and needs therapy and time away from her family. She kept rubbing me the wrong way during the whole documentary. Even the first time she appeared.
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u/nancyneurotic 2d ago
I'm pretty sure the first time she appeared, she was telling her daughter to just forget about it, ignore it, and move on. That shocked me.
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u/aviation_knut 1d ago
That’s how Münchausen Syndrome By Proxy works. I think it was the principal who mentioned it, calling it Cyber-Munchausen. I’m sure she enjoyed the attention her daughter gave her when she was distraught and confiding in her. She more than likely would’ve enjoyed the attention of being a grieving mother. Sick narcissist.
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u/GingerSpencer 1d ago
After watching her interview and how her entire persona and response the whole situation was “woe is me”, I wholeheartedly believe that she secretly hoped her daughter did kill herself for the attention and emotional support.
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u/Jhhut- 2d ago
I feel like they kind of glossed over the part that she kept pushing for her daughter to off herself and saying if she didn’t, she (THE MOTHER) would.. bc I literally rewinded the show to make sure I had it all correct. Absolutely insane.
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u/soupspin 2d ago
Idk, it felt more to me that they trusted the audience to see that she was clearly unhinged, because that’s quite literally what everyone who bullies someone into killing themselves says. I didn’t think they were overly sympathetic to her, especially with the montage at the end when they were talking about rekindling their relationship with the texts coming up
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u/hervararsaga 1d ago
I agree with you 100% She was not given a "sympathetic edit" at all. They were showing us how a typical psycho operates. This could have been a series, there was so much material there that was glossed over, like the police incompetence and the possibility that Kendra is a pedophile.
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u/SquishyBeatle 1d ago
Possibility? She kept going to his baseball games after he broke up with her daughter.
She is some kind of sick stew of pedophilia and Muchausen by Proxy. It’s a miracle she didn’t wind up killing someone, that woman is fucking insane
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u/s0ftsoftest 2d ago
I agree with you. The way they edited her at the end when she was making excuses made that clear too (showing the horrible texts while she was talking / trying to make excuses for herself).
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u/supersonic-bionic 2d ago
I was really surprised they tried so hard not to imply that she was a predator stalking a young boy. Like even the director never mentioned it in her interview...
Above all, it was so crazy to see her encourage her own daughter to kill herself...
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u/P0liticsSchm0litics 2d ago
So angry!!! This is child abuse. And the fact the poor daughter still defends her mom his heartbreaking. Justice was not served.
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u/AlarmingCost9746 1d ago
I was grateful that Owen's mom stood up at the hearing and Owen has the self-respect to avoid Lauryn and Kendra forever. It's so Sad how Kendra ruined her daughter and Owen's happiness.
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u/untamed2020 2d ago
I'm not one to tear down other women and their appearance, but this needs to be said. Kendra is a very unattractive woman, her daughter is beautiful. I absolutely think Kendra was/is jealous of her own daughter. This is sadly a common thing with women and their daughters.
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u/Jasmisne 1d ago
The insecurities question did not bother me, I think it made sense. She was projecting on her daughter, those are probably things she felt about her body. I do think there is value to question where some of this came from. I wish they pressed her more.
I wish they asked her specifically about the sexual nature, I mean straight up they should have asked her why were you saying you were having sex with Owen?
I am glad they let her talk in the beginning because I noticed she also was teary eyed talking about how the stress of it broke them up and I thought the way she cried talking about that and no other parts made her emotional
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u/evaintheus 2d ago
Wow. I just finished this and I am outraged! Absolute crazy story. I fully expected it to be a teacher or the clichè janitor but HER OWN FUCKING MOTHER?! My god I am so mad at this sick nasty woman. Gross!
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
And the way she was portrayed is just as sick. Disgusting
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u/isometric_haze 2d ago
The fact that she shows zero accountability, on tv for everyone to see, and even on the stand, talking about her ptsd instead of asking for forgiveness was... 100% predator behavior. It all seems to be an old joke for her.
And her daughter is still under her spell. This girl is in trouble. I hope she has a good therapist.
Disgusting... and kinda fascinating.
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u/thisyellowdaffodil 1d ago
The bit where she said everyone has done something criminal, they just haven't gotten caught like she did? Revolting. My jaw dropped. There is an ocean of difference between stealing a candy bar and this disgusting horror she inflicted on her own daughter (and everyone else she victimized).
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u/barryvon 1d ago
… she was not portrayed well. every time she talked they showed the texts on the screen to remind us how horrible they were compared to how she tried to brush it off.
nobody came away sympathetic to her.
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u/s0ftsoftest 2d ago
Honestly I’ve never been shocked by a documentary. I literally did not register that it could be her own mother until she started confessing in that police interview, when the FBI guy linked the numbers together I thought it was just another “going through a suspect” segment and would go nowhere. I just could not fathom that it would be her own mother sending those disturbing text messsges.
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u/evaintheus 1d ago
If you are looking for another absolute disbelief shocking documentary watch "Abducted in plain sight". Holy shit.
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u/Aurorachild01 2d ago
I was shocked that they let the mother get away with the, "everyone has a committed a crime", statement. What she did was crazy and not on the level of drinking and driving. When she hugged her daughter and was refusing to leave her house..... I do not know how her ex was able to keep it together. I would have lost it. You can see that Lauryn did not know how to react. She was not returning the affection until her mother started to cry. I feel so sorry for her. I am happy that she has a father that is likely keeping her away from her mother. They said that she has not seen Lauryn for over a year. I hope in the end that she understands what she took away from her. I am still so appalled!
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u/Jameycolorado007 2d ago
I just finished this and I’m searching for anyone to talk to because…holy shit
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u/ItIsWhatItIs3026 2d ago
This is one of the most disturbing documentaries I have ever seen.
As a parent to a junior high student and a high school student, this is really upsetting.
Here to talk! I kind of wish I didn’t watch this.
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u/Adorable-Trade-9973 2d ago
Same. It was so fucked up, who says that kind of stuff to their own child???? Who tells their own child to kill themselves and send the horrible and disgusting messages for like 2 years and then says "we all make mistakes" Ummm no, fuck Kendra, she is a psycho, I was furious watching this
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u/Terrible_Dance_9760 1d ago
Same here. I haven’t watched a doc in a long time that made my jaw hit the floor - they shouldn’t even be calling this woman a mother - and why wasn’t she charged as being a sexual predator??? Imagine if this was a man sending these messages ????? And now she’s free. Like what the actual hell.
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u/Thistlecos 2d ago
Omg or that first email they showed Kendra sent her daughter trying to guilt her for not saying I love you at the court house?? This poor girl.
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u/pop-101 2d ago
That was the part that made me actually feel sick to my stomach and come here to read everyone else's comments about it. Idk how there wasn't a monitor or court officer or.... or the dad, or SOMEONE to read that and see that it was manipulation and enforce a no-contact.
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u/Aurorachild01 1d ago
I think the dad is doing what he can. Kendra admits she hasn't seen Lauryn for over a year towards the end. She is bidding her time I think. Hopefully by the time Lauryn becomes an adult she will have firm boundaries. You can tell that she still cannot bring herself to show how she feels. When you are in her position processing and expressing emotions become hard to impossible. You are supposed to love your mother. You are supposed to be able to trust your mom. When someone that you love purposely destroys your relationships, self esteem, reputation, and security. You never fully recover. Most people learn to make excuses for and protect their abusers as a result 😪
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u/Aurorachild01 1d ago
It's a way to maintain a relationship. If she keeps saying that she loves her mother her mind will find it harder to let go. It is abuse 101. The reassurance isn't for them but to keep you. It confuses how you feel. She did the same thing when Lauryn found out and she immediately started showing her affection. In the beginning Lauryn was not returning the gesture. She starts to cry and Lauryn feels responsible for the bad feelings. When the father asked her to leave and she says, I can't leave her. It puts Lauryn in a position to feel that her mother needs her. Like her mother is incapable of living without her. It removes the responsible from Kendra to Lauryn. She is past crazy. She is calculating. She is conniving. She also has no remorse.
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u/jammiesonmyhammies 2d ago
I had to pause at that moment and explain it all to my husband who had walked into the room! Neither of us could believe how much she was downplaying what she did to her own daughter.
This last 30 mins is going to be wild 😅
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u/Sketcha_2000 1d ago
IKR?! It was like, yeah Kendra, I’ve run a few red lights in my day but I can honestly say I’ve never psychologically tortured my teenage daughter and her boyfriend for no apparent reason.
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u/Key-Wheel123 1d ago
I think letting her talk so much really showed how deranged she actually is. Having her at the start talking about how concerned she was knowing it was her all along was quite the show.
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u/SamEnsalada 1d ago
That was so freaking outrageous. I almost threw my phone against the wall. Kendra Licari is a monster.
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u/ArugulaImpossible204 2d ago edited 2d ago
I don’t feel she was sympathetic at all. She’s smiling half the time she’s talking about what she did. They let her talk but she’s clearly sick in the head and still manipulative. She is so incredibly unlikable, to say the least.
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u/BingoEnthusiast 1d ago
Yeah I felt like they kept all of her absurd statements in for a reason. To seem crazy. They gave her the rope to hang herself
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u/NiaQueen 2d ago
I’m so angry at this. They let her discuss how she went to the school looking for answers. Awful.
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
Right I get trying to keep it a mystery Ina sense but that was gross. Her hugging her daughter with the police there broke my heart
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u/Historical-Phrase106 2d ago
The mother is just gross… to me it is not mental illness, she is evil, clearly she hates her daughter.
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
I think she's jealous of her daughter. She's disgusting. She literally admitted that she honed in on her daughter's known insecurities.
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u/MYSTICALLMERMAID 2d ago
She comes off very insecure and jealous of her
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u/spicypretzelcrumbs 2d ago
Yes.. she attacked her looks, called her a waste of space, and degraded tf out of her. I can’t sit here and pretend that her mom wasn’t speaking some of her true feelings to her daughter.
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u/supersonic-bionic 2d ago
It is definitely mental.illness but we shouldn't use it to justify her actions of course.
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u/krammiit 2d ago
"Mom" is actually doing herself a disservice by letting the world know she's a huge PDFfile.
Thanks for the warning lady.
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u/AndyJCohen 2d ago
Watching right now and even now she’s not being entirely truthful. She’s saying someone else sent the first messages, but the police clearly state every text message was connected to her. And even if they were sent by someone else, that doesn’t excuse the other messages that came later. Those were the worst ones! Ugh, shame on Netflix and the producers for not pushing back on those blatant lies. And even worse, it seems clear she was obsessed with her daughter’s boyfriend and they haven’t posed that question either!
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u/ArugulaImpossible204 2d ago
His mom and him kind of touch on her obsession. But it should be the theme of the documentary, not just talked about a little.
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u/AndyJCohen 2d ago
I meant they should have posed that question to her. Like a producer should have asked her directly about what the other mom said. Kendra got off way too easy.
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u/CertainAlbatross7739 1d ago
We can debate the ethics of it, but the ugly reality is - in order to get Kendra on camera - they probably buttered her up quite a bit. Straight up calling her a predator would scare her off.
My main problem with the interview was when they gave her an excuse as to why she was bullying Lauryn. They should have given her enough proverbial rope to hang herself. Not offer her a box to stand on.
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
Documentarians are not supposed to push back. They are supposed to not be committed to either side and just document. That's why it's called a documentary. It's like a form of journalism, but more in depth. Even a journalist for a news hit piece seeks comment from the offending party.
But I do think they could have asked for more explanation for the sexual messages and the fact that she continued to stalk and target Owen after she broke them up. And I'm wondering if they did ask those questions, but she was so uncooperative with those questions that they had to edit it out. Or if Owen's family didn't give permission to use that part of it.
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u/Commercial-Oil-8946 1d ago
Right! She kept texting her daughter's now ex-boyfriend even after they broke up and the former boyfriend's new girlfriend. That had nothing to do with her daughter. She is a sick dog with pedophilic and obsessive tendencies, like a Mary Kate Latourneau. The documentary mentioned via the ex-boyfriend's mom that she kept going to the boy's games by herself even after the breakup. She was aggressively sexual in the texts as well. She never explained why the veracity, detail, and explicit nature of them and went unchecked about claiming someone else started them and she continued. That was a lie like everything else. And she consistently told her own daughter to kill herself. I'm disturbed and upset I watched it!
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u/kimchimandu 2d ago
Maybe I am in the minority but I don’t think the doc painted her in a sympathetic light. The cuts of all the texts she sent to her daughter while her daughter was talking about how she wanted to build back a relationship with her psycho mom was a pretty clear message…
If anything I feel like the doc gave the mom just enough rope to hang herself…. Is there really anyone saying that what she did was fine because of her “trauma”?
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u/barryvon 1d ago
media literacy is at an all time low. the interviewer doesn’t have to say anything to show you how horrible she was. her words speak for themselves.
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u/darforce 2d ago
Well Netflix goes everywhere and there isn’t a place in this world this woman can go and not be shamed and shunned
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u/viv_savage11 2d ago
I had to turn it off once I realize who was responsible. Knowing that she was part of this documentary and had been mugging for the cameras earlier I couldn’t stomach the idea of watching her try to justify what she did.
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u/Historical-Phrase106 2d ago
Right… I had to watch it a second time and watched closely to what her mother said… “oh, they went trick or treating together” … blah, blah. Blah… gross mother.
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
Oh it got way worse. She sob storied, blamed an alleged sexual assault from when she was 17 and failed to mention her own sexual abuse of her daughter and Owen, she lied and tried to say she didn't send the first messages and only started sending the later ones in hopes of getting a hint from the kids that would tell her who sent the original messages, etc. She sent her daughter emails while she was in jail and used her daughter as her penpal to help her get through her time in there, just filled her with jail talk (I dunno if you know what that is, so I'll explain for those who don't know: jail talk is when someone is locked up and suddenly they have found God and realized their ways and talk about how much they'll change when they get out, how it'll be different, they are changed and yada yada. Sometimes people will also string along a familial or romantic relationship so they can have access to more money on their commissary and someone "on the outs" to talk to so they can escape the reality of prison life, or to secure a home plan so they can get paroled early). In reality they get out and nothing has changed and they go straight back to their old ways
She made herself the victim, made excuses, had a pity party, compared her crime to someone who gets a DUI, and didn't even once sincerely apologize for anything. Oh and she said that even as she was telling her daughter to self-harm, she never once was worried that her daughter would actually do that.
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u/ferngi 2d ago
This happened in my neighborhood! While my husband and I were watching, we were shocked to see that Kendra was SO involved in the documentary. Not entirely sure why anybody thought that was a good idea.
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u/Jhhut- 2d ago
I know I saw a spoiler it was someones mom and every time I saw someone’s mom come on my screen I was like “well, it certainly can’t be this person because they’re just as involved as the rest of the parents trying to find out who this it and they’re willingly in the documentary” not to mention, I certainly didn’t have the main girls mom on my list…..
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u/soupspin 2d ago
Yeah that’s usually how I gauge the documentaries too, and I feel like the producers knew that, considering they didn’t have Khloe in at first when they were trying to stir up the possibility she was doing it
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u/supersonic-bionic 2d ago
It was a good idea because....it made good TV in the sense that at first we did not expect her to be behind this. If she hadn't been involved, I think it would have been obvious
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u/JBunnyx24 2d ago
I was confused at the end when they were interviewing the one girls parents. They said the husband & daughter were totally in on it & when it came out they would say they had no idea. Do most people in your area think that too? I was hoping they would have discussed that further.
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u/ferngi 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m sure some of the kids/parents do, but just general public opinion around here, I don’t think most people believe that. I would have a hard casting much blame on her daughter even if I believed she was involved somehow, as she was so so young when this all would have started.
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u/pssthush 2d ago
Do you have any idea why they WOULD have thought that? Im sure in small towns people talk, and these types of docs have a reputation of leaving out some information to sort of paint a narrative sometimes. Could there have been something we arent aware of? Because what I got coming out of it was that the mom is a sociopath narcissist and the daughter is a victim of it. The dad seemed like he had so much going on that there wasnt much time for him to even piece it together.
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u/ferngi 2d ago
Honestly I haven’t heard anything like that, but I’m not really super involved with much of the local gossip either so perhaps there is a lot I’m unaware of. Most of what I’ve heard is just that, Kendra is a narcissist and her daughter is a victim. I think any rumors that her daughter had something to do with it (if they are baseless) probably started because this largely took place in a school, teenagers talk and so do their parents. especially the parents of the other children that were hurt.
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
I agree I thought that was weird. I understand they are upset at what happened to their daughter, briefly, but that's on Kendra. Imagine what Lauryn's gone through I thought that was very selfish
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u/jammiesonmyhammies 2d ago
The way her husband cheered her on and she was so pleased with herself. Blame Kendra rightfully, but I felt that was another low blow at Lauryn.
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u/Lonely-Caregiver2107 2d ago
Yeah that part was so disgusting. They really thought they did something there. No, you guys are just bullies like the daughter you raised.
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u/imjustalurker123 2d ago
Khloe was Kendra's victim too, so I understand the anger. BUT as a police officer, this guy should have much more integrity, or at the very least, self-control. Victim blaming is disgusting and Lauryn is a victim - a child victim, at that. If he'd say this sort of thing on a Netflix documentary, imagine what he says when he's not on camera. Absolutely gross. Kendra is the villain, obviously, but these two bullies are right behind her.
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
How shocking this must have been for your whole community. Wtf
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u/ferngi 2d ago
very, i just hope that her daughter has support and that this doc doesn’t make things harder for her in any way. :/
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u/iangeredcharlesvane2 2d ago
I hope so too, that poor girl, both Traumatized by what happened and now the whole world knowing. Maybe it will help her see the truth and get real lasting help.
In the arrest scene, Kendra’s table looked like it was filled with TONS of liquor bottles … was she know as a big drinker in town? I got the feeling all those late night messages she sent that were really gross she was drunk, like an alcoholic too.
Just a quick thought I had.
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u/ferngi 2d ago edited 2d ago
Honestly, everyone is a big drinker here and alcoholism is very very normalized. I do believe that was a factor, but probably not a factor that anyone around here thinks much of. It’s hard to get across just how small this town is, but it’s literally one street. We have a school, two bars, and a gas station, this is a low income area where most people haven’t traveled more than 20 miles from home, access to mental health resources or recreational spaces that don’t involve alcohol are slim to none. The shots that you saw in the documentary WAS the entire town. If you aren’t working, you’re probably drinking. It’s really unfortunate and doesn’t really foster a lot of healthy home environments.
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u/Zestyclose-Ad5448 2d ago
I'm absolutely mind boggled that Kendra wasn't charged with child sex crimes. This woman spent two years sending sexually explicit texts to MINORS. Imagine if that had been a grown man saying such vile stuff to 14 year-olds. They let her off way too easy.
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u/lolabeanz59 2d ago edited 2d ago
The mom is so disgusting and I don’t understand how Lauryn can continue to have a relationship with her mother. She is trauma bonding. I hope she can heal as she grows up.
To add, at the end where khloe’s parents were talking really shows how Mike Main let this go on for far too long. He waited too long to get the FBI involved and was too caught up on Khloe or someone else in school doing this. The FBI was able to connect the dots very quickly.
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u/FoodieSnark 2d ago
When he had that brilliant idea of trying to use the school video footage to “catch” someone texting at the exact same time a message came through.. that seemed incredibly stupid and a waste of time too. Literally everyone is on their phones all the time, ya dingbat.
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u/Icantcalmdwn 2d ago edited 2d ago
How gross. That father didn't even know his own wife was a disgusting Narcissistic Sociopath the entire time.
The way she tries to hold on to Lauryn saying "No I can't leave her" as she's being told to leave for lying to her husband? Straight manipulative behavior. Meanwhile, Lauryn is the one who just heard that her mother basically destroyed her life!
I AM FUMING!
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u/WebConsistent3251 2d ago
It was heartbreaking watch Lauryn reach for her mom to hug her because of course, as a young girl that's who you go to when your devastated, and at the same time it was all caused by her mom. It made me so sad for her and so completely disgusted with Kendra she's disgusting
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u/LuckTerrible9961 2d ago
I promise he knew his wife was a narcissistic sociopath. Just not how bad she really was
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u/Kolzerz 14h ago
The cops should have NEVER talked to Lauryn in front of her mom. That was so inappropriate and didnt given Lauryn the opportunity to understand the severity of the situation or ask questions. Shitty police work all around.
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u/sexyresd 2d ago
This documentary was indeed crazy and shocking. To start off, I 100% think the mother should have been in jail for way longer than what she was in for. Wtf was that?! Those texts were literally indescribable, they were so terrible! And when she said that she felt like she was a different person sending those text…what in the actual fuck! Like there is no way you are getting yourself out of this situation. Also when she said that she wasn’t the one who sent the first text…lies. There is no way you wanted to “find out” who was sending those text, just for you to send them back?! The poor daughter—you can see when the truth came out; she’s in shock. I don’t think she expected her mom to be the one who was sending those texts, it’s almost like she felt relief that they finally discovered who it was. I do also think that she needs a lot of therapy to fully understand how wrong this situation was and how wrong her mom was. She still wants a relationship with her? Like I don’t want to say it’s crazy, but I just think she isn’t fully understanding how wrong it is. I’m glad the mom can’t see her anymore. As for the dad, he was definitely clueless and I am glad he kicked that woman out.
Anyways—does anyone else feel weird about Khloe parents? To be honest, some part of me thought it could have been her, considering that people did describe her as mean to people and then the whole Adriana situation as well. Lowkey if it was Khloe, the parents definitely look like the type to defend their daughter’s actions and deny she did it. That weird comment the mom said too. I definitely think that in another world; if it was Khloe, the parents would have been denying and be quick to cover it up.
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
Yes Khloe was absolutely a mean girl in the way people in the documentary had described her. And it's obvious her parents think she's perfect and they are always keen to use the dad's position in the community as a cop to let Khloe get away with anything she wanted. I think they just got lucky in this scenario that it wasn't Khloe and if it was, they would have still defended her and refused to believe it
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u/WineingCats 2d ago
Omg! That was the most disturbing shit I have watched in a while. I cannot believe they didn’t give her a harsher sentence. The woman is clearly psychotic and knew what she was doing. I’m sorry, trauma or no trauma you as a grown ass woman don’t say that kinda shit to your own kid or any kid for that matter. She is just a nasty, evil human being.
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u/Over-While1897 2d ago
At the house where she was arrested I’m just so curious as to WHY the kitchen table was absolutely full of bottles?
Also that woman needs to go away for a long time. That sentence was pitiful. How was she allowed contact with her daughter whike in prison? They both needed so much help. Those poor kids :(
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u/Stomo1987 2d ago
Haha I just finished this and I kept trying to see what it all was, I was thinking maybe it was for an event or something but I was like wtf!?! So many questions.
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u/Conscious-Check-5015 2d ago
I didn't get far before backing out of it. Holy cow, I appreciate the spoiler so I don't have to watch any more of the sick crap that was being sent to kids.
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u/Equal_Side_27 2d ago
This documentary has genuinely left me pissed. I’m pissed they let her get away with this. I’m pissed at the mom’s excuses. I’m annoyed by all of it. Putting CHILDREN through this amount of trauma, LIFELONG trauma but she got off easily. I’m so upset. None of the victims deserve even a little bit of this. Kendra is so disgusting. I can’t believe a mother can do that to their child. Insanity.
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u/Kcirnek_ 2d ago
I think the local police officer did a terrible job explaining to Lauryn what happened. You can tell the daughter was so confused and let that psychopath hug her and kiss her.
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u/Kcirnek_ 2d ago
Regardless if Khloe was innocent, I found her parents to be disgusting individuals (the cop and the wife)
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u/MrsTrustIssues 1d ago
Thank you! They took absolutely no responsibility for their child being a bully. They couldn’t fathom their daughter being a mean girl..even after admitting they were constantly being called in, for years, for issue with their daughter…
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u/OkayButDidIAsk 2d ago
Hm I’m conflicted if I should watch it then. On one hand I’d like to know the story of what happened and know who the victim was and if they were okay, on the other I don’t want to hear it from the mouth of a pedophile who’s being protected too. That would feel icky.
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u/cherrybounce 2d ago
She isn’t being “protected” but they don’t push back.
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u/JennaTulwartz 2d ago
This is how I felt, they just let her make a few too many insane or demonstrably false statements with no meaningful pushback. Didn’t feel good.
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u/cherrybounce 2d ago
The interviewer didn’t really engage in any back-and-forth with anyone. In a way I don’t think it matters because everyone who saw the documentary came away feeling the same about Kendra. It was frustrating to watch though.
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u/JennaTulwartz 2d ago
Yeah, I think the hands-off style wasn’t necessarily consequential to the outcome of the documentary or how it was perceived but to me it contributed to the feeling that she keeps ducking consequences at every turn. Just irritating.
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u/GraineDeTournesol 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think it was done pretty well. In my opinion, the documentary made her FEEL that they were empathetic to her case (so that she would agree to be on the doc) knowing full well that she would show her true colors on her own, with her lame ass excuses and weird deflecting. Most of her interventions just showed how manipulative she is, and that is interesting to witness.
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u/Even_Matter1288 2d ago
I agree - I think they toed the line between giving her space to voice her perspective, but also included enough for us to see right though it. I do sincerely hope she's not profiting from this in any way (but am doubtful). However, as a high school teacher, I also feel a bit icky about having them include the daughter on the documentary interviews - I don't think she's had enough time or space to process the betrayal yet, and will regret being portrayed in this way in 10+ years. I hope this doc allows for Lauryn and her dad to get as much therapy as needed, and perhaps a fresh start in a new town if that's what they choose.
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u/Purplepinkel 2d ago
Exactly. She's too young and too traumatized to be included in this. And the footage of the FBI calling the Mom out w Lauryn in the frame was grossly inappropriate. Lauryn seemed robotic the entire time, I felt concerned about her long before we knew who it was
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u/lazarusprojection 1d ago
The doc was not at all sympathetic to Kendra. The edit makes very clear what she did.
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u/neener691 2d ago
When she hugged her daughter at the end when the police were there, I actually screamed at the TV get your hands off her!!
She should not have been allowed access to contact her daughter while she was in prison, those emails were completely unhinged,
I really pray her daughter can cut her off, with therapy she might be able to, The fact that she didn't have friendships in school leads me to believe her mother hung out at school and kept her from making close friends to keep her dependent on her.
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u/China--Doll 2d ago
Very upsetting documentary. As a victim of a mum similar to this I wish authorities got more involved, that girl needed to be protected. They say she can make her own choice but she has been abused since birth, she’s been groomed to forgive and worry about her mum over herself.
She should have been removed from the premises immediately with no interaction between the two allowed. Mental abuse is so downplayed and ignored, it completely ruins your worldview and reactions and it’s so, so complicated to unravel when it’s all you’ve known from birth.
I hope the next 10 years bring her many revelations and lots of healing and real support.
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u/iatethecheesestick 2d ago
I'm not sure I agree that the documentary gave her a sympathetic image? It just presented what happened. The fact that exactly zero people come out of watching the documentary feeling sympathetic towards Kendra should indicate to you that maybe that is not what the goal of the documentary was. I do wish they had outright said she was a pedophile - although Owen's mother basically did say just that.
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u/stop-house 2d ago
Agree, the producers gave her the rope, she quite successfully hung herself. Well done.
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u/alyboba19 2d ago
Lauryn is so terribly wrapped in her mom’s evil web. I hope as Lauryn matures she can distance herself from her. How is it not clicking to her that her mom RUINED her life, stole a year from her, humiliated the family forever, and your own mother was LUSTING after your boyfriend?? What’s not clicking?!?
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u/CoochieCookiez 1d ago
this was the saddest part. she’s a child and her safety mechanism is to not accept that her mom hates her. imagine having to grieve the loss of that relationship that means so much to you your whole literal life. she will need serious therapy as an adult
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u/Boring_Banana5264 2d ago
I have never been so mad. I have been cussing at the tv. The “mom” is disgusting. The way she ruined so many lives and equates it to someone drunk driving. She has no remorse.
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u/Crazy_Banshee_333 2d ago
The mother is a complete psychopath. No one with any empathy would do this to their own daughter. No normal person would have such thoughts about their child, much less text them and then watch them suffer every day as a result of the relentless harassment.
Her sentence should have been much longer, and I think she should have been barred from ever contacting her daughter again. The fact that her daughter can even stand the sight of her is bizarre. If my mother had done something like that to me, I would move to the other side of the world and never want to see her again.
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u/EvaGreentree 2d ago
The way the mother was touching and hugging Lauren during the confession was extremely uncomfortable to watch. I cannot believe they did not protect the daughter during that moment. I appreciated how the dad reacted during that. What a sad and infuriating situation.
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
Yea but if I was a dad I'd be like get tf away from my daughter and stop fake comforting her right now. She was only worried about comforting herself and further manipulating her daughter in that moment. I was yelling at the screen!
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u/PinkRetroReindeer 1d ago
The fact that she was not brought up on 1000 other charges AND that Lauryn communicates with her is horrifying.
Why is there even permission to speak to her? This woman is a destructive abuser.
The betrayal of the parent child relationship had me in shock and sickened. There is no excuse.
And the things she wrote ? Are you kidding me? She IS a predator.
It's not less harmful because it was texts. It's horrific.
There is no realm that this woman should ever be released and allowed to speak to any of the victims. It's a matter of time until she harms a child physically. Shes already established shes a master at psychological warfare.
This country has to wake up to what mental torture is.
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u/Ok_Awareness_5100 2d ago
The daughters loyalty to her was disturbing to me, she still wants her mom in her life and it’s like girl please go no contact she’s unsafe.
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u/Adora2015 2d ago
The daughter in trauma bonded. It must be so confusing to love someone who you believe loves you but is also cruel.
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u/Sevenitta 2d ago
This lady is a controlling compulsive liar and was jealous of her daughter, she was not getting the attention anymore. Her beautiful and talented daughter was and as much as she tried to be that team mom type mom it wasn’t enough. I haven’t finished it yet but I had to get on here and say I don’t believe a word she is saying. What she did is beyond unfathomable, her poor daughter must wonder what she did for her mom to be so cruel and disgusting to her. I don’t agree with the Munchausen Syndrome explanation. I think it was about controlling her daughter and in a sick way seeing her not be so perfect. I mean she’s smiling through half the interviews after it was revealed, almost as if she’s wallowing in the attention even more after being caught. Absolutely disgusting, I really wanted to reach into the screen and slap that bugs bunny smile off her face.
Oh wow so now I see, it was about jealousy over Owen too. She is a disgrace and really didn’t take responsibility, crying in the interview, near the end, saying somehow those texts could “protect” her daughter. These are more bs excuses, not true admissions. So sad that Lauryn and Owen lost what could have been. Not to mention the other girls that were affected. Many, many adults have had trauma as a child but they don’t do this shit, so sorry she doesn’t get an ounce of sympathy from me. I’ll bet anything that when Lauryn gets older and completely matures she will not feel the same about her mother. It’s sad to see how Lauryn was like an abused child who just wanted to be with her mom again. I hope she gets therapy to work through these horrible circumstances.
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u/Alternative-Hope5227 2d ago
I was so shocked by how calm everyone seemed. And she is just being interviewed through out the entire thing for the big reveal towards the end. That was insane.
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u/configure38D 2d ago
How did her dad not run to her when he was told in that moment?? Baffling to me how he let the mother even TOUCH her daughter and hug her "crying" while being confeonted. They should have been separated immediately. She's clearly manipulating her. So sad
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u/quitofilms 2d ago
A cop right there in the room, he did the best thing. Stand back, hands in plain sight. It could have got physical and fatal very fast.
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u/SilverGrayFox 2d ago
I think it’s a safe bet that Kendra isn’t going to be receiving any nominations for the Nobel Prize for Parenting. Khloe’s parents either.
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u/EmptyOutMyMind 2d ago
When i first watched the trailer I jokingly said it's the mom. But holy fkn hell it's the MOM??! I am just finishing it up and she has her daughter embedded in those claws.
Such a disgusting and vile pos that took 0 accountability and showed absolutely no remorse. I want to throw a fkn chair at her face, this pmo. The sentence, what a joke.
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u/Which-Bottle-734 2d ago
I hated that she used mental health as an excuse when she was in court like don’t get me wrong I understand mental illness can be hard to go through, but that’s not an excuse to do horrible things, kendra doesn’t even seem sorry, she’s just mad she got caught, I wouldn’t put it pass her to wait till Owen was 18 and try to have an affair with him.
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u/MentalEnthusiasm6683 1d ago
I think leaving her to try offer an explanation actually was a good idea. It exposes how unhinged she was for doing all that, how deluded she was for trying to minimise and rationalise it all away. It’s a solid yet subtle interview tactic - give someone enough rope and they will metaphorically hang themselves
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
I agree. I already knew it was her bc I remember reading about it in the news. But then I got confused bc she was in the documentary and I'm pretty sure at the beginning she was even talking like she was innocent, like she was trying to find who it was too. So I was like "ok maybe my memory is wrong and it was another kid's parent sending the texts". I really didn't expect her to actually be in the documentary, I know I'd be too ashamed of myself and I'm a big accountability person so there is just no way bc what would I say other than I did it and I'm a POS?
But no, it was so obvious she was lying the whole time, she sent the original texts. And im mad that they didn't delve deeper with her about Owen and the fact that she continued to stalk him separately from her daughter after they split up, and the fact that she was clearly sexually abusive. But I'm wondering if they tried to question her about that stuff and she was uncooperative with that line of questioning so they had to edit it out bc of the amount of deflecting or refusal to answer.
When it got to the part where the cop busted her at home and they brought her daughter in and she grabs her daughter's hand and starts comforting her, I was yelling at the screen like "Get TF off of her, give her space, you sociopath!". I hated her and her stupid sob story and how she tried to make it about her. What a horrible, horrible person she is. I have a deceptive, narcissistic, betraying mom as well and I just felt so bad for that little girl bc I know her mom will hurt her and betray her again and again. It may not be until that girl gets older and has kids of her own and realizes she will have to protect them from her mother or protect her own right to be a mom to her kids, that she will disconnect from her mom finally.
I am happy they shared the opinions of Owen's family and pointed out that the B*tch was just obsessed with their minor son, bc that's obviously what it was about and she did not care how that hurt her own daughter. She never apologized for causing them to break up and the heartache she caused, for telling her daughter to off herself, for the sexual stuff. She even had the nerve to blame it on a past sexual assault, which I can honestly say I don't believe that ever happened either.
I hadn't been that mad at a documentary criminal since that Molly lady committed premeditated murder with her dad on her Irish husband because she was obsessed with those kids too. I think when criminals go on these documentaries and do anything other than apologize and take full accountability, they are just narcissistic pieces of crap that relish the opportunity in the limelight and cannot wait to make themselves look better than they are and lie through their teeth
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u/Silly-Commission-241 2d ago
I thought it was just me- massive error on the directors part. I think the director may have given her some grace so that she would appear…that’s not how you cover a story like this.
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u/viv_savage11 2d ago
Right? This is really exploitive and I felt gross watching it as soon as the reveal happened. I shut it off.
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u/PAngel111 2d ago
I’m confused on the daughters reaction when they said what kendra had done, was it shock or did she know? Did kendra send all the messages from the beginning?
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u/latdaw2012 2d ago
I went into this uncertain if it was the story of the Lifetime movie I watched a few years ago. As it was going, I kept saying, isn’t it one of the parents?
That said, I watched this and was left with more questions than answers. I remember the Lifetime movie was crazy, but I thought a lot of it was dramatized. Guess not.
The motive was never really established, and I don’t for a second think those messages originated from someone else. Makes no sense. She was a manipulative nut case who was lying about everything.
And why keep it going after the two broke up?
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u/ImJustHere4TheCatz 1d ago
She was obsessed with Owen. Everything she said was a lie and Owen's mom and her gut instinct was correct. She wanted Owen. She was willing to hurt her daughter for Owen. She was willing to frame an innocent (albeit obvious mean girl) teenager for Owen. Sick and twisted. She should be listed as a sexual predator.
The daughter probably won't realize until her mom betrays her a few more times, or until she has her own kids and her mom starts to become obsessed with her kids and pretending to be her kids' mommy and makes attempts to take her children from her through malicious means. When she realizes she'll need to protect her own kids from her mom. That will be when she finally realizes, and it will hurt her even more then bc of all the years she tried to make it work and all the times she'd already forgiven her before. I know from personal experience, but even my mom never did anything quite as unhinged and mean as text me harassing messages for over a year straight or stalk my bf.
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u/darforce 2d ago
Yes. People need to give these people a platform as training so we all know what to look out for. 1. Deflecting 2. Diminishing 3. Victim Blaming 4. Focusing on themselves
You watch enough of these things you can almost guess what they are going to say next.
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u/ShutUpForMe 2d ago
She lost her job and decided: “if I’m not happy, my kid, and this random other kid my kid happens to like deserve UNENDING harassment”
ALL of her statements when she talks about how “its all about did you get caught or not”… the way that resolves, if she didn’t get caught is if either kid gets fed up(which they did in messages, and end it all. And then if its her kid, there’s no further investigation because. Or even worse all the kids who had this completely useless drama in their lives take it up a notch and harm each other over this hidden identity person pretending it’s peer communication.
Biggest psycho I’ve seen in a while, so many parents of kids with phones are terrible people(see kidinfluencer documentary eps)
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u/427zimbabweavenue 2d ago
i’m sorry i know lauryn must be traumatised from what happened, but how do you just go and “forgive” your mum for what she did and want a relationship with her. i understand she loves her, but what the mum did was disgusting and no matter how much i loved my mum, if she did that to me i would not want to maintain a relationship
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u/bsblacklist 2d ago edited 1d ago
The way the show kept telling on her.
- She definitely sent ALL THE MSGS from day dot. Even her daughter thinks that. There was no other party involved at the beginning. > The first msg said - "hes gna break up with you" - it made me wonder if Lauren had confided in her mum, and maybe they were in on it together, like a revenge thing? Even of she was involbKendra as a parent should have pit a stop to it.
Is that why Owen does not F woth her. Like he knows she must be involved on some level.
- The show knew the more she talked, the less credible she was.
- She messaged Owen's new girlfriend. So, she didn't think that shitty fake defence through.
- Khloe's parents apparently knew it ALL. They'd pointed out early on, they suspected her!! (Edit: I skipped some bits so didn't realise she was the mean girl.)
- Did Khloe's parents point the finger at Lauren and the dad being involved?
- Ew. You're telling me they inserted pics of older Owen when talking about this pedos obsession with him when he actually looked more like a child at 14/15 when it all occurred?? WtF.
- The poor cousin. Was this main group (Lauren, Owen etc al) mean kids?
- Those msgs were rank and so abusive.
- Chilling how she hugs the daughter. NGL, the way this was edited made me think two things - either the daughter already knew or she's been so mentally abused by the narcissist.
- So disturbing how psycho mum messages her daughter in prison.
- She's so jealous of her daughter.
- Maybe Lauren will see all the commentary online as she grows up/ gets therapy and has NC.
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u/Simpy158 2d ago
Yeah she wouldn’t have agreed to be interviewed if they weren’t a bit gentle however by the end they completely lost all sympathy for her. You can tell by the way the showed her messages while she sat there making excuse after excuse. She’s SUCH a pathetic person. Also saying everyone breaks the law 🙄 not like this you loser! I stole a sticker as a kid once. I don’t even know how she managed to get a job and have family in the first place - she’s unhinged.
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u/Rebel_and_Stunner 1d ago
I wanted to punch her in the face so badly. And she has THE most punchable face.
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u/Pristine_Bus_9340 1d ago
When Lauryn says "I don't care what people think" I don't care what she thinks. There is NO WAY she should be allowed to see her obviously sick and destructive mother and I don't care what she thinks about that.
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u/EngineeringRight3629 1d ago
The woman is a complete psychopath. I don't think anyone who watches it can come to a different conclusion. So, idk if they gave her a platform so much as gave viewers a chance to see who she really was. I can't imagine this woman ever landing gainful employment or a normal relationship ever again. She's infamous now.
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u/CommunicationWest710 1d ago
I couldn’t watch the whole thing. I bailed when they interviewed her trying to justify her behavior. Told her own daughter to kill herself. And describing graphic sex acts to 13 year olds. Lying about work, the mess with the family finances… I just could not listen to her excuses.
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u/SamEnsalada 1d ago
She is a classic narcissist. She knows what to say and when to say it. Her stupid crocodile tears and lack of remorse is disgusting. Still stringing her daughter along. She is a pedophile. All the things she said she was going to do to a minor boy, like wow. Kendra Licari is a pedophile and a psychopath. Who gives a sh*t about. your supposed trauma.
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u/SamEnsalada 1d ago
Maybe Lauryn Licari will read these messages someday and I hope she does. When she is older and stronger, I hope she is able to push this monster of a mother out of her life. There is no place for anyone in her life, who would send those vulgar messages and to tell her own daughter to kill herself over and over. She absolutely victimized Owen with her disgusting and graphic pedophilic texts. Lauryn needs to go no contact with Kendra Licari.
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u/Thin-Brick3439 2d ago
I'm at the end now and like mam why are you getting your own interview?
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u/stop-house 2d ago
She gets her own interview, so she can dig her own grave. The director puts the shovel in her hand.
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u/Special_Library_766 2d ago
A man would have gotten 67+ years hard time for the same crimes and justifiably so.
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u/Lonely_Page_8558 2d ago
This was the craziest documentary in a while. The mother is seriously not right in the head.
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u/PAngel111 2d ago
I’m confused at the daughter’s reaction when kendra was outted, was she in shock? Did she have an idea or was her?
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u/TrifleNext9884 2d ago
I really had to pause the film towards the end and come on here to see if anyone post about it. I’m glad I’m not the only one blown away from this.
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u/ArtEnvironmental1798 2d ago
As soon as it showed the mom Kendra for the first time my stomach turned. This was before I even knew she was the texter! What a disgusting person. I can not imagine ever doing this to my child. Ever in a million effing years. We allll have trauma. Majority of us have PTSD. I’m sorry that is no excuse. I’ve been through hell in my life. I would never hurt my daughter. Makes me SICK
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u/raeraeroo27 2d ago
Yes. Totally had the same thoughts after watching. What a sick vile human being and a PEDO. She should definitely be on sex offender registry. Seems like Netflix is also omitting certain information like why did khloes parents suspect Kendra so soon based on her past? Also seemed like they think Lauryn and her dad knew what her mom was doing since they were upset Mike Main didn’t investigate them more. But they didn’t come across very well tbh and that could just be their own opinion.
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u/ratfairy27 2d ago
Did anyone ever figure out HOW Kendra got that photo that was sent from Owen's family's christmas???? Or am I just missing something
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u/throwaway-rayray 2d ago
Yes - that woman should be on a register and not allowed near kids. She continued to sexually harass that poor boy even after his relationship with her daughter ended. It wasn’t about the daughter, it was about him. She should not have been given a platform.
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u/s0ftsoftest 2d ago
Never has a documentary left me as shocked as this one. I never expected it to be her mom, I couldn’t even fathom it. When the whole search warrant thing happened I honestly thought they weren’t going to find anything cause she was innocent. I know I might be alone in this but I was SHOCKED. I just cannot fathom a mother doing that to their own child.
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u/Zaliciouz 1d ago
Evil horrible woman! The things she said to her own daughter were horrific. And she had the audacity to compare what she did to ‘drink driving’.
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u/methany819 1d ago edited 1d ago
Maybe they convinced her to “tell her side” for a better documentary for the producers and get more engagement… otherwise idk why she would even want to show her face
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u/Enough-Street-6230 1d ago
Her brushing it off saying it was just a mistake was insane. Thousands of texts is not a mistake.
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u/melysandre 2d ago
I'm very surprised that there were no criminal charges related to child abuse or sexual abuse. If there aren't existing laws to cover this behavior there absolutely should be