r/news • u/MIngmire • Jan 09 '18

Dad turns in teenage son after finding child pornography on cell phone

http://www.kmov.com/story/37226711/dad-turns-in-teenage-son-after-finding-inappropriate-pictures-on-phone
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u/hairy_balloon_knot Jan 09 '18

When I was a kid, jailbait was a 16 or 17yo girl that LOOKED 21. Full breasts, face of makeup, and older clothes. Hence the "bait" part . .you would legitimately think she was a college kid, not a highschooler.

These days it has a sicker meaning. The girls on alleged "jailbait" sites look about 12 or 13. They do NOT look fully grown or even as though they have finished puberty. . the excitement is in the pre-pubescence of it and that is absolutely disgusting to me.

On a lighter note, I suspect that the reason redditors are so obsessed with "OMG 17YO IS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY!" is not because they are 40yo men looking to rape a kid .. it's because so many of them are 14-17 years old and desperately seeking/sending nudes from their peers. Which is much less concerning to me than the above. A 14yo kid who thinks his 13yo neighbor is a hottie is just .. a non issue .It's not who the FBI looks for. . but I think redditors misunderstand this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '18

Don’t kid yourself, there’s plenty of 40 year old paedos on here too. Just say the word ephebophile and they appear as if summoned.

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u/faltzerflame Jan 10 '18

Fuck that’s the word I knew there was a different one. I can never remember it also to scared to google it

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

At a workplace trivia event one question was about the latin word or whatever for 'fear/hatred of teenagers' or something (I forget the wording). Silently, I guessed correctly that it's likely something like ephebophobe, because of reddit's obsession with "it's not pedophilia bro it's natural!!!!" teaching me the word "ephebophile," but I decided not to answer. Would rather not have to try to explain that one.

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u/Hencenomore Jan 10 '18

......you could have just said you know phobe means fear and ephebo from some random reddit thread on latin.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

"What's reddit?" ask my coworkers who don't use reddit

"She's talking about ephebophilia because reddit's obsessed with teenagers, I bet she's a pedo too," my reddit-savvy coworkers think

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u/3lfg1rl Jan 10 '18

Heh... I know someone who actually attempted to google "Latin word sex with teenagers" when they forgot the term. It did not go well.

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u/Sawses Jan 10 '18

So... A demonic ritual to summon a teenage succubus? I'm pretty sure I've seen that porno.

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u/RigMorTortoise Jan 10 '18

I thought it was an anime

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u/Dysfu Jan 10 '18

... you mean nothing happened?

There’s not really that much incriminating evidence on a single out of context google search to even warrant a visit from the FBI or whatever.

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u/3lfg1rl Jan 10 '18

Oh, I wasn't claiming police came knocking on the door. Just that the results of the search were not what his innocently inquiring mind had expected to find. (Ok, not so innocently inquiring. He expected to get a lot of wrong links, though he was hoping to get the word, too.)

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u/celestializingfanny Jan 10 '18

Ehebophile is actually Greek.

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u/HampsterUpMyAss Jan 10 '18

What happened??

Also that person's Google skills are shit.

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u/AlphakirA Jan 10 '18

You can't just stop that story there.

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u/Popotuni Jan 10 '18

He's given you all the details, off you go to Google!

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u/hairy_balloon_knot Jan 09 '18

HAHAHAHA

the "aaaaaaaaahhhhhhctually!" crowd will arrive to tell you "actually! technically! actually! technically!"

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

“She’s ahhhhhctually a thousand year old Vampire who was turned when she was eight, so technically...”

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u/kettchan Jan 10 '18

"... she's the worst character in the worst show."

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u/squonkstock Jan 10 '18

Is this from something? I googled but came up with nothing.

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u/TheLastOfYou Jan 10 '18

It's a character from the Monogatari series

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u/warsie Jan 10 '18

isn't it Flandre from Touhou?

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u/TheLastOfYou Jan 10 '18

I was thinking it was Shinobu from Monogatari, but I haven't watched the series in full so I'm not sure. I think that we are even having this conversation speaks volumes lol.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

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u/MibitGoHan Jan 10 '18

Don't gotta look as far as Japan. League of Legends has Zoe, essentially a type of immortal deity who's thousands of years old but just happens to look and act like a preteen.

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u/eseehcsahi Jan 10 '18

And Babette in Skyrim.

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u/TheLastOfYou Jan 10 '18

I really don't see that video as "defending" pedophilia. If anything, it is trying to add context and nuance to something that is often misinterpreted. I'm not denying that some anime have lewd scenes of underage girls, but the point is that this subgenre cannot be painted with a broad brush.

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u/Narlaw Jan 10 '18

Uhhh... It didn't defend anything as I remember...

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u/rareas Jan 10 '18

... So technically it's Necroanimatophilia

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18 edited Jan 10 '18

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u/conquer69 Jan 10 '18

That's not what pedophilia means but ok. I guess you can make up your own definitions in your head. Just don't expect other people to automatically know them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

So you're saying someone who fucks a sexualy mature 17 year old is just as bad as someone who fucks a prepubescant child?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

A 47 year old dating a 30 year old is also apparently.

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u/WhynotstartnoW Jan 10 '18

Did they stutter?

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u/squonkstock Jan 10 '18

Sexually mature does not equal emotionally mature.

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u/Potato_Peelers Jan 10 '18

You don't emotionally mature until like 25 though.

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u/Hurrrturrrn Jan 10 '18

Raping a 2 year old to death and sending nudes of yourself when you're 17 are entirely the same thing to some people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

Damn, lock up my ex then.

You're insane.

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u/Mocha_Bean Jan 10 '18

I'm just as disgusted by the self-proclaimed "ephebophiles" as you are, but you're taking this to ridiculous extremes. There's nothing that clicks into place in your head the second you hit eighteen years old. If you're seriously trying to argue that there's no difference between a 19 year old being with a 17 year old and a 40 year old being with a 12 year old, you're either completely delusional or you're trolling.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

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u/Mocha_Bean Jan 10 '18

Doesn't mean the line has to be a literal set year. Because that doesn't even begin to cover the nuances of power imbalance, exploitation, maturity, and personal agency that surrounds the issue. Obviously, the law has to be a lot simpler and more objective, but outside of the judicial sphere, there's no need for a mathematical formula for calculating morality.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

A 19 year old and a 17 year old?

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u/LordSwedish Jan 10 '18

So what about countries where the age of consent is 17? Are they not pedophiles? What about countries where it's over 18? 18 years old is not some divine age where suddenly everything changes, but prepubescent is a pretty clear line. Of course, slightly older than that isn't much better in my opinion but at least it's not a completely arbitrary line.

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u/rmslashusr Jan 10 '18

A 49 year old dating a 31 year old is a pedophile in your opinion? Totally the same category as a 30 year old taking sexual advantage of 12 year old in your opinion?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

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u/Legionof1 Jan 10 '18

You're a fucking retard.

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u/rmslashusr Jan 10 '18

The 31 year old male is being taken advantage of by dating a 49 year old woman? Because a 31 year old man can’t make his own decisions as to his sex life?

The only thing that’s fucking gross here is that you’re trying to normalize the concept of pedophilia so people think of it the same way as they would a loving relationship two consenting middle aged adults.

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u/rmslashusr Jan 10 '18

What power imbalance? You realize age isn’t your character level in an MMO right? A 49 year old woman doesn’t have some sort of magical power over a 31 year old male that prevents a middle aged man from consenting.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

I mean it is creepy if it started before, see Macron. Not that creepy if it starts at those ages tho

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u/vibrate Jan 10 '18 edited Jan 10 '18

What if the 31 year old male is also rich?

Also a 31 year old male is probably stronger than a 49 year old female.

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u/AlphakirA Jan 10 '18

You have some dark ass skeletons in your closet, don't you?

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u/RealPutin Jan 10 '18

I just use pedophile to meet "sexual deviant"

Well given that it has an entirely different well-known definition, this seems stupid

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u/dude071297 Jan 10 '18

Yeah, for real. Any sort of non-standard sexual interest? You're a fucking pedo now, I'm calling Chris Hansen on you. Holy shit what a dumbass that guy is.

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u/H4rdStyl3z Jan 10 '18

Oh great, so what you're saying is that my dad was a pedophile then? Because he was 46 when my mom was 29/30, and that's when they met.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

Yep, if you're ever attracted to someone who doesn't have the floating green checkmark above their head that they get when they turn 18 you're a fucking monster.

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

Haha, you're right, sorry I shouldn't be sarcastic. No, in all seriousness if I see a girl I walk up to her and ask to see her birth certificate, and only if she's 18+ can my body feel attraction. Not sure why other people don't do this, it's so fucking gross when someone thinks a 17 year old is hot. Like come on, it's not that hard to find out their age before your brain and body reacts to them.

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u/Gigadweeb Jan 10 '18

AKSHULLY it's ebleebophleeboflimflamophile

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u/Cereborn Jan 10 '18

No, you have it backwards. You have to say the word pedophile three times, and then they appear to explain the word ephebophile.

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u/sterob Jan 10 '18

Pedophile is the new bogey men like terrorist or gay in the past. So fuck people for wanting to explain that they want to have sex with young women not toddler.

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u/JoJolion Jan 10 '18

I was actually quite surprised to learn ephebophile isn't pronounced the way you'd think. It's pretty interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9fwJDweaU

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u/Scabbiel Jan 09 '18

Who dare summons me! ;3 Just kidding. lol

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u/HampsterUpMyAss Jan 10 '18

What a creepy and weird joke. "ha ha I fuck kids LOL jk"

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '18

You're right, HampsterUpMyAss!

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u/Scabbiel Jan 10 '18

Hey I am not the one with the beastility reddit name: HampsterUpMyAss ;] Nice try though.

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u/HampsterUpMyAss Jan 10 '18

Lets not compare hamsters to children now for ducks sake!!!

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u/My_Name_Isnt_Steve Jan 10 '18

for ducks sake

Now you bring ducks into this too?

Sick fuck

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u/warsie Jan 10 '18

at least these are human children, not hamsters shoved up one's ass

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u/HampsterUpMyAss Jan 10 '18

So hamsters are higher on the food chain than human children?

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u/warsie Jan 10 '18

i think human children are higher up on the total pool than hampsters

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u/ThrowawayPedo12345 Jan 10 '18

and they appear as if summoned

... Hello?

Not quite 40, but I probably still count :p

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u/warsie Jan 10 '18

did you make this username just for the purpose of trolling or seriously? Eitherway, you made me laugh.

Have an updoot.

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u/ThrowawayPedo12345 Jan 10 '18

Seriously. I have a main account that's been here for ages, and I just switch to this account for the odd response.

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u/warsie Jan 10 '18

Well kudos to you even for making such an account given your orientation is stigmatized by much of reddit.

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u/ds612 Jan 10 '18

Who summoned me!

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u/Byeah18 Jan 10 '18

So here I was, minding my own business, when suddenly i realized somebody used ephebophile incorrectly

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u/AsiFue Jan 10 '18

As another user said, don't kid yourself.

Ask some women about what their experiences were like when they were 11, 12, 13, 14.

Ask them about the grown men making inappropriate comments.

Ask them about the men more than twice their age who beeped their car horns at them as they walked down the street, and yelled comments at them as they drove past.

Ask they about how confused they were that men more than twice their age seemingly "did not see" that they were just kids, in regular kids clothes, regular height for that age, not particularly developed in terms of secondary sexual characteristics and not in fact adults.

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u/Bertensgrad Jan 10 '18

Techically jailbait is way closer to main stream legal porn and involves a 14-17 yo who looks close enough to a 18 yo that is becomes pausable deniable that the kid is underage unless you know the actual kid in real life. They look super young but not far enough to fall into the omg this is absolutely child porn. Alot of it then becomes hard to prosecute unless you can track down the photo to the kid and their current age.

Its gets more grainy because there is alot of legal porn that specializes in the barely legal catergory or all the amauter porn for all the 18 yos. The whole point of jailbait is for it to be a blurry grey where its both deniable and at the same time deniable that it isnt.

A whole lot of the selfies of teens eventually goes into this catergory in the internet once it becomes divorced with the identity of the teen.

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u/PaulTheMerc Jan 10 '18

is just .. a non issue

The problem reddit has(imo) in a more general scope is letter vs spirit of the law. That, and false convictions. But speaking of letter vs spirit of the law, here's a recent article. A 14 year old is facing child porn charges for selfies.

On that note, this is mainly a problem in America. I find the majority of the world on reddit is shaking their head at America's laws, and their application.

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u/mysticrudnin Jan 10 '18

it feels like this post and the one you just made before this are arguing with each other. you confused the heck out of me