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u/Knivenine 13d ago
first post I saw in there sexualized rape
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u/Bailables 13d ago
Are you really taken aback by this vanilla fetish?
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u/BendyFanchill 13d ago
Yea atp that is just a fantasy to some people. the real deal is awful. but if its just some play and nobody gets hurt whats the problem?
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u/Knivenine 13d ago
Yes, I just wasn't expecting it. But, I won't kinkshame. Unless someone's fetishizing actual rape or rape victims, I don't see a problem.
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u/Seeking333Attention 10d ago
Cnc is a really popular kink now. The fantasy and actually wanting to commit it are different.
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u/BigScaryFishMonster 13d ago
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u/mayhaps_a 13d ago
Why is this getting downvoted but people saying the kink is good are upvoted? Both are taking the matter lightly because it's not actually real, what's the difference
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u/Complete-Basket-291 13d ago
It both didn't actually say anything and was, imo, more dismissive of the concept as a whole. The second case is still acknowledging its existence.
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u/mayhaps_a 13d ago
No? I feel like that is intentionally finding something negative. it just sounds like "you were jumpscared by an uncommon kink that's funny"
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u/TheDuckPondIsGreen 13d ago
I'm usually not one for kink-shaming, but scrolling through (I'm trans) made me feel really uncomfortable and sick. Even though they say it's not ""actual transphobia"" there's some really fucked up shit on there that goes way deeper than just misgendering or a slur.
Personally, I think all kinks are ok as long as they're not fetishizing an identity/disability/race/ethnicity/culture. It's also not ok if it's illegal and morally wrong, obviously.
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u/AggroThroatGoat 13d ago
I agree, and I 100% regret the intrusive thought to view the sub... that was truly disturbing
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u/mayhaps_a 13d ago
Very similar to women with a rape fetish really, if a woman without it reads it it'll make them sick
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u/Plague_Locusts 13d ago
Yeah I get some trans people like it but I could neeeeeevvvvveeeeeerrrrrrrrr
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u/a_potato_ate_me 13d ago
I kinda love how "ITS A KINK" is literally plastered all over the sub š¤£
That being said, this is one of those things that can actually hurt people uninvolved. I guess it can be okay in a very controlled environment, but I genuinely can't wrap my head around how someone non-transphobic can get off to being transphobic
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u/secretreddit895 13d ago
Sounds to me, if I may abandon all nuance for a second, like the place for chasers who are into degrading their partner.
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u/mayhaps_a 13d ago
it's 100% for trans people with a degradation fetish imo. I doubt actual chasers that dgaf would want to plaster the sub with trans flag colors
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u/secretreddit895 13d ago
Someone would need to be on the receiving end, thatās a good point.
Personally, I could see for example a chaser would have the flag up, kind of like decoration to set the mood, to signal for likeminded folk that they might want to check this out. And for the whole kink/fetish to work, both those who dish it, and those who receive it are necessary. Unless weāre getting into some wild split personality situation.
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u/a_potato_ate_me 13d ago
I guess its possible, but why would they call it a transphobia kink instead of a degradation kink? Its specific which is making me wonder
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u/Hdjbbdjfjjsl 13d ago
For whatever reason there is some people so deep into the whole degradation stuff that theyād rather be treated as completely subhuman, think of the stuff like people who want their partner to LITERALLY treat them like a dog (cage, leash, and all.) I know itās more acceptable because itās not targeted or limited to a specific minority or group of people, but identity/culture based kinks are ridiculously popular if youāve watched porn for more than 5 seconds of your life.
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u/Crabtickler9000 Subdiver Captain 13d ago
To add to what the other user said in response here
Human sexuality is complicated at best and not fully understood. Otherwise, we would know why certain specific crimes happen the way that they do, and we'd likely be able to help prevent them.
But I know a handful of people that visit subreddits like this one. Usually, if they're looking for something like this? It's a very specific form of degradation. And they usually don't like other forms of it and even outside of specific context they may not enjoy it at all.
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u/secretreddit895 13d ago
It could be that someone is into a specific kind of degradation.
For example, a woman might be totally fine with being called a slut by her partner, and similar terms. Get turned on, even. But go dryer than the Sahara, if said partner negatively comments on her body, or calls her stupid etc. If her partner feels gross using terms like slur, whore, etc, but likes to tell her sheās too dumb to function instead, or to call her a pig, they are both into degradation, but in a way that wonāt work for both of them.
Using a more specific name for what you are into exactly, might be helpful in finding people who share your exact kink, rather than something that may be under the same umbrella, but not for you. Could save you time, as well as uncomfortable discussions.
Mind you, this is just me theorizing, trying to translate the phenomenon to terms my brain can comprehend. Nothing about this is scientific in any way, shape or form.
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u/GreenBeanTM 7d ago
Because itās a specific form of degradation, the general ādegradation kinkā covers a lot of things. This way, people who want this specific thing can find it, and other trans people who would be triggered by it donāt have to see it in a broader sub.
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u/Aware-Ambassador9273 13d ago
Shame kinks work by making fun of and admitting things you're insecure about making them acknowledged and eroticized in instead of dragging you down(like the stone)
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u/EmeraldGhostie 13d ago
as a trans girl with a misgendering kink (to any replies: this is NOT your cue to misgender me, you will be blocked if you do), i assure you trans people with the kink exist, and that people who have this kink arent necessarily transphobic (trauma, taboo and exploring power dynamics are some of the reasons people have this kink)
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u/a_potato_ate_me 13d ago
Honestly, it kinda slipped my mind that it could be trans people on the non-reciving end of it, I'm sorry.
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u/TheDuckPondIsGreen 13d ago
Ok, but they have shit like forced detransition, forced pregnancy, rape, and suicide. Just getting misgendered is different from this.
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u/GreenBeanTM 7d ago
Yes, welcome to the world of human sexuality. Some people are into āfucked up shitā, transphobia isnāt just being misgendered, so a sub about a kink for transphobia is not just about misgendering either.
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u/TheDuckPondIsGreen 6d ago
I'm replying to the woman with a misgendering kink, and I'm saying that the stuff in that sub goes beyond misgendering. š
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u/GreenBeanTM 3d ago
Did you actually read my comment? Because itās directly addressing the reason there is stuff other than misgendering in there.
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
They don't want to be misgendered in normal everyday context, but as a sexual thing it's safe with a partner and probably turns them on
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Is misgendering them against the rules (I have the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever)
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u/BigScaryFishMonster 13d ago edited 13d ago
you're probably gonna get banned soon either from here or from reddit entirely
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u/shadowsurge 13d ago
People who like being spanked during sex don't exactly want strangers spanking them in the streets
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u/Hdjbbdjfjjsl 13d ago
I think choking is hot, that doesnāt mean you just start choking me. š wow itās almost like consent is a thing.
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u/EmeraldGhostie 13d ago
my guy
you lose all credibility with this
also do you not understand consent?
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u/Traditional-Baker-28 11d ago
I might be remembering wrong but I remember a post about a sub where guys pretend to be nazis and girls pretend to be jews and "race traitors" To have sex.
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u/Big-Sir7034 13d ago
I mean, people who are into CNC arenāt sexual predators right? This is surely analogous. If you practise in a way that is considerate and responsible to the parties actually involved I.e. those giving consent, then itās a positive thing, and nobody elseās business.
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u/a_potato_ate_me 13d ago
I get the whole consenting parties thing, I'm more worried about someone going to far accidentally or doing it infront of people uninvolved (which does unfortunately happen, those people suck)
My comment about struggling to wrap my head around it was probably worded badly. Most people that aren't transphobic are presumably uncomfortable with saying stuff that's transphobic, and most people do tend to prefer being comfortable during sex. I have a hard time understanding why those people would make themselves uncomfortable for a kink. Hopefully I worded/explained that better
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u/Vivid-Smell-6375 13d ago
I've had many ebony queens and oriental maidens request me to lambaste them with a variety of racial epithets whilst they slurp on my ivory tower and I can assure you most of the bleachbunnies had little reservation pertaining towards their own ethnic group, it is merely a joyous act of which they choose to indulge!!
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u/Final_Risk8185 13d ago
Can confirm, Iām trans and Iāve had guys who might be into something like this bring it up to me and itās always like ??? No??? Do not fucking do that shit. Idk why they think I want to be misgendered. I immediately block them because I know even if I say no and they agree they wonātā¦ theyāll spring it on me during sex because they āgot so excited they forgotā or something.
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u/the8thworld 13d ago
as long as itās consensual, who cares?
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u/munchkin_27 13d ago
Most of the first posts there are tag with ārapešā
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
Concensual non consent. Look it up.
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u/AmaryllisTheWolf 13d ago
Its not rape. Its cnc. If its tagged as rape. Its not cnc. Its just nc.
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
As someone who is part of their local CNC and rape-play community. We commonly refer to it as rape, we also use terms like rapist and bait. Just because you don't like the terminology doesn't mean it isn't CNC. CNC makes up too large of a category for it to simply be labeled just CNC, and having terms like rape actually turn people on.
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u/AmaryllisTheWolf 13d ago
Sorry, I never knew that, thank you for the information I am into cnc myself but calling it rape gives me a bit of panic so itās probably personal preference there. Sorry for assuming š©·
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
I'm sorry for being a bit passive aggressive, I'm just so used to people judging and coming at kink communities in bad faith.
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u/AmaryllisTheWolf 13d ago
Iāll never judge a kink, i have a few of my own that are unconventional :3
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u/ThienBao1107 13d ago
putting yourself into the perspectives of people with these kinks and youāll find calling these acts ācncā much lessā¦ enticing? Than straight up ārapeā, which although carrying a much more negative connotation is also more raw and exciting (for those with kink, i assume).
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u/the8thworld 13d ago
yup. ever heard of consensual nonconsent?
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u/munchkin_27 13d ago
Yes I have I dont need to look it up I know what CNC is Iām just saying they are tagged with ārapešā which if it was consensual I think it would be tagged with something else
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u/the8thworld 13d ago
thanks for clarifying /gen I think some people just prefer those harsher terms. itās hotter for some people to refer to it like that.
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u/Outrageous_Jump98 13d ago
How can a trans person (judging on your pfp) be okay with transphobia? Are you okay with any kind of wicked horrible shit if it has a sexual factor in it?
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u/Gotzon_H Looking For New Subs To Join 13d ago
See the ever prolific bully kink, or any other degradation kink.
Like most BDSM, Itās a fantasy scene that consenting adults engage in within their own spaces. If you donāt like gay marriage donāt get gay married.
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u/noNoNON09 13d ago
I mean, there are plenty of kinks centered on morally wrong stuff. Consensual Non Consent, for example, is entirely based around role playing rape scenarios. The key is that it's being done in a safe space where no actual harm is being committed. The vast majority of people in these communities understand the difference between fantasy scenarios and the real deal. Role playing something bad with other people who are also into that stuff is not the same as condoning those actions in real life.
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u/the8thworld 13d ago
Iām okay with it because Iām in to it, when itās consensual. I think itās hot. some other commenter said something smart about how degradation kinks are taking something you feel ashamed of and making it sensual and thatās why it feels good. thatās a big part of it for me.
also the loss of agency and the feeling of violation.
Iām trans, and I stand against transphobia but in favor of all kink.
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u/the8thworld 13d ago
also yes, I am okay with a lot of āwicked horrible shitā if itās consensual.
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u/Mitsuba00 13d ago
They are not okay with normal transphobia. But with like, being a little degraded and bullied by a partner while they are both giving their consent.
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u/Reasonable_In 11d ago
ah yes the posts about invading womenās stalls and raping them is consensual
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u/the8thworld 11d ago
right, explain to me who gets hurt here. who gets hurt when a person makes a kinky post on an obscure subreddit? do you get hurt, choosing to look at it and make an angry comment? do the women mentioned get hurt by someoneās thoughts?
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u/shizustopitpls 13d ago
I mean, as long as it is consensual I really don't care (yes I know the tag on the first post, it's just CNC and not actual SA).
Some trans ppl use it as like a coping mechanism kinda.
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u/mrEGGboi234 13d ago
This sub when people have a taboo fetish, but keep it to themselves in their own subreddit
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u/BigScaryFishMonster 13d ago
i find it funny that there's gonna be at least one comment like this under the most unhinged subreddits posted here
"omg guys look it's a subreddit about eating frozen testicles of underage boys while shitting on a toilet"
"you've never been to the internet before or something???!!! stop judging people with their fetishes it's completely normal i see it every day while browsing reddit!!!!"
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u/Disastrous_Lobster53 13d ago
Comparing an overall harmless if practiced properly to a crime is a choice
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u/mrEGGboi234 13d ago
jfc I need to mute this sub. Of course a sub like what you described should be called out and reported.
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u/Crabtickler9000 Subdiver Captain 13d ago
Nuance is rare on reddit. Would you ever consider assisting the r/ministryofredditing ?
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u/Mitsuba00 13d ago
One is a kink between two consenting partners. The other one is a fucking crime bro. Grow up.
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u/TheBrattyBrit 13d ago
Oh hey, I know the creator of this sub! She's trans herself, and from what I've seen she does a mad good job of moderating it āŗļø
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u/Icy-Bowl-7804 13d ago
Yea people can do what they want if all sides are consenting but I see a lot of art that Iām like 90% sure is stolen from the creators not knowing itās being written over to make this contentā¦.
Imagine being a trans artists drawing trans bodies not knowing people with this kink are going and writing about misgendering rape fetishises
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u/ImportanceNovel6621 13d ago
Seeing all these kinks makes me sad, because what the duck do you mean transphobe kink. Id like to imagine they're posting about being trans somewhere and aggressively masturbating when they get hate comments
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u/Hugs-missed 13d ago
Good, for them a harmless fetish done between consenting adults is fine. Even if it inflicts psychic damage for me to think about.
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u/IB_exists 13d ago
i think i heard of people with misogyny kinks, so im geussing its something similar going on here. Being used and stuff like that is kinky sometimes ig
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u/goth_eye 13d ago
If you have a degrading kink that's fine but this is a bit too far methinks
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u/Subject_Persimmon588 13d ago
I canāt help but think thereās genuine transphobes in there š
I canāt even tell if then saying theyāre getting off to trans rights being stripped is satire or notā¦ I canātā¦ I donāt even know how to feelā¦
Like I have a slight misgendering kink but only with very explicit consent between a long term s/o, but I would draw the line at sexualizing trump š
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
I mean I understand that. And as for genuine transphobia, it's likely but if they are ever discovered the community will likely ostracize them. That's the joy of kink communities we keep each other safe and root out bad apples.
Also sexualizing Trump is a weird one. And unfortunately when you have a specific kink and it's apart of the broad category it does suck.
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u/pompurumi 13d ago
i think its important that you realise that the entire subreddit ISSS genuine transphobia. its a transphobic kink, there's no need to sugarcoat it.
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
No I think you misunderstand. Most people a part of these style kink communities do not truly hold the hateful views associated with the kink itself. Just like race play or misogyny kinks, these people just have a specific form of degradation that gets them off. Even this community has in its description that no real transphobia will be tolerated. So understand it is just a kink and that most people in the server don't hold the vile hateful views that they use as a method to get off.
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u/Mitsuba00 13d ago
Is not really genuine tho?? Because someone can like degrading their partner and their partner to be degraded it doesn't mean that the first person fucking hates their partner šš
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u/CommiQueen 13d ago
Trauma kinks are fun lol
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u/feminist_fog 13d ago
I mean as long as everyone is consenting then I donāt see a big issue. People are into cnc, ageplay, raceplay, etc.
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u/Gold_Reality_6758 13d ago
I scrolled 3 posts on this page and that's enough to say what the fuck I just opened reddit
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u/altbutnosalt 13d ago
Going to put this here before some people mass report. This is a sub that people with trauma based kinks post in, itās their way of coping. As dumb as it may seem to others, itās one of their only ways to push past some issues
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u/justKowu 12d ago
I mean.. as a trans person, while this IS a really extreme sub, I dont really have a problem with it. I was misgendered all my life, I still get misgendered because I'm pre transition and over the years I kinda learned to see the insults and shaming in a different light. I think for some people its a coping mechanism and if its consensual between adults I say who cares :] The line obviously gets drawn at ACTUAL nonconsent ( NOT cnc)
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u/bee_eatedcement26 12d ago
trans person here, itās not that uncommon of a fetish amongst trans people, itās usually used as a degrading tactic, and it says no real transphobia on the side, no need for alarm!
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u/ftm_throwaway_111110 10d ago
How I like to describe stuff like this is trans folks (like myself) get a lot of shit. From every day transphobia to death threats. Some people deal with these big emotions in the form of sexual energy (if you can't beat em, beat to em, ya feel me?) it's easier to be sexually aroused than to raw dog the mental toil that people actually hate us. While this is not my kink directly, there are some elements that would be classified into this link that I do share. At the end of the day, so long as it is two(+) consenting adults and legal, it doesn't really matter.
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
Just checked it out, and despite the premise they are actually quite wholesome over there and gender affirming. Turns out a lot of kink communities are like that.
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u/Excellent_Fudge474 13d ago
Did we go to the same sub?
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u/SK8GU 13d ago
I more talking about the community not so much the sub itself. Talking with users shows that outside the link they actually are very trans positive.
Edit: I find it odd the the op left out the description where they say to not use actual transphobia. Granted bad apples but kink communities are good about rooting them out.
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u/Excellent_Fudge474 13d ago
Being transphobic really loses its fun when the other person likes it smh
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u/sefradin 13d ago
I hate kinks and fetishes, just go to therapy u fucks
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u/BigScaryFishMonster 13d ago
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u/sefradin 13d ago
Usually itās just trauma that they cope with via fetishizing it. Like women who fantasize about getting raped or men who fantasize about getting castrated. Itās not intentional usually, but eventually it bcomes intentional to avoid therapy and continue behaviors u know are from negative experiences. Iāve yet to meet a person who āhealthilyā practices these fetishes, almost always theyāre just justifying it bcuz dealing w trauma is harder.
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u/Crabtickler9000 Subdiver Captain 13d ago
Subdiver Captain u/Crabtickler9000 reporting and ready to dive into r/Transphobkink . Please stand by.