r/phoenix • u/Logvin Tempe • May 10 '25

Politics Happening Now: Downtown Phoenix Fox News Protest

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This morning saw another strong protest in downtown Phoenix in front of the Fox 10 News station and Phoenix PD HQ. (7th Ave and Washington).

Protesters urged everyone to resist the lies and propaganda the Murdoch family pushes through Fox News and its affiliates.

Please remember to stay polite in this post, trolling or being rude to others on this site is not welcome. If you want to debate the effectiveness of protests or the topic of the protests, I highly recommend posting on /r/azpolitics sub.

PS: everyone knows Fox10 is not Fox News, but their parent company is the same.

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u/DonkeyDoug28 May 10 '25

I love it. But. Protest organizers need to start having a SPECIFIC goal; a SPECIFIC ask or objective. This is what makes protests most effective, historically speaking

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u/Logvin Tempe May 10 '25

Disagree. Resistance to fascist bigots is welcome in any way shape or form.

Go watch the Nixon documentary “Tricky Dick”. He repeatedly told me everyone publicly that protesters were wasting time and wouldn’t change anything. Privately, in his recordings that he made in the White House, he railed against the protestors and they had a huge impact on his decisions.

Trump is a narcissist. He desires everyone’s love and attention. He can’t tolerate resistance. So we resist.

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u/DonkeyDoug28 May 10 '25

I didnt at any point say that protests are useless, nor does your reference refute what i did say

I said that historically they have had far more concentrated aims, and historically they are more effective when they do.

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u/Logvin Tempe May 10 '25

I didn’t at any point say that protests are useless

I didn’t say you did?

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

It bothers their egos.

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u/Xrposiedon May 10 '25

Actually agree. Can't tell how many times I have seen a protest and you have some people holding up, resist the lies signs, stop deportation signs, right next to "my body my choice" signs. There is no clear message, its just all over the place.

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u/yawg6669 May 10 '25

You and dgrant are missing the point. The point of these protests isn't to achieve one specific goal, but rather, it is to maintain, build, manage, and organize the tools and resources needed to effectuate those later protests. These types of things grow awareness AND the movement and keep people engaged, and that alone is a net positive. Making people know that there are others out there like them, and that they are working together, is a net positive. Building a collective consciousness is also a net positive. So overall, yea, these protests are still good. Read "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder for more info.

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u/DonkeyDoug28 May 10 '25

Is there a reason why you couldn't do all those things you mentioned while also having a specific tangible objective for any one given protest?

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u/yawg6669 May 11 '25

No, but it's not required. Also, have you ever tried to organize a protest? It's not as easy as you think.

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u/ProfessorPickleRick May 12 '25

Without a clear objective, it’s just noise

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u/yawg6669 May 12 '25

Disagree.

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u/dgrant99 May 10 '25

Thats the problem with protesting. It is to draw attention to an issue. But we are already aware there is a huge segment of society that dislikes trump, that the 1% control everything without care, etc. So to continue simply stomping your feet about it is nothing more than attention seeking noise. If the leaders of these movements had the true purpose of solving the issues, they’d have a “next step”. Instead, they continue blocking streets, inconveniencing people who most likely support the same issues and alienating them. All to get at “the man” who is effected zero percent by these things.

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u/DrFritzelin May 11 '25

Let's look at it a different way. $500,000 looks a whole lot more impressive when you see it in person rather than a number on paper. Think of protests the same way. So, saying a huge segment of society dislikes Trump, while true, just saying it does a doesn't do it justice. Seeing just how many people in person puts it in better perspective.