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u/crankyticket 10d ago
Yes all very nice ... release the Epstein files.
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u/InAllThingsBalance 10d ago
Ummm…Obama cannot release the files.
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u/_The_Green_Witch_ 9d ago
No, No, they didn't mean Obama. They addressed the President of the United States, Vladimir Putin
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u/Zefyrous 9d ago
No no no, he is the vice president. Benjamin Netanyahu is the current president of the USA.
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u/ryan3797 9d ago
Yeah not sure who your directing that towards
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u/2cats2hats 9d ago
Anyone reading who can release said files, that's who! :D
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u/CraigOpie 9d ago
But there are no files. Nothing to see, except what filthy Obama and Hillary wrote, and what a hoax that is. There are no pedophiles, they don’t exist, never did exist. A lot of innocent people, mainly Trump, could be hurt by the hoax of information that we didn’t find; sure, Bill Clinton is in there too, but that Nasty Hillary doesn’t like him anyway. Cheese Pizza is great, by the way.
Disclaimer: This entire response is satire.
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u/2cats2hats 9d ago
Let's just call them big beautiful files moving forward...the pedofuhrer will love this.
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u/eulersidentity1 10d ago
Ironically Putin probably actually respected Obama more for it. Instead now the president sucks off Putin and he probably just sees him as an object to be used and manipulated.
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u/apeekintonothing 10d ago edited 10d ago
Alex, what is 'a bitch' for $500?
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u/Impossible_Depth_454 10d ago
Trump final answer
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u/Alarming_Matter 10d ago
What we are looking at here is the exact moment Putin realised that Russia would be better off with a weak, unintelligent, easy to manipulate potus.
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u/drgoatlord 9d ago
Russia has had tacodick in their pocket for about 40 years now
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u/nugnug1226 10d ago
Ohhhh soooorry, the correct answer we were looking for is “what is Trump? But we would’ve also accepted “who is Trump” as well.
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u/LateralEntry 10d ago
There’s no $500 anymore, it’s increments of $200
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u/AhhTimmah 10d ago
I’ll take, “what is a pedant” for $1600
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u/skellamans 10d ago
This type of poster would remark that answers are to be given in the form of a question, not board categories.
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u/mythrulznsfw 10d ago
The joint press conference in Helsinki (2018?) comes to mind.
Asked whether he thought Putin was behind the hacking attacks on the US, Trump replied that he “didn’t see how it could be.”
When criticized for his trusting Putin over his own intelligence agencies, Trump, in the ultimate act of spinelessness, said that he meant to say, “I didn’t see how it couldnt be Putin.”
Didn’t have the testicular fortitude to say it to Putin’s face, though. It’s all bravado, all theatre.
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u/asethskyr 10d ago
He was having a lot of trouble not saying "my name is Reek" during that shit show of a press conference.
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u/Faiakishi 10d ago
Not even Theon deserves to be compared to the orange.
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u/TheRealMSteve 10d ago
I'm with you on this. At least Theon had been broken and tortured into insanity. And he had a redemption arc.
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u/Faiakishi 9d ago
It’s also understandable why he did the shitty things he did.
Like, I don’t agree but I understand.
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u/Turalyon135 10d ago
Just their facial expressions when they come out for that press conference.
Putin smiling like the proverbial cat that finally caught the proverbial canary
Trump looking like a dog that just got whipped for crapping on the carpet
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u/Less_Wealth5525 9d ago
Whereas Putin here looks like someone who realizes that he can’t put anything over on Obama.
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u/fgtoni 10d ago
But wouldn’t Trump end the war in one day, because, according to himself, he is respected?
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u/AtomicKittenz 10d ago
He also said he had the cure for cancer and wouldn’t release it unless he got reelected.
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u/fgtoni 10d ago
First he has to unleash the Epstein files
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u/redonrust 10d ago
Russia, if you're listening, please release the Epstein files
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u/IRMaschinen 10d ago
Obama was an adversary. Trump is just a tool.
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u/fieldsofanfieldroad 10d ago
We all know Trump is afraid of Putin. Big bitch energy.
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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 10d ago
He's not afraid of Putin. He's afraid of the kompromat Putin has on him. Donald J. Trump raped kids and Putin has proof. Anyone remember the "P tape?" (Well yeah and he's probably afraid of Putin.)
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u/SubstanceConscious51 10d ago
It was interesting seeing the US with a respectable president for sure.
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u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener 10d ago
Iti was dumbfounded when I heard from someone I used to know that "the world finally respected us again" when Trump was elected and insisted that Obama wasn't respected on the international stage. Fucking Fox News induced brain rot.
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u/PiDicus_Rex 10d ago
On behalf of the rest of the world, your someone that you used to know, is an idiot.
Show them the photos of Tantrump leaving Melania to walk in the rain, compared to Obama holding an umbrella over Michelle while he gets soaked.
One is a clown with ego, the other is a Man showing Positive Masculinity.
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u/ElenaKoslowski 9d ago
They will claim that Michelle is a man and shit on the table and claim victory.
The sooner we accept that these people are gone from our society, the better.
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u/Sanjuro7880 10d ago
I don’t know about that. In 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea Obama did fuck all about it. Don’t get me wrong. I loved Obama as president but that made the US and EU look weak.
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u/eulersidentity1 10d ago
True. I liked Obama. I think he’s the best president the US has had in decades, I’m Canadian btw. But I think he was also pretty flawed too. I think the bar has just gone so insanely low now it’s just gone into the sub basement and bellow.
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u/redsquizza 10d ago
IIRC, he didn't have the legislature, so anything meaningful he tried to pass got blocked.
I'm hoping the USA wakes up enough so that the mid-terms mean the second half of Trump's presidency gets similarly stymied in the houses.
Of course, I guess then Trump just goes full dictator, declaring congress and senate traitors and declaring himself dictator for life to restore a true America in his vision.
I'm not sure I'm even joking writing that at this point.
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u/Toothfairy51 9d ago
Iirc, Moscow Mitch said that "we're going to do everything we can to make sure that Obama fails'. I'm paraphrasing, but yeah. Make sure the elected president fails and fuck whatever that looks like for the country.
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u/kingdead42 9d ago
The problem is that even if the Democrats get Congress in the mid-terms, they'll have to be active in stopping Trump. It's not like he's using Congress to do all the shit he's doing now.
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u/_Damale_ 10d ago
That's probably plan B through K you're talking about right there.
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u/Sanjuro7880 10d ago
It didn’t help that the GOP were racist fucks and stonewalled him at every turn.
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u/eulersidentity1 10d ago
100%. They treated him at times like a servant they want to fetch their drinks. It was disgusting to see. Course… that just accelerated it what the US has now :-(
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u/filipv 10d ago
That's not exactly true. Russian Rouble never recovered from Crimea sanctions.
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u/outersqueeky 10d ago
I'm sure that devastated Russia. No way they would consider further expansion after such a tough blow to the F-ing ruble...
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u/Aqogora 10d ago edited 9d ago
It did, actually. It forced them into an overreliance on being a gas export economy, which has led them to become vulnerable to gas sanctions and Ukraine's relentless destruction of their energy infrastructure. Russia is paying very dearly for every kilometer of Russian soil. The Russian economy is beginning a downward spiral of collapse in the near future, and Putin's gamble now is if he can overrun Ukraine first, with the help of agent Krasnov. They take a few kms of bombed out fields, Ukraine retaliates with drone strokes on oil refineries. The Oil and gas industry is 1/3 of their GDP, and that's been reduced by around a quarter so far. Huge state owned corporations are defaulting on loans, interest rates are at 20% and climbing, consumer spending is at an all time low, and there's an extremely pessimistic outlook on the future of Russia - even if they win this war, these problems won't go away magically, and may in fact get worse once the unlimited military spending stops.
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u/eulen-spiegel 10d ago
Wasn't there something about a red line? He then retroactively explained it away, but the perception of what he meant was all it counted. I think that statement (and not backing it up) was an error.
Using rose tinted glasses doesn't solve anything.
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u/GraXXoR 10d ago
It’s just a photo timing thing. The very next frame shows them smiling at each other.
Context folks. It’s a thing.
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u/sojuicy 10d ago
Get out of of my internet with your so called facts and reasoning.
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u/Zaicheek 10d ago
and the context of this photo was an engagement between two heads of state: this snapshot included. this moment mattered. the smiles also mattered. trivializing the cold look misses the point.
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u/pants_mcgee 10d ago
A camera taking 20 pictures a second can capture any moment you want to push any narrative you want.
If you watch the video of their public interactions they are generally cordial and friendly, as one would expect. The only context of this photo is they are in the middle of shaking hands right before they smile at each other.
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u/mwa12345 10d ago
Hmm. Cold look can be because of a snapshot.
Not saying there wasn't tension...but snapshots can imply context that is the opposite of what a continuous video shows
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u/Dairy_Ashford 10d ago
Trump is trash but this is an overstatement and misframing, the entire "establishment" mishandled Putin, probably going back to George W. Bush.
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u/Guilty-Nobody998 10d ago
If you look right below Putins right hand you can actually see the top of Donnies head.
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u/Actual-Employer-3255 10d ago
Well maybe it’s because Putin doesn’t have video evidence of Obama raping children and getting golden showers.
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u/Earlier-Today 10d ago
Respected him so much he only invaded Ukraine the one time and stole Crimea while Obama's actions to punish Putin for that invasion were so effective that he was able to massively increase the number of Russian moles in Ukraine to stir up problems leading to yet another invasion which Ukraine is still dealing with.
But, hey - the cameras caught him giving Putin a look. That makes up for the massive betrayal of failing to uphold the treaty we had with Ukraine specifically about protecting them from invasion and the huge loss of lives.
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u/dr-tyrell 10d ago
Not one to do whataboutism, and not suggesting you are wrong in your statement. Just wanting to make sure you're not in the same breath suggesting Trump was tougher and more effective with Putin. We got the false promises, kissing up to Putin, the narratives and other facts on this matter regarding Trump which we can easily reference so it should be easy for you to say Trump was not effective with Putin.
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u/krombies 10d ago
What a terrible time to have eyes
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u/Vigilante17 10d ago
Fucking glorious display of actual reality. It’s like a beautiful flower blooming in the first morning sun. Nothing can be truer.
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u/s0methingrare 10d ago
Someone's grandma thinks this is real.
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u/Gilgalat 10d ago
And that grandma will now be pro putin. Because trump is the best thing to happen to America since Reagan.
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u/Afrodite_33 10d ago
Crazy how on top of kissing war criminals, Trump is also a disgusting pedo and was best friends with Epstein who's also a pedo.
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u/Nerevarine91 10d ago
Don’t forget, there are also similar allegations regarding Putin. Maybe that’s what they bonded over
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u/AnnaKendrickPerkins 10d ago
I haven't heard about the allegations against Putin but Trump is trying to take over my country more than Putin is so fuck Trump.
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u/Nerevarine91 10d ago
The Russian dissident and naturalized British citizen Alexander Litvinenko alleged that Putin was a child molester shortly before being assassinated by Russian intelligence officers .
And yeah, fuck Trump.
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u/TwoOk5044 10d ago
We used to be a society
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u/agangofoldwomen 10d ago
Now we got near trillionaires, pedo president, congress making podcasts, AI making all the art, climate worsening, brain rot, secret police rounding up civilians, and all the while everyone is just walking around in their pajamas.
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u/TortelliniSalad 10d ago
To be fair we’ve had brain rot, people walking around in their pajamas, and the climate worsening for at LEAST 20 years now
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u/insertbrackets 10d ago
Whereas Trump will be looking up to him from his knees in “Russia”.
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u/gexckodude 10d ago edited 10d ago
When America had real leadership.
Now we are marked with the orange taint.
Edit: the magats that can read are really upset, all 10 of them…LOL
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u/Tuscanlord 10d ago
Putin will be getting a reach around tomorrow.
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u/rhesusMonkeyBoy 10d ago
I think it’ll be face-to-face vs from behind. Humiliation ritual style.
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u/PretendThisIsMyName 10d ago
TACO pedo is going rusty trombone before Dutch rudder. I wonder if draft kings will take that action.
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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 10d ago
Remember the Russian reset and large red button? Lol
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u/medz6 10d ago
You mean war criminals shake hands.
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u/Majestic_Kade 10d ago
Short memories.
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u/DJ_Velveteen 9d ago
And selective. Look at how the Gaza situation is suddenly a terrible tragedy now that it's bankrolled by a guy wearing an elephant pin rather than a donkey pin.
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u/Bionodroid 9d ago
It's always been an issue, things have just gotten so bad no one can ignore them now.
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u/notprussia69 9d ago
They were just as bad under Biden, just as bad as when the genocide began in 1947/48
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u/qianli_yibu 10d ago
From the title, I expected to see him looking into a mirror.
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u/KrisPBaykon 10d ago
For real, just gonna forget about all them drone strikes
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u/samettinho 10d ago
this is how american style works. They do shit, make 100 movies about it, and be hero in 30 years
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u/cryingonmysnacks 10d ago
We'll rehabilitate Trump's image, too, in 15 years. "At least he's better than Megahitler!"
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u/totallynotapsycho42 10d ago
Every other evil world leader is a tyrant. Only americna presidnets are allowed to be "complicated".
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u/samettinho 10d ago
Aint that cute?
The biggest terrorist in the world, much bigger than osama, is giving candy. But now, bushy-cutie, you have a competitor, satanyahu.
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u/kylo-ren 10d ago
Not even 30 years. He won the Nobel Peace Prize amid drone strikes.
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u/samettinho 10d ago
He got nobel at 2009 for doing nothing. He started bombing here and there at 2011.
Peace prize is very political. Except for hitler and stalin, everyone got it.
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u/TheFriedClam 10d ago
Ever wonder why Trump revoked the rules on reporting civilian deaths due to drone strikes? I wonder if it was because his airstrikes in Afghanistan increased civilian deaths by 330%?
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u/Lord_Trisagion 10d ago edited 10d ago
Good people don't become president. Closest we had was Jimmy Carter / FDR. Even Lincoln was less than almost-good (his motivations and priorities weren't where you'd hope).
But yeah being a war criminal, at least in the past century, always comes with this turf.
And Trump is still the fucking worst of the bunch.
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u/IAmAGenusAMA 10d ago
Yeah, Carter's military support for Indonesia's brutal suppression of East Timor was admirable.
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u/Lord_Trisagion 10d ago
Yeah. Exactly. Him being on the better side of the presidential "good person" scale is a testament to how fucking bad everything is.
Jimmy Carter is about as close to being a good person as a barrel of oil is to being a juicy dinosaur steak- and the vast majority of presidents are still below that.
That is my point.
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u/WakeMeUpB4UPogo 10d ago
Jimmy Carter? The Jimmy Carter, who singed off Operation Cyclon that funded Osama Bin Laden and helped the rise of Islamic Terrorism?
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u/LucidFir 10d ago
28% increase in total bombs dropped, compared to Obama
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/cggWEmKdYI
What's the source for 330% increase in casualties?
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u/Hellknightx 10d ago
When's the last president that wasn't a war criminal, though?
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u/Maleficent_Monk_2022 10d ago edited 10d ago
Jimmy Carter didn’t start nor engage in war, but he was indeed responsible for Operation Cyclone
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u/Most_kinds_of_Dirt 10d ago
He also provided military support and funding for the Indonesian invasion and occupation of East Timor:
The US played a crucial role in supplying weapons to Indonesia.[84] A week after the invasion of East Timor the National Security Council prepared a detailed analysis of the Indonesian military units involved and the US equipment they used. The analysis revealed that virtually all of the military equipment used in the invasion was US supplied.[...] Military assistance was accelerated during the Carter administration, peaking in 1978.[92] In total, the United States furnished over $250,000,000 of military assistance to Indonesia between 1975 and 1979.[...]
The overthrow of the popular and short-lived Fretilin-led government sparked a violent quarter-century occupation in which approximately 100,000–180,000 soldiers and civilians are estimated to have been killed or starved to death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor#US_involvement
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u/Own-Site-2732 10d ago
yeah but americans cant be war criminals because america good rest of world bad
/s if it wasnt blatantly obvious
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u/libretumente 10d ago
Came here for this. Fuck exceptionalism for either side. All world leaders are complicit.
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u/BerriesNCreme 10d ago
Obama and Trump are not the same, not even close.
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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 9d ago
domestic policy: they are not the same Foreign policy: they are far more similar than they are different
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u/JayJay_Abudengs 10d ago
Yeah but don't forget this is Reddit they kiss Obamas ass for some reason
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u/ausipockets 10d ago
Bot thread!
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u/SputnikSauce 10d ago
This is the first thread I've seen like this. So many comments are even worded the exact same. It's unnerving.
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u/TvaMatka1234 10d ago
How do you spot it? I need to get better at this
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u/Blacky239 10d ago
The easiest is probably to look at how old the account is and how many comments it has.
An account that has been inactive for the past 6 years won't suddenly engage in a conversation.
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u/RandomRedditReader 10d ago
Not to mention a lot of the posts here are completely nonsensical and yet still have up votes.
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u/visualentropy 9d ago
Right? That was what I noticed also. Why else would there be 100 comments using the term "Two war criminals" like this? That's so crazy...
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u/Ilikehotdogs1 10d ago edited 10d ago
This photo on many, many occasions has been debunked as not telling the whole story. They were friendly and smiling throughout this exchange.
Edit: I’m not a Russian bot. You just have a bird brain that’s easily influenced by posts like this and yes r/Iamverysmart
Replies are muted now. I look forward to seeing this exact photo reposted again in a few months
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u/jujubean67 10d ago
Exactly:
- https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/russian-president-vladimir-putin-meets-with-his-us-news-photo/599442452 death stare
- https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/russian-president-vladimir-putin-shakes-hands-with-his-us-news-photo/599442348 slight smile
Same meeting, same venue, same photographer.
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u/Noctale 10d ago
There are a lot of photos from this meeting in 2016 where Obama is clearly pissed at Putin. I haven't seen any of him smiling. There are other photos from a meeting in 2013 where they are both smiling, but those were different times, before Russia invaded Crimea in 2014.
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u/AnduwinHS 10d ago
https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-YU243_obamap_G_20130905095100.jpg
https://static-cdn.toi-media.com/www/uploads/2012/06/Mexico-G-20-Summit-Ob_Horo.jpg
Not saying these prove anything, just showing that using still images to judge a relationship is stupid
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u/ScanianGoose 10d ago
Let's not pretend that Obama was some kind of angel. He droned the Middle East to no end.
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u/matty25 10d ago
Or that he was even tough when it came to Putin and Russia.
He clowned on Romney for calling them a threat, refused to arm Ukraine, Hillary gave Russia the goofy reset button, he told Medvedev after reelection he’d have more flexibility, Putin took Crimea under his watch, etc. Obama was a total doormat when it came to Russia.
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u/Spaff_in_your_ear 10d ago
Obama was also a war criminal lol. He bombed children in multiple countries.
Fucking yanks are deluded as fuck.
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u/Spooderman-690 10d ago
And they then proceed to make movies that glorify it
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u/Rage_Like_Nic_Cage 9d ago
C’mon man, that’s not the full picture. The movies also show how killing civilians made our soldiers feel sad.
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u/J-DubZ 10d ago
Two war criminals staring each other down*
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u/aptwo 10d ago
Was gonna say, Obama was a good president in some areas but he’s not an angel like most people think.
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u/InfieldTriple 10d ago
America is uniparty when it comes to foreign policy. This is true of most western nations. Really those who are algined with American interests.
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u/Themanstall 10d ago edited 9d ago
War criminal vs war criminal.
Any president overseeing the war in iraq/Iran is a war criminal.
Edit: and bombing Libya and Syria Edit: us presidents are some of the biggest war criminals.
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u/notta_3d 9d ago
Trump and Putin are meeting on American soil today. Am I mistaken? Wasn't Putin declared a war criminal under Biden at one point? Is that how it works? Must have been more of a political move.
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u/rhetoricalnonsense 10d ago
I hate these snapshots in time made to look like something significant. Here is another:
https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-putin-syria-iran-deal-2015-7
and another:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WB-40196
another:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putins-first-tweet-recalls-warmer-relationship-obama-n58516
Wait. Those doesn't fit the narrative. My bad. Donald Trump is a corrupt piece of shit. But the OPs picture makes the rounds so much and means so little.
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u/Eagle1_Fox2 10d ago
Obama himself is a criminal
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u/Sixaxist 9d ago
Lol, I voted for the guy, and as soon as I saw this post I said: "Game recognizes game."
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u/Papaofmonsters 10d ago
And then Putin invaded Crimea and Obama did.... what?
Seriously, stop reposting this revisionist garbage from a single still frame image.
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u/Sfelex 10d ago
A war criminal staring down another war criminal.
It is weird that people are unaware of the many many civilians that were killed by the Obama administration.
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u/lLikeCats 10d ago
Obama himself was a war criminal too so its two war criminals looking at each other.
Obama fucking loved drone strikes.
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u/MoonSentinel95 10d ago
I mean do Americans just gloss over all the bombing that Obama did?
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u/Nostradamus_of_past 10d ago
But did he condemn or took any action when Russia illegally annexed Crimea?
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