Oh absolutely he was charismatic. Idk why anyone would think otherwise. Although he was best friends with Donald trump and trump seems like a genuinely horrendous person to be around
Oh absolutely. Idk if I would use the word charming for trump though but definitely would use charismatic. Idk though cuz to me, every time Trump opens his mouth both his narcissism and his stupidity are dripping from every word. But enough people are obsessed with him to say that he is undoubtedly charismatic. It’s honestly got me semi-convinced he’s actually the antichrist (even though I’m an agnostic) since it seems like everyone’s under his spell somehow.
"charming" and "charismatic" are subjective so I absolutely think his cult followers find him to be those things. He's so fucking stupid and idk how it isn't obvious to every one.
He's perceived to be a lot of things, and that seems to be the problem. Those are usually also the people who think that vocabulary beyond an elementary level gives the impression of pretension. They want communications to be brief and simple, as if that makes them any more transparent.
I also think that anyone who finds him charismatic, at least from his recent public depiction, is emotionally-stunted. "Charisma," expressed as condescending, borderline (and sometimes entirely) hostile ranting is no more truly charismatic than the bully who takes it easy on the kids who pretend to be their friends. Realistically, a typical dictator or cult leader would have so much more true charisma than Trump, but his bullshit somehow sneaks past so many detectors. It's wild.
I want to think Trump is charismatic, but he is so proud of being a complete dick. Like, I feel like true chrismatic people make you feel very important, as well as themselves. It's a weird dynamic. I think his dumb fans just don't realize he is including them in his insults.
Are you forgetting we have all heard him speak? I will admit charm is subjective to a degree but who is Donny charming? Also, giving people money is not charming them...
I'm not saying you're calling him charismatic but I will never understand why people call him that. Before and during his first term he actually had some kind of energy but more akin to that of a clown that sometimes entertained because of his bufoonish comments and behaviour. Now he doesn't even has that, he always looks bored out of his fucking mind, his posture is very often curved and rumpled. For all his faults, Obama had actual charisma, which I think is something more gracious and subdued.
He's not. He reeks of excrement and is repellent. But he used to be able to talk up a storm before stealing from someone, and doesn't feel guilt nor shame. He's got enough hateful people backing him now that it doesn't matter too much.
Trump gets really stupid people with no moral, spiritual, or psychic center, people with fragile self-identities, to feel special about themselves. "Oh, he's paying attention to me, this is wonderful." People like Joe Rogan are too stupid and incoherent within themselves to not get roped in.
you could give 1 million dollar loans to 1,000 people, 999 of them would not manage to turn it into over a billion in net worth. that confidence won't go very far when a loan is debt lol
I don’t think Trump is either of those things, although I’ve not met him in person. He is mean though and hateful and that’s why maga likes him. He’s the schoolyard bully and they think he’s “funny”
Trump definitely has some sort of charisma. I mean, around half the american populace seems willing to catch a bullet for him, wearing his merch and venerating him like a god-king, even though he is now in his twilight years and can barely speak a coherent sentence.
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u/PunctualMantis 1d ago
Oh absolutely he was charismatic. Idk why anyone would think otherwise. Although he was best friends with Donald trump and trump seems like a genuinely horrendous person to be around