Yeah, that's why different types of crime are committed by different types of people. With mass shootings, you have a lot of emotional instability being acted out. These organized criminal endeavors take a lot to lure the potential victim in taking a lot of planning and require a charismatic, manipulative person who can control their emotional reactions until they have the right conditions to release their impulses and sadism.
In my experience, charismatic people who are willing to share fears and weaknesses in quiet moments, or can turn their charisma down when a moment is clearly about another person are the genuinely good ones.
Well no. Not every charismatic person uses their powers for evil. Y’all need to read The Gift of Fear learn to TRUST YOUR GUT. Use your natural intuition and don’t automatically trust or distrust people based on random characteristics, because that doesn’t actually serve you.
Agreed, though i see a case for arguing its harder for the gut to recognize danger against a charismatic personality since their behaviour is often disarming even for our subconsciousness.
So a little-bitty more suspicion against people that seem to take the lead naturally and get everything they want by being such nice and motivating peeps is warranted id say.
And we know what kind of a guy Epstein was too...? I don't think the person above you was diminishing Epstein's crimes. Charisma has absolutely nothing to do with morality.
Saying someone is charismatic doesn’t mean you personally find them appealing. It means they are charming to people in general. I’m not saying I get it, but idiots seem to love this guy.
Yeah thank you, it’s not that deep. Obviously charisma had a big role in him becoming the idol of millions of people despite being the antithesis to their supposed world view…
He’s also funny. Meatball Ron? Cmon. He’s funny.
He’s the worst. I genuinely wish him tremendous pain and suffering and will feel guiltless glee at news of his death, but I can admit he’s charismatic and funny.
Idiots love him because he appeals to bigots and idiots. He’s not destitute because his dad was rich. Calling him anything positive is objectively incorrect.
Saying someone is “charismatic” is not a compliment or a “positive” as you put it. You can be charismatic because you’re funny or handsome. You can also be charismatic because you’re a manipulative sociopath who’s learned how to appeal to certain types of people. His way of being openly racist while never quite saying the thing that would lead to actual consequences is part of why they love him, as you pointed out. In other words, part of what makes him charismatic to those people.
Not surprising really, that is pretty much the requirement to be able to befriend a lot of powerful figures. Like his relationship with the Saudi prince for example, with Eipstein being an allegedly Mossad agent and all that
Maxwell seemed to be the same way. Her proffer transcripts were fascinating, how easily she rattled off names, time periods, events, relationships, jobs, etc. Even if there are self serving lies in there, I couldn’t retain half of this level of info.
Every picture I’ve seen of him, he looks to be playing to his audience, but in a way that one could believe sincerity if not for hindsight. Even this one, his face is much softer than the ones I’ve seen of him and Trump where Trump looks like he’s saying something terrible like he does, and Epstein is exaggeratedly laughing while turning his face, so his real expression is hidden. If they had a falling out, I suspect it’s something along the lines of Epstein trying to keep his dealings discreet, and Trump being rich, over-exuberant, asshole that says god awful stuff about his own daughter endangering his operations. I doubt they were that close of friends as much as people into shady shit only have so many options, so they keep like-minded company, and look for chances to use them for their gain. And of course they are happy to turn on each other when it looks like consequences might happen because they were only a means to an end (or many ends) in the first place. He’s a terrible person, but you can’t do what he does and get away with it as long as he did without being someone charismatic and someone victims are willing to trust in.
You’re completely right, that famous video of coked up Trump clapping and whispering in his ear. Epstein is laughing but leans over several times so his face is hidden and you can tell he really isn’t laughing.
I have never seen it said like this, but yes, I never thought of it this way but I actually wonder if you are right, now
And remember an interview he kept saying well Jeff hell of a guy or whatever but he likes him even younger than I do was that a little bit of him letting some stuff slip that he “shouldn’t” have
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u/marcosro 1d ago
From one interview in a netflix doc, a woman that met him at a hotel bar said he was extremely charismatic.