r/playstation Mar 31 '25

Discussion Which game has the better horses?

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u/Zxar99 Mar 31 '25

AC’s horse looks better, but RDR2 horses feel and act more like real horses. Giving it to RDR2

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u/ElegantEchoes Mar 31 '25

R* had a whole department working on the horses for years. It took lots of work and time to get right. They really wanted them to feel like an animal with its own inertial physics and wanted to portray some of the different ways horses can behave. The different techniques you'd learn when bonding with the horse and the whole confidence system was quite cool.

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u/Bob69748742 Mar 31 '25

Like how much horses love to run into trees at high speeds

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u/stuffeh Mar 31 '25

Usually, if you let go of the stick, the horse will weave through without issues. You might get clotheslined though.

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u/gavinderulo124K Mar 31 '25

Exactly. If people run into things on their horse, it's because they are actively steering into them. I never had that issue, as I let the horse dodge on its own.

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u/VoopityScoop Mar 31 '25

The issue is that the horse's own dodging doesn't turn off when you're actively steering. That way, you'll try and make one maneuver, but the horse will go a different direction instead, often directly into the thing you were trying to steer around.

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u/EffectiveShopDweller Apr 01 '25

Like… real horses.

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u/lemonade_eyescream Final Fantasy XXVII Apr 01 '25

I feel like in the case of conflict the horse should go the horse's way, but it should turn its head to side-eye the player lol

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 Mar 31 '25

A horse will not generally speed head first into their own death. There are many funny videos of RDR2 horses doing just that, so steering into them is also not realistic.

Otherwise, I'd say the horses do behave pretty realistically in the game, and outside of maybe getting into a wonky camera angle, I never really had a problem running into stuff like that.

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u/Hyperious17 Apr 02 '25

the amount of times I've just straight up ran into large rocks so baffling tbh

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u/ShirtPanties Apr 01 '25

I agree that it’s almost always avoidable but a couple times I had my horse running full speed with my finger off the stick, and the horse would just run full speed into a rock or a tree, usually a rock that would trip it and send me flying, once sending me right off a cliff

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u/Blackrain1299 Apr 04 '25

Mu horse tends to jump over things at a weird angle if i happen to be running alongside something. It almost always ends with her landing on the fence she tried to jump and knocking us down.

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u/CaneDogXXXX Mar 31 '25

Or climb on buildings and stalls

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u/krob58 Mar 31 '25

They consulted with Roach here for maximum authenticity

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u/TheWallaceWithin Mar 31 '25

I've always just let go of the left stick and the horse navigates through the trees on its own.

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u/ElegantEchoes Mar 31 '25

Genuinely difficult to hit trees from my experience, even when I try to steer into them haha. But I've seen it happen to a lot of people.

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u/pmercier Mar 31 '25

Bro, horses have a blind spot between the eyes, if your horse isn’t accidentally running into something right in front of it, you ain’t horsing right.

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u/GreenPhoen1x Apr 01 '25

That's 100% a skill problem. Even the fastest and most twitchy RDR2 horses ride through forests fine when you know how to play.

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u/Logical-Professor325 Apr 01 '25

The horse dodges stuff on its own but people try and steer it making it crash

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u/babagroovy Apr 01 '25

Underrated lmfao

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u/iLoveDinosaurs1 Mar 31 '25

It looking better in AC makes sense given it's come out 7 years after Red Dead 2 but RDR2 definetely has a lot more depth to it. Rockstar goes hard on the details

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u/Spekingur Mar 31 '25

I mean, RDR2 kinda has to get horses mostly right, considering the setting.

In the other games, the setting has a different focus, horses may not be immediately conducive to it.

I feel like the difference could be similar to GTA5 and something like Forza Horizon 5 or Burnout Paradise, where the setting focus is on the vehicles and driving.

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u/Jac_daw Mar 31 '25

I love the profile pic, Ms. Oranje Disco Dancer!

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u/ElegantEchoes Mar 31 '25

Why thank you, officer. :P

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u/DeficiencyOfGravitas Mar 31 '25

R* had a whole department working on the horses for years. It took lots of work and time to get right.

They had a whole team working on accurate anatomically correct horse balls. I'd love to see the meeting justifying that expense.

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u/masszt3r Mar 31 '25

Aside from the constant running into trees because of the auto steering, I'd say this is pretty spot on.

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u/ElegantEchoes Mar 31 '25

Haven't had that happen myself, even when trying lol. But I hear it's common enough.

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u/MercyfulJudas Mar 31 '25

It's never been "constant". You'd do better choosing a different word.

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u/Quetiapine400mg Mar 31 '25

and in the end Dutch's horse still feels tiny af

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u/Mediocre_Scott Mar 31 '25

I legit formed a bond with my horse in RDR2, so much so that I ran cross country for like 10 minutes to buy medicine to revive him after he was shot out from underneath me. There are other horses in that game but that was my horse.

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u/edd6pi Favorite game: Red Dead Redemption 2 Mar 31 '25

I once got ambushed by the Neo Confederate gang and they killed my horse with a rattling gun. I immediately turned off my PS4 so that it wouldn’t save.

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u/huffer4 Mar 31 '25

I had mine for most of the game. Then got attacked by wolves and tried to shoot one and accidentally shot him in the head and then I got mauled to death. I was legitimately sad. RIP Mike D.

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u/Bob69748742 Mar 31 '25

Wow. None of mine have lasted longer than a few in game weeks

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u/mars92 Mar 31 '25

Nice models, but AC horses have been the same since Origins and I think the running animation looks really stiff and unnatural.

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u/Rocco_al_Dente Mar 31 '25

Especially when you factor in how long ago it was made vs AC.

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u/DoubleU159 Apr 01 '25

And the consoles that they’re optimized for

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u/Merckilling47 Mar 31 '25

AC has come a long way when it comes to riding horses. AC1 horse mechanics was very bare bones even for its time lol.

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u/Stakoman Mar 31 '25

Red Dead Redemption 2 came out in 2018...that's the only reason why.

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u/VladDHell Apr 01 '25

Basically, like, graphical fidelity is definitely better since ac shadows is brand new, but rdr definitely spent a long time perfecting the art of horse

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u/UnluckyFriedChicken Mar 31 '25

That horse isn't from RDR2, what I said else where;

I debunked this on Tik Tok as fake.

The RDR2 horse ISN'T from the game, the mane is on the wrong side and the background isn't from the game. It looks like outside blackwater but there is no scenery in the background which is impossible as no matter the angle you always get some sort of scenery.

Also the horse is a low res picture compared to what is seen in RDR2, there is more shading and angles if you look at it in the game.

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u/EricSanderson Apr 01 '25

Who are you talking to? What horse?

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u/UnluckyFriedChicken Apr 01 '25

Read what I wrote

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u/zactotum Mar 31 '25

Yeah, no competition here really. Every other horse I’ve used in a game either stays exactly where you leave it, or if it’s stolen, tries to go home immediately. RDR2 horses act like horses though. Which is great but also sometimes infuriating. Like a real horse.

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u/TieShot760 Apr 01 '25

The horse shown there looks like a doll compared to the rest of the horses in the game, not sure why they chose that one in particular

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '25

RD2 also came out in 2018 on last gen hardware. Rockstar would’ve blown shadows out of the water if they had a current gen iteration.

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u/FeelDeadInside Apr 01 '25

In Red Dead's defence, its 6 years older.

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u/cosmicr Apr 01 '25

Had to scroll down so far to find an objective serious answer.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

True, I like slick almost robotic animations in AC:S reminds me of phantom pain. But man RDR realism is unbeatable and the relationship between you and the BOY is peak cinema.

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u/TomClancy5873 Apr 03 '25

Saw Gameplay for Shadows, and the horses look like they’re floating

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u/FreeRealEstate313 Apr 04 '25

Thought bro was out here playing animal crossing.

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u/thatmusicguy13 Mar 31 '25

Well shit, AC is 6 years newer than RDR2. I would hope it would look better

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u/Zxar99 Mar 31 '25

That was more for the people that were wondering why people are saying RDR2 over AC. Its more than just looks and even then it doesn’t look much better by a large margin there’s just more a bit more detail in the face in AC.

The horses are a lot more expressive in Red Dead I can’t say the same AC.

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u/proficient2ndplacer Apr 01 '25

I will go out of my way to say the AC shadows horse is the single worst controlling shit ass horse in any video game, ever. It doesn't follow/catch up to you if you whistle while running, it constantly gets stuck on terrain. It actively wants to run into trees or twigs on the ground and get stuck and just lose all momentum. Etc. it's so insanely bad to use

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u/Moose_Electrical Apr 01 '25

Part of that I believe is made even worse by the map. It never felt this bad in previous AC games because they generally had wider open areas to traverse. Shadows map by comparison is pretty dense and narrow; makes the terrible horse controls stand out even more

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u/Zxar99 Apr 01 '25

Oh yea it handles terribly. The fact there is no button to slow it down or make it stop is bad as well. It shouldn’t be difficult to just turn it lol

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u/QuoteGiver Apr 01 '25

Eh, that part I give a little more to intentional portrayal of how actual horses would work. Turning a horse is not always a simple matter.

But the getting stuck on terrain bit is a problem, sure. I haven’t noticed it too bad yet, but maybe I’m not daring enough with where I try to take the horse.

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u/Eaglefire212 Mar 31 '25

Is that ac even out yet? I’d bet they look nothing like that on release

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u/QuoteGiver Apr 01 '25

Yes, it’s been out. Yes it’s a gorgeous game.

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u/Eaglefire212 Apr 01 '25

I looked it up after asking. “It’s been out” yeah for less than two weeks.

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u/QuoteGiver Apr 01 '25

Plenty of time to take a screenshot, yes.

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u/SnooMuffins4587 Mar 31 '25

After RDR2 I was looking for an open world game. Picked up AC Origins. It was going quite well. Then I picked up the horse and immediately deleted the game.

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u/kapsama Mar 31 '25

If I want a real horse I'll go to a ranch. I don't like the controls in RDR2 at all.