r/politics • u/ONE-OF-THREE Canada • Mar 12 '25
Paywall CEOs say they are losing faith in Trump: ‘I don’t trust that what’s said today will be true tomorrow’
https://fortune.com/2025/03/12/ceos-losing-faith-trump-tariffs-yale/5.9k
u/123abc098123 Mar 12 '25
Think they would have learned the first time around
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u/DowntownsClown Virginia Mar 12 '25
And I thought CEOs are relevantly intelligent?
I guess I was wrong
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u/ILikeLenexa Mar 12 '25
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Mar 12 '25
Dear god that's all I deal with at work.
We have a ton of MBAs in technical product development positions and NONE of them have spoken to any of our thousands of clients.
They "design" a feature, some how get it to deployment then they come back with "bad adoptions numbers".
Then during several all-hands meetings, other teams are like "Yea that was a bad idea from the start. Our clients would never want that. " and the response we get are things like "Well per our research this is what's ask for the most" and we'll typically get someone with a "And I've worked with close to 80% of our 8000 clients and the people USING our product and not the managers who just glance at that work, and I've never been asked for this feature nor can I even see how it's helpful".
One of the MBAs snapped back one time telling us all his various degrees and accomplishments only to hear one of our 20+ year vets say "Yea? And look now, you're coming to us to fix a problem you created".
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u/Unfair-West5630 Mar 12 '25
One of the MBAs snapped back one time telling us all his various degrees and accomplishments only to hear one of our 20+ year vets say “Yea? And look now, you’re coming to us to fix a problem you created”.
What a chad
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u/withwhichwhat Mar 12 '25
I honestly blame the rise of the MBA for much of what has gone wrong in the US economy, as much as consultant predators like McKinnsey and the relentless mass looting of financialization. The primary ethical lesson taught seems to be the toxic myth that any public good done by the corporation is a betrayal of fiducial duty to the stockholders. The misuse of Excel by greedy middle managers to reduce costs .001/transaction over a billion transactions is why every grocery sack is double bagged, and why Pintos were blowing up in 1980.
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u/dastardly740 Mar 12 '25
One of the consequences of MBA-ification has been the rise of the generic manager. It is clearly a problem in higher education, both public and private. And, even creeps into elementary and secondary public education with so many adminstrators that have never been educators. Medicine is another example where MBA-ification has created problems.
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u/brandnewbanana Maryland Mar 12 '25
The ease of getting mba degrees just creates a lot of top down bureaucracy. Which is never conducive to good management
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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon Mar 12 '25
I thought DOGE was taking care of all of this!
Kidding! They only fire people who actually work!
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u/changee_of_ways Mar 12 '25
They only fire people who actually work!
God, you really said it succinctly. It's like they were given a mandate to track down all the people who actually make things happen or improve them and then shitcan them and destroy the agency.
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u/MRCHalifax Mar 13 '25
I have a mild defense of the generic manager: some people are very good at their productive jobs, but make terrible managers, and vice versa. For example, you might have someone who is a genius at coding and can solve complex production problems quickly. But that same person might make an awful manager, because managing is an entirely different skill set. With that said, expertise with the subject matter can obviously go a long way towards being an effective manager.
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u/gsfgf Georgia Mar 13 '25
Yea. Professional managers are a good thing. However, it shouldn't be verboten to pay the people doing the actual work more than their manager.
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u/UNC_Samurai Mar 12 '25
People love to bitch about what they perceive as “useless” liberal arts degrees; I’d rather have a hundred art history or philosophy majors than one MBA.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts Mar 12 '25
“Socrates would not be granted tenure in our modern university system.” - Martha Nussbaum
I wonder how many of them could figure out if that’s a slight against his famous intimidation of the wealthy/elites versus an indictment of the entire process?
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u/Vio_ Kansas Mar 12 '25
I mean, Socrates was forced to drink poison in his own time, so it's not like he achieved tenure back then either.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts Mar 12 '25
Heh.
At least while however flawed, we have the Apology to help reveal how much a sign of the times moving forward on those charges really were.
As it’s not like even the prosecutors believed in the case against him.
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u/LordofThe7s Mar 13 '25
People with art degrees would actually create things of beauty and use, if we didn’t have all the MBAs destroying it all to make the shares go up .004% this quarter.
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u/Mobile-Marzipan6861 Mar 12 '25
Harvard created the MBA the 70s. It was for EXPERTS In their existing fields. People with 20+ years experience. Now it’s just another merit badge anyone can earn. Yes you have work at a job. But nobody with less an 10 years experience should be allowed to ‘earn’ an MBA.
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Mar 13 '25
Agreed. Min 10 years and only available to licensed professionals moving into management roles.
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u/wordsonascreen Washington Mar 13 '25
The sole purpose of a business entity is to increase shareholder value - Milton Friedman*
This underlies much of what is taught in MBA programs, and is rarely openly questioned. This is the root of the rot that consumes American business.
*I don't recall the actual quote verbatim, but this is the gist of it.
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u/realblaketan Mar 13 '25
Milton Friedman is who I would shoot in the head if I had a time machine
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u/mikesmithhome Mar 12 '25
fiducial duty to the stockholders
wasn't it prior to the law changing that required this above all other concerns, that back then businesses had "being a positive force for their communities" in their mission statements? i might be misremembering and pulling that out of my ass
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u/withwhichwhat Mar 12 '25
You're absolutely right. Robert Reich writes a lot about this.
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u/mikesmithhome Mar 12 '25
oh i like him. maybe since it's a law then it can be rewritten and we can get out of this "only the next quarter matters" madness we are trapped in
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u/kehakas Mar 12 '25
I like posting this old article when the subject of fiduciary duty comes up
https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/4/29/15471634/american-airlines-raise
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u/joe5joe7 Mar 12 '25
“This is frustrating. Labor is being paid first again,” wrote Citi analyst Kevin Crissey in a widely circulated note. “Shareholders get leftovers.”
Jesus christ the lack of self awareness to actually write this in a note
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u/TurelSun Georgia Mar 12 '25
Googled this guy and he looks like what the real-life version of Patrick Bateman would look like.
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u/withwhichwhat Mar 12 '25
Wow. I have a pet theory... the real answer to the Fermi paradox is a specific type of Great Filter that hits during late stage capitalism/enshitification: "The Great Sphincter".
Because sooner or later assholes ruin everything.
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u/betterplanwithchan Mar 12 '25
Which is why once I finish my MBA program I’ll be moving towards non-profit work
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u/VRGIMP27 Mar 12 '25
That last line is awesome. Smacked the elite education right in the mouth
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u/Anthropoideia Mar 12 '25
I'm a social scientist (anthropologist), I do research into institutions and financialization, datafication and so on as well as public health. Living for this conversation-- I think it's just the wrong kind of education for the job. MBAs hamfist market logic into situations that it doesn't belong in.
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u/paupaupaupau Mar 12 '25
It's this, perverse incentives as organizations (e.g. corporations) grow in size, and the nature of who gets awarded power and how. MBAs are a toolset, but to a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
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u/xterminatr Mar 12 '25
Yeah, MBA really isn't useful without other degrees and/or experience. I'm a software engineer with an MBA, and it is very useful for me in designing things for various business needs. But dealing with other folks with MBAs and no other useful abilities is indeed not ideal. MBA was like a kid's coloring class compared to my computer engineering bachelor's, but people think it's super special for some reason.
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u/boo_jum Washington Mar 12 '25
That sounds like my dad - his father put demands on him when he went to uni, such that my father ended up getting degrees in both business (his father's demand) and mathematics (his actual interest). He went on to get Masters degrees and put 2 years into a PhD in pure mathematics before pivoting away from school and going into mechanical engineering. He has since moved into risk analysis and other maths-focused fields in predictive modeling. He says frequently that never once has he had a job where the things he learnt in business school helped him at all.
While I don't think business school is out-and-out useless, I do think your approach (an MBA coupled with a different applicable knowledge/skill set) is the only way it's truly useful.
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u/seaurchinthenet Mar 12 '25
I once had an MBA as a report. He said in an email that the customers didn't understand him because they were idiots, and then he cc'd the customer by accident. Sometimes problems just solve themselves;)
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u/GunnieGraves Mar 12 '25
Holy shit yes. We had the VP of Sales who had an MBA from Wharton. We’re working on the technical build for the sales platform a massive new product line. He mandated things that were absolutely going to (and did) cause massive technical deficiencies and issues that still continue to this day.
My favorite moment was our BA, who was meticulous in note taking, hit him with one of those “this you?” moments. Having one of those hour long tech meetings and he’s spouting off his stupid fucking ideas. Next day we’re all in another meeting recapping things and he blurts out “whos stupid fucking idea was that?!” BA pulls up the notes from the previous days meeting and goes “you did”. It was nice. That was a good day.
I can name exactly two graduates of Wharton and they’re both complete fucking morons.
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u/tarlack Mar 12 '25
Sounds like we worked at the same company, expect non of the PM’s at my old company had MBA’s. Taken from support, or Se or even marketing.
My favourite is when they do try to contact customer they only ask questions that push the narrative they have for the feature they want to build. Used to piss clients off, they wanted to talk about problem a with product and PM was trying to get confirmation the client wants a new option.
Thank god I got laid off and they gave me lots of cash to go away.
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Mar 12 '25
We have a few people that are like that and while many of our clients are absolute dumbasses that can't get out of their own way, we have a few elite ones that will tell our support people and devs what an issue is to make sure it's documented THEY told us.
We had a new-ish PM do what you described and didn't realize that we sometimes give some of our clients in-house email addresses for a few reasons. So he rips into this client about being stupid and not getting what he was trying to say.
The response he got back from the client was: "Oh we got it. We didn't like it because unlike you we understand this product AND our business. We also understand to check who we're talking to before insulting clients".
Dude didn't get fired but he humbled the fuck up quick when the client CC'd our CEO and CFO who they knew personally.
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u/Canuck-In-TO Mar 12 '25
Were any of their MBA’s in the field that the product was developed or were their MBA’s in speculative fiction and fantasy writing?
It seems these people live in a fantasy world sometimes.
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u/oliversurpless Massachusetts Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
Amazing, and as per “a picture is a thousand words” deserves a place right alongside?
“The strange thing about my utter lack of education in management was that it didn’t seem to matter. As a principal and founding partner of a consulting firm that eventually grew to 600 employees, I interviewed, hired, and worked alongside hundreds of business-school graduates, and the impression I formed of the M.B.A. experience was that it involved taking two years out of your life and going deeply into debt, all for the sake of learning how to keep a straight face while using phrases like “out-of-the-box thinking,” “win-win situation,” and “core competencies.”
When it came to picking teammates, I generally held out higher hopes for those individuals who had used their university years to learn about something other than business administration.”
https://www.agileleanhouse.com/lib/lib/People/MathewStewart/TheManagementMyth_MathewStewart.pdf
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u/rhysdg Canada Mar 12 '25
Tell that to every MBA who suddenly became a Tech Lead, CEO hybrid in that last AI rush. It was a painful thing to experience as a developer
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u/the8bit Mar 12 '25
CEOs are intelligent, but being a billionaire causes brain rot that makes you think your intelligence applies to every question and domain. Elon is probably good at something in there, but it clearly ain't SQL or Path of Exile
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u/substandardgaussian Mar 12 '25
Elon Musk is good at having been born to Errol Musk.
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u/ThePlanck Foreign Mar 12 '25
Its not just billionaires, people in all sorts of field who have great success are susceptible to this.
(For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_disease)
The extra problem with the mega-rich version of this is that on top of their crazy beliefs they have vast amounts of money they can use to lobby politicians to pass laws based on those beliefs
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u/the8bit Mar 12 '25
+1 yeah its more complicated, mix of success + money/cultural isolation.
It is annoying how a certain amount of wealth gap makes it very hard for two people to socialize, which causes business layers to only socialize with their peers, creating stratified cultures. My last job was CTO adjacent and none of my peers had any idea what a line worker was doing and only the most basic interactions with them. Hell, I tried really hard to bridge that as I'm not a 'suit' but even still I think it took me like 3 months into the job to interact with someone at a 'leaf node' (not in charge of reports). Its gonna sound crazy, but it took a lot of effort to pierce through the layers of management and find them.
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u/UNC_Samurai Mar 12 '25
One of his oldest (and now former) friends said the only thing Elmo has ever invented was his reputation.
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u/TurelSun Georgia Mar 13 '25
IDK, most CEOs I've been involved with were just dudes with money, and people can end up with money for completely random reasons entirely unrelated to if they're actually good at anything.
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u/withwhichwhat Mar 12 '25
*not all CEOs... see e.g. Don Jr. ;-)
Elon actually did code a city guide web service called Zip2 for newspapers back in the late 90's or early 2000s. He's basically a cross between Erlich and Russ.
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Mar 13 '25
I have a suspicion that in the next 10 years, Elon will be fully exposed as a fraud and even when he was actually 'doing' Dev work at Zip2, was hiring cheap labor to do the actual coding and just taking credit for it.
Like him or not, if Zuckerberg wasn't the CEO of meta, he's at least an actually educated software dev and would probably be working for an investment bank writing trading algos for a mid 6-figure salary. From what i've seen of Musk and heard from former Telsa engineers, I don't think Musk has the technical skills to work as an entry level web dev.
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u/fermat9990 Mar 12 '25
Learning theory explains it. If you kiss someone's ass repeatedly, you tend to believe that it is worth kissing
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u/peterabbit456 Mar 12 '25
This is really important, though tangential to this discussion.
EPA launches sweeping deregulation effort on industrial emissions rules
It's a totally political decision. It is going to affect all of our lives. The rules of this sub do not allow submissions, no matter how political, from a non-approved publication.
We need to see this a lot more than a clone article repeating what was said on 5 other articles submitted the same day.
They are flooding the information zone with sh*t so that articles like this do not get noticed. Spread the word, and find the other stories like this one.
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u/nosayso Mar 12 '25
The fact that they ever had faith in Trump shows they're the dumbest bastards on the planet. He was adamant about tariffs and exactly zero people who aren't actively being paid by Trump think his trade war is a good idea, anyone with even a basic education in economics knows its a bad idea, anyone with even a basic study of history on tariffs and trade wars knows its a bad idea. They went along because they wanted their taxes lowered and regulations lifted, never mind the fascism, and worst comes to worst they'll just appease him because appeasement always works on fascists, right?
Seriously, dumbest bastards on the planet, I can't wish them enough misfortune.
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u/Thurwell Mar 12 '25
They started out stupid. Deregulation and low taxes aren't good for business. Good infrastructure, strong contract law, and independent agencies ensuring quality and safety are good for business.
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u/Weekly_Rock_5440 Mar 12 '25
Could have put your money and soft campaigning toward the sane candidate . . . but taxes still weren’t low enough for you and a few regulations make you feel sad sometimes . . .
Now how do you feel? Fuck off, all of you.
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u/vahntitrio Minnesota Mar 12 '25
The first time around there were people that knew how to distract Trump with shiny objects to prevent him from focusing on implementing his more destructive ideas.
Now it's just yes men that carry out his every impulse.
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u/_mort1_ Mar 12 '25
At the end of the day, they are in it for those sweet tax breaks.
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u/Pretend-Excuse-8368 Pennsylvania Mar 12 '25
I have no faith in any CEO that had or has faith in Trump.
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u/1eejit Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
I have no faith in any CEO
More like it. Most of them are just political ass coverers who love spreadsheets and fellate their Boards.
Company performance poor? Desperately try to find an external factor to blame it on. Certainly not their previous dumb af decisions or strategy.
Company performance good? Oh yes, that was our great Team headed by me. Definitely nothing to do with a strong market.
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u/espresso_martini__ Mar 12 '25
Last time wasn't this bad. It's been far, far worse this time around. Trump clearly has no idea what he's doing. I seriously think he has cognitive old age issues.
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u/rabidstoat Georgia Mar 12 '25
Last time he had people who would distract him from some of the ridiculous things he wanted to do. Now he has only sycophants.
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u/helpjackoffhishorse Mar 12 '25
“Losing Faith”. Hilarious. Cheeto Jesus has lied his entire life. Time for the CEO’s to feel the pain if they voted for him.
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u/monkeybawz Mar 12 '25
Would have thought they would have learned that when he bankrupted his first casino.
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u/PhysicalGraffiti75 Mar 12 '25
Truth is most of them are just as stupid as the rest of us if not more.
When I worked in finance I met some of the richest people in my state and by god were some of them stupid.
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u/TeutonJon78 America Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
They should have, but his first term was still nothing compared to the daily whiplash this term has.
This time things he's bleating about/majong EOs in the morning are reversed by the afternoon.
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u/magisterdoc Mar 12 '25
First term was him just saying outrageous shit every day of the week. Now 20/7 he's actually doing crazy shit and screwing with countries'/people's well-being/equilibrium. This won't end well for a majority of us.
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u/SmallPPShamingIsMean Mar 12 '25
He's been infinitely more destructive in the short time since he's been inaugurated than he was in his entire first term. And there is a lot bad stuff that he promised to do in his first term that he didn't, I can somewhat understand. But he's still trump at the end of the day and he campaigned on this stuff so my empathy can only go so far.
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u/djazzie Europe Mar 12 '25
Or, you know, any time over the last 40 years he’s been in business. He doesn’t exactly have a stellar reputation.
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u/Mental_Mixture8306 Mar 12 '25
He ran on a platform of "retribution".
His entire life he has been mocked and excluded by the New York business elite. They thought he was a clown (and he is) so he was never part of the in-croud.
Now he is exacting his revenge. He is trying to prove he is smarter than them by doing the same shitty business practices he did as a developer. Try to leverage his position/money into forcing others to comply. Thats all he has ever done.
If it fails? He doesnt care. He is getting even with the people that made fun of him for years.
And they lined up to do it.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Mar 12 '25
Musk is the same I think. Wanted to be seen as a genius and respected by the intelligentsia but they saw very quickly that he is not very smart and basically rejected him as an intellectual equal do now he needs to get his revenge by going full anti-intellectual Nazi.
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u/RBVegabond Mar 12 '25
Musks big turn happens to coincide with SA accusations, which I’ve noticed happens a lot.
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u/Aacron Mar 12 '25
His turn aligns perfectly with California telling him he can't make workers show up to the Tesla factory during a pandemic. He took being told no very badly and has made it his mission to burn down any system that has more power than him.
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u/NecroCannon Mar 12 '25
Yeah I remember he got really butt hurt after that, then again, he’s so pathetic he had a mental breakdown after getting boo’d once.
You chose to be at the front of the national stage and acted like a fool, you did that to yourself, Musk. He acts like a teenager that don’t understand accountability while being old with several kids.
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u/DukeOfGeek Mar 12 '25
Pretty much the entire oligarchy is like this, he's just doing it out in the middle of the parking lot under a spotlight all high and shit. The Public Freak-out of oligarchs.
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u/Castdeath97 Foreign Mar 13 '25
I think it was a bit before, the Cave incident feels like a turning point for him.
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u/Aarcn Mar 13 '25
I thought he was a POS when he kept trying to offer an unwanted submarine and cakes rescue divers pedos
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u/AutistoMephisto Mar 13 '25
Exactly. We are being ruled by Golden Children. You know what I'm talking about. That kid who could do no wrong in their parents eyes, who got everything they ever wanted, and were shielded from both emotional and physical conflict, to the point of becoming unable to distinguish between the two. I was half-joking with some friends that Musk is so vain, that if he were to receive a black eye from someone throwing a solid fist into his face, the emotional damage would be worse than the physical damage.
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u/hydroxy Mar 13 '25
It was basically like Roko’s Basilisk. The huge amount of power he has now is because everyone was scared that he might succeed and did things to help him, like delay trials, supported him politically, etc… We are where we are because he did play that mass psychology game well.
The people who voted for him are the majorly at fault group tho, I’m from Europe and seeing the kind of reality distortion that’s pervasive in the US makes me fear that my own country could backslide into having confidently incorrect morons drive everything into the ground while falling for the some crap conman’s ego petting.
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u/Electric_Conga Mar 12 '25
A cursory glance at Trump’s entire career and personal life would have revealed this to any thinking person.
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u/heckin_miraculous Mar 12 '25
But now it's hurting their bank accounts!!! The only true reality-check.
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u/maraemerald2 Mar 12 '25
They knew he was a liar, but they didn’t think he’d lie to them.
This is just more leopards eating faces.
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u/spidereater Mar 12 '25
Tbf this is significantly more chaotic than his first term.
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Which actually makes it worse because he did all that crap in the beginning and he did it knowing he would run for a second term.
Now that he has no fucks to give? Of course he would be worse. They better hope he doesn't try to pull some third term bullshit (or no more terms cause I'm a king!) like Bloomberg did.
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u/Th3_Admiral_ Mar 12 '25
It's weird how you and I managed to figure this out but the leaders of major companies couldn't.
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u/avanross Mar 12 '25
“Corporate PR firms conclude that publicly expressing faith in trump is damaging their global brand image and hurting profits, so they have instructed their bosses to pretend to distance themselves from him while theyre in front of cameras”
Theyre obviously just saying what their advisors told them will be more profitable in the long run, just like they were doing when they endorsed him in the first place.
Fucking leeches
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u/gsfgf Georgia Mar 13 '25
I mean, the tariffs are going to be legitimately bad for Wall Street.
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u/bloodychill Mar 13 '25
They’ll be legitimately bar for everyone. Welcome to the next Great Depression.
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u/sachiprecious North Carolina Mar 12 '25
How are people JUST NOW figuring out that trump is a liar and contradicts himself constantly??? I just don't get it. He has lied and contradicted himself so many times that there's an entire Wikipedia article about his lies and the article is labeled as "too long to read and navigate comfortably." How has he lied this much and yet people still trust him?!
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u/coxonator Mar 12 '25
Confirmation that CEOs are dumb.
Anyone with half a brain could have told you this was going to happen.
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u/RCG73 Mar 12 '25
They thought he could be bought. He can be. But Krasnov had already been paid for
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u/MarxistMan13 Virginia Mar 13 '25
His loyalty is to power and attention. Money just facilitates those things.
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u/sakumar Mar 12 '25
CEOs got to where they are by sucking up to their bosses. So they are very good at that. But once they become CEO then who's their daddy? Donald Trump?
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u/BCMakoto Europe Mar 12 '25
We told you so. You decided to go for it, anyhow. Now eat your consequences like the rest of us.
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Mar 12 '25
It's funny that you think people with this amount of wealth will suffer any real consequences.
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u/spicy-chilly Mar 12 '25
They're probably shorting stocks right now and getting even wealthier.
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u/AnOrneryOrca Mar 12 '25
anyhow. Now eat your consequences like the rest of us.
You mean lay off a ton of workers and take a golden parachute on their way to ruin the next company
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u/ShowerCurtainRings Mar 12 '25
It’s almost like Donald has no idea what the fuck he’s doing.
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u/WoofDen Mar 12 '25
On the contrary - he knows EXACTLY what he's doing, and that's destroying the USA at the behest of Putin.
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u/Sideshift1427 Mar 12 '25
Naivete seems to be a job requirement of a CEO.
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u/Seven-Prime Mar 12 '25
Yeah interlocking directorship is a big deal that most don't realize.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlocking_directorate
Check out some of those network diagrams.
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u/TrevorLolz Mar 12 '25
After several years of him making up the craziest lies about Obama, 4 years of a bonkers Presidency and 4 years of him trying to steal democracy after losing an election in order to avoid jail time, you’d think they knew what was coming.
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u/ONE-OF-THREE Canada Mar 12 '25
How quickly CEO optimism has turned.
talk off the record about “navigating Trump 2.0.” Gone is the optimistic dream of economic growth spurred by Trump’s pro-business mindset around taxes and regulation. In its place is the grave uncertainty of not knowing what this administration will do next. As the host, Yale professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, noted afterward, the consensus was one of bewilderment, condemnation and a feeling that “Trump’s policies were bad for the U.S. economy.”
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u/DmAc724 Mar 12 '25
“Bad for the US economy” is the exact point of everything he is doing. They should have listened, and believed, when he said he wanted to be President for Life and that no one would have to worry about voting again after 2024. Everything he is doing is to set up an emergency so that he can validate installing himself as Emperor. And these CEO chucklefuks enabled him getting there.
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u/42nu Mar 12 '25
Really wish more people understood this.
He's INTENTIONALLY creating grave amounts of uncertainty and disruption to the global economy.
He needs enough civil unrest from desperate people with nothing to lose to justify Martial Law and extra judicial arresting of politicians, journalists, activists, dissenters without due process (which they just started testing with that green card university student).
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u/DadJokeBadJoke California Mar 12 '25
Calling President Zelenskyy a dictator that refuses to hold an election was just more of his projection.
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u/KittyGrewAMoustache Mar 12 '25
I just don’t get how this was so obvious to so many of us who aren’t CEOs and don’t have an MBA or a degree in economics but the people who were supposed to understand this stuff as part of their jobs just didn’t?
It reminds me of the lead up to Jan 6 when it was so obvious to so many what was going to happen yet apparently the politicians and law enforcement were shocked? You could see them planning it online for weeks in advance! Trump couldn’t make it more obvious that he’s not a serious person and is completely insane and dangerous. Why are all these people who most need to understand this not understanding it?
Sometimes I feel like there’s only a small fraction of the world that hasn’t gone insane. What’s going on?
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u/NecroCannon Mar 12 '25
They’ll get fucked in the ass like they deserve and we’ll have to suffer through it.
I hope they touched up those fancy bunkers, they’re gonna need them soon.
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u/PleasantWay7 Mar 12 '25
If you are a CEO and didn’t feel that way before the election, you should resign in disgrace because you are utterly unqualified.
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u/NecroCannon Mar 12 '25
That mask off moment is something I’m never going to forget.
You sided with idiot fascists, not the smart ones, pure mouth drooling idiots, and expected to prosper from their bright ideas because you’re just that blinded by the idea of more money.
I honestly don’t care if all of this ends up screwing corporations, good luck dealing with the billions in debt from AI development while you helped roll in a recession, that’s smart. This isn’t even short term quarterly gains smart.
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u/Lemp_Triscuit11 Mar 12 '25
It wasn't true today either jesus fucking christ how did you get this far in life
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u/sugarlessdeathbear Mar 12 '25
Well what in the sweet name of fuck took them so god damned long? This has been true of Trump for decades.
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u/DrBunsonHoneyPoo Mar 12 '25
MMW the corporate overloads will get him impeached. Money is the biggest motivator for the gop.
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u/Chuhaimaster Mar 12 '25
They’d better get started before he holds all the cards and tries to destroy their companies or throw them in jail.
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u/DrBunsonHoneyPoo Mar 12 '25
Agreed, they need to do something in the next week. I can see Trump causing a shut down to get his way.
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u/Chuhaimaster Mar 12 '25
It would be nice to see sociopathic CEOs do something meaningful to stop Trump even if it came strictly out of their greed and need for self-preservation.
But I’m not holding my breath. Most probably think they can still negotiate their way to something better under an authoritarian Trump regime than they can with corporate Democrats.
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u/mb1 Mar 12 '25
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Liars who lie are starting not to trust proven liars who lie. mmkay. meow, meow, kitty.
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u/Top-Long2653 Mar 12 '25
Sorry dumbfucks. It's a little too late to have buyer's remorse. You knew what this mouth-breathing knuckle dragger was planning and you ignored it in hopes you'd fucking benefit from it. Now that you don't get to have your cake and eat it, there's suddenly a problem. I hope every last major corpo that funded this nazi gets the shaft and goes belly up
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Mar 12 '25
This honestly feels like watching a prison guard at a facility that houses death row inmates saying "You know, I'm starting to think these guys aren't very nice."
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u/rgc6075k Mar 12 '25
I really don't think any of these CEOs are qualified to lead anything if they didn't know what to expect after Trump's 2016 term and the run-up to that. These same nitwits probably still think some neighbor is eating their pets. If a CEO can't evaluate a person's basic character then what is the CEO really good for? Maybe PowerPoint slides.
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u/SnooStrawberries3391 Mar 12 '25
Slow CEOs. Very slow on the uptake.
Us non CEO’s never had a morsel of faith in the King of Bankruptcies.
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u/jratcliff63367 Mar 13 '25
I don't trust what he says when he says it. I don't even need to wait a day.
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u/RealHosebeast Mar 13 '25
That these people get paid a million dollars a day to be this stupid is the most depressing thing
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u/CJohn89 Mar 13 '25
Losing faith
There were people running companies dumb enough to have faith in him in the first place
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u/mymomknowsyourmom Mar 12 '25
It's weird that so few of the looeegee posts ever criticize Trump and company. Bill Gates gets it rough for some reason, though.
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u/_mort1_ Mar 12 '25
Make no mistake, most CEO's still back him, because they will be getting sweet tax breaks, to hell with the rest.
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u/uhohnotafarteither Mar 12 '25
What the fuck are they doing trusting what he says today in the first place?
Dumbasses
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u/AutoBidShip Mar 12 '25
That is really bad, because you do not have to wait till next day to find out what was said yesterday would hold water the following day. He keeps changing his mind like a brat kid who is never satisfied and doesn't know what the heck he is doing. I guess you all were too stupid to not have figured that out earlier. Plus the guy really does not care about you nor your businesses, he is busy making an ad for Tesla. What have you done for him lately compared to Elon? Greedy bastards you do nothing and expect everything. Cheap CEOs.
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u/Killerrrrrabbit Mar 12 '25
Any CEO that still trusts Trump deserves to be fired for stupidity and incompetence.
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u/coreychch New Zealand Mar 12 '25
“I don’t trust that what’s said today will be true tomorrow”
Because Trump loves chaos. He thrives on it. He loves making other people squirm and keep them guessing as to what will happen next.
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u/aravarth Mar 12 '25
He should have never had their faith to begin with.
The GOP has historically been terrible for the economy.
Full stop.
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u/lastburn138 Mar 12 '25
You should have learned that lesson ON HIS LAST TERM. Morons.
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u/joshdoereddit America Mar 12 '25
What is the purpose of this article? I made sure to read it, but am I supposed to feel bad for these rich assholes? Am I supposed to think that they actually give a fuck about the shitstorm that we, the average citizen, is going to have to endure?
Fuck every last one of these CEOs. If any of the elites at this Yale shindig gave a rat's ass about any of this they wouldn't back Republicans.
They're just bummed they won't make as much money as they would. "Going to have to wait on that new car or third home until later. Oh darn."
Get bent. The rich are the problem.
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u/lawyerjsd California Mar 12 '25
Look, I get that COVID has fucked with everyone's memories, but DID THEY FORGET EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED LAST TIME?
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u/phinatolisar Mar 12 '25
Losing faith? They still have some faith? I knew from day one 10 years ago he was a charlatan (and a moron), and I didn't know anything about his lame reality TV show. During that time he's gotten worse and worse. JFC.
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u/vikkids Mar 12 '25
Why would any CEO have faith in a convicted felon? If a convicted felon and rapist lived next door, would he trust his family was safe?
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u/useyourelbow Mar 12 '25
"Losing faith"? They witnessed his first Presidency. How could they have possibly believed anything he said.
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u/Technical_Pair6934 Mar 12 '25
So what else is new? We have always known he is a congenital liar. You cannot believe ANYTHING that comes out of this baboons mouth. When did he win them over? When trump grabbed the wives and daughters by the pussy? CEOs suck ass.
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u/MagicalTissue Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
Hard to believe CEOs trusted him in the first place. They would usually make decisions basrd on data. And the data and history on trump is just bad.
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u/Madouc Europe Mar 12 '25
You can trust when he opens his filthy mouth only horseshit comes out. He is permanently lying in every sentence!
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u/h0tBeef Mar 12 '25
Huh, almost like having that much money causes you to be completely divorced from reality? and therefore dumb as fuck?
Weird
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u/bravo_ragazzo Mar 13 '25
Americans we are so dumb. Like no body remembers just 4 yrs ago?! The daily whiplash and asshattery that occurred for 4 yrs?
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u/dr-wolf1640 Mar 13 '25
And they didn’t know he’s a pathological liar!?!?!? My god!?!?!? WTF…really!?!?!?!? This explains a lot why we’re so F’d
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u/xerafenix Mar 13 '25
Oh no! Somehow, the man who was synonymous with lying is unreliable with what he says? Who could have ever seen this coming? If only there had been a decades-long history that was publicly available for anyone to read that I could have used as a reference about this man in particular, that could have given me enough evidence to avoid this somehow completely avoidable disaster!
Curses! Even if I had only used all my senses to observe him long enough to notice that not only does he know nothing, but he is also so mentally unhinged, morally bankrupt, and has the maturity of a little boy who tries to sneak into the girl's locker room that he shouldn't even be in charge of a morning shift at taco bell never mind an entire FUCKING nation.
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u/sheba716 California Mar 13 '25
Honestly don't understand anyone with a functional brain cell thought a convicted felon with a history of cheating his subcontractors would make a good president. Plus the fact he had what, 6 bankruptcies? That this man was a better choice than a competent woman of color. I hope that all these CEO's lose all their money for supporting this SOB.
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