r/politics • u/rapidcreek409 • May 08 '25
Paywall Bill Gates accuses Elon Musk of ‘killing’ children with USAID cuts
https://www.ft.com/content/bdd9bb89-ac3c-4043-9ca4-bc7efbd41fed2.3k
u/imconsideringdascrod May 08 '25
Bill Gates is correct
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u/ratwing May 08 '25
I have a colleague with a grant was to work with an established network of clinics in Africa to give PREP to children nursing with mothers that have HIV. Elon Musk was responsible for eliminating that grant.
Yes, Elon Musk is responsible for killing people.
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May 08 '25
Elon Musk is giving babies HIV.
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u/rogozh1n May 08 '25
That is so over the top and impossible to believe.
But, at the same time, it is true.
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u/ranger-steven May 08 '25
What is unbelievable is how people don't care. I never really blamed the media for shaping opinions to the extreme that the last decade has. Sure, always knew people made decisions on the limited picture they had, but I assumed most people had a moral fiber or breaking points that were self established or held up by other sources. NOPE! If the 4th estate wants to plaster over shocking immorality and illegality and present a "business as usual" tone, the vast majority of people just go with it. We see stuff daily that would have dominated months of discourse and caused riots.
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u/WrongdoerIll5187 May 08 '25
They have been lied to. Fox News spent years saying how we are giving all of our money away and now trump is fixing it. They don’t care about good will, money well spent, or the global spread of disease, because trump is helping THEM now, not some Africans.
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u/ranger-steven May 08 '25
It's not just fox. Look at any broadsheet media. They will harp on anecdotal stories to create manufactured outrage to drive fear of the "other" but they downplay blatant corruption, platform misinformation, and place the same weight on easily debunked lies as easily verified and unambiguous facts. It's propaganda top to bottom. My point is that I knew this, but didn't quite realize how critical these outlets are to legitimizing and organizing opposition to blatantly cruel, oppressive, and illegal behavior. I had always assumed the media handled things like civil rights in a similar way but people organized around it. I'm finding with deeper research that as bigoted as power structures were at that time they weren't united in disenfranchising people of rights as they are now.
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u/WrongdoerIll5187 May 08 '25
I don’t feel like the Atlantic or the economist is particularly biased. They’re not all the same, there is amazing journalism out there
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u/Responsible-Draft430 May 08 '25
We're talking about his effects on cutting government programs though, not what he does in his personal life.
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u/soonnow Foreign May 08 '25
Yeah but it's black babies, so it's a-ok for him. Some would say you are threatening him with a good time.
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u/NinjaLanternShark May 08 '25
Hey now don't want to offend. Gotta put "killing" in quotes like the article. Pfft.
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u/peipei222 May 08 '25
To be fair, articles put things in quotes to say that it was the exact words that were used.
But yeah I get what you mean. Putting it in quotes also makes it feel like they don't agree
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u/dalivo May 08 '25
"The world's richest man killing the world's poorest children" is a helluva tagline.
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u/dertleturtle May 08 '25
https://imgur.com/a/IbPayTG Chatgpt did a good job
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u/imconsideringdascrod May 08 '25
“All of my training sessions with Ghislaine and Jeff have led to this”
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u/MayIServeYouWell May 08 '25
But it doesn’t matter at this point.
He needed to be saying this years ago, repeatedly. We all did.
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u/corruptredditjannies May 08 '25
What would that have changed? Plus how could he comment on something that hadn't happened yet?
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u/imconsideringdascrod May 08 '25
I agree. It kind of reminds me of people in politics who wait until they publish a book to disclose incredibly important details about criminal conduct or behind-the-scenes goings on. Like yeah, thanks for mentioning it… would’ve been helpful when we really needed it hear about it though.
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u/Allen_Awesome May 08 '25
Imagine having a billion dollars, looking around the world at all the struggling people, and asking yourself "How can I get more money out of these people?"
How broken a person would you have to be?
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u/cipheron May 08 '25
My guess is Musk is desperate to become the world's first trillionaire so that he goes into the history books.
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u/Ricky_Ventura May 08 '25
Has to be. Especially with the whole breeders fetish. It's no different than Andrew Tate's obsession with legacy except he doesnt have the money to go into history books so he just has a ton of kids with a ton of women.
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u/Gerik22 May 08 '25
At least Musk uses IVF and surrogates so the women don't have to be in the same room with him. How does Tate find so many women that can tolerate him for long enough to be impregnated by him?
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u/Ricky_Ventura May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
I think per the criminal charges filed in the UK and Romania, most of it is actually forcefully coerced. It was a black couch scenario. He would play the part to date them, then coerce them record them as a "just for them" thing only to later publish ig under the guise of helping them be successful, and then ran a porn site with the videos as blackmail while also using physical intimidation as a successful pro kickboxer.
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u/CaptainFeather May 08 '25
Lmao he's definitely going to be in history books, just not for the reasons he wants - like the first person to do a Nazi salute during a presidential inauguration.
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u/Scratchlax May 08 '25
Now ask 10 people on the street who the world's first billionaire was.
Does anyone really care?
I'm fairly worldly and would say it's probably Rockefeller, but it's not like a fact that everyone knows.
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u/IBJON May 08 '25
I mean, can anyone name the first billionaire off the top of their head?
A legacy like SpaceX and what Tesla could have been would've been more notable than how much money you can hoard in a lifetime
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u/JustHereSoImNotFined May 08 '25
you don’t even have to imagine a billion times 300. really, most people CAN’T imagine that because a billion is already such an unfathomable number that multiplying it doesn’t change anything
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u/_violet_skies_ May 08 '25
Yup. He’s beyond broken, and rotten to his core. Full on cartoon villain shit.
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u/PatchyWhiskers May 08 '25
This is accurate. Some have already died, probably hundreds of thousands will die over time.
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u/Backwardspellcaster May 08 '25
And the cynic in me says Musk has done that especially intentionally.
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u/NinjaLanternShark May 08 '25
Musk's personal views have tinges of eugenics, so you're probably not completely wrong.
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u/timetogetoutside100 May 08 '25
yeah, I mean the guy has his own, personal eugenics IVF breeding program to have his kids, he had 3 kids within weeks of each other, he's sick!!!!
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u/Fine_Luck_200 May 08 '25
Wish Alliexpress Howard Hughes went the same route of germaphobia and held up in a hotel room. But no we get to be a part of the nutter butter's little nightmare.
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u/ManicRobotWizard May 08 '25
God no. Then we’d be besieged with clips of him cheating at video games.
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u/Fine_Luck_200 May 08 '25
I mean if it was that or the current dismantling of federal agencies, would take the poorly done streamer wanna be route.
Trump tapped Musk so that with their cults combined they formed Captain distraction.
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u/ReasonEmbarrassed74 May 08 '25
Aren’t they all boys?
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u/timetogetoutside100 May 08 '25
Well, he considers the Transgender one a failure, ( I love how his Transgendered daughter pushes his buttons)
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u/joranth May 08 '25
Worse, he’s said he considers the transgender one dead
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u/KikiWestcliffe May 08 '25
As a father, he is a complete failure,
I can’t believe there are people that idolize a man who threw away his own child.
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u/movealongnowpeople Kansas May 08 '25
He's not a father. He's some rich dude who purchased the ability to have biological offspring.
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u/DJ_Aftershock United Kingdom May 09 '25
His daughter coming on a Hasan stream to talk about how dogshit Elon actually is at video games is one of the funniest things I've ever seen on Twitch
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u/IThinkImDumb New Mexico May 08 '25
He has three daughters. One with Grimes and two with the Neuralink lady. There's speculation that Amber Heard's daughter is his as well, but this has never been proven
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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 May 08 '25
No he has three girls I believe.
If you have IVF you have a higher chance of twins. It’s also not fully possible to only produce boys without terminating the viable pregnancy.
None of this means he loves them like his boys. I’m not qualified to speak to that part. I’d wager he thinks of them as tokens to be spent like old school aristocracy.
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u/PatchyWhiskers May 08 '25
It is possible to select the sex of fetuses during the IVF process. This was developed so that parents with genetic disorders that only affect one sex can make sure they have a healthy child. Musk is clearly using it to minimize the number of girls he fathers, because he's a eugenicist freak and boys can spread his seed more widely than girls.
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u/TitanDarwin May 08 '25
because he's a eugenicist freak and boys can spread his seed more widely than girls.
It's also why he's so mad about his one daughter because she was - as she herself put it - literally going against the product he purchased.
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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 May 08 '25
Yes, it’s adjacent to eugenics. I will be the last to defend the weird oligarch with a breeding fetish.
Understand you can’t control it entirely without being willing to terminate when you hit the point of verification. It’s very high success rate which is why he almost always has boys. When you toss several embryos at once you increase the chance of one of them attaching correctly. The downside if you are a eugenist is you also have a chance for twins and one of them being a girl.
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u/Unholy_Crabs May 08 '25
He is a narcissistic hoarder. There's nothing special about him, except his hoarding is mostly children and wealth.
People do this shit all the time, have dozens of kids or hoard massive unnecessary amounts of anything.
We call them crazy. I'm tired of pretending these billionaire types aren't completely unstable hoarders.
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u/ManicRobotWizard May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
Let’s not forget his dad married his own stepdaughter. The one he raised for 18 years.
This doesn’t really fit in the conversation, I just like sharing that fact as much as possible.
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u/Direct_Ad2289 May 08 '25
Oh. Like Woody Allen did?
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u/ManicRobotWizard May 08 '25
Sort of, but worse, I think. Woody and Soon-Yi were never really in a father/daughter relationship (according to them) as she spent most of her time with Mia and Ronan Farrow and Woody was barely around.
When they married he was 62 and she was 27. They’ve had 2 kids.
Errol Musk (now 76) and Jana Bezuidenhout (now 35) met when he married her mother, Heidi when Jana was 8 and they remained married for 18 years, divorcing in the 90’s. So Musk was in her life, as a father, for the duration.
After the marriage they didn’t see each other for 10 years until Jana called musk asking for help. She had an 8 year old child and described herself as “battling”.
He took her in, and as one does, he developed a relationship with the little girl he raised and had two more kids together.
Errol Musk has repeatedly said it’s his job to procreate as much as possible and finds nothing wrong with his relationship with his stepdaughter and now, former wife and mother of two of his kids.
So, take that for what you will, but I think Errol is a completely different class of predator, groomer, SA offender and all around despicable excuse for a human being.
Yeah, woody Allen did a similar thing on the surface, but those two have been together for decades and don’t seem to be as legitimately insane as this whole mess.
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u/just_a_bit_gay_ Michigan May 08 '25
Dude is an apartheid afrikaaner no shit he wants dead African kids
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u/Melodic_Reveal_2979 May 08 '25
Gates activity in the “helping people in need” realm is surprisingly spotty, the podcast Profiteers Vs The People did a whole thing on his restricted donations, it’s bad. For Musk though, I think it’s worse than malice, I think Musk cut this program because he needed a doge-win and feels complete ambivalence towards the victims of this decision, as does Trump. A win at any cost
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u/PatchyWhiskers May 08 '25
Yes, he’s a white South African getting revenge on the blacks that “took” his country.
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RFK is not and he's causing just as much damage its definitely ideology that is causing this issue and not just revenge.
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u/TheSniper_TF2 May 08 '25
It's like they're two different people with different motivations.
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u/Clerence69 May 08 '25
And all brought together by narcissism. Isn't life neat.
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u/tifumostdays May 08 '25
It really is the narcissist party (NPD). Anyone who isn't in jeopardy of acting wrong (selflessly) and being canceled.
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u/Ok_Flounder59 May 08 '25
RFK is a different case. Heroin addled brain that’s been decimated by a worm.
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u/kaityl3 Georgia May 08 '25
Ey, don't talk about it like that. He doesn't really have them. The brain worm thing should be reviled for a different reason: he made that shit up during his divorce as a reason why he was "too mentally incapacitated to pay child support". Once his ex wife killed herself and he didn't need to keep up the charade anymore, he immediately switched to "the brain worm was never a problem and I'm fine".
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u/Rivercitybruin May 08 '25
didn't know that....
remember Ted Field was adamant that he was never really uber-rich.... ok, i can buy that.... oops, statement was part of a contested divorce (i believe)
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 May 08 '25
Heroin addled brain that’s been decimated by a worm.
as opposed to a ketamine addled brain decimated by narcissism.
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May 08 '25
Perhaps but plenty of the others are all ideology based around hate, to simplify it to one reason only and not a broader outlook though I suspect many of them are drug based brain damage as well!
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u/mayhemandqueso May 08 '25
The ones i know are drug damaged. But also there are these southern communities that have group think and deep rooted family trauma and abuse that perpetuates the hate for “will my dad love me if i hate the same people?”
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u/Ok_Flounder59 May 08 '25
Could be. I don’t see RFK as a true believer a la Musk, Rubio, Hegseth, etc, who I all believe to be extreme racists.
I genuinely think he isn’t all there. Whereas Trump and co may not be all there, but that isn’t why they are comically evil.
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Comic book villain arch definitely fits the current era they folk the wrong lessons from marvel and DC!
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u/nucumber May 08 '25
RFK Jr wrongly believes he's a man of science while Mucks believes thinning the herd in this way improves the human race
Different motivations shared by trump, arriving at the same result,
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u/PatchyWhiskers May 08 '25
I think RFK Jr is also a eugenicist. He wants to remove the weak from the gene pool by reintroducing deadly diseases. Musk is a racial eugenicist. He wants more white people and he's not too concerned about how Healthy they are.
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u/Any_Will_86 May 08 '25
Not even a fll South African- his mom's family was part of some nazi adjacent movement in Canada then high tailed it to SA where they would be more tolerated. Met the dad who apparently is high wealth low character & produced Elon. He has Canadian citizenship thanks to the Mom & picked up US citizenship at some point...
Its pretty frickin rich how much of making America great is masterminded by a pair of South Africans (Thiel and Musk) who seem to see themselves as world citizens. And shocking that the 'pro Isreal/don't discriminate against Jews' crowd is pissed at the Germans for reigning in a far right/anti-semetic political faction.
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u/PandaPanPink May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
It’s a very deliberate not often talked about form of fascism. Outright denial of society’s shortcomings. If you’re poor and need assistance the country looks bad, so we remove proof of that on paper. It’s why they’re going after ADHD and other mental health, because if we have accurate numbers on this too many people are “sick” and basically nobody is normal and that fucking terrifies people whose entire identity is engrained in being so normal that they’re better than others.
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u/GreatMadWombat Michigan May 08 '25
Is it cynicism or is it just the ability to make reasonable inferences on a white South African whose family made money on a fucking apartheid mine and who has visibly done lots of Nazi shit and made puns about doing that Nazi shit? If it goose-steps like a Nazi, and seig heils like a Nazi assuming that the targeted cuts aimed at services that help black people are intentional is not a big leap
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u/ZenAdm1n Tennessee May 08 '25
USAID was the soft-power that dismantled apartheid in South Africa. I've been screaming this from the beginning. This was retribution for destroying Leon's apartheid birthright.
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u/Uncle_Greg May 08 '25
But that can’t be right. Musk has specifically said that he’s never hurt anyone. Now how do we know who to believe? /s
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u/hurlcarl May 08 '25
He's 100% indifferent since they're likely not white children. He's hyper focused on lack of population yet does not want to help areas of the world where the population is growing. HMMM WONDER WHY THAT IS.
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u/sanityjanity May 08 '25
Musk doesn't perceive them to be human.
Never forget that USAID was a major factor in ending apartheid in South Africa. And that Musk is a nepo baby of a man who owned an emerald mine that exploited that apartheid labor.
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u/nycdiveshack I voted May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25
They are dying right now along with women in Sudan. USAID was promised to give over $120 million to the crisis there this year and now it’s frozen.
https://youtu.be/7DARp8THT0U?si=TZODHbRhVpus3iwe
Edit: this is the link I meant to share
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u/soldforaspaceship May 08 '25
They aren't white babies.
Musk doesn't care.
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u/PatchyWhiskers May 08 '25
More precisely, he is a white south african eugenicist who specifically wants less black people in the world.
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u/PLeuralNasticity May 08 '25
He only cares about raping children and using them as human shields
He's a kompromised Pedophile Putin puppet and always has been
Following in the steps of his father
In the early 1990s, Errol, then aged 45, married Heide Bezuidenhout, a 25-year old he described as "one of the best looking women I've ever seen in my life".[24] They had two children.[25] Jana Bezuidenhout, who was his stepdaughter from that marriage, and four years old at the time Errol became her stepfather,[25][26] later became his romantic partner.
In March 2018, it was reported that Errol had fathered a child with his adult step-daughter Jana Bezuidenhout.[25][27] In July 2022, Errol gave an interview to the tabloid newspaper The Sun, announcing that he and Jana Bezuidenhout had another child.[28][29] Musk has a total of seven children, according to People magazine in November 2022.[15] Errol once commented, "The only thing we are on Earth for is to reproduce."[30]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Errol_Musk
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa
https://electrek.co/2024/12/16/tesla-major-issue-self-driving-computer-inside-new-cars/
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/tesla-full-self-driving-rear-end-accident/
I've been saying for a long time that he has never been anything but a puppet frontman for clandestine operations of the FSB for Putin or his allies ie. Netanyahu/Xi/Erdogan/Modi/MBS/Iran etc...
My profile is mostly comments about FSBelon
Imagine you were planning another coup. Would Teslas be good surveillance and then robomurdertaxis?
Would buying Twitter give you access to massive volumes of kompromat on huge swaths of individuals?
Would Starlink or PayPal give you any information that would be potentially valuable to find vulnerabilities? Starlink in the super rich especially with their yachts.
What neighborhoods do Teslas tend to be parked in and where do they tend to be driven to work and by what demographics?
Would full access to every camera on every Tesla potentially be valuable to gather intelligence?
Would Putin want very app associated with Elon or his businesses to be malware or have a malware build ready?
Just scratching the surface but I encourage people to look at your understanding of Elon and his companies through the lens of it all being on Putins orders, just like Trump.
https://cybernews.com/news/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-russia-investment/
https://jalopnik.com/tesla-fanboy-shadowbanned-from-x-for-complaining-abou-1851639230
Elon is a kompromised pedophile Putin puppet and has been since before he started Zip2 and before his first trip to Russia in October 2001.
Trump since the eighties
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/
Child Rape Tapes convey more complete control than anything. Almost all of their top puppets are owned through proof of them raping children. It's the only way the FSB/Mossad/CCP are comfortable investing so much power in them. Bribery doesn't come close to sufficient with how much financial/political power they concentrate in their upper echelon of puppets. Trump/Thiel/Vance/Peterson/Jordan/Carlson/Thomas/Diddy/Drake/MrBeast to name a very small sample across different parts of society. Many for a long time, but Trump since the eighties is one of the longest tenured.
In case people are confused who Produces/Distributes the vast majority of CSAM
Here's a bit about Ghislaines dad from Wikipedia.
"The Foreign Office suspected Maxwell of being a secret agent of a foreign government, possibly a double agent or a triple agent, and "a thoroughly bad character and almost certainly financed by Russia". He had known links to the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), to the Soviet KGB, and to the Israeli intelligence service Mossad.[60] Six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence services attended Maxwell's funeral in Israel, while Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir eulogised him and stated: "He has done more for Israel than can today be told."[61]
https://www.torquenews.com/1083/tesla-exploded-bomb-after-fiery-crash-shrapnel-takes-down-passerby
https://jalopnik.com/tesla-workers-trained-autopilot-to-ignore-road-signs-so-1851642989
"Of the 971 government requests Twitter has received since Musk took over six months ago, the company has fully complied with 808 of them and partially complied with 154, according to Rest of World’s report."
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4457311-putin-praises-elon-musk-a-smart-guy/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/29/first-edition-israel-icc-investigation
https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule
https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/business/angela-chao-death/index.html
“I think there’s no stopping Elon Musk,” Putin told Carlson after the pundit asked him about the growing prevalence of artificial intelligence. “He will do as he sees fit. Nevertheless, you’ll need to find some common ground with him. Search for ways to persuade him. I think he’s a smart person. I truly believe he is. So you’ll need to reach an agreement with him because this process needs to be formalized and subjected to certain rules.”
Beware Leon's razor
"Incomeptence, in the limit, is indistinguishable from sabotage
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u/Graymouzer South Carolina May 08 '25
Has he shown a lot of compassion for white babies? I am struggling to come up with an example of Musk having compassion for poor white people.
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u/Jcoms May 08 '25
Projected that 500,000 kids will die by 2030 if they don't get the care they previously got
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u/Talulabelle May 08 '25
EXACTLY!
Why doesn't the headline read: 'Gates points out the obvious, that Elon Musk's USAID cuts have killed thousands of children.'
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u/BloatedBanana9 May 08 '25
The NYT I think estimated millions of lives lost between various different diseases if that funding doesn’t get reinstated. Those would be Nazi Germany kind of numbers, but since it’s more indirect than the Holocaust, that’s somehow going to make it ok in the minds of many people.
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u/RabidGuineaPig007 May 08 '25
wait until RFK flies over and convinces governments to not vaccinate.
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u/GrossGuroGirl May 08 '25
Just wanted to put this where it'd be seen - no pressure but if you feel an urge to edit it into your comment for visibility that'd be pretty cool of you 😎
We already have a reasonably accurate death count.
A Boston University professor set up a site tracking estimated deaths (based on aid that would have been dispersed): https://www.impactcounter.com/dashboard
You can filter by aid organization, the relevant issue (e.g. tuberculosis), impact by # of deaths, and program status (discontinued, etc). Her methodology is also up on the site for anyone interested.
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u/Tyler_Zoro May 08 '25
Yeah, "accuses" in the sense that a) musk pointed the (economic) gun b) musk pulled the (funding) trigger and c) kids died.
We leave any conclusions up to the mathematicians who can apply suitable linear regressions. /s
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u/TranquilSeaOtter May 08 '25
Bill Gates isn't accusing Musk, he's accurately pointing out that USAID cuts will lead to dead children.
If this foreign aid is not restored before the end of 2025, more than 176,000 additional adults and children around the world could die from HIV, according to excess death estimates from a new digital tracking initiative by Brooke Nichols, associate professor of global health. Her tracker also indicates that at least 62,000 additional people could die from tuberculosis (TB)—roughly one death every 7.7 minutes—if foreign aid does not resume by the end of the year, and these figures are steadily increasing.
Source. By providing aid, the US helps to stabilize the world so our troops don't get put in harms way. An example of instability putting our troops at risk is Yemen. Houthis are launching missiles at commercial traffic and as a result, the US Navy was sent out to protect shipping lanes. One incident almost resulted in one of US Navy's ships almost getting blown up and it had to activate its last line of defense.
With so many kids dying, not to mention all the food we used to give out, instability will follow. Where there's instability there is violence and US troops tend to follow to stabilize regions. The impacts of these cuts will be felt for years if not restored.
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u/cloud_watcher May 08 '25
They were also helping stamp out drug-resistant TB before it spread. It's not just stopping the diseases in those countries, which is reason enough, but it's to contain them and keep them from spreading.
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u/Agloe_Dreams May 08 '25
This. Drug-resistant TB could make covid-19 look like a cough if it spreads worldwide. Even if you have no morals, stopping it would save the US money.
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u/koi-lotus-water-pond May 08 '25
There was a big push last year to stamp out TB in the next decade and now I fear that is lost.
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u/cloud_watcher May 08 '25
Yes, I think you're right. Defeat snatched out of the jaws of victory, thanks to Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
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u/LatrodectusGeometric May 08 '25
Until January of this year the US supplied 25% of the global funding for TB control.
It costs about 100,000 to treat every US TB case, including meds, doctor visits, infection prevention and control, contact tracing and case finding.
It’s much easier to help other countries find and control their TB where it’s cheaper before it even gets to the US.
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u/ArsErratia May 08 '25
The US recovers its entire 10-year contribution to Smallpox eradication every 27 days.
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u/MyGoodFriendJon California May 08 '25
We still have John Green helping to promote that fight against TB last night on The Daily Show, and he pointed out how the fight will take longer, but he was optimistic in it being eradicated in his lifetime, though. That being said, with the current political climate, it'll probably take a decade to get back to where we were last year.
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u/Only-Inspector-3782 May 08 '25
70% of Americans don't care, and either voted for Trump or didn't vote at all.
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u/H2shampoo May 08 '25
will lead to dead children
Will, are, and have already. Sudan immediately plunged into mass starvation after Musk and Trump stole congressionally allocated funds. Dead children is the entire goal.
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u/CT_Phipps-Author May 08 '25
It's an accusation but it's also true.
Like accusing Trump of being an idiot.
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u/Sad-Butterscotch-680 May 08 '25
That’s kind of the problem with evidence based, thoughtful approaches to problems
Yeah education costs money now, rehabilitation programs cost money now but the lost income potential later / consequences of not addressing problems proactively creates huge cost later
We aren’t going to see a lot of the effects trumps cuts will have until years down the line. The kids that receive a suboptimal education today aren’t going to make well-informed decisions when they enter decision-making positions.
We ought to be giving schools additional funding to train students how to use AI without compromising their critical thinking skills but at this point ChatGPT will probably offer next years students a better education answering all their questions at face value than 60-1 child to faculty public schools.
The competence of the next generation may well be entirely dependent on what level chatbot subscription they have
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u/Live-Possibility4126 May 08 '25
It's almost like planting a tree so your children can grow up with shade.
Fucking weird how that works, or maybe too many assholes don't get it.
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u/Rel_Ortal May 08 '25
"But I don't benefit from the shade, immediately, so it's not only pointless but detrimental to me, personally!"
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u/Rapzid Texas May 08 '25
“The picture of the world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children is not a pretty one,” he told the Financial Times.
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u/Ph0X May 08 '25
and that's 250 thousand people for only two diseases USAID was helping with. Not counting all the other stuff.
The total is probably much higher, half a million if not more. Musk has so much blood on his hand. Imagine single handedly being responsible for this much death.
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u/Juicethetangelo May 08 '25
He’s correct, many will die until China seizes the opportunity to step into the soft power vacuum. And then it’ll be China’s world that the rest of us just live in.
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u/Huge-Platypus9075 May 08 '25
If we look at World Child Mortality Rates YoY we will have a pretty good idea of how many children Cheeto Hitler & Swasticar Leiter have successfully deleted through their evil policies.
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u/kellysmom01 May 08 '25
And also how many are barely surviving. They will become angry, vengeful adults full of rage for the super power that could’ve thrown them a fucking bone.
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u/Huge-Platypus9075 May 08 '25
"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."
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u/TheeBiscuitMan May 08 '25
Low key George Bush's administration of compassionate conservatism saved 27,000,000 lives in Africa through USAID, the only arm of US foreign policy that didn't come with bombs or bullets. It put the generous and smiling face of America forward to the world.
And now it's gutted along with our international prestige.
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u/Agloe_Dreams May 08 '25
Seriously, USAID was W's single greatest achievement and it is a legitimate great thing. There's lots to not like about Bush but this is not one of them.
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u/Darmok47 May 08 '25
You're thinking of PEPFAR. That was all George W. Bush.
USAID was founded by JFK.
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u/a_rat_00 May 08 '25
Neoconservatism is a very different ideology from fascism as it pertains to foreign policy, even if they sit near each other on a political graph
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u/The-M0untain May 08 '25
A lot more people are going to be murdered by the Trump administration. This is just the beginning. Wait until people start dying of preventable diseases because the health secretary is an anti-vaxxer and the new Surgeon General is a quack.
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u/debrabuck May 08 '25
And as people get sick overseas from USAID cuts, those diseases make their way across the oceans to the US, increasing TB, AIDS and other very communicable illnesses.
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u/CaptainFeather May 08 '25
Wait until people start dying of preventable diseases
We're already there in Texas with measles. It's only going to get worse. Can you imagine if covid resurges with that chucklefuck in charge?
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u/EggPerfect7361 May 08 '25
And cancelling USAID it didn't even save that much. It's like we decided to save penny, but in this case penny was saving thousands of children.
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u/Pinklady777 May 08 '25
I read that the life-saving medicine for HIV positive people in Africa cost $0.12 a day. Literally pennies. And without it, people have already started dying because they don't have properly functioning immune systems. They truly cut it off with no warning. Didn't even give them a chance to find another source. Unbelievable cruelty.
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u/Alexis_Ohanion May 08 '25
Bill Gates is 100% correct in this situation. There have been a number of studies showing the effects of cutting USAID, and they all show large amount of preventable deaths.
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u/LastMuppetDethOnFilm May 08 '25
WELL WHAT ABOUT WHEN BILL GATES KILLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE BY [easily disproven lie about Bill Gates]
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u/Areshian May 08 '25
With 5g chips in vaccines. That was all Gates. He was literally injecting the chips into babies himself. I didn't die, and now my phone has amazing reception, so I don't complain too much
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u/designateddroner2 Minnesota May 08 '25
As much as we joke about Musk being the shadow president, the accountability for all this horror sits squarely on Stump's shoulders. Letting him off the hook is exactly what empowers him to do more.
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u/ImLikeReallySmart Pennsylvania May 08 '25
The Republican party as a whole, not just Trump. They have had ample opportunities to stop any of this, and have not only contentedly let it happen, but actively praise him any chance they get.
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u/JessieJ577 May 08 '25
It’s not an accusation. Elon signed their life away the moment he cut that funding. He has blood on his hands.
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u/Marmooset Ohio May 08 '25
I don't think the quote marks are necessary.
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u/Mavian23 May 08 '25
It is always funny to me when people forget that quotes can also be used as an actual quotation. They used quotes there because that is what he actually said. They aren't scare quotes.
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u/mylifeforthehorde May 08 '25
Except bill gates has done a lot of actual philanthropic work
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Yeah, as far as billionaires go at least Bill tries to make the world better instead of trying to run up the leaderboard by getting even richer
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u/grchelp2018 May 08 '25
One has to wonder if they have their own billionaire cliques.
There is a no class solidarity even among billionaires. They will happily eat their own.
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u/Minglu07 May 08 '25
I’m glad to see that Gates is starting to come out to public again (atleast in these major news things), he’s done a lot of good.
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u/zlafy May 08 '25
Issue is, the political organization enacting these policies don't have the mental capacity for Empathy.
To Elon, Bill might as well be saying "Tomorrow's Tuesday". Can't feel bad about your actions if you're incapable of feeling empathy.
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u/Sad_Pangolin7379 May 08 '25
He is entirely correct.
In addition to the absolute human tragedy that is letting babies get HIV from their mothers, toddlers painfully wasting away into skeletons before their poor hearts finally stop, and people in the prime of their life DYING from entirely preventable things like TB - it's also not going to help the population collapse Elon is so worried about. Yes, I know, these are largely not white people so maybe he really doesn't care but white people would have to have ten kids each to save the human race or whatever and that is simply not happening, you amoral sadistic jerk. Plus do you want resistant TB on our shores? It doesn't even make sense if you have no empathy.
Deep breath....
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u/_Uber_Otter_ May 08 '25
Republicans don't care about children after they're born.
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u/totallynotliamneeson May 08 '25
I know someone will chime in to say all billionaires are bad, but Gates and his ex-wife both have genuinely tried to use their wealth for helping others. If we are going to have billionaires, I'll take multiple Gates over a single Musk...
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u/demystifier May 08 '25
Because he did. It was food and medical aid for desperate people in war torn places. There were no alternatives. Tens of thousands of kids have died without that aid.
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u/Rapzid Texas May 08 '25
The picture of the world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children is not a pretty one
I was ready to blast the headlines because Bill never directly laid the blame on Musk.
But, he totally directly attributed it to Musk. Good on him.
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u/dontshitaboutotol May 08 '25
This headline is meant to sound outlandish but can't be any more accurate. It should be in all caps
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u/SippinPip May 08 '25
He’s not wrong. Elon did kill children with his cuts. Hell, he’d kill all of us if he thought he would profit.
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u/Queasy-General6306 May 08 '25
He doesn’t even like his own children, why would he care about anyone else
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u/Technical_Monitor_38 May 08 '25
Gates is absolutely correct. For someone who whines about population collapse as much as Musk does, Elon has absolutely no problem inflicting death and suffering. I grew up overseas in some very poor countries and US Aid was always there, building schools, hospitals, dams, roads. Trump and his cronies are too stupid and frankly racist, to appreciate how important ‘soft power’ is to the US. It was the fundamental reason the US was so respected around the world.
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u/tonguejack-a-shitbox May 08 '25
There is currently another top trending post about how Bill Gates is going to give away $200 Billion in the next 20 years because of Musk. So isn't this what we wanted? The government is going to stop using taxpayer money from the middle and lower class and a billionaire has stepped up to front his own money? How is this not a good thing?
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u/Old_Satisfaction_233 May 08 '25
Children , mothers , fathers… it matters not. Elon is a master of collateral damage.
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u/Abhoth52 May 09 '25
While it's Musk we blame, rightfully so, it's tRump who is responsible for this...
Do not forget where the buck stops.
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u/beamrider May 09 '25
There is an old morality test (pre-dates the internet, I believe): You are presented with a button. If pressed, you get a million dollars (probably needs to be ten million these days) and a random person you don't know dies. Do you press it?
People like Loser 47 and Muskolini don't just press the button. The sit on chairs with cushions lined with these buttons. They sleep soundly on mattresses covered with them. They line the floors of rooms with them and dance gleefully on them, while thinking of ways to make more buttons that can be pushed faster. And honestly believe that *everyone* would do exactly the same if given a chance.
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u/Thias_Thias May 09 '25
Yeah, and the thought makes Elmo horny, because he and his parents are SA Apartheid Nazi freaks worrying about 'white genocide', so death of mostly PoC children is a feature to him, not a bug.
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u/MartyMacGyver May 09 '25
The killing part needs no quotes. This is what Elon, trump, and the rest of the GOP are doing to kids, the needy, the sick, and everyone else they're cruelly denying benefits to.
Edit: he = Elon
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u/JonMWilkins Michigan May 09 '25
Bill Gates states fact that Elon Musk and Trump are killing children with USAID cuts
There, fixed that for you, no need to pay me.
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u/krichard-21 May 09 '25
This is no "accusation". This is simply a fact.
Cutting funding for children's food is as clear and direct as humanly possible.
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u/aradraugfea May 08 '25
Elon is anti kid, unless the kid belongs to a white billionaire, in which case he’s pro them existing, but against them having opinions… or being a woman.
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u/Ill-Fail-4240 May 08 '25
Be careful, Bill. He’ll accuse you of being a pedo… oh wait, he already did that, didn’t he?
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u/gdshaffe May 08 '25
Musk is doing his best to do for the right what right-wing fantasies have painted George Soros as doing for the left.
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u/Much_Kangaroo_6263 May 08 '25
It's the world's richest stealing from the world's poorest. It's disgusting.
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u/OnTheFenceGuy May 08 '25
Bill Gates did a lot of bad things to get his money.
He has also done a lot of incredible good with the money he stole.
It’s almost like humans are complicated.
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