r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Jun 20 '25
Paywall Americans Want to Force Presidents to Release Health Records After Trump’s Bonkers Golf Brag Memo. A poll also found that most voters want age limits on elected officials.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/americans-want-to-force-presidents-to-release-health-records-after-trumps-bonkers-golf-brag-memo/2.9k
u/VladtheInhaler999 Jun 20 '25
Jake Tapper, where are you bud. There is clearly makeup covering up large IV bruising on his hand. I don’t know how much more suspicious you can get.
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u/Critical-Path-5959 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
He has to be on a ton of anticoags considering the way he eats and his age. He's in for a major hemorrhage if he actually falls.
I don't see why he's stressing himself to death. If I were a complete sociopath like him I'd just pardon myself, resign, and just play golf as much as I wanted.
Edit: I have like a million notifications of people all saying that he's already doing it or that he isn't stressing out. Dude can't unilaterally do what he wants and does have limitations on how often he can fuck off. Presidency ages even terrible sociopaths because he's constantly being asked questions, having to work more than he has in his life all to chase a high he'll never get. He has no satisfaction from the job at all and it's hard for people like me to wrap their heads around it, but trust me, I understand why on a logical level.
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u/vicvonqueso Jun 20 '25
Because that's how a sociopath is. When they want something, rationality isn't going to get in the way. The goal becomes the only acceptable outcome
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u/Critical-Path-5959 Jun 20 '25
Yeah, I'll never be able to wrap my head around it. The more selfish route for him would be genuinely beneficial to everyone. I don't get why he doesn't just actually fuck off.
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u/GoNutsDK Jun 20 '25
Because of his frail ego. He's a massive narcissist and he cannot deal with losing or showing vulnerability. He needs to appear as if he is in control.
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u/Hikaru1024 Jun 20 '25
More properly he needs to think that's the way he appears to others.
Narcissists are very insecure people. For an example of how this can go, notice he's still blaming Biden constantly? Still bringing up the 2020 election?
It's because he lost, and he can't stand it. It's forever going to nag at him. It doesn't matter what other people think, what they believe - so long as he thinks people might believe he lost, he's going to keep bringing it up.
Running away from his job to do whatever he wants would be awesome for him - if only he didn't know what it'd look like to other people.
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u/oroborus68 Jun 20 '25
And have big strong men, with tears in their eyes,say "Sir please don't leave us" and then tell everyone that that is a real thing. Attention whore run amok. Amok amok amok.
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u/Critical_Alarm_535 Jun 20 '25
This fkin guy is gonna nuke Iran...
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u/InfiniteDelusion094 Jun 20 '25
MMW, he drops a nuke and even our allies will consider some sort of action against us just to stop him dropping more/normalizing dropping them. There's a good reason we haven't really used them in nearly 80 years, and it's a can of worms even other nuclear powers don't want to deal with. Nobody sane wants to be the ruler of a radioactive crater, and anyone who knows about nuclear war knows thats most likely what they'll be left with.
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u/kia75 Jun 20 '25
Trump doesn't keep his word and therefore doesn't believe others will keep their word. Even now he's accusing Biden's pardons of being fake!
As a result, Trump doesn't believe anyone would keep their word if he resigned, I.E. he deson't believe his VP wouldn't actually pardon him once Trump no longer has power and resigns, and\or that the next president (Either his former vp or a Democrat) would honor a pardon because Trump himself is trying to overturn Biden's pardons.
This is also why Trump is having so many problems making deals. Trump overturns any deal whenever it benefits him (i.e., overturning the USMCA despite Trump being the person who negotiated it) and believes everyone else will do the same. As a result nobody trusts Trump will keep his word for a future payoff and thus any deal is subject to Trump's whims.
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u/Pressure_Chief Jun 20 '25
Or flee to Russia and play golf there while claiming he’s a president in exile to rile up his base and funnel more money to him.
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u/KrazyK05 Jun 20 '25
Because he's a terrible businessman. He could've raked in cash during covid with MAGA masks, claiming only his MAGA masks blocked corona virus and his rube base would've cleared out stock everywhere, but no he's too stupid to do that.
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u/Useless Jun 20 '25
He could have released MAGA ivermectin which wink wink isn’t approved for covid treatment or human use and they would guzzle it.
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u/Nambsul Jun 20 '25
“MAGAmectin, now at the low low price of $49.99, much easier than injecting bleach”
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u/peachy175 Jun 20 '25
THIS - he coulda made an ACTUAL fortune, and done some good. I think that may have something to do with why it didn't happen...
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u/dantheman0991 Jun 20 '25
His handlers thrive on the instability of America. He has become chaos incarnate, and that's exactly what his owners want.
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u/Ali_Cat222 Jun 20 '25
Well, this happened his first time around- "Trump reported making more than $1.6 billion while president"
And he's made way too much on sales of everything from bibles to this wall fish "trumpy trout" that I hope torments anyone who bought it for life 🤣
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u/Zelcron Jun 20 '25
For the low price of $29.99* you can let Freedom RINGand bring the TURE president hom!
*Recurring weekly
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u/Not_Cleaver District Of Columbia Jun 20 '25
He’d have to do it on an official visit. And even still I’s give low odds that it would be successful.
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u/calvinwho Jun 20 '25
I secretly hope that there are at least two of his ss detail that slipped through vetting and will manhandle his ass on a plane back to the states should he try this shit
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter Jun 20 '25
Usually the Secret Service prefers to be referred to as the USSS, but in this case SS is more appropriate.
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u/GoodDog_GoodBook123 Jun 20 '25
That bruise looks exactly like when my grandfather was on blood thinners for congestive heart failure. His skin became so thin it tore when one of his nephews shook his hand too hard.
The real difference, of course, is my grandfather bravely fought against Nazi, loved and was loved by his children and grandchildren, was all of his many nieces and nephews favorite uncle, made a mean pumpkin pie, paid his taxes, donated to charity, and generally lived an exemplary life going from one of ten children in a starving family during the the Great Depression to a comfortably retired man with his bills paid and a nice nest egg to leave behind. So the anti-Trump, if you will.
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u/Fr0gm4n Jun 21 '25
Your grandpa sounds like a solid dude! I'm glad you got to have him in your life.
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u/philodendrin Jun 20 '25
Because he is greedy. It will never be enough, no matter the amount of money, influence, accolades, or devotion. He is Greed at his core - he is trying to fill a hole in heart/mind that can't be filled. And we are all busy (and tired) of filling it. Some just haven't realized that it's thankless and constant work.
In the end, his grave will be a place of ridicule, not inspiration.
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u/Shot_Help7458 Jun 20 '25
Can hardly wait to see that!
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u/philodendrin Jun 20 '25
The National Debt could be solved by charging admission to pee at his resting place.
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u/rosendorn Jun 20 '25
"Trump's gravesite is sure to become that state's #1 tourist attraction, and probably also #2."
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u/GiftToTheUniverse Jun 20 '25
If he wasn't handed everything he would just be another episode of Hoarders.
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u/Ande64 Iowa Jun 20 '25
But see, that's the problem. He's not like you or me. Most normal human beings if they were Filthy Rich would help lots of other people and retire and have a fun life. He's not a normal human being. If Trump had to retire tomorrow and just play golf he would literally die. His whole life line is adulation from other people. It's the only thing that keeps him going. He cares about nothing else on this planet except that people think he's the greatest thing ever. So he's constantly seeking that adoration and the problem is you can't get in a much higher position in life than he has gotten into and it's still not enough. Isn't that sad? He's been the president of the United States twice and it's still not taking care of that internal thing that says he's not good enough. Well, as we all know, there isn't much more you can get to be beyond the president of the United States so he's forever going to be chasing that high at all of our expense.
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u/Then_Journalist_317 Jun 20 '25
"During what remains the most-watched Oscars telecast ever, with over 55 million viewers, [Director James ] Cameron took the podium three times to deliver speeches for "Titanic," which in total took home 11 golden statuettes.
Cameron was announced as best director toward the end of the ceremony, and in his last speech of the night, he decided to quote the line his leading man Leonardo DiCaprio's Jack shouts from the prow of the titular ship: "I'm the king of the world!" https://www.businessinsider.com/james-cameron-reflects-king-of-the-world-titanic-oscars-speech-2023-3#:~:text=Cameron%20was%20announced%20as%20best,the%20king%20of%20the%20world!%22
Somehow I suspect that Extreme Narcissist Taco Don wishes to make a similar speech, but in his mind he would actually be the King of the World.
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u/VoyagerCSL California Jun 20 '25
Cameron has always gotten unwarranted shit for saying that. He's literally parroting his character in his movie, who declares "I'm the king of the world!" because he feels like a million bucks in that moment.
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u/burritosandbooze Jun 20 '25
I don’t think that normal, well-adjusted people really have it in them to become that rich to begin with. You have to screw over a lot of folks.
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u/RosieDear Jun 20 '25
He inherited it - and, in fact, lost money his whole life. If he put his inheritance in the stock market he'd have 20 Billion.
He never "became" rich. It fell from the sky, so to speak...and he blew it.
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u/jt32470 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
That is what verbal abuse does to a kid
His father was a piece of work
Drove Drumpf's brother to suicide by drinking.
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u/arthurdentxxxxii Jun 20 '25
He wants to hold onto his presidential immunity as long as possible, because if he can’t run out the clock on his court cases, they will start holding him accountable. That was one of the main reasons he wanted to win the presidency again the second time.
Of course, it’s also the world‘s most massive ego trip for the biggest sociopath on the planet, and a position that he can use to enrich himself far beyond what he’s been able to do in the past.
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u/pinetreesgreen Jun 20 '25
He's grifting hundreds of millions. Of course he's not going to resign. He's a dragon sitting on his horde. You are thinking like a normal functioning person.
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u/cal_ness Jun 20 '25
That’s what I don’t get with these chodes. Like I love my parents but even they’re guilty of it. I really hope I plan ahead enough (working on it diligently) so when I get toward the twilight, I can do the equivalent of golf (because I’d rather eat cardboard than play golf) with what time I have left
Why the fuck would you want to be prez at that age? Totally mysterious, but mayhap im just a diff breed
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u/Phog_of_War Jun 20 '25
The cashier I see every morning at the local gas station asked me why I look at the headlines of the paper but never buy one. I told him I'm waiting for an obituary. He laughed and said that the front page doesn't do obituaries. I told him the one I'm waiting for will be.
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u/Demonofthedark1313 Jun 20 '25
The OG post of this has the poster visiting a russian newstand.
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u/HabeusCuppus Jun 20 '25
the OG version of this joke isn't a post because it's older than the internet.
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u/Morgannin09 Jun 20 '25
He's not experiencing any stress because he has no sense of shame or guilt. The type of persecution complex a narcissist like him has makes all his performative outrage a cathartic reaction to his feeling that the world is jealous of his success. He's the most powerful man in the world and he never wants to be less than that again. The "quiet life" you're suggesting would be devastating to his ego.
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u/Mirthlesscartwheel Jun 20 '25
Kompromat is my guess. Putin wants him where he is. And probably Netanyahu too.
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u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn Jun 20 '25
Being on anticoagulants doesn’t cause repetitive random bruising of your hands. But getting a regular IV placed there while on anticoagulants can certainly do it.
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u/Critical-Path-5959 Jun 20 '25
... Yeah, that's what I'm implying. Because getting regular IVs don't cause bruising every single time on their own either.
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u/Confident_Fun_6381 Jun 20 '25
He can't help himself. He has to always "win." And winning for him right now is proving to the world that he's better than Biden. He can't fucking let it go.
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u/quillmartin88 Jun 20 '25
Given how projection seems to work with the Trump Regime, the focus on Biden's brain being cooked chili should be taken as evidence that everyone in DC knows - and is seriously freaked out about - the molten slag between Chump's ears.
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u/Tenthul Jun 20 '25
Yeah it's basically just theatre so they can say "but Biden..." when something inevitably happens.
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u/HarlequinWasTaken Jun 20 '25
I've had this argument with people I know already. Trump basically sundowning at the G7 and having to leave early, the trip up the stairs, the constant verbal flubs. It's all shit that people pointed to when Biden was running shit to say how he was losing it, but somehow it's fine for Trump, because didn't you read Tapper's book about how bad Biden actually was??
They don't care that if that information were accurate, it should have been released DURING Biden's presidency when it was relevant. They don't care that the same is likely true of Trump, that he is probably so much worse than the limited view we're allowed to see. They don't care that Biden's misspeaking was largely always present due to speech impediments, and that even on his "worst" days he was still far more capable and aware than Trump is on his best.
They only care that they have a "whataboutism" for a person who isn't even the US president anymore, to throw in your face as though it somehow justifies anything. "Well, you had a dementia riddled president, so now WE get one!"
Arguing with these people is pointless because they do so in bad faith, and don't believe in the meaning of words. They will say anything, betray any ideal, if it keeps their opponents off balance long enough to attack them.
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u/metallipunk Washington Jun 20 '25
He's already answered this on C-SPAN. Jake Tapper is an asshole and is just grifting now. Fuck him..
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u/No_Car3453 Jun 20 '25
Jake Tapper has ALWAYS been an asshole grifter. The literal only reason we know who he is is because he went on a date with Monica Lewinsky in the 90s and wrote an article about her when the Clinton scandal broke
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u/AntoniaFauci Jun 21 '25
Indeed, I guess I’m glad people are finally starting to realize what some of us have been warning about. He looks the part, but is a true asshole and sloppy journalist at best.
He’s basically a fiction writer, and no, I’m not referencing his dishonest reporting. I mean he literally writes and sells crappy novels most of the time. The afternoon show is like his side hustle.
He also uses his fake CNN image as a way to become co-author of books. And he exploited same to give his daughter a book deal for what was essentially an embellished diary.
This Biden book has been his biggest stain. It’s largely salacious and false gossip and a vehicle to make money from conservatives. He should be ashamed but he does not appear to have that character element.
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u/TrickiestToast Jun 20 '25
Love that he compared Biden’s age to the war in Iraq while completely ignoring trump lying his way into war with Iran
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u/MillionMilesPerHour Jun 20 '25
“That could be anything. It is inappropriate to comments on his health without knowing more. Did you see how incoherent Biden was? Something is definitely medically wrong with him.” - Tapper, probably
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u/voodoodahl Jun 20 '25
People still don't get it. Jake Tapper and all of his MSM ilk are working for the fascists. He has zero credibility. None of them do.
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u/Due-Egg4743 Jun 20 '25
Tapper's such a clown. He's already on the Bill O'Reilly path of peddling books. He's also trying to be the next Tom Clancy.
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u/toriemm Jun 20 '25
Jake Tapper, who spent an entire book to tell us that the 81yo president was fucking old??
We knew that.
Also, Jake Tapper can't do anything about it.
There are 525 members of Congress, and 16 people in his cabinet+VP who can invoke the 25th amendment.
He was impeached twice. We have THREE different examples that we KNOW of that he tried to interfere in the 2020 election.
Half the shit he's doing is illegal, and the other half is nonsense and grifting.
There were safeguards built in to our constitution, and we are being failed by almost all of them right now.
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u/GearTwunk Jun 20 '25
In April, the White House released a memo from Trump’s physician, Sean Barbabella, claiming the president is in “excellent cognitive and physical health,” with the memo also bizarrely highlighting his “frequent victories in golf events.” It also claimed he’s 6 feet 3 inches tall and weighs 224 pounds.
lol. lmao, even.
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u/Altruistic-Coyote868 Canada Jun 20 '25
If they're going to use a fake weight and height, at least make it believable. I'm 6' 185lbs and he's gotta be at least 75-100 lbs more than me.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 California Jun 20 '25
They gave him NFL pro athlete specs
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u/Galappie Jun 20 '25
It would make him an inch taller and a pound lighter than Patrick mahomes. Hell even in full gear trump still weighs more I guarantee it. I’ve seen him with his overflowing muffintop in his golf shirt.
Anyone who genuinely believes Donald Trump is 6’3” and 224lbs has consumed so much propaganda it’s insane.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 California Jun 20 '25
DK metcalf is 6’4” 229. No way those two have a similar build
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u/briman2021 Jun 21 '25
Also, even with the “muscle is more dense than fat” argument, I want whatever you’re smoking if you think trumps stats are legit.
I’m 6’3” and slightly (significantly) less muscular than Metcalf, I weigh about 235-240 and I look like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger compared to trump.
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u/007_Monkey Jun 20 '25
Kaepernick is 6’4 229#, I love pointing that out because it pisses them off on multiple levels 😂
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u/runliftcount Jun 20 '25
I remember some old commercial Peyton Manning did where he said he's 6'5" and 230 lbs (also a laser rocket arm).
Ain't no way Ol' Yamtits is only 2 inches shorter than Manning, or anywhere within 50 lbs of him.
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u/punkindle Jun 20 '25
I'm 6'1 and 220 and I he looks nothing like me. At least 275, I would bet.
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u/jwuer Jun 20 '25
He's well more than 275, 6 months ago I was 5'10 260 and I look nothing like him. He is well over 300.
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u/outdatedboat Jun 20 '25
He's absolutely well over 300.
I'm 6'1" and I've had my weight fluctuate like mad. As an adult, I've weighed as little as 174, and as much as 281.
Like you, I'm around 220 right now. And I look like I'm anorexic compared to Trump. Even at my biggest of 281, I was significantly less fat than trump. Ain't no way anyone could argue "you just carry the weight differently" because, yeah, everyone does. But not to that extreme.
Plus, he lives on diet coke, and McDonald's (and probably plenty of stimulants. Which makes him being so fat even more impressive)
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u/UnquestionabIe Jun 20 '25
Yeah that's about my build as well and the fascist fuck looks absolutely nothing like me.
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u/NATO_Will_Prevail Jun 20 '25
6'3 220 and I look good. If he's actually 6'3 he's pushing 280.. maybe 260 cause he has no muscle.
I doubt he's 6'3 though..
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u/RechargedFrenchman Canada Jun 20 '25
He's maybe like 6 foot even and still probably 250+
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u/SDRPGLVR California Jun 20 '25
I'm 6'1 and ~250 and don't look nearly as hambeastly as him. I think he's easily pushing 3-hundo.
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u/ph1shstyx Jun 20 '25
He's at least 300, probably closer to 325 just looking at him.
Granted he does appear to have very low muscle mass, but even then, he's quite round. When I graduated college I was 6'3.5" and 230 and looked nothing like him.
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u/PassiveMenis88M Massachusetts Jun 20 '25
I'm 6'2 and 245. That fat tub of fuck is 350lbs.
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u/JayR_97 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
He's so incredibly insecure it's just kinda sad
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u/Brcomic New York Jun 20 '25
Kinda?
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u/EmployeeScary1369 Jun 20 '25
Every fat conservative is. My bitch as uncle is just like trump in so many ways. I bring up him being 400 pounds and he loses it lol
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u/JayR_97 Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
Its just so frustrating that they'd rather spend their time making everyone elses lives miserable instead of just talking to a therapist
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u/time_drifter Jun 20 '25
Here are some other well known men with those same stats:
Larry Fitzgerald 6’3” - 218 lb
Lamar Jackson 6’2” - 212 lb
Donovan Mitchell 6’3” - 220 lb
Anthony Edwards 6’4” - 225 lb
Juan Soto 6’2” - 224 lb
When Trump claims he is 6’3” and 224 lbs, it’s not just a little fudging of the numbers. He wants you to believe he has the same body mass as some of the best professional athletes in the United States. I’m not a betting man, but I’d wager my house on Lamar doing a weigh in with Donnie Two Scoops.
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u/Recent-Ad-5493 Jun 20 '25
Dude, I would wager EVERY single cent that exists on this planet and the rights to mine materials from any other planets that exist on Lamar in that case.
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u/Ghune Jun 20 '25
Not as good as the official biography of Kim Jong-Il.
In 1994, the very first time he played golf, Kim Jong-Il dominated the 7,700-yard Pyongyang Golf Course. He shot an unimaginable 38-under par, recording no worse than a birdie at the country's lone golf course. His round included 11 holes-in-one, and the feat was verified by 17 bodyguards who were present.
Come on Don, you can do better.
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u/specqq Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
If you’re already lyao I’m a bit scared of what’s going to happen when I tell you that’s 15 pounds less than he reported in his first term.
And just wait until you see the pictures of him standing next to people who are actually 6’3”
Or even 6’2”
Or 6’1”
All with lifts in his shoes...
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u/ABob71 Canada Jun 20 '25
"...full head of hair. "
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u/R2-D2Vandelay I voted Jun 20 '25
"Shlong bigger than Hunter's!"
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u/4evercurioso Jun 20 '25
He is surrounded by bogus doctors who should not be practicing medicine and lawyers who need to be disbarred.
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u/StoreSearcher1234 Jun 20 '25
It also claimed he’s 6 feet 3 inches tall and weighs 224 pounds.
I'm 6'2, 225lbs with a 38 inch waist.
Trump looks nothing like me.
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u/arachnophilia Jun 20 '25
same, all around.
though i'm down to about 200 now. he didn't even look like me when i was 240+.
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u/Booklet-of-Wisdom Jun 20 '25
lol, I'm 5'5" and weight almost 190, I look WAY skinnier than him! To be fair, I walk all day at work, so I probably have a lot more muscle mass.
He does "win" all of his golf tournaments, though, so what do I know?
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u/DataDude00 Jun 20 '25
I am 6'3 and 250 pounds and I look like a toothpick compared to Trump (and I need to lose weight)
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u/Global_Crew3968 Jun 20 '25
I am 6'3 and 242lbs as of yesterday. There is no similarity between my body and the body of donald trump. I'm not even all that fit - i work out but i also drink too much so i have the spare tire -but Trump is easily 50lbs heavier than i am, and probably 2 inches shorter, minimum.
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u/moonwalkerfilms Jun 20 '25
I'm 6'3" and weigh 185, and I am rail thin. Trump is easily 260+
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u/Derka_Derper Jun 20 '25
Bro, I'm 6'1" and if I weighed 224 I'd still look like I did 15 years ago in the Army in Afghanistan and not the fat desk jockey I am now.
Dude's easily putting a 300 on the scale.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 California Jun 20 '25
He’s not even close to having the body of a starting NFL wide receiver.
By comparison, DK Metcalf of the Pittsburgh Steelers is officially listed at 6’ 4”, 229
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u/800oz_gorilla Jun 20 '25
The diaper makes him look a lot fatter than he actually is.
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u/dereksalem Jun 20 '25
I'm 6'3" and a bit over 200lbs and I look thin. Even if I had virtually no muscle and it was all fat I would still look thin. It's not a directly linear weight-to-height, which is why someone that's the same ratio but 5'2" would look above-average weight.
I have friends that are 6'5" and ~260 that still look about half the thickness of Trump.
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u/Then_Journalist_317 Jun 20 '25
Barbabella "doctored" the height-weight so that Dictator Donald would not be classified as "Morbidly Obese", which he is.
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u/Neither_Ad5039 Jun 20 '25
Well, yes. But we ought to hold presidents to an even higher standard of honesty since doctors can only kill one person at a time and Trump can wipe us all from existence
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u/ImWearingYourHats Jun 21 '25
Lying about the president’s health should be a major felony. It’s lying to the entire country in a way that could jeopardize the lives of its population. If they say not signs of mental decline, and that decline leads to impulsive behavior that leads to a war .. like who else could have possibly warned us and saved the military from that.
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u/AgainstSpace Jun 20 '25
Don't they have licenses issued by a board that would normally take a dim view of a physician just making shit up?
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u/Ouaouaron Jun 20 '25
Trump's physician is a career military doctor, and they have a medical board that is probably separate from the civilian medical boards.
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u/becauseTexas Texas Jun 20 '25
My experience with medical boards is that they cover for their own and will rarely lay down such harsh punishments on physicians. It's really only MASSIVE mess ups, or really really high profile deaths
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u/wrhnj Jun 20 '25
Dear leader shot a club record 18 last month.
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u/NastyToeFungus Jun 20 '25
He sank all 18 holes in one shot.
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u/Senior-Ad8656 Jun 20 '25
18 on one hole, 1 on 18 holes, what’s the difference really?
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u/DistractedPhoenix Jun 20 '25
Shot an 18 over 72 holes. He’s so good at golf he hits the ball once and it jumps into three cups across 1,000 yards
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u/NoDontDoThatCanada Jun 20 '25
He shot an 18 year old? Like how Cheney shot that lawyer? That's more believable.
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u/Rude-Strawberry-6360 Jun 20 '25
People have to get involved and actually vote in order to get their objectives achieved. If wishes were fishes we'd all dine fat. Instead barely half of the folks vote, and almost nobody votes in the primaries.
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u/Mindless_Listen7622 Washington Jun 20 '25
Voter suppression is the reason that election day isn't a national holiday. It's also why Republicans want to eliminate early voting, mail in voting, mandatory voting and anything that makes voting easier.
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u/Rude-Strawberry-6360 Jun 20 '25
Voter suppression has to be fought. Ironically with voting.
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u/nakedonmygoat Jun 20 '25
But early voting isn't illegal yet. Where I live, one can go to any polling place, early voting started at 7am, and it was 7 days a week for two weeks. I'm deeply skeptical that anyone not in a coma can't find some way to get out there and vote. And I'm not even in a blue state.
While I agree that election day should be a national holiday, that's not the reason people don't vote. Apathy is the reason. You could send those apathetic losers a gold-plated invitation and send a limo around for them, and they still wouldn't bother.
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u/bgrueyw Jun 21 '25
About 93% of Americans live in a state that offers at least 7 days of early voting, and only about 3% of the country live in states that does not offer early voting or excuse is required. So shame on Mississippi, Alabama and New Hampshire; and other states can do better in early voting offering, but in general a vast majority of Americans have had the option to vote early.
Here is the criteria the site I used for this info has:
Almost all states offer some form of early voting, but the length of the early voting period varies by state. Our scoring includes states that offer “in-person absentee voting,” which is a process by which a voter completes an absentee ballot at a polling place. States that offer in-person absentee voting but require an “excuse” to vote absentee have been scored 0. Hours and locations may vary by county. These laws are applicable to general elections only.
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u/myorgsite1 Jun 20 '25
So true. Vote records here are pathetic
The saying I like is slightly more crude and cynical: Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
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u/accountabilitycounts America Jun 20 '25
Frustrating, isn't it? I know a couple of people who went to the No Kings protests, who also say voting doesn't matter.
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u/superbelt Pennsylvania Jun 20 '25
If most voters want age limits, why do they keep nominating and electing elderly politicians?
We have the power to tell them no.
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u/PennysWorthOfTea Jun 20 '25
You're assuming that the USA is a functional, representative democracy with equal voting rights when, in fact, we live in a country with gerrymandering, lobbyists, active voter disenfranchisement/suppression, & the electoral college.
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u/StoreSearcher1234 Jun 20 '25
why do they keep nominating and electing elderly politicians?
Because the people who actually turn up and vote are also old.
Young people don't vote in any meaningful way.
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u/superbelt Pennsylvania Jun 20 '25
Then the people who actually care to vote are getting who they want. We can't complain if we don't turn out every election.
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u/Oceanbreeze871 California Jun 20 '25
The people have a right to know if their elected leaders are in poor health or not mentally fit.
The working class also has a right to have leaders from their own adjacent generation who understands current issues, not retirees who don’t fully understand the modern world.
Politics shouldn’t predominantly be a retirement gig for the wealthy.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Jun 20 '25
The guy conservatives hold as the great American manly man refuses to play at any golf tournament that he doesn't hold himself at his own clubs.
He hosts 3 day tournaments, then shows up halfway throug day three, declares that he would be in first place if he had played, cheats through the last couple holes, then declares himself the winner.
He then makes his staff throw him a party and give him a trophy, and brags about it.
He's a sad, sad old man, living his life like a 5 year old at his birthday party where everyone has to pretend the world's fucking worst kid is wonderful.
This is what conservatives consider manliness.
Fucking pathetic.
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u/williamgman California Jun 20 '25
Both options would be ruled un constitutional by most SCOTUS... Especially this one. The time for action was at the voting booth. Americans shit the bed on this one. Until we replace that stained mattress... Gonna be in shit.
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u/the_Russian_Five Jun 20 '25
They would be correct on both counts. The health records are debatable. Congress could potentially see health records under it's oversight powers. But if the Constitution is interpreted to have a right to privacy for medical records, it would be a hard hurdle to overcome. And past SCOTUS have ruled that because of how the qualifications are laid out in the Constitution, additional limits can't be set on them without an amendment.
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u/Shopping_General Jun 20 '25
Didn't we give up on privacy for medical records when Roe v. Wade was overturned? I thought that was the whole legal president behind it was privacy of medical records.
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u/the_Russian_Five Jun 20 '25
That chain goes the other way. Personal medical privacy was used as part of the original Roe argument and decision. But that was a policy derived from an earlier case, Griswold v Connecticut affirmed medical privacy in protecting a right to contraception.
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u/AdventurousLet548 Jun 20 '25
Let's go back to the Jack Smith DOJ reports on Trump as the investigation was already done, and they were ready to indict. Be careful what you wish for.
Do I have faith in Bondi? Absolutely not. She is a horrible Attorney General and just does what Trump wants.
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u/fredout1968 Jun 20 '25
What people do not understand and should be furious about is that our elected officials do not care about what the majority of Americans want. It has no bearing on what the way they vote. They are very concerned about what their corporate donors want, but could care less about the majority...
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u/yParticle Jun 20 '25
Age limits, term limits, all of those are usually straw men for the people you're actually wanting to get rid of today. And the people trying to disenfranchise voters love amplifying such calls because they take away our choice.
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u/dasteez Jun 20 '25
Yep, I used to support these since they sound great in theory but once you dig into who supports them it gets murky. I know the last city I lived in got shot in the ass cause our state passed term limits (pushed by GOP) which then term limited an extremely popular Mayor in the next election, who I have no doubt would have won again and may even still be mayor now 10 years later.
That said, something needs tk be done about SCOTUS - lifetime appointments is insanity, especially for non-elected but highly important positions. It’s crazy that those appointments are basically the luck of the draw on who dies during who’s presidency. Huge flaw of our system.
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u/ballskindrapes Jun 20 '25
So fit he drive one ball, and it landed in every hole, bouncing from one to another. Then the ball put on a maga hat.
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u/NotYourTypicalMoth Jun 20 '25
Instead of a Daily Beast article, why not directly link the Axios poll and article? I thought the link was broken because I had to scroll down to the 7th story just to read the story. Of course, that’s assuming Redditors actually read the articles they’re commenting on.
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u/flux_of_grey_kittens California Jun 20 '25
Also how about you can’t be president if you have any felonies or tried to overthrow a free and fair election?
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u/SS1989 California Jun 20 '25
The same dumbass voters who allowed him to become president twice?
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u/Bluerecyclecan Virginia Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25
Age AND term limits.
And while we are at it, cut their lifetime healthcare. Give it to them while they’re in office and once out, no more tax payer funded healthcare.
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u/gotridofsubs Jun 20 '25
Age AND term limits
Both of these are solved by primary and general election voting. If enough people actually want change, change will occur.
This also makes a constantly revolving group of lawmakers MORE susceptible to lobbyist influence since those lobbyists will be the most experienced and equipped to create and pass legislation.
And while we are at it, cut their lifetime healthcare. Give it to them while they’re in office and once out, no more tax payer funded healthcare.
Would this not just encourage them to stay in office longer to not lose the coverage? Or minimum make sure after their terms they move into another position immediately so theres no gaps? This would probably have the opposite effect thats intended.
There are much easier ways to achieve what you want that are already available, voters just have to show it what they want.
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u/pj7140 Jun 20 '25
Anyone with at least 1 functioning synapse and good eyesight knows that his doctors are outright lying. Trump looks like he is ready to kick-it any day.
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u/Princess_BoujeeBling Jun 20 '25
And REQUIRED release of tax returns. An honor system doesn’t work for the morally bankrupt which is apparently who some believe is fit for office now
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u/krahzee2021 Jun 20 '25
While we are at it, I want the last 10 years of tax returns and financial statements for any candidate who makes it out of the primaries to the general election.
If you want my vote I want to know what stocks you own, who is paying you and who you owe money to.
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u/BaseUnited4523 Jun 21 '25
White House physicians need to be board-certified, approved by the Senate, and most of all apolitical.
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u/Clownsinmypantz Jun 20 '25
I'm OOTL can someone fill me in on the bonkers golf brag memo
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u/freedomandbiscuits Jun 21 '25
Most voters also want to ban elected officials from trading stocks yet here we are. There are a lot of things the majority of voters don’t seem to get much traction for.
Almost seems like taxation without representation.
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u/WildWayneRoy Jun 20 '25
Funny how Musk is 6’-4” and looks like he is 3”-6” taller than Trump. 225 lbs. my ass!
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u/count_chocul4 Jun 20 '25
We also want Non-Felons. We also want competence. We also want tax returns, and banning insider trading. We want politicians who do their jobs instead of making money from their office and names. We want accountability.
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u/Dedb4dawn Jun 20 '25
Age limits, actual cognitive tests before even being allowed to take office and minimum qualifications for offices/secretarial posts. The secretary of health needs to have a medical qualification. Secretary of education, a teaching degree. Etc.
You cannot effectively run a department that you have no intrinsic knowledge of.
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u/hoppyfrog Jun 21 '25
Age limits???
To get into Graduate School you have to take the GRE. Something similar should be devised for the higher levels of Government.
Also most Corporations have you sit through yearly Ethics' trainings.
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u/Jokong Jun 20 '25
My version of the American dream is working less. Why are we more productive than ever and working the same amount?
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u/MyGardenOfPlants Jun 20 '25
because your employers american dream is becoming infinitely rich.
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u/Spell_Chicken Jun 20 '25
With the somewhat recent accusation of Biden dying and having a clone stand-in, I wonder how far we really are from a Weekend at Bernie's situation with Trump.
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u/RVA-neighbor Jun 20 '25
Clearly they also want gender limits because twice now they’ve elected POSOTUS over a more qualified, younger, woman.
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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ Jun 20 '25
I'm not sure what planet Trump weighs 224 pounds on but it's not in Earth gravity.
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u/llywelync Jun 20 '25
Agreed to both, let's throw in an ability for citizens to demand a reelection by majority vote as well for all governmental offices. Oh, and term limits on the Supreme Court, too.
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u/-eOIOe- Jun 20 '25
Who cares about the IV marks. The man wears a fucking diaper and shits his pants alllll day. I am only finding out about this now and it’s fucking ridiculous. He has staffers that just wipe shit off of him. And he stinks like shit at all times hahaha. How am I only finding out about this now. Apparently he has been like this for like 20 years
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u/bakefly Jun 20 '25
I want to see the Jeffrey Epstein files released so we can see how many 13 year old girls trump molested.
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u/cannibalgravybrigade Jun 20 '25
If anyone actually thinks a person anywhere from 60-80 years of age knows what the majority of American citizens want they are, quite frankly, very stupid. The priorities have changed. Younger folks don't have healthcare, or very little to any job benefits for that matter. No retirement plan. Living paycheck to paycheck regardless of income. The entire idea of "work hard, and then we will take care of you" ideal is gone. The minimum wage is massively atrocious. Instead, the people running our country are living comfortable lives and can't grasp that the whole "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" concept is flawed and is slowly establishing a permanent working class. I'm really glad I don't have children, because, fuck...
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u/bofh000 Jun 20 '25
Yes please, make it 60 max for any candidate. If they’re past 60 they shouldn’t be allowed to run anymore, even as a second mandate.
And yes, universal suffrage is the way, obviously, but I think high officials should have a demonstrable career in which they’ve used their higher education. Enough with the actors and the reality tv parasites. Oh, and “businessman” isn’t a career. Not is to have floundered from one fraudulent scheme to another.
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u/DevGin Jun 21 '25
Release false health records. America, we already elected this POS. The health records would have been nice years ago. Along with his tax records.
That being said, we 100% knew he was a crook, rapist, sick racket and we still elected him.
Health records…. Democrats need to start talking like republicans.
Let me start, “He will be tried for treason when we are elected and control the government. We will pursue the death penalty for all those who were treasonous during his tenure.”
“This is not a joke, those that are involved with treason, will be caught and tried through the democratic led justice department. We are not playing any more games.”
Get some guts. They say this shit about you. Push back. Be a God Damn leader for Christ sake.
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u/OMGitisCrabMan Jun 21 '25
This guy's brain hasn't been functioning properly since at least 2016. There are better things to attack him on, like how he sent a violent mob to the capitol to attack police officers and put them in the hospital, and then pardoned every violent criminal involved.
Or how he's accusing Hispanic men of vague violent crimes, and using that as justification to send them to foreign prisons without proving that they actually committed any violence.
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u/StopLookListenNow Jun 21 '25
And TERM LIMITS and a law that prevents lawmakers from investing in single company stocks. Yeah, I am looking at you Nancy Pelosi.
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u/Be-skeptical Jun 20 '25
As we live longer having age limits will come back to bite us in the ass. Anyway it skirts the issue. It’s not the age that matters, it’s their health and competence.
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u/TurboSalsa Texas Jun 20 '25
Are we living longer? Last I saw life expectancy in the US was declining, and kicking a bunch of people of Medicaid isn't going to help that.
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u/imoldgreige Jun 20 '25
This. Bernie is 83 and is way more competent than the entire executive branch combined. Not that that takes much, but still.
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u/BiggerDamnederHeroer Jun 20 '25
Bernie hasn't been lying his whole life. The cognitive load carried by so many lies, and the flexibility of relative reality cause significant impairment
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