r/politics • u/Zen1 Oregon • Jul 12 '25

Paywall ICE officers doxxed by antifa, anarchists in Portland, Noem says

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/07/ice-officers-doxxed-by-antifa-anarchists-in-portland-dhs-says.html
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u/PillowPrincess314 Jul 12 '25

They are public servants being funded by taxpayer dollars. The people have the right to know who is in their employ.

If they aren't doing anything wrong, why are they worried?

If they can't hold their heads high and proudly announce their professions, they need to seek a new career.

These are not undercover officers, secret agents, CIA, whatever. They should not be hiding their faces and people being arrested by them should be able to know their accusers.

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u/Long-Researcher777 Jul 12 '25

Exactly, they can't actually be doxxed because their identites should be public anyway 

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u/Contagious_Zombie Jul 12 '25

It’s also not doxxing unless anyone that gives out their name is considered doxxing. Now if they list their home addresses, personal vehicle plates and family members names then that’s doxxing. The people just want them to have identification such as a name tag and a badge number just like the police.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

To be fair, the photo shows their address. That part is don't agree with. But their name and face? Shouldn't be hidden.

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u/lolligasm California Jul 12 '25

Why not give their addresses? Why should they get to feel safe? Terrorizing people like they do.

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u/Nueraman1997 Jul 12 '25

I mean look I’m all for making nazis afraid to be nazis, but I do think we should be careful before we put innocents at risk, namely their kids. Once that information is out there we don’t have control over who responds. Best case scenario is targeted protests, worst case is some batshit accelerationist taking action and harming their families as well. It’s still true that most violence of that nature is perpetrated by the right, but things aren’t getting more stable around here, and unfortunately I foresee violence in general becoming more commonplace.

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u/lolligasm California Jul 12 '25

Oh no they would have to feel that same fear they put on those families they kidnap and put in concentration camps.

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u/housecatapocalypse Jul 12 '25

I agree with you entirely. If someone’s past antisocial, violent, psychopathic actions towards law-abiding, nonviolent people make them suddenly feel afraid for their current and future safety, that’s on them. Psychopaths like that should live in constant fear of retribution. 

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u/thecloudcities Jul 12 '25

You don’t know who else lives there. Whatever you think about what they’re doing, bringing a spouse and/or kids into it is not ok.

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u/ibrewbeer Jul 12 '25

But they can terrorize anyone they want, arrest anyone they want for no reason, and enter any home they feel like, laws be damned. They know they’re doing wrong, but they’re responsible for their family. Maybe they shouldn’t be doing things that put their families at risk.

Maybe they should feel the fear they’re instilling in others. Maybe their kids should feel like immigrant kids do every goddamn day.

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u/AgitatorsAnonymous Jul 12 '25

One of the very first things that the federal agencies, military and other government agencies do is explain why your work makes your family a target. They accepted the job same as I did with the Air Force.

Quite literally these jobs have always very much been, take the job and put your family at risk.

If the ICE guys were being decent, not abusing people and perhaps looking at immigration cases honestly and with empathy, they wouldn't be getting their information leaked.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

I doubt most of them live alone. Their kids are entitled to feel safe. All kids are entitled to feel safe. No exceptions.

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u/housecatapocalypse Jul 12 '25

They can always move, or maybe their wives should file for divorce. 

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

Yep. For sure. The kids can definitely move. /s

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u/housecatapocalypse Jul 12 '25

It’s the parents’ job to keep their kids safe, and part of that is to not indulgently engage in activities that would endanger their families. That’s basic elementary knowledge for a parent. Parents should generally be aware of their behavior and not upset the well being of their family by engaging in risky activities that threatens their well being, like needlessly sending innocent people from other families to their deaths in black site concentration camps in foreign countries. 

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

...so when the parents don't do that, the kid is just shit out of luck. Its OK if they are harmed because their parent failed to prevent it. Nice perspective. Thanks for sharing.

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u/ibrewbeer Jul 12 '25

Immigrant kids are also entitled to feel safe. Where’s the pearl clutching for them?

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

I would consider immigrant children to be part of all children. So, we fully agree. They are entitled to feel and be safe.

There's absolutely no pearl clutching here. I just haven't lost my ability to think rationally and independently. I can be concerned about both immigrant children, and the children of ICE agents all at the same time, realizing that all of them are innocent and none of them deserve to be unsafe.

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u/ibrewbeer Jul 12 '25

The difference is that immigrant kids are unsafe because of the color of their skin, which they cannot change. Dad that works for ICE is endangering his family because he chose to WORK for the gestapo. You know, accept money to terrorize his own community.

Dad can get a new job and his kids will be safer, and probably more proud of him. He might even be a contributor to a safe and sane society. Immigrant kids don’t have that option. As long as dad decides immigrants should be afraid, I have no problem remind him that his family is also vulnerable.

We’re way past the point where you can claim “it’s wrong when ICE does it, so it’s wrong when anyone does it.” ICE does it for fear and power. They’re punching down, so to speak. Anyone making lives harder for ICE agents aren’t punching down, they’re resisting fascism and authoritarianism.

See the difference? Your approach allows ICE to continue with even less push back. Mine has a chance of making their recruitment efforts more difficult.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

Kids do not choose their parents nor their parents' line of work. They cannot choose to leave. They cannot defend themselves.

All kids are innocent. All kids deserve to be safe.

By alerting people to the addresses of ICE agents, you endanger everyone who lives at that address. That could include children and/or frail elderly who have nothing to do with anything that is going on now. Their lives matter. I find a line of thinking that contradicts that to be inconceivable.

I have no intention or desire for ICE to continue without pushback. ICE agents need to be held fully accountable for their actions. I think the first step is taking away their masks and requiring them to identify themselves. I think that, in and of itself, would cause resignations.

I do not view their children as acceptable collateral damage.

It seems that you think they are.

If your conscience allows you to designate some innocents as undeserving of the same protections as others, we can't really have a meaningful conversation. I will NEVER agree that any child's life is an acceptable means to an end.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

Wow. Im being downvoted for saying all kids are entitled to safety. I thought that would be a pretty non-controversial statement.

I'll go ahead and mentally lump you folks in with the ICE agents and MAGA who also believe kids don't deserve to be safe. Funny how you've come to occupy the same space as that which you hate.

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u/inkcannerygirl Jul 12 '25

Keeping in mind that plenty of posts on the Internet are trying to make everyone mad at everyone so that we stay disorganized and/or the probability of violence is increased

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

Good point. Well taken.

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u/AgitatorsAnonymous Jul 12 '25

Address records are public.

If you own the home anyone can walk into city hall and verify the deeds you own.

Additionally, most of these guys are probably in the white pages. This is less doxxing and more making already publicly available info more available. Phonebooks still exist.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 Jul 12 '25

Yes. They are. We agree. Many people will not take the steps needed to gain that information. But putting it on a website freely gives access. To someone who could take impulsive action.

Are there phone books everywhere?