ICE officers doxxed by antifa, anarchists in Portland, Noem says

[u/Zen1]

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/07/ice-officers-doxxed-by-antifa-anarchists-in-portland-dhs-says.html

[u/Contagious_Zombie]

It’s also not doxxing unless anyone that gives out their name is considered doxxing. Now if they list their home addresses, personal vehicle plates and family members names then that’s doxxing. The people just want them to have identification such as a name tag and a badge number just like the police.

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/Contagious_Zombie]

To be fair, the photo shows their address. That part is don't agree with. But their name and face? Shouldn't be hidden.

[u/lolligasm → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

Why not give their addresses? Why should they get to feel safe? Terrorizing people like they do.

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/lolligasm]

I doubt most of them live alone. Their kids are entitled to feel safe. All kids are entitled to feel safe. No exceptions.

[u/housecatapocalypse → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

They can always move, or maybe their wives should file for divorce. 

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/housecatapocalypse]

Yep. For sure. The kids can definitely move. /s

[u/housecatapocalypse → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

It’s the parents’ job to keep their kids safe, and part of that is to not indulgently engage in activities that would endanger their families. That’s basic elementary knowledge for a parent. Parents should generally be aware of their behavior and not upset the well being of their family by engaging in risky activities that threatens their well being, like needlessly sending innocent people from other families to their deaths in black site concentration camps in foreign countries. 

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/housecatapocalypse]

...so when the parents don't do that, the kid is just shit out of luck. Its OK if they are harmed because their parent failed to prevent it. Nice perspective. Thanks for sharing.

[u/ibrewbeer → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

Immigrant kids are also entitled to feel safe. Where’s the pearl clutching for them?

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/ibrewbeer]

I would consider immigrant children to be part of all children. So, we fully agree. They are entitled to feel and be safe.

There's absolutely no pearl clutching here. I just haven't lost my ability to think rationally and independently. I can be concerned about both immigrant children, and the children of ICE agents all at the same time, realizing that all of them are innocent and none of them deserve to be unsafe.

[u/ibrewbeer → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

The difference is that immigrant kids are unsafe because of the color of their skin, which they cannot change. Dad that works for ICE is endangering his family because he chose to WORK for the gestapo. You know, accept money to terrorize his own community.

Dad can get a new job and his kids will be safer, and probably more proud of him. He might even be a contributor to a safe and sane society. Immigrant kids don’t have that option. As long as dad decides immigrants should be afraid, I have no problem remind him that his family is also vulnerable.

We’re way past the point where you can claim “it’s wrong when ICE does it, so it’s wrong when anyone does it.” ICE does it for fear and power. They’re punching down, so to speak. Anyone making lives harder for ICE agents aren’t punching down, they’re resisting fascism and authoritarianism.

See the difference? Your approach allows ICE to continue with even less push back. Mine has a chance of making their recruitment efforts more difficult.

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/ibrewbeer]

Kids do not choose their parents nor their parents' line of work. They cannot choose to leave. They cannot defend themselves.

All kids are innocent. All kids deserve to be safe.

By alerting people to the addresses of ICE agents, you endanger everyone who lives at that address. That could include children and/or frail elderly who have nothing to do with anything that is going on now. Their lives matter. I find a line of thinking that contradicts that to be inconceivable.

I have no intention or desire for ICE to continue without pushback. ICE agents need to be held fully accountable for their actions. I think the first step is taking away their masks and requiring them to identify themselves. I think that, in and of itself, would cause resignations.

I do not view their children as acceptable collateral damage.

It seems that you think they are.

If your conscience allows you to designate some innocents as undeserving of the same protections as others, we can't really have a meaningful conversation. I will NEVER agree that any child's life is an acceptable means to an end.

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

Wow. Im being downvoted for saying all kids are entitled to safety. I thought that would be a pretty non-controversial statement.

I'll go ahead and mentally lump you folks in with the ICE agents and MAGA who also believe kids don't deserve to be safe. Funny how you've come to occupy the same space as that which you hate.

[u/inkcannerygirl → u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274]

Keeping in mind that plenty of posts on the Internet are trying to make everyone mad at everyone so that we stay disorganized and/or the probability of violence is increased

[u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 → u/inkcannerygirl]

Good point. Well taken.