r/politics • u/Zen1 Oregon • Jul 12 '25

Paywall ICE officers doxxed by antifa, anarchists in Portland, Noem says

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2025/07/ice-officers-doxxed-by-antifa-anarchists-in-portland-dhs-says.html
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u/Long-Rooster-9641 Jul 12 '25

Anti-fascism is the baddies! /s

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u/Quadrenaro Puerto Rico Jul 12 '25

The problem is tankies aren't antifascist and they make up large swaths of the movement. Russia has had a pretty significant hand in the influence of antigovernment forces around the world, including in the US.

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u/D3athRider Canada Jul 12 '25

Not sure you know what a tankie is or what fascism is. Tankies are typically communists who support the Stalinist/Maoist take on the "dictatorship of the proletariat" concept, with the rationale that capitalists will never allow socialism/worker ownership without violence. They typically believe that in the years after a revolution, there needs to be a hard crack down against the capitalist class and their sympathisers if socialism is to survive it's early stages. That is what tankies usually believe.

That is not fascism. Fascism is specifically a far right/reactionary ideology born out of and most strongly supported by the "small capitalist" class, and which is hypernationalist, hyper militaristic, pro-capitalist, anti-working class, and autocratic/authoritarian at its core. They also tend to believe in some kind of racial/ethnic/national superiority and tend to embrace eugenicist practices in some way or other.

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u/Quadrenaro Puerto Rico Jul 12 '25

I am fully aware what they are. I'm not 12, and didn't just stumble into this yesterday. I've been dealing with tankies for nearly 20 years.

Most anarchist/antifascist/tankies I've know have just turned out to really just be anti-America and latched onto what they perceived to the be the best thing to use to fight it. I had one friend go from anti-bush anarchist to full on putinite in 10 years.

In my decades of experience, I have come to view people who call themselves antifascist the same as when someone calls themselves a, "nice guy." It's one of those things where if you are, you don't need to state it.