r/politics • u/Capable_Salt_SD California • Jul 24 '25
Paywall Jeffrey Epstein’s Birthday Album Included Letters From Bill Clinton, Leon Black
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-birthday-album-included-letters-from-bill-clinton-leon-black-a7cd8cb14.1k
u/Concentrateman Canada Jul 24 '25
All involved need to be held accountable.
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u/FuriousBuffalo Jul 25 '25
Any child rapist should be held to account. Democrat, Republican, Black, White, ... or Orange.
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u/Concentrateman Canada Jul 25 '25
Or human.
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u/hankmoody_irl Kansas Jul 25 '25
Human is a loose term when describing the type of piece of shit it takes to fuck a child.
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u/greedthatsme Jul 25 '25
Can we please be clear, not to nitpick, but I find the distinction important: rape. They didn’t “fuck” or “have sex” with the child. They raped them. That’s an important distinction I believe.
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u/eiserneftaujourdhui Jul 25 '25
GOP disagrees with you
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u/Concentrateman Canada Jul 25 '25
That's a badge of honour as far as I am concerned.
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u/oh-shazbot Jul 25 '25
no dangit! you're supposed to be seething at the idea! you're supposed to defend bill clinton to the ends of the earth!
or at least that's what maga wants everyone to do. fortunately the rest of the world doesn't base their entire personality on sucking up to a conman rapist.
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u/SomeGuyNamedPaul Florida Jul 25 '25
I don't give a damn if Jimmy Carter and Keanu Reeves are on the list, dump them all.
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u/WyrdHarper Jul 25 '25
I'm sure I'm not the only millennial who learned what a blowjob was (vaguely) from NPR coverage of the Monica Lewinsky scandal as a kid. I've always thought he's a skeevy old dude, and HRC refusing to disavow him despite his sordid history was just another reason I preferred other (typically more progressive) candidates over her when I was finally able to vote. The whole "first woman president" thing really rang hollow when she remained married to and toured with a man who cheated on her often and publicly.
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u/FoolishConsistency17 Jul 25 '25
I don't have an opinion on what she should have done. It's her marriage and no one knows their dynamic. What I couldn't forgive were the nominally pro-women advocates falling over themselves to explain how the leader of the free world convincing a 21 year old intern to blow him wasn't at all coercive or inappropriate, totally a mutual relationship, honestly mostly her fault because she was sorta chunky. It was surreal.
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u/iKill_eu Jul 25 '25
Yeah, it really is unforgivable how Monica Lewinsky was treated in the aftermath. And it is a story not told nearly often enough.
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u/kyhoop Jul 25 '25
Nobody should surprised that Clinton is involved. I’d be surprised if it’s underage children, I thought he was just a normal pervert.
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u/CosmicLars Kentucky Jul 24 '25
Publish the entire book.
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u/Front-Lime4460 Jul 24 '25
They will. It’s all going to come out. Just slowly for the suspense or something
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u/droidkc Jul 25 '25
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
That is usually the case, but to me, this seems strategic on Murdoch's part. They are slow rolling this to keep the story alive. If they drop everything they have all at once and the story dies in a week then they have no more cards to play.
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u/BenKen01 Jul 25 '25
Honestly it feels like they’re getting the Clinton thing out there so it can do its thing in the media cycle before the hammer gets dropped on Trump. Like if you released it all at once it would be too much, but now we can talk about Bill for a few days and then maybe Friday we get to see the disgusting drawing Trump made. Idk, just talking out of my ass here.
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u/MyNewsAccount2011 Jul 25 '25
I feel like the Clinton thing is to keep the MAGA base interested.
Most of the pissed off MAGA people still refuse to see that Trump is guilty. They just think he’s covering for the Deep State elite. They say he’s a fraud, because they can’t acknowledge what their eyes and ears are showing them.
Reminding them that the people they hate are on in those files also (probably) is a way to fan the flames.
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
I feel like they released the Clinton letter so that rightwingers wouldn't accuse them of not releasing the page in the book that came from a Democrat president. More Trump content is certainly to come from WSJ though.
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u/ChocoboAndroid Jul 25 '25
It's going to be great when MAGA fully believes this report is true while disbelieving the same report about Trump
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u/Magnetobama Europe Jul 25 '25
Look at their sub. They’re talking about the deep State and how crooked Bondi is but most of them never mention Trump. They just do what they did during his first term - pretend that he’s opposition and not part of the government.
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u/betterplanwithchan Jul 25 '25
Especially since Trump is name dropped in the first paragraph with Clinton.
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u/Fufubear Jul 25 '25
People forget that Trump and the Clintons were in the same circle and only had “beef” when Trump went into office.
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u/PrismPhoneService Jul 24 '25
They’re all involved. Trump, Dershowitz, Clinton.. don’t expect Pam Bondi to take up the torch of what strategically wasn’t for decades..
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u/LorenzoDivincenzo Jul 25 '25
And several former prime ministers of israel, I know we'll definitely hold israeli politicians accounta - oh, wait.
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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 Jul 25 '25
Fun time to remind folks that Ghislaine's daddy had ties to Mossad and ran a publishing empire that he defrauded for hundreds of millions right up until his body was found floating in the Atlantic.
As Carlin said, it's one big club and you ain't it. He just forgot to mention you probably don't wanna be in it. Cuz. Ya know. Of all the child trafficking.
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u/fireman2004 Jul 25 '25
He was given a state funeral in Israel and they basically praised him as a major intelligence asset for the country.
But I'm sure his daughter and Epstein had no ties to Israeli intelligence.
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u/APigInANixonMask Jul 25 '25
He also died a hilarious death. He was peeing off the side of his yacht while fully nude when he had a heart attack, fell overboard, and drowned.
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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 Jul 25 '25
Also that one israeli PM that basically has been seen hanging out at epsteins place many times....
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u/MAD_ELMO California Jul 25 '25
Do people forget garland had 4 years to do this already?
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u/takesjuantogrowone Jul 25 '25
Garland had 4 years to do a lot of things, and he sandbagged for the fascists instead.
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u/Chirpy69 Jul 25 '25
Without disqualifying the current administration and all cronies involved for their moral bankruptcy, Garland is also single-handedly responsible for the things we have come to witness.
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u/ResidentLunaticist Jul 25 '25
Garland did absolute shit those 4 years
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u/Past_My_Subprime Jul 25 '25
Garland, Comey, Mueller, Lynch, Holder, Barr, Sessions, Gonzales, and both Clintons are in the list of subpoenas recommended to Comer a day or two ago in the Epstein/Maxwell probe.
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u/elconquistador1985 Jul 25 '25
From an article about the subpoenae that the oversight committee approved:
Republicans on the committee pushed back and amended the subpoena to also include communications by Biden administration officials and the DOJ. These officials include Bill and Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Merrick Garland, Robert Mueller, William Barr, Jeff Sessions and Alberto Gonzales.
Most of that is probably just to dig up unrelated bullshit, not "omg these people were all involved too".
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u/Framistatic Jul 25 '25
I believe these additional people were subpoenaed, not specifically for the Epstein investigation, but rather that they are being accused of instigating a coup with President Obama… And supposedly faking the Epstein papers
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u/Inlerah Jul 25 '25
I wonder at what point the official stance is going to become "He never got a trial: are you sure he sex trafficked anyone???"
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u/ResidentLunaticist Jul 25 '25
Send them all behind bars what do I care whose team they belong to.
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u/turdherds Jul 25 '25
Makes me glad he was stonewalled from the SC
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u/cdoink Jul 25 '25
Nobody forgets. They were wrong as well. At the same time, members of the current administration repeatedly implied an intention to investigate this right up until the time when they actually gained the ability to do so and now they are doing a 180 and waffling between it doesn’t exist, it was made up, there is no substance to it and people should just forget about it. That’s the only reason they are getting more heat about it and it’s their own fault.
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u/smashinjin10 Jul 25 '25
No we don't. Garland did nothing because he was, and is, a status quo wet blanket. Now we're dealing with a creep from the Epstein files doing nothing because he's actually on them. Garland enabled this by not going after Trump more aggressively, but now we have to address the present danger.
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u/Hesitation-Marx Jul 25 '25
Garland is responsible for
every person sent to CECOT from America
every person in Alligator Auschwitz
every person who dies because of USAID cuts
every person who dies because of NOAA and FEMA cuts
every person who dies because of Brainworm Bobby’s crusade against science
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u/PatchyWhiskers Jul 25 '25
He was stalling like crazy on anything that might have been a problem for Trump. Suspicious?
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u/TuffyButters Jul 25 '25
Yes! No question! No-one is surprised about Clinton anyway.
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u/gradientz New York Jul 25 '25
Decently savvy move by WSJ tbh. Forces the MAGA dipshits to choose between believing the reports because they hate Clinton, or not believing them because they want to suck off Trump.
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u/Teripid Jul 25 '25
Haven't hear anyone saying Clinton should be exempted either.
Slick Willy and Lil' Willy might have a lot in common..
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u/YOSHIMIvPROBOTS Jul 25 '25
What's funny is what Clinton wrote was some banal stuff.
So we have Clinton who wrote 'congrats on living so long' vs Trump writing creepy shit about sharing sex secrets with a pedophile.
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u/11CRT Jul 25 '25
Exactly, so what if he’s mentioned 5 times or 20…how many FBI agents did it take to find all of trumps mentions?
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u/Former-Whole8292 Jul 25 '25
But were the fucking creepy as all hell mentioning secrets with naked drawings… bc i dont care about famous people sending kiss-ass messages to a billionare. But Trump’s birthday note was a confession.
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u/Prayer_Warrior21 Minnesota Jul 24 '25
Cool? Put them in jail.
Was that hard?
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u/Scumrat_Higgins Jul 25 '25
Right? I don’t give a fuck who’s on the list. Hell, they could say my dad is on the damn thing and I’d tell them to toss his ass under the jail for all I care. Everyone on that list, regardless of political association and affiliation, should be in jail
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u/Nerevarine91 American Expat Jul 25 '25
Precisely. Anyone involved with that should absolutely be in prison; I absolutely don’t care who it is.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Jul 25 '25
They literally cannot fathom that we will lock up the people we agreed with if we find out they're pedos...and yet Al Franken got kicked out of the Senate over a fucking photo.
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u/Gp-Creepys Jul 25 '25
Oh my gosh! Thank you for bringing up Franken. There were other allegations other than the photograph. However no charges were ever brought and no ethics investigation was ever requested. Democrat and Republican Senators called for his resignation and he stepped down. To this day there are no misconduct charges to Franken. It's sad that the kind of respect and accountability only seems to shine through on one side. I would have loved an Al Franken-Pete Buttigieg ticket from 2020.
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u/eiserneftaujourdhui Jul 25 '25
Meet the difference between democrats and pro-pedophile republicans
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u/Lord_Hitachi Jul 24 '25
J.B. Smoove’s character from Curb Your Enthusiasm? That Leon Black?
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u/accountabilitycounts America Jul 24 '25
I had the same thought.
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u/ajmartin527 Jul 25 '25
Not quite. It’s this lovely character
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u/-prairiechicken- Canada Jul 25 '25
Oh, big yikes.
Also, apparently this is how his father (Eli Black) died, according to the wiki:
On February 3, 1975, Black went to his office on the forty-fourth floor of the Pan Am Building in Manhattan. At about 8:00 a.m., he fell to his death, landing on the northbound Park Avenue Viaduct beside motorists. Homicide detectives concluded that the quarter-inch glass window was broken with Black's attaché case and classified his death a suicide.[4] A few weeks later the Securities and Exchange Commission uncovered a $1.25 million bribe that United Brands paid to Honduran president Oswaldo López Arellano under authorization by Black in order to obtain a reduction of taxes on banana exports.
Banana Republic(ans), all the way down.
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u/gatsby712 Jul 25 '25
He was signing the letters as disgruntled. FBI figured out who disgruntled was. He thought it was a legit investment opportunity in island real estate and a resort to hang out with adult women.
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u/Alarmed-Narwhals Jul 25 '25
Apparently causing too much ruckus. Or at least a very bad kind of ruckus.
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u/brucepop Jul 25 '25
Oh no I really hope Bill Clinton isn't in the Epstein files, I'll have to get rid of my Bill Clinton hat and my Bill Clinton sneakers and my Bill Clinton cologne and my Bill Clinton watch and take down my Bill Clinton flag and l'll have to delete my Bill Clinton nft trading cards What will I do with my Bill Clinton Bible
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u/skinnah Jul 25 '25
Don't forget about your Clinton Coins
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u/Big-Ergodic_Energy Jul 25 '25
My Clinton hat is too big to wear so it's on my wall. Shame I have to get rid of the hat that says MAIDOWTDOIIA.
("What the definition of 'is' is" reference for my fellow elderly)
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u/Eduardjm Jul 25 '25
Did you post this comment from your Clinton phone browser, then cross post it on Clinton social, just before buying more Clinton crypto coins?
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u/supra_kl Jul 25 '25
Damn. I need to drop out of Clinton University!
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u/BlingyBling1007 Texas Jul 25 '25
When you put it with another person’s name, it sounds so ridiculous and couldn’t imagine anyone doing that and then realize that how many of his followers actually have all those things. It’s really sad, actually.
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Jul 25 '25
You WILL NOT get out of your ironclad Bill Clinton wireless plan though.
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u/falsekoala Canada Jul 25 '25
I hope MAGA reads this and realize how fucking insane this sounds and how dumb they are to get conned by Trump.
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u/enjoycarrots Florida Jul 24 '25
So, not that I'm trying to exonerate Bill Clinton the sex pest probable rapist, but it should be strongly noted that Trump's letter isn't bad just because it was in Jeffrey Epstein's birthday album or addressed to Epstein. It's the actual content of that letter that is hard to interpret any other way than a wink-wink reference to secret, potentially criminal sexual endeavors.
If Clinton is implicated in Epstein's child prostitution, then I hope he's charged and thrown in jail. I hope that information becomes public.
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u/AusToddles Jul 25 '25
Never discount Republican ability to double-speak. Clinton writing Happy birthday to Epstein will be inexcusable while Trump's creepy, cryptic love letter to Epstein will be "nothing to look at"
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u/ajmartin527 Jul 25 '25
I think the problem with them going after Clinton, or scapegoating Clinton in any way, is that they’ll have to crack open all of the evidence files in court AND would be setting the precedent people in the Epstein files should be prosecuted. It would be a flying too close to the sun situation.
I can see them focusing on him in the media and trashing him but never actually trying to prosecute.
If he’s guilty he obviously should be held accountable at some point.
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u/thegloriousporpoise Jul 25 '25
There’s less than zero chance that Hilary doesn’t have the same evidence on Trump that Trump has on Bill.
It’s why no one ratted anyone out yet. Mutually assured destruction
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u/AusToddles Jul 25 '25
Someone asked "why are there so many photos of Maxwell with celebrities, who then say they have no idea who she is"
My theory has always been M.A.D. Let's say some unproblematic celeb started talking about shit they heard on the grapevine. All of the sudden, a random picture from an event 15 years early pops up of them standing next to Maxwell. Now everything they say will be tinged with "yeah... but he knew her too.... so who's to say he wasn't doing it also"
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u/hgeyer99 Michigan Jul 25 '25
What does M.A.D. Mean
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u/AusToddles Jul 25 '25
Mutally Assured Destruction
aka "if I'm going down, I'm taking you with me". It's arguably the one thing that stopped WW3 happening during the cold war. Neither side could fire first without the other having time to retaliate
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u/newmoonchaperone Jul 25 '25
My disposition:
Having lived whitewater (anti clinton catch all), Republican spawned birtherism (anti obama catchall) & factional bullshit for DECADES when Democrats are in power:
If we're talking about Clinton in the context of Epstein with Trump in power, then we've already fumbled away the ball.
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u/neogreenlantern Jul 25 '25
Yeah. Obviously these things should bury people in the court of public opinion but sending a pervy cards or showing up in the flight logs don't actually constitute a real crime.
I have a feeling any of these documents the FBI has don't actually spell out any crimes and the real reason Trump hasn't gone after any names mentioned is because the same amount of circumstantial evidence, if not more, can be said about him. I'm sure if he has concrete evidence about some he hates he wouldn't hesitate to use it.
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u/Obvious-Dinner-1082 Jul 25 '25
What’s the deal with Bill Clinton? I guess I haven’t heard or read much besides the blowjob. Which, morally wrong, cheating on your wife isn’t exactly mind blowing.
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u/enjoycarrots Florida Jul 25 '25
He was accused by a number of women of various degrees of sexual impropriety. The woman he got the blowjob (and other things) from was quite young at the time, although an adult, and he was in a stark position of power over her, so even the blowjob was a bit deeper than just him being a cheater.
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u/Obvious-Dinner-1082 Jul 25 '25
Oh, I just skimmed the Wikipedia and saw some of those. Well, if he’s on the list and involved, let’s throw him in the hole too.
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u/a_talking_face Florida Jul 25 '25
is hard to interpret any other way than a wink-wink reference to secret, potentially criminal sexual endeavors.
My first thought was that they were actually secret lovers.
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u/Icommandyou Washington Jul 24 '25
the book included a page with a single paragraph in Clinton’s distinctive scrawl: “ It’s reassuring isn’t it, to have lasted as long, across all the years of learning and knowing, adventures and [illegible word], and also to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference and the solace of friends.”
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u/NettyVaive Jul 25 '25
Grammatically it’s a mess. It doesn’t even make sense AND sounds pretty creepy.
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u/debauchasaurus Jul 25 '25
But nowhere near as creepy as the other one.
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u/Buntschatten Jul 25 '25
It's pretty close, especially the "childlike curiosity".
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u/KnightDuty Jul 25 '25
OMFG if all of these have references to "children" in some way I'm going to lose my shit.
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u/Dazzling-Cabinet6264 Jul 25 '25
I’m just trying to figure out what kind of friends write things like this to each other.
Do people just glaze billionaires because they’re billionaires?
Like my very best friend in this world, I think I have bought him something for his birthday once or twice as an adult… We both tried it just never stuck.
So now, if we’re lucky we get or send a text to each other.
And it just says “happy birthday bud”
I ain’t writing some creepy ass poem
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u/KnightDuty Jul 25 '25
If their partner said "I'm putting together something special for their milestone 50th. I'm asking everybody to write a note or poem or special message" it does change the framing. I've seen it done in video form for milestones.
But it's never creepy
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u/Luke_Cocksucker Jul 24 '25
“But, but, but…what about” We don’t care. Stop protecting wealthy pedophiles.
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u/alphadefekt86 Jul 25 '25
I’m left. I hate Trump. But if any democrat is in the Epstein list for being a pedo, take them down all the same. Fuck these pieces of shit.
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u/RunDownTheHighway Jul 24 '25
I dont care if is a note from Mr Rogers in that album, just release the fucking thing!! Murdock is holding it to see what he can get from trump...
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u/Front-Lime4460 Jul 24 '25
He’s done with Trump. He’s just slowly priming the foxbrains for a takedown
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u/RunDownTheHighway Jul 25 '25
we can only hope... but it seems ive been hearing trump is done since the first election day, and yet here we are...
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u/ScepticalReciptical Jul 25 '25
Murdoch hates Trump, thinks he's fucking moron that cost him $1bn with his rigged election bullshit, he will never forget that. But Murdoch is also perfectly willing to use Trumps popularity for his own devices. Now that Trump has delivered the biggest wealth transfer in history it's time for them to cut him loose.
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u/Capable_Salt_SD California Jul 24 '25
Forgive me for taking a while to bypass the paywall. My usual options weren't working. But for those who don't have an account, excerpts are below:
Jeffrey Epstein’s Birthday Album Included Letters From Bill Clinton, Leon Black
Former president, Wall Street billionaire were listed along with Donald Trump as ‘friends’ in the 2003 book’s table of contents, which named around five dozen contributors
By Khadeeja Safdar and Joe Palazzolo
In the end, she was successful. The leather-bound album—assembled before Epstein was first arrested in 2006—included a page with a single paragraph in Clinton’s distinctive scrawl:
It’s reassuring isn’t it, to have lasted as long, across all the years of learning and knowing, adventures and [illegible word], and also to have your childlike curiosity, the drive to make a difference and the solace of friends.
A spokesman for Clinton declined to comment on the birthday message, which was reviewed by the Journal. He referred the Journal to a previous statement that the former president had cut off ties more than a decade before Epstein was arrested in 2019 and didn’t know about Epstein’s alleged crimes.
The former president was among around five dozen people, including Donald Trump, Wall Street billionaire Leon Black, fashion designer Vera Wang and media owner Mort Zuckerman, who ended up with letters in the 2003 book, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.
The letter bearing Trump’s signature, which had the outline of a naked woman, was one of the more memorable pages, according to the people involved in putting the album together. Trump has called the letter “a fake thing.”
The professionally bound birthday book had multiple volumes and included a table of contents that listed the contributions, organized into groups. While many letter writers weren’t famous, some categories had notable people.
Clinton and Trump were listed under the “Friends” group, along with about 20 other associates such as Black, Zuckerman, former Victoria’s Secret leader Leslie Wexner, attorney Alan Dershowitz, and the late Jean-Luc Brunel, who ran a modeling agency. Zuckerman didn’t respond to requests for comment.
A “Business” group included the late Alan “Ace” Greenberg and the late James “Jimmy” Cayne. Both men worked at Bear Stearns when Epstein was at the investment bank in the 1970s.
Other people were grouped under categories such as “Science,” “Brooklyn” and “Family.”
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
I'm not trying to protect Clinton here. If he is guilty then he should be locked up.
That said...there is clearly a difference between the content of Clinton's letter and Trump's letter. One sounds like something you'd read on a graduation card or an eldery person's birthday card. The other is just....well disgustingly gross.
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u/WDWKamala Jul 25 '25
I gotta say the mention of “childlike curiosity” is a peculiar choice of phrase.
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
I've heard that phrase plenty of times in my life and I've never associated it with pedophilia. I'd chalk it up to a very unfortunate choice of words. Again though, if Clinton is guilty then he should be locked up for the rest of his life.
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u/paultheschmoop Jul 25 '25
Clinton is notoriously a sex pest and we’re talking about a letter he wrote to a notorious child sex trafficker. He deserves no benefit of the doubt. We’d think it’s weird if trump wrote it and it’s weird that Clinton wrote it.
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
If Trump had written the letter that Clinton wrote I would not find it weird or disturbing at all. It's a well documented fact that they were close friends for a very long time. It's pretty normal for friends to give friends a birthday card. I am unwilling to say every person who gave Epstein a birthday card is a pedophile. It just simply isn't true.
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u/BlooregardQKazoo Jul 25 '25
it's a common saying. taking issue with that is almost as bad as people claiming that "enigmas" was used as an anagram for "gamines."
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u/nyc217 Jul 25 '25
Fuck that. Clinton maybe was just not dumb enough to write incriminating innuendos because he already was already president.
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u/Great_Standard3441 Jul 25 '25
Clinton is certainly smarter than Trump. I'll give you that. That said, this article is about Clinton's letter. Nothing in that letter is remotely comparable to Trump's letter.
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u/YaketyMax Jul 24 '25
Clearly what happened here is Obama and Comey planted a fake Trump letter among authentic ones from actual pedos. /s
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u/HyperbolicLetdown Jul 25 '25
Then held onto it for 10 years waiting for the right moment
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u/HyperbolicLetdown Jul 25 '25
Leon's friend Larry is a known associate of Harvey Weinstein.
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u/zelda93 I voted Jul 25 '25
No not bill! Oh wait, I don’t give a shit about him cause I’m not in a cult. Release the files
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u/reddittorbrigade Jul 25 '25
Clinton being dragged into the picture does not make Trump less pedophile.
Most likely, they are both pedophiles but I am more worried with Trump because he is our president who can cover up the story.
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u/HUP Jul 24 '25
I used to love BC. If he's involved, fuck him.
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u/UltravioletAfterglow Jul 25 '25
Clinton long has had an established history of at best improper and at worst predatory behavior toward women, though, and was arrogant enough to conduct some of it in the Oval Office. To me, he was a good president but is a bad human being.
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u/Front-Lime4460 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 25 '25
He’s always been a philanderer and associated w Epstein & Trump
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u/even_less_resistance Arkansas Jul 25 '25
This is true. I had to come to terms with this when researching more. I don’t know if he is a criminal in this regard, but he def has creep vibes.
Business Week has a very friendly profile of Burkle — his first in three years, they claimed, though LA Weekly begs to differ — in which Burkle, who is currently making a play for Barney’s and Barnes & Noble, disses the former president and makes it clear that the breakup was not just one-sided. You know, because Hillary was running for President and Burkle was a well-known womanizer and model hound and the two of them together caused rumors and nicknames for the Burkle jet like “Air Fuck One.” I know. Burkle totally had to end it.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/print/ron-burkle-throws-bill-clinton-under-the-bus/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_Online
After a series of three test issues focused on satire, he relaunched it in 2005 and again in 2006 with help from investors and family members, including Jeffrey Epstein.[10][11][12]
The print magazine was suddenly shuttered in 2008 after its primary backer, billionaire Ron Burkle, who owned a substantial interest in Star and National Enquirer publisher American Media, withdrew.
I vote we investigate more of these fellas rather than less, tbh
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u/Able_Ad_458 Jul 25 '25
Take 'em all down! I voted for Clinton twice, but if he's involved (and that's not really a shocker) he needs to go down too!
We cannot condone this. I don't care what their politics are or how much money they have.
Lock 'em all up!
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u/bigt503 Jul 25 '25
Get them too. It’s hilarious that people on the right think dems cultishly worship bill Clinton. There isn’t a single person on earth I wouldn’t want to be held accountable for sex trafficking and raping minors. (Or anybody for that matter )
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u/panda546 Jul 25 '25
Great, if true, prosecute them all. Throw them all in jail, every single one. Both sides of the aisle and anywhere in between.
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u/mojoman566 Jul 25 '25
I think a copy of Trump's letter should be included as a forward in every copy of his Bible he sells.
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u/Hot_Mathematician357 Jul 25 '25
I bet MAGA thinks Clinton’s letter is legit but Trump is fake news.
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u/Invisibleagejoy Jul 25 '25
Voted for Clinton. I voted for Hillary Clinton as well. Hate Trump. It is likely that Bill did things and Hillary may have known enough that she should have acted. If this is true Lock them up. If someone previously thought to be a person I lookup to shows up, prosecute and put them in jail.
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u/byza089 Jul 25 '25
Republicans are like “well there’s democrats on the files” everyone else is like “no fuckin shit, throw them all in jail”
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u/ucancallmevicky Jul 24 '25
no surprise and I had to google Leon Black
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u/Pr0sthetics Jul 25 '25
Me, too. It makes sense a person like him would be involved.
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u/99923GR Jul 25 '25
Ok. Did he write the letter with a doodle of a naked girl and wish him that every day is a wonderful new secret? Because if he's guilty I'm ok with him getting the blowtorch.
But Trump is 100% guilty.
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u/Pdm1814 Jul 25 '25
lol at this. Media needs to quit with the clickbait headlines and post Bill Clinton’s message side by side with Trump. There is a big difference in what Clinton said vs Trump.
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u/Go_cards502 Jul 24 '25
cool. Fuck anyone on that list if it comes out they are pedos.
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u/PatienceMaximum377 Jul 24 '25
How many times do we have to tell them? Prosecute every damn one of them. Saying but Clinton sent a birthday card doesn't say tRump didn't. It's like when I catch one of my 4 year old students doing something wrong and they say but he did it first.
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u/Glittering_Range371 Arizona Jul 25 '25
Any1 that paid for a service must be locked up (no one above the law)
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u/BecauseBatman01 Jul 25 '25
Cool. Prosecute them too. Idc if it’s dem or republican. Release the file and straight to jail
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u/CallRespiratory Jul 25 '25
Lock everybody up. I don't care what political football team they're on.
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u/Empty_Lemon_3939 Michigan Jul 25 '25
Republicans: see you guys want to protect them to!
Us: release the list and arrest the pedos
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u/Ok-Common-4653 Jul 25 '25
My money is on at least one current member of SCOTUS.
Everyone who was involved should be in prison.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 Jul 25 '25
"Clinton and Trump were listed under the “Friends” group, along with about 20 other associates such as Black, Zuckerman, former Victoria’s Secret leader Leslie Wexner, attorney Alan Dershowitz, U.K. politician Peter Mandelson and the late Jean-Luc Brunel, who ran a modeling agency."
Seems like these were the ones most obviously tied to being "clients" lol
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u/picklebucketguy Jul 25 '25
I mean if we got at least two presidents locked up, lock them up together. Opposite ends of the hall on the same block
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u/B1GFanOSU Jul 25 '25
Thing is, one side has zero hesitation about that. Like, I might still have to a Clinton-Gore campaign pin from the 1990s somewhere, but I’ve never had a Clinton campaign hat, a Clinton flag, or especially a Clinton Bible BECAUSE THEY DON’T EXIST!!!
If he was fucking kids, lock his ass up. I doubt even his most ardent supporters wouldn’t want justice. That’s what not being in a fucking cult is like. Democrats have already been keeping him at arms length for the last quarter century.
That said, my skepticism is because of Hillary, Paula Jones, and Monica Lewinsky. He had a type, and it didn’t appear to be anywhere close to what Epstein was peddling. Maybe he was into the Epstein scene, but I’d have more (admittedly kind of gross and chauvinistic) questions.
But, only one way to find out…
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u/palebluekot Florida Jul 25 '25
I might have to get rid of my Bill Clinton hat, my Bill Clinton bumper stickers, and my inflatable Bill Clinton decoration my yard! /s
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u/Elegant_Plate6640 Jul 24 '25
Were they also weird messages about sharing secrets with one another?
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u/gumgajua Canada Jul 24 '25
I'm sorry, but how is this literally a story about anything? This is such a complete nothing burger, what am I supposed to garner from this information? Man has friends, those friends wrote birthday messages to him.
There literally isn't a single shred of scandalous information in here, sure there are some names listed, but absolutely nowhere does it link people to any crimes. Trump is definitely in the Epstein list, but this is just such useless garbage. Guess the only real use for it is to keep this in the news cycle, which I do suppose is good.
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u/threethreethree1203 Jul 25 '25
Jean Luc Brunel also killed himself in 2020… Epstein backed his modeling agency. Trump also had a modeling agency that he closed in 2016. Lots and lots of beautiful people women they could use and abuse for profit in the industry…. and beyond
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u/taintedchops America Jul 25 '25
Glad that for the last 30 years the middle class has been progressively drowning worse and worse and rather than fix our country, our politicians just decided to fuck kids together. America is a joke
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u/coreoYEAH Jul 25 '25
Let any of them are guilty rot together.
And that headline is missing a pretty big name 🤣
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u/ScrubNickle America Jul 25 '25
Right-wingers don’t seem to understand that we on the left aren’t in personality cults. If Bill’s a pedo lock him the fuck up.
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