r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 28d ago

Soft Paywall Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell survivor testified she met Donald Trump at age 14

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2025/07/29/jeffrey-epstein-survivor-testified-she-met-donald-trump-at-age-14/85407198007/
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u/OkayButFoRealz 28d ago

A child sex abuse survivor from Palm Beach County who testified at the Ghislaine Maxwell trial in 2021 said she had met Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein at Mar-a-Lago in the 1990s when she was 14 and was once a contestant in Trump's Miss Teen USA beauty pageant.

She was trafficked through Trump's pageant.

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u/troubadoursmith Colorado 28d ago edited 28d ago

When Trump says his falling out with Epstein was over Jeff hiring Trump's workers, this is what he really means. Poaching his victims, more like.

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u/Falron Europe 28d ago

So he’s not hiding the files just because he is a co-conspirator but because these files would presumably shine a light on his own, independent heinous crimes.

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u/loglighterequipment California 28d ago

Epstein is in the Trump files.

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u/specqq 28d ago edited 28d ago

I'm torn between calling them the Trump-Epstein files to emphasize how Trump was a major player not just a bystander, and calling them the Epstein-Trump files, because there's a non-zero chance he gets so irritated by the second billing that he comes out and says "Look, I raped way more girls than Jeff, OK? He could only dream about doing as many as I did."

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u/Xouph Vermont 28d ago

Trumpstein files.

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u/BurningCanMan 28d ago

This is a common misconception. It’s actually Trumpstein’s monster.

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u/dwntwn_dine_ent_dist I voted 28d ago

Yeah, but the true monster was Trumpstein himself.

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u/ZincFingerProtein 28d ago

Trumpstein and the republican mob behind him supporting him are all the monsters.

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u/Reality-Shmeality 28d ago

Yeah, in this story the angry villagers with torches and pitchforks are fighting FOR the monster.

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u/bootybuns 28d ago

The real Epstein is the Trumps we met along the way.

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u/Gold_Rent_7939 28d ago

Thank you for making me exhale through my nose comedically

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u/PearljamAndEarl 28d ago

🎵🎤

Trumpsteins

Meet the Trumpsteins

Never let them near your family..

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u/Embarrassed_Art5414 28d ago

From an isle of, pedos

They're about to let Ghislaine go free

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u/PearljamAndEarl 28d ago edited 28d ago

Let slide all the crimes that they commit

All the secrets Trump cannot admit

When you’re with the Trumpsteins

Well, you’re gonna need a r*** kit

And Jeff’ll tape it

But Donald Trump do time?

Nah.

Na na na

Nah

Na na na

Naah, nah

Nah, nah nah

Of course he won’t serve tiiiiime!

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u/Fall3n_Won 28d ago

Nailed it!

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago

Let's hide, with the family or be beat,

By the, brutality of I C E

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u/tbug30 28d ago

Wish I could multi-updoot this.

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u/ExplosiveBrown 28d ago

Trump supplied girls to Epstein through his pageants. Not only is a pedophile rapist but he was participating in the trafficking as well

The conspiracy nuts were right on this one. Wild

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u/perthguppy 28d ago

Literally every accusation is a projection. Tommorow we will find out they held a pageant/party at a fucking chuck-e-cheese

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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 28d ago

In a reverse of the old Hair Club For Men slogan, Trump isn't just a client, he's the CEO of human trafficking inc.

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u/2x4_Turd 28d ago

Saw someone call it pedo-files. Works for me.

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u/tedmented 28d ago

May or may not be a reference to this classic Brass Eye episode.

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u/bunnypaste 28d ago

I've thought about starting to say, "Trumpstein," but I like your idea of putting Trump last so that he feels like he "isn't even the best molestor."

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u/KarlBob 28d ago

So "Epstrump"?

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u/mytthew1 28d ago

He was more than just a client, he was a co-groomer.

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u/perthguppy 28d ago

An Epstein supplier?

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u/clash_by_night 28d ago

In that case, definitely the second option. I'm half-convinced he could admit to it openly and there would still be no consequences.

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u/tripping_yarns 28d ago

Epstein files, Trump files, they should be called Exhibit A.

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u/StrikingAnxiety5527 28d ago

Or maybe its the Trump files instead? Or Trump-Epstein files?

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u/Front-Lime4460 28d ago

Could also be the Maxwell files because apparently she was actually the mastermind behind it all

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u/Hey_Im_Finn 28d ago

Fwiw the Maxwell files does sound cooler.

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u/Front-Lime4460 28d ago

Right? Lol

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u/Atypical-lurker 28d ago

So, if she spills the beans and justice actually gets done, will that be due to Maxwell's Silver Hammer?

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u/DankZXRwoolies 28d ago

Trumpstein files?

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u/dreevsa 28d ago

This win

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u/old-cow666 28d ago

Awesome how you put this.

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u/f_n_a_ 28d ago

This comment will be on protest signs everywhere, like, today. Way to go and perfectly said.

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u/dubbfoolio 28d ago

Release the Trump list!

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u/Kevo_NEOhio 28d ago

Forget the Epstein files, I want to see the Trump files.

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u/Ok_Ad2872 New York 28d ago

What a sincere, articulate, captivating and extremely well thought out post.

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u/Mooseandchicken 28d ago

I wish I could upvote twice. Republicans elected a literal pedophile as a meme.

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u/FreshShart-1 28d ago

I think it's more likely to draw a clear connection that Trump abused children in these pageants AND Epstein/Maxwell recruited directly from the pageants. Extra motivation for Trump to bury it, he was PART OF IT.

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u/whatshamilton 28d ago

I mean people don’t know where Epstein’s initial capital came from. He wasn’t independently wealthy. He must have had some sort of secret financing from some silent of silent partner

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u/chimarya I voted 28d ago

I swear he ran a pedo-brothel of sorts and acted like these mega rich people's friend but blackmailed them for money and silence. These poor surviving girls/women know that these are powerful people that abused them and would probably be killed for talking out. Who knows who he was working for CIA or Mossad. I just wish someone would release it all and let the pieces fall on whoever is guilty.

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u/Strange-Parfait-8801 28d ago

He had power of attorney over the founder of Victoria's Secret/Bath and Body Works. Mind you this dude was of completely sound mind and had zero reason for complete control over all of his assets to go to some nobody like Epstein.

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u/Aman_Syndai 28d ago

Les Wexner is/was the owner of the brands you mentioned, there are a lot of rumors about him being gay which is why he married Abigal his wife. Her dad was also possibly a Mossad agent or very connected to them as well; Yehuda Koppel, opened the first American office for El Al airlines, and was a member of Haganah, the paramilitary that evolved into the IDF.

There is a good chance Wexner used his wealth to bankroll Mossad Epstein's honeypot trap for the rich & famous.

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u/Tumble85 28d ago

Yea but why give Epstein total control of his assets?

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u/Aman_Syndai 28d ago

Les has always been a huge supporter of Israel and may have been caught with some underage boys.

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u/americanrealism 28d ago

I think it’s probably more likely that he was hand-selected to head up the pedo-brothel enterprise. Some very powerful people said “we’re going to make you a billionaire but when this goes sideways you’re the one going down, not us.”

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u/whatshamilton 28d ago

Yes that’s what the entire Epstein list is — because that is what he did. I’m saying no one knows how he got the capital he used to start that up. You don’t just walk up to senators and billionaires and say hey I have little girls you can diddle. You need power and money to access power and money, and no one knows where he got that initial power and money. Many of us feel it was that he was selected to be the front man by someone who was the silent funder — and I think it’s likely that person is now in the White House

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u/chimarya I voted 28d ago

Was Maxwell's father connected? All I know is I've always thought Drumpf was icky since a little kid. He was naff for such a long time and I think everyone forgot that he's a piece of shit.

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u/MrBDidit 28d ago

https://bsky.app/profile/wyden.senate.gov/post/3lu67bq4qq22x “New bombshell from my investigators on Epstein's sex trafficking operation: the Trump administration has an Epstein file detailing 4,725 wire transfers and almost $1.1 billion flowing through just one of his banks. Hundreds of millions more through others.”

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u/Pipe_Memes 28d ago

May everyday be another beautiful secret.

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u/Skov 28d ago

It would make sense that Trump was working with Epstein for the US intelligence. It would explain why they didn't say anything about this obviously compromised individual running for president.

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u/GrannyWW 28d ago

Still don’t believe Virginia Giuffre killed herself. Too convenient - like Epstein.

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u/H-Resin 28d ago

Yes this has always been the case in my opinion. I think it’s highly plausible that Trump truly isn’t on the Epstein flight logs and that he really didn’t ever have the “privilege” to go to the island. These were two dudes running their own independent of each other pedo rings (well…Trumps was probably just his own personal) who admired each other from afar and maybe had a swap or two. Or perhaps a “deal” as the buffoon likes to call it

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u/lazyFer 28d ago

Trump is 100% on those flight logs

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u/Santa_Clause_is_Dead 28d ago

I wonder if evidence of Trump raping young pageant contestants is the kompromat that Putin holds against him?

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u/Grand-Assist-3286 28d ago

The flight logs were released or leaked a while back and he was in there at least a couple times. Not sure if the logs that leaked were the full logs for however long the plane operated or just a snippet, but he was in there.

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u/loondawg 28d ago

she met Donald Trump with Epstein at Mar-a-Lago when she was 14.

More and more I am coming to believe Trump was not an Epstein client but a partner. And Mar-a-Lago was a recruiting ground and destination for their clients.

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u/Aggravating-Feed-624 28d ago

and he needs the supreme court to say that Maxwell's prosecution goes against the non-prosecution deal that was signed when Epstein was convicted in florida.

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u/perthguppy 28d ago

It sounds like Trump was an active part of the trafficking? Like not (just) a customer, but a supplier and facilitator on the same level as Maxwell, or higher. That strange party that only had trump and Epstein as guests was probably a training party or some shit

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u/YouDontKnowJackCade 28d ago edited 28d ago

Look up Trumps friendship with John Casabalancas

Also his close relationships with Roy Moore and Matt Gaetz.

Also his closeness with Vince McMahon and Sean Diddy Combs and Ted Nugent

Also with Roy Cohn, George Nader and Robert Mooris.

Why is Trump close with so many people accused of child sex crimes?

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u/waltzbyear 28d ago

With all of the information coming to light, it's hard not to see Trump as an Epstein partner in those crimes. He was probably more of a ring leader and Epstein was the best friend turned patsy. Trump cut that branch off before investigations looked to him.

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u/ChieftainBob 28d ago

Didn't Elon have something to say about that?

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u/stierney49 28d ago

Yes. What this whole ordeal is telling me is that they couldn’t scrub Trump from the files without leaving gaping holes.

Otherwise they would have erased his and his allies’ names and just released something that looked bad for other people.

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u/Chance_Load_4056 28d ago

I just can’t fathom why he would go so hard on releasing them on his campaign trail… it doesn’t make sense at all.

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u/tweakingforjesus 28d ago edited 28d ago

Virginia Roberts Giuffre was working at Mar-a-lago as a towel attendant when Ghislaine Maxwell poached her to be abused by Epstein. Trump was upset that Ghislaine was fishing in his private pond.

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u/lfcitz 28d ago

How do we know that's not all b******* and he was getting paid for supplying those victims?

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u/Notsurehowtoreact Florida 28d ago

It's likely both. 

He probably got pissed they poached from Mar-A-Shithole without payment.

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u/cahir11 28d ago

This isn't tiktok, you can say "bullshit"

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u/Bennybonchien 28d ago

Maybe they wanted to keep it reader’s choice. I’m going with Botswana myself.

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u/lfcitz 28d ago

I'm f****** tired of editing the autocorrects.

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u/sambull 28d ago

A book from bill barrs dad - who hired epstein at a school:

While en route to Kossar, one of the pirates awakened Craig and the other prisoners to rape a --- ---- bad shit --- redheaded female captive in front of them; the rapist's fellow pirates later hear of this and dock his pay as punishment for spoiling her market value

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u/ThreeHolePunch 28d ago

Conservatives always dream up the most wildest, most depraved shit about raping kids.

Scooter Libby (former Chief of Staff to VP Cheney) wrote a novel, The Apprentice with some crazy child rape/beastiality:

Then the young samurai's mother had the child sold to a brothel, where she swept the floors and oiled the women and watched the secret ways. At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. Groups of men paid to watch. Like other girls who have been trained this way, she learned to handle many men in a single night and her skin turned a milky white.

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u/idwthis Florida 28d ago

What the absolute fuck

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u/GullibleWineBar 28d ago

Seriously. What the ABSOLUTE fuck?!?

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u/Rockinphin 28d ago

Jesus H Christ what a day to have eyes. What the hell did I just read??

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u/lopix Canada 28d ago

I think I want to go live in a cave and become illiterate

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u/The_Meme_Economy 28d ago

Book title checks out

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u/Incogneatovert Europe 28d ago

How do you unread something?

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u/microboop America 28d ago

Thanks for convincing me not to read that.

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u/ConspicuousPineapple 28d ago

That's the worst thing I've read in recent memory, in pretty much every way.

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u/ballisticks Canada 28d ago

You just know the author was fapping when he wrote that

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u/AntoniaFauci 28d ago

Note that even though nobody was asking, Trump enthusiastically pardoned Scooter Libby.

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u/liminal_eye 28d ago

Trump read the name of the book and thought it was about him

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u/AntoniaFauci 28d ago

Trump read the

Imma stop you right there.

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u/liminal_eye 28d ago

Novelists from the 80s and 90s try not to write the most degenerate shit thought up by man. Challenge: Impossible

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u/jDub549 28d ago

what a day to have eyes...

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u/NickelBackwash 28d ago

a school

A girls school. 

Epstein, unqualified as a teacher, was given access to teen girls... 

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u/Daveslay 28d ago

Hey now!

That’s “former” OSS Officer Ronald Barr to you, Bub!

The OSS was the precursor to the American CIA, which I don’t need to tell anyone is a blood-soaked, democracy destroying organization, often funding its “clandestine” operations by being front and center of global drug and sex trafficking

It’s also famous for being a job: “People never truly retire from”

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u/anthropomorphizingu 28d ago

Katie Johnson’s testimony details how they fought in front of her over Trump (TW disgusting) being the one to take her virginity

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u/dave_your_wife 28d ago

You mean the first to rape her?

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u/anthropomorphizingu 28d ago edited 28d ago

Yes lots of child rape, by Trump and Epstein, the child rapists.

ETA: they both had already sexually assaulted her multiple times before Trump raped her.

Just highlighting what aspect they fought over.

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u/Chicago1871 28d ago

Oh so when trump was bragging about grabbing them by you know what, he was bragging about assaulting little girls?

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u/Ok-Maize-8199 28d ago

Yes, literally. When he talks about walking into changing rooms and just start kissing, the changing rooms he was talking about were for Miss Teen USA.

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u/Chicago1871 28d ago

He must be stopped at all costs

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u/sonyka 28d ago

That's three different things.
Just to be clear (because it's hard to keep all the grossness straight):

  • The "just start kissing" quote was from the Access Hollywood grab-em-by-the-pussy tape. He was at least nominally talking about "women." Which is still not ok.

  • When he giggity-bragged about walking into changing rooms and "inspecting" the women on Howard Stern they were talking about Miss USA and Miss Universe, which are (young) adult pageants. Multiple contestants (and weirdly, Ivanka) have confirmed this. Also not ok.

  • And several former Miss Teen USA contestants— some as young as 14 at the time— have also said he would routinely walk in on them changing. Def not ok.

 
Ugh. This cretin.

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u/fasterthanpligth 28d ago

"And when you're famous they let you do it."

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u/1877KlownsForKids 28d ago

First to rape someone that looked just like his daughter Ivanka 

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u/Bubbles_2025 28d ago

“Donald, if you don’t let me, you won’t have the privilege of going to the island.” - Epstein probably

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u/sonyka 28d ago

More Freudian spinning.

The "privilege" slip is hilarious, but don't let it distract from how that whole line of defense is bullshit. Doesn't matter whether he went to the island— Epstein was perving it up right in NYC. And Palm Beach. Where the guy was practically his neighbor. He didn't need to go to LSJ.

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u/cyberattaq123 28d ago

Was Katie the one where they played that fucking weird ‘sexual harassment’ ‘game’ like seeing who could touch her the ‘best’ or something I guess or was that another innocent child Trump and Epstein violated.

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u/MayIServeYouWell 28d ago

I heard it was because Epstein or Maxwell were going after members kids, and not the usual “poor, desperate workers”. But that is just hearsay.

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u/sonyka 28d ago

Hearsay from Trump. He said he banned Epstein from MAL because he was being inappropriate with a member's daughter. Said it for years. That's not hearsay, that's testimony.

Then there was the 'actually they broke up over a real estate deal' explanation, where JE outbid him on a property he wanted or something. That one was hearsay. But he never contested it.

And now he and his people are throwing out new explanations fortnightly. Now they broke up because JE was poaching his towel girls? I can barely keep up.

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u/psillyhobby 28d ago edited 28d ago

Donald is petty enough I can hear him saying “BuT iIiIi WaS sUpPoSeD tO RaPe Her! ShE wAs MyYy vIcTiM”

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u/harglblarg 28d ago

In retaliation for Tump "stealing" Katie Johnson from him, no doubt.

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u/33drea33 28d ago

Yep. This competition between the two men is referred to multiple times in the Katie Johnson testimony.

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u/A_Soft_Fart 28d ago

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Is a weird way for him to tell the “truth,” in that Epstein poached a “worker” from him. Zero question, that’s exactly what it was.

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u/timmun029 28d ago

Epstein reportedly ended their friendship because Trump was too much of a conman to remain friends with. Trump probably got out of paying or returning favors for all the pedophile services Epstein hooked him up with, the same way Trump doesn’t pay contractors for their services and weasels his way out of paying his own money.

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u/Friendly-Human85 28d ago

They wanted the same 12 year old

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u/Phedis America 28d ago

The falling out, from what I understand, was when Epstein wanted to show Trump a mansion he wanted to buy in Palm Beach (if I remember correctly). After touring the mansion Trump went behind Epstein’s back and outbid him for the property paying $40 million. Apparently during this time Trump was in dire straights financially and couldn’t actually afford the property. According to the story a Russian oligarch fronted Trump the money. Trump sold the property two years later to the oligarch for $95 million. Not sure the begging the scenes reasoning for all that. Money laundering or financial fraud of some sort I guess. I can’t remember if it was Epstein telling the story or a reporter or biographer.

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u/TheChildrensStory 28d ago

The version I heard was that the split was over a property Epstein wanted to buy. He showed Donald the property, Donald went around him and bought it himself, then flipped it to a Russian for a lot more.

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u/vehiclestars 28d ago

Republicans are fine with that:

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Dennis Hastert served as Republican Speaker of the House (so, 3rd in line for the Presidency) for all 8 years of W. Bush’s two terms. He also sexually molested at least 5 boys when he was a HS wrestling coach, all of them underage with the youngest victim being 14. The victims only finally saw justice when Hastert was caught by the FBI trying to falsify payments for hush money.

Donald Trump walked into Miss Teen USA change rooms with girls as young as 14 changing. 26 women have spoken publicly about Trump’s pattern of sexual assault. In 2023, he was found legally liable for the rape of E. Jean Carroll by unanimous jury.

Anton “Tony” Lazzaro, a former Republican donor and political strategist from Minnesota, was convicted in March 2023 on federal charges of sex trafficking minors. He was found guilty of conspiring to recruit and pay teenage girls, aged 15 and 16, for sex between May and December 2020. In August 2023, Lazzaro was sentenced to 21 years in prison for these offenses.Prior to his arrest, Lazzaro was a prominent figure in Minnesota Republican circles, donating over $270,000 to various Republican campaigns and political committees. His indictment led to significant turmoil within the Minnesota Republican Party, culminating in the resignation of then-party chair Jennifer

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 28d ago

Why are Republicans so obsessed with children’s bodies? Is that why they keep attacking trans rights? They’re obsessed with children’s genitals and made up a crisis by scapegoating people who just want privacy and healthcare?

We should be leading every trans rights defense by accusing Republicans of being obsessed with children’s genitals and protecting child sex traffickers.

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u/33drea33 28d ago

YES. And not just that.

  • It's why they attack sex education in schools - they don't want children to be aware of their bodies or able to understand and talk about what is being done to them.
  • It's why they are anti-abortion. Forcing women to birth unwanted children creates a pipeline of vulnerable children to abuse. Same goes for cutting social aid. They don't WANT happy and healthy kids from stable homes, because those kids are harder to abuse.
  • It's why they fight to protect child marriage and to lower the age of consent.
  • It's why they voted for a man who bragged about grabbing women by the genitals, and why they have no problem defending and supporting the MANY Republican predators and the ones who lead their churches.

The Republican party and everything they stand for is in service of ABUSING LITTLE KIDS, and always has been. They protect these predators because THEY ARE PREDATORS.

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u/Simple-Spirit-9958 28d ago

Repedokkkans?  Republophiles? The "right" in the ass crowd? Yup. That's them.

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u/33drea33 28d ago

Guardians Of Pedophiles

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u/phequeue 28d ago

People who are confused or ignorant are more gullible and more easily manipulated. It's about control over weaker minds. It's also why they dehumanize and belittle progressives in general and why their victory laps are so obnoxious. They've achieved their only true goal, gaining control over us. Actual progress is far down the list of priorities.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago

creates a pipeline of vulnerable children to abuse.

And cheap labor, because desperate people work for scraps and don't defend themselves when bosses abuse them.

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u/DrawThink2526 28d ago

I’m a lifelong Democrat—if there are also Democrats on Epstein’s client list, all parties be damned—lock them ALL UP!!!

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u/33drea33 28d ago

Yeah, of course. I am always confused why this needs to be stated outright. This should be the baseline assumption. 

But it is sort of giving me whiplash to see the left - derided for its "cancel culture" for so many years by the right - suddenly be framed as the ones who protect predators. Like ya'll have done nothing but complain about how we're ruining these nice predators' lives.

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u/Vyzantinist Arizona 28d ago

Why are Republicans so obsessed with children’s bodies?

I mean, their ideology encourages them to specifically target young girls. No shade to you or anyone else, but I don't know why people aren't connecting the dots here.

Their ideology fetishizes 'pure', young, virgin girls. One of their talking heads said something like 16 is too old. If you read between the lines of their manosphere bs the ultimate 'prize' is essentially a girl barely out of school who they can groom into being a shy, submissive, breeder until they get bored with her and kick her out for a younger model. Rinse and repeat.

It's why they awkwardly shuffle their feet in silence when yet another Republican gets busted for diddling a kid and in large part why they're shrugging over the idea Trump might have too. They don't see it as a bad thing if a grown-ass man raped a girl 1, 2, 3 years under the age of consent because their ideology has been telling them for years that's a good thing.

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u/Beasil 28d ago

Yeah, another reminder that one of the no-brainer moral axioms that the Bible doesn't address at all is that it's profoundly unethical to sexually exploit children.

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u/thrwawayyourtv 28d ago edited 28d ago

I've read some interesting material suggesting that at least some of the mentions of homosexuality in the Bible are more likely than not mistranslations of passages that are actually against an adult having sex with (raping) a child.

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u/jankenpoo California 28d ago

It’s obvious why. Because they are weak. To the core. Children are easy prey. If they had an ounce of game they would go after people their own age but they gone none. Zero. That’s why they also want to take away women’s rights. Because they are too weak to see women as equals. Irrationally terrified of a strong woman.

They’re absolute bullies because that’s the best they can do. Those are their role models. Other weak bullies. It’s really sad, actually. But this won’t last. It never does.

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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 28d ago

Oh man, imagine that they sexually abuse a boy who later is trans and transitions to being a girl/woman! How disgusting that they abused a girl and not a real boy! /s

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago

Conservatives lay in bed at night picturing the genitals of children they know.

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u/designerfx 27d ago

they're obsessed with children's bodies and childrens' genitals because that's what they want to interact with, sexually. It's never had any other meaning at any time.

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u/Opposite-Bit6660 24d ago

Exactly.  Pressure girls to be virgins at marriage so they won't tell that they were raped as girls.  Make any discussion of sexuality or sex "woke" in schools so children are deprived of telling the trusted adults who are their teachers about sexual abuse, exempt entire organizations from being mandated reporters and pretty soon, Republicans will have their child sex utopia.

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u/inflatablefish 28d ago

Republicans simultaneously believe that:

(A) Trump did not rape those kids it was all fake news and paid actors
(B) Even if he did rape those kids it's perfectly legal for him to do so because of the eleventeenth amendment
(C) FUCK YEAH he raped those little kids LIKE A FUCKING BOSS! U-S-A! U-S-A!

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u/Impossible-Hat-8643 28d ago

I want to see democrats too, fuck them all.

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u/Warm_Regrets157 28d ago

There's far more Republicans than Democrats that have been implicated in sexual abuse cases.

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u/Impossible-Hat-8643 28d ago edited 28d ago

Not doubting that, but somehow how I knew this would be the response. Don’t care how many of each, I want them all out on blast.

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u/Royal-Pay9751 28d ago

Lists like that will only really do their job if they cover both parties.

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u/LirdorElese 28d ago

There's far more Republicans than Democrats that have been implicated in sexual abuse cases.

Oh 100% agreed. but also why IMO it needs to be a comprehensive list... showing the 99% republicans 1% democrats or whatever the hell the ratio is to show we aren't ignoring the guilty democrats, because if they know we aren't including them, then they will just make up that there must be even more of them then there are republicans.

(now admitted, many will have the cognative dissonance, either claim that the republicans are just the ones that got caught, or that most of them were false accused or whatever BS, but still more truth is better).

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u/JuliaChildsRoastBeef 28d ago

I love this, and I don’t want you to stop posting it.

However I think it would be most effective if we listed all democrats too. This is a bipartisan issue, and we should be framing it that way, deterring against the “their side is worse” mentality and unifying behind the “all pedophiles are bad” mentality.

Again, don’t get me wrong. History shows that republicans are complicit. However let’s show we want to take down all sides of pedos and not just the other sides.

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u/vehiclestars 28d ago

  1. Even though republicans go around claiming all democrats are pedos they have never made a site that has convicted democrat pedos on it.

  2. The biggest list I can find is 50 but it includes Harvey Winestine, Epstein and Donald Trump.

So theres a huge difference in the two side and Republicans of course won’t back up anything they say with evidence.

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u/SpearsAndFangs 28d ago

Holy shit the list just literally kept going

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u/Fast_Walrus_8692 28d ago

I wish some of these did not use sanitized language. It's not "had sex or sexual relations with an underaged girl/boy." It's "raped a child."

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u/not-my-fault-alt 28d ago

Thank you for continuing to put this forward. At the risk of advancing the "both sides are equally bad" I think it is important to note that there are a number of creepy Democrats as well. All p*d*philes need to be held accountable, regardless of the letter next to their names.

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u/Background-Car4969 28d ago

U writing a novel 😂 

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u/vehiclestars 28d ago

It would be the most disturbing novel ever published.

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u/reddit_user_2345 28d ago

Also, Trump wanted Matt Getz as Attorney General:

"In 2020, Gaetz was accused of child sex trafficking and statutory rape.lal After an investigation, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) decided not to charge him. In December 2024, the House Ethics Committee released a report which found evidence that Gaetz paid for sex-including with a 17-year-old- and abused illegal drugs during his tenure in the U.S. House of Representatives. The committee report did not find sufficient evidence that he had engaged in sex trafficking as defined in federal

On November 13, 2024, President-elect Donald Trump announced he would nominate Gaetz to serve as United States attorney general, which some Senate Republicans received poorly. Upon Trump's announcement, Gaetz resigned from the House of Representatives. A week later, he withdrew himself from consideration for the post of attorney general. Though he had already won re-election to the 119th United States Congress, he submitted a letter of resignation prior to the swearing in. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Gaetz

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u/yoshhash 27d ago

Wow, nice list! I’m borrowing this for the next time someone tries to use the “party of family values “ bullshit on me.

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u/DruidMaster 26d ago

This makes me physically ill. 

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u/NOLA-Bronco 28d ago

A reminder that Jean Luc Brunel is the forgotten co-conspirator in all this

Someone that also died under unusual circumstances, ruled a suicide, while awaiting trial in France.

Where charges had been brought that amongst other key points, he used modeling agencies along with Epstein to recruit and traffic woman for the operation.

Virginia Giuffre(who was also the person in the famous Prince Andrew picture with Epstein) was the star witness.

Giuffre, who was first approached by Maxwell/Epstein at the age of 14, at a private club the two spent a lot of time at and used to recruit many young girls. That place was Mar a Lago. Where Giuffre's father was hired on as a maintenance worker and Virginia was hired to work at the spa as an attendant.

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u/Purify5 28d ago

Should be noted that Giuffre also died by suicide.

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u/NOLA-Bronco 28d ago

Yep, I actually feel a need to somewhat censor how much I put into posts because it is one of those things that when you simply put up too many of the facts it sounds conspiratorial to the lay person reading it.

But yeah. She was hit by another car and committed suicide when she was given only a few days to live.

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u/GullibleWineBar 28d ago

The accident and her death were about a month apart. It's possible that the accident and her death are related, however. Her life is a difficult story all around with a very sad ending.

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u/NoMoreFund 28d ago

I would actually believe that the car accident derailed her way of coping with the trauma and it was too much for her 

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u/GullibleWineBar 28d ago

She wasn't making very positive statements after the accident. I hope she's found peace.

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u/AntoniaFauci 28d ago

The “only given a few days to live” part isn’t really accurate. Yes I know she posted that but it’s not really accurate. Doesn’t change the overall tragic nature of one of the most prominent Trump-Epstein victims, but we should value accuracy and evidence here even if conservatives and some do not.

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u/Purify5 28d ago

There are really a lot of crazy links.

For instance, Trump's current commerce secretary Howard Lutnick was Epstein's New York neighbor for two decades.

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u/handsoapdispenser 28d ago

Giuffre worked the spa at Mar-a-Lago and was recruited from that spa. Trump knew he was "stealing" his workers and he knew how much he liked young women for years.

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u/Aman_Syndai 28d ago

Jean-Luc Brunel was found hanged in his cell in La Santé prison at 01:00 on Saturday, prosecutors told the BBC.

Sound familiar?

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u/33drea33 28d ago

Virginia Giuffre "committed suicide" in April. Her parents say the circumstances are suspect.

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u/ApprehensiveSpeechs Colorado 28d ago

It makes too much sense that the pageants were a front. Especially when another partner of Epstien was Jean-Luc Bruner who did the same thing with a modeling agency.

... and he suspiciously died in 2022.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/19/jean-luc-brunel-held-on-suspicion-of-supplying-girls-to-epstein-found-hanged

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u/BCMakoto Europe 28d ago

Okay, so Epstein pleading three amendments was pointless and the answer to the question of whether he at any point socialized with Trump around underaged females is "yes."

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u/General_Nose_691 28d ago

This! Her testimony and Epstein's lack of an answer to that question clearly points to Epstein and Trump "socializing" in the presence of minors.

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u/AE7VL_Radio 28d ago

Which would make him pleading those amendments definitely NOT "pointless"

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u/Difficult-Slice-2873 28d ago

Taking into account this statement and what Trump himself has already said, this Miss Teen was a cattle parade for predators to choose their next victim.

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u/luppup 28d ago

Victoria’s Secret as well. Modeling in general for that matter. Just a collection of beautiful, isolated girls looking to build a career

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u/bishpa Washington 28d ago

Don't forget Mike Jeffries, former CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch.

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u/aradraugfea 28d ago

So Trump isn’t a client, he’s a supplier. (Who received ‘payment in kind.’)

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u/iamnobody19944 28d ago

It is so obvious what all of this is. They were all buddies, they all owned modelling agencies, they all moved women using visa loopholes, they all were billionaires, they all have a history of allegations of sexual abuse, some of them were convicted (Jean Luc Brunel), they owned beauty pageants.

For people who jumped on any conspiracy, the right should have no problem connecting the dots here

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u/tippycanoeyoucan2 28d ago

It's so obvious it's almost insulting, trafficing in plain sight and calling it a modeling contest. Now, think about what the organizers of the child pageants are up to.

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u/Funkycoldmedici 28d ago

If you wanted to rape minors, what would be the most efficient way to do it? Establish a pageant, let the parents bring the victims to you. Even more convenient, who puts their kid in such a pageant? People who are ok with that behavior, people willing to overlook abuse, even encourage their kid to play along.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago

That's legitimately how they did it. They found the girls from vulnerable families without much money, and offered the parents some cash and told them their daughter was accepted into an elite intern program where the girls stay in house, on the other side of the country or world from their family. Oh, and they'll be very busy with all the exciting opportunities, so they won't be calling home much, or at all.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago

The teen girl modeling agency as well. Easy way to traffick easter European girls and get them visas. Those girls also don't speak English and aren't familiar with American laws and rights.

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u/Korzag 28d ago

The fact Trump never got scrutiny for the fact that women were reporting that he would walk into the dressing rooms before these shows blows my mind at how corrupt the media is for this guy. He should have never made it past "grab them by the pussy" but here we are.

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u/luppup 28d ago

The elephant in the room imo is that the only reason he’s getting heat is because kids are involved

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u/vandreulv 28d ago

The only reason he's getting heat now is because he promised to release the Epstein client list to right wing podcasters and talking heads so they could scour the list for Democrat names for them to attack.

Not ONE single MAGA cares if Republicans are on the list.

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u/Successful-Ad-847 28d ago

The comment about walking in the dressing room WAS about minors. Ms TEEN USA contestants are teens, the majority of which being younger than 18.

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u/Deceptiveideas 28d ago

Thanks James Comey.

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u/jzanville 28d ago

That’s been insultingly obvious for a very long time.

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u/Acrobatic_Morning17 28d ago

And it was Ghislaine Maxwell doing the actual trafficking. She was instrumental in facilitating Epsteins operations and her father worked for Mossad. Unsurprisingly, Israel gets whatever it wants from Trump.

Trump has been credited to be in honeypot-related hold for a foreign power and I think the name of that foreign power has been projected somewhere else for convenience.

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u/da2Pakaveli 28d ago

Maybe the golden shower actually happened at Epstein's

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u/CannonAFB_unofficial 28d ago

This is why he's so defensive, for some reason I didn't put two and two together that his pageants were the mechanism to traffic, why his name was circled as an apparent ringleader, and why he says Epstein took "people" from him.

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u/fleurgirl123 28d ago

Yes. To paraphrase the old “hair club for men” commercials, “He’s not just a member, he’s the president.”

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u/barefootcuntessa_ 28d ago

I wonder if she was one of the minor teenaged girls he walked in on while she was changing.

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u/Splitfingers Minnesota 28d ago

Gasp! The groomers were inside the White House this entire time!

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 28d ago edited 28d ago

Makes sense, they never actually care about this shit.

For all of conservatives obsession with the half gram of cocaine found at the white house enterence and drug trafficking they sure didn't give a fuck that trumps private quack doctor ran the white house pharmacy like a candy store and handed out baggies of mixed uppers and downers to any staffers who came by, including fentanyl.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/

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u/puterdood Missouri 28d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell

This is her father. He was an international spy and arms smuggler to Israel during the Nakba.

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u/tasticle 28d ago

Trump survivor

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u/Snoo-11861 28d ago

Yep! He was using his modeling agencies and pageants to traffic them. 

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u/msevilalexanova 28d ago

imagine the strength it takes to share this publicly, knowing the backlash and power dynamics involved. i hope she gets protection, peace and justice

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u/wowlock_taylan 28d ago

So not only a rapist but also a sex trafficker too.

Orange fascists' crimes are just adding up and something has to be done about it.

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u/GreenHeretic 28d ago

Almost like there was a supplier/financier partnership going on.

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u/Electronic-Clue6184 28d ago

"Jane," a pseudonym, is one of the few Epstein survivors who has said publicly that she met Trump through Epstein."

"Jane said she took part in the pageant in 1998, but it wasn't clear whether that was before or after the Mar-a-Lago introduction."

Jumping to conclusions doesn't help anyone, especially when its clearly wrong.

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u/kitsunewarlock 28d ago

And the fact she's saying this in public about someone who abuses libelous lawsuits and he refuses to take her to court says volumes.

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u/reddit_user_2345 28d ago

"Jane was one of two victims from Florida to take the stand. The other, Carolyn Andriano, 36, of Wellington was found dead a year after Maxwell's sentencing from an accidental drug overdose in a West Palm Beach hotel room. At least one juror said he found her testimony so compelling that it helped lead the group to a guilty verdict."

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