Trump says he will sign order targeting mail-in ballots, voting machines ahead of 2026 elections

[u/Iamjacksplasmid]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-sign-order-targeting-mail-in-ballots-voting-machines-ahead-2025-08-18/

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[u/AdAgitated7673]

Elections are a state function. Time for the 10th Amendment.

[u/Pockydo → u/AdAgitated7673]

His argument is the states are an agent of the fed so they need to listen

States rights people where you at

[u/LeonardoDePinga → u/Pockydo]

It was never about voting. It was always about hate.

[u/DigNitty → u/LeonardoDePinga]

100%

It’s why they stand behind Kim Davis, the law clerk who wouldn’t let two gay men get a marriage license because it violated “the sanctity of marriage.” She’s been divorced three times and cheated on her husbands. MAGA stands behind her because they can accept cheating and multiple wives (see Trump) but being gay suddenly “violate the sanctity of marriage.”

It’s about hate.

Multiple conservative states have had bills proposed to ban trans people from public bathrooms in case they are sexual predators.

But there have been zero bills proposed to ban actual sex offenders from bathrooms.

It’s about Hate.

[u/Chirotera → u/DigNitty]

Honestly? I'm sick of the why. Tired of it. Every time these shits do something people only talk about the reasoning for it. Like we're trying to rationalize abhorrent behavior to soften the blow of it. I don't care what their reasoning is. It's hate, great.

It needs to be stopped at all costs. We're past the point of trying to placate and play nice to a bunch of selfish, misogynistic, racist, hate filled ignorant assholes. They can have any reason they want.

How do we stop them?

[u/Key-Routine4237 → u/Chirotera]

The how has become a thought crime. You know the answer. We know the answer. Websites like this one sensor the answer.

[u/Strange-Parfait-8801 → u/Key-Routine4237]

They censor the answer from one side. Conservatives are allowed to demand murder and violence all day every day. Hell, multiple domestic terrorists were directly radicalized by conservative subreddits on this very website. No one steps in to stop that.

But if a progressive or a leftist so much as mentions smashing a CVS window, instant [removed by reddit].

[u/benjtay → u/Strange-Parfait-8801]

100%

The conservative subreddits are awash with stories of illegals committing traffic crimes. This is their happy place.

[u/IDreamOfLoveLost → u/Strange-Parfait-8801]

A lot of Conservatives don't realize that saying that the US should invade Canada is advocating for violence, which is against the site's rules. I've been reporting every comment to the Reddit admins, and a certain larger Conservative subreddit was given a warning for allowing these comments to be posted without removal.

It's something at least.

[u/Zananlol → u/IDreamOfLoveLost]

Yeah, I still think a lot of the US doesn't realize how damaging this talk was towards international relations. Canadians themselves were asking what the fuck and why and the rest of the world has just watched the US become an unreliable partner and ally over the last year.

[u/Visible_Fact_8706 → u/Strange-Parfait-8801]

I caught a 3 day ban for suggesting those big dictator photo banners of him get spray painted. I successfully appealed it but I’ve seen worse things posted on this site not get auto banned.

[u/SpezIsALittleBitch → u/Strange-Parfait-8801]

Plumbing intensifies.

[u/joeysflipphone → u/Strange-Parfait-8801]

You better not even mention Mario's handsome plumber brother.

[u/Andurilthoughts → u/DigNitty]

Banning anyone from using a public restroom makes no sense. For one thing there’s no way to enforce it, and on top of that it’s moronic. Especially when it comes to trans people because all that will accomplish beyond horrible bigotry is ensuring a bunch of cis women who don’t match conservative standards of femininity will get attacked for doing nothing wrong. It’s already happened.

[u/beamrider → u/Andurilthoughts]

99% of the time when they scream about a trans woman (or 'really a man!', as they put it) wins in a sporting event, it's really a cis woman with short hair and a small chest.

If a woman doesn't look immediately conventionally sexy enough for a MAGA male to fantasize about having sex with, she's an abomination that shouldn't exist, I guess.

[u/Delta-9- → u/beamrider]

MAGA males are the number one consumer of trans porn.

Sometimes the problem is that they do find someone sexy, but they feel like they're not supposed to, or they're so egocentric that they think their boner means whatever has them at attention must be too sexy to be in public. This is why P2025 trying to classify LGBT people's very existence as pornographic isn't merely a legislative expedient: they actually can't separate sex from "trans/homosexuality" in their minds. They get aroused every time a woman who looks like she could have a penis walks by.

[u/kos-or-kosm → u/Andurilthoughts]

bunch of cis women who don’t match conservative standards of femininity will get attacked

"Yeah, it's a win-win!" - conservatives

[u/PathOfTheAncients → u/Andurilthoughts]

Conservatives don't just hate trans people. They hate anyone who doesn't conform to their traditional social hierarchy. Enforcing all gender norms is their goal and punishing those who transgress them enforces the hierarchy.

[u/Indaflow → u/LeonardoDePinga]

I mean, it was about stopping legitimate voting. 

[u/Friendly-Profit-8590 → u/Indaflow]

It’s about impeding voting in blue areas

[u/Exotic-Cobbler4111 → u/Friendly-Profit-8590]

Its just about winning. Whatever needs to be done for that outcome.

[u/[deleted] → u/Exotic-Cobbler4111]

The United States is broken.

[u/Chiepmate → u/[deleted]]

• has been broken for a long time. Unless you're a billionaire. Then it works as designed.

[u/zippyphoenix → u/LeonardoDePinga]

I wouldn’t say it’s solely hate, there’s also power and greed.

[u/Revelati123 → u/LeonardoDePinga]

"States rights people where you at"

Lol, no silly, we are hypocrites we want that shit for us, not for you!

[u/SadFeed63 → u/Pockydo]

Second amendment, "I need my gun to stop government tyranny" people, where you at?

(Pleasuring themselves thinking that Trump will only hurt their enemies and not them)

[u/Pantone802 → u/SadFeed63]

Oh you left off the rest of the sentence, they call it the quiet part…

“I need my gun to stop government tyranny _from giving groups of people I don’t like the same rights I already have and take for granted._”

[u/CknHwk → u/Pantone802]

They would have made this country Swiss cheese if a dem president was doing everything their “chosen one” is doing.

[u/bjs-penn → u/SadFeed63]

The “don’t tread on me” crowd sure are quite.

[u/Whodisbehere → u/bjs-penn]

They are Quite the little quiet mouse, aren’t they?

[u/kia75 → u/Pockydo]

There are no States ' Rights people. There are people who know they can't win federally so they try to change the battleground to either the states or to local government, but they don't truly believe in State or Local Government. This is why Republican governments oppose California's anti-pollution protocols despite it being a "state right", even as they affirm Texas's same right to allow pollution, and why things like Gay marriage and abortion are "states' rights" issues until Republicans gain control of the government, then they become national issues.

[u/judgejuddhirsch → u/kia75]

Someone figured it out.

Win no matter what. Say whatever needs to be said. Have no principles

[u/Vincent__Vega → u/judgejuddhirsch]

Turns out Republicans are big Eddie Guerrero fans. "Lie, Cheat, Steal"

[u/InVultusSolis → u/kia75]

It's a very flimsy attempt to seem like they're applying principles consistently but even under the smallest amount of scrutiny they are not.

[u/Wealist → u/kia75]

Yeah, states rights has always been a pick n choose slogan. They scream about local control when it’s Texas oil regs, but the second California tries clean air standards or Vermont legalizes weed suddenly it’s federal overreach.

It’s never about principle, just power.

[u/DocQuanta → u/kia75]

They put forward these principles as a way of covering their actual beliefs.

It is easier to defend States' rights than slavery or segregation.

Small government is easier to defend than opposing labor rights, environmental regulation or consumer protection.

Fiscal conservatism instead of loathing the poor and wanting the obscenely wealthy to be just that bit more wealthy.

[u/Minute-Individual-74 → u/Pockydo]

Asking states rights Republicans to be principled and ethical? Must be new here.

[u/[deleted] → u/Pockydo]

You mean the entire base of the GOP that used to scream about states rights at every opportunity but have surrendered all principles to their pedophile daddy?

[u/look_under → u/[deleted]]

Jokes on you

They never had any principles.

[u/[deleted] → u/Pockydo]

'States Rights' is important, but was mostly used selectively as a racist dogwhistle, so I wouldn't count on them to do the right thing. It's not in their character.

[u/Coachrags → u/Pockydo]

They never were for states rights, just like everything else they pretend to stand for.

[u/MissionCreeper → u/AdAgitated7673]

"Oh, your Republican governor and state legislature are going along with this and using Trump's order as coverage?  Since they're OK with it,  we here at SCOTUS don't believe you have standing.  The state has to bring the suit."

[u/ScoobiusMaximus → u/MissionCreeper]

A Democratic state would bring the suit. In fact probably every Democratic state would.

Then SCOTUS will just declare the 10th amendment unconstitutional 

[u/Particular_Ad_1435 → u/ScoobiusMaximus]

Serious question: how can you call a part of the constitution unconstitutional? Isn't it by definition constitutional?

[u/ethertrace → u/Particular_Ad_1435]

They don't do it that directly. They simply say that it doesn't mean what it plainly says. They torture the language into confessing what they want to hear.

[u/Issue_dev → u/ethertrace]

They do that with their religion every Sunday. They’re professionals at it now

[u/ScoobiusMaximus → u/Particular_Ad_1435]

Ask the right wing side of SCOTUS, it wouldn't even be the first time. They declared that the first half of the second amendment has no meaning already. 

[u/ImNoRickyBalboa → u/MissionCreeper]

Exactly this.

[u/notbobby125 → u/AdAgitated7673]

There is a provision that Congress can step in to mandate changes as well. Do note that Congress is not the President alone, and even this Supreme Court would have to reach so far up its ass it would find its own tongue to misinterpret that as the Constitution clearly defines Congress as “ of a Senate and House of Representative.” If the Supreme Court somehow does give the White House a pass on this, which it better fucking not but who knows, we are officially in the “I am the Senate (and House of Representatives)” stage.

[u/buckeyefan8001 → u/notbobby125]

Yup. Article 1, section 4. “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.” (Emphasis added).

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-3/ALDE_00013640/

[u/Siaten → u/AdAgitated7673]

That was proven false by the SCOTUS, when they told a state that they can't remove Trump from their ballots after the state court found he wasn't eligible.

[u/Gaius_Octavius_ → u/Siaten]

They said they can't remove TRUMP. They never said they can't remove Democrats will be the logic.

[u/123-Moondance → u/AdAgitated7673]

He signed an EO saying it is now a federal function. Not legal. Not yet made it's way to the SCOTUS. But SCOTUS has been ruling in his favor and against the constitution or precedent in almost all of their recent cases.

[u/Violet-Journey → u/AdAgitated7673]

Yeah, I’m sure if we take him to court and have a judge say “you’re not allowed to do that” he’ll just stop and go “gosh, I guess I can’t do that”.

[u/SammyLocked → u/[deleted]]

Hell, can't even vote while in the country. Does he think that military personnel just go back to the state they vote in when not deployed?

[u/HeyItsTheShanster → u/[deleted]]

Spouses, too. I’m glad I changed my residence to my husbands so I can drive 7 hours to vote instead of flying 10+ hours. Joy 😑

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/[deleted]]

No voting for anyone. The "and expensive voting machines" addendum means they'll also be implementing in-person voting changes that will compromise that process as well.

[u/KoalaBoy → u/Iamjacksplasmid]

Probably have to use trump branded voting machines.

[u/thefatchef321 → u/KoalaBoy]

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

Check this out. Awesome read. Scary as shit

[u/LrdCheesterBear → u/thefatchef321]

Just want to say thanks for sharing. I've seen a lot of this data presented/discussed separately, but having a lot of it compiled in one spot makes it much more convincing for anyone who is paying attention. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, the only major conspiracy I buy into is Bigfoot and Nessie (but that's mostly because I want it to be true) and I've been talking about the election being rigged since early January when voting data started becoming widely "confirmed" and available.

Trying to convince other people just makes me seem like I'm being hypocritical, because I was a big proponent of "it wasn't rigged" during the previous election cycle. I realize now, it was rigged of course, just not hard enough to guarantee a win like the most recent one. Hindsight 20/20, right?

[u/JustTestingAThing → u/LrdCheesterBear]

There's a part 2 and 3, if you're up for more:

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-ii-seven-judges-direct

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-iii-the-devil-is-in

[u/thefatchef321 → u/LrdCheesterBear]

I've been trying to live my life through an 'occams razor' lens. If Elon, theil, Leonard Leo, Trump and company, and putin - could all plan an authoritarian takeover of the US - would they?

In an interveiw 6 months ago, Elon laughed at being called the richest man on earth. He replied, "im not near as rich as putin"

If putin had leverage over right-wing leaders and had the ability to break the US, would he?

Russia has been playing the long game since the Berlin wall. The US has been degraded intellectually for decades. The right-wing disinformation machine combined with completely unregulated social media access birthed the maga movement.

This was always the endgame. Putin is a hell of a chess player.

[u/ButtEatingContest → u/LrdCheesterBear]

Trying to convince other people just makes me seem like I'm being hypocritical, because I was a big proponent of "it wasn't rigged" during the previous election cycle.

Only to the simple-minded. Anyone paying attention knows that Trump's accusations are confessions.

[u/garbagepillar → u/LrdCheesterBear]

Its the old Wolf dressed as a Boy who cries Wolf trick. Screech about obviously not stolen elections for 10 years, making it completely implausible for any election denying to be taken seriously going forward, opening the door to walk right in and steal an election.

[u/InVultusSolis → u/thefatchef321]

The other problem I never see addressed is that, even if we had 100% irrefutable confirmation where any idiot could agree that the election was rigged, what do we actually do? Everything Trump has done so far can't really be unwound. There's no legal remedy to remove him from office other than impeachment. The faith in the US election system will be cooked. And no one is stopping Trump now, so who is going to stop him going forward?

It'll be a big fat constitutional crisis. Do we re-hold a special national election? Like, the constitution has zero instructions to remedy this problem.

Also, regardless of if it was rigged or not, this article should show EVERYONE why we should not be using machines at all to count votes. Pen and paper, or maybe a punchcard, is the most sophisticated technology I trust.

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/InVultusSolis]

My brother in Christ...if he rigged the election, the solution is that he is not the American president. I'll let you figure out from there what the historical consensus is on what other countries (and this one) have done when somebody who wasn't the president said they were and started giving orders.

[u/Polyporous → u/Iamjacksplasmid]

After January 6th, the election results were set in stone. That's the precedent we're dealing with right now.

The Democrat leadership is NOT willing to go against precedent. Even if they did, they'd be sent to some El Salvadorian gulag so fast it'd make your head spin.

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/Polyporous]

Maybe to preserve democracy, we have to be at least as brave as the people who subverted it.

[u/DigNitty → u/Iamjacksplasmid]

I remember in 2020 when Fox was talking about how insecure mail-in-voting was and how insecure it made Sweden’s elections when they tried it.

[u/cowsintheclosetIG → u/[deleted]]

He used mail in voting!!! Hes a fuckin hypocrite.

Just release the tapes Donald

[u/octowussy → u/cowsintheclosetIG]

He ran ads here in PA during the leadup to the 2024 election where he himself said mail-in voting was safe and secure. It's insane.

[u/Baked_potato123 → u/[deleted]]

Also no voting for California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington.

[u/Sashivna → u/Baked_potato123]

So, I wonder if "drop off boxes" dont' count as mail, so states who send out ballots to return at your leisure during election season will still carry on -- you just wont' be able to send them through the mail.

[u/PoniardBlade → u/Sashivna]

Yeah, I've always filled out my "mail in" voter package and dropped them off at the drop off boxes just a couple days before the election. I'm not trusting it to go through the actual mail.

[u/yourlittlebirdie → u/[deleted]]

There will be some convoluted excuse for why it’s OK for troops overseas to vote but not anyone else.

They don’t care about consistency and never have. They are confident they can get away with doing whatever the hell they want.

[u/Fastluck83]

Geez, spare us the foreplay and just say that you will only accept a victory or you will shit all over America's 250 years old democracy and its institutions like you always do.

[u/RackemFrackem → u/Fastluck83]

We have already known this for 1,685 days and counting.

[u/Excelius → u/RackemFrackem]

Longer than that really.

He was declaring during his first run in 2016 that he would only accept the election results if he won.

Roger Stone had already cued up the "Stop The Steal" movement before the 2016 election. It just ultimately proved unnecessary.

[u/Ralph--Hinkley → u/Excelius]

He still complained it was rigged because he didn't get enough votes even though he was declared the winner.

[u/Waadap → u/Fastluck83]

It's worse than that. Spare us the foreplay and just say you're going to ensure there's no way you can lose and are setting it up to ensure that. A few of my friends said I was over reacting when I voiced a concern that if he won again, free and fair elections were done. Only took 6 months for that to be the case, which was ahead of even my schedule.

[u/ElegantDaemon → u/Waadap]

As Masha Gesson has said on many an occasion, it's no fun being the most hysterical person in the room.

But about this guy, we're always right in the end.

[u/schnitzelfeffer → u/Fastluck83]

I've been thinking about how Trump gets a kick out of fucking his friend's wives:

“Trump liked to say that one of the things that made life worth living was getting your friends’ wives into bed”.

“In pursuing a friend’s wife,” Wolff wrote, “he would try to persuade the wife that her husband was perhaps not what she thought.

“Then he’d have his secretary ask the friend into his office; once the friend arrived, Trump would engage in what was, for him, more or less constant sexual banter.

“‘Do you still like having sex with your wife? How often? You must have had a better f*** than your wife? Tell me about it. I have girls coming in from Los Angeles at three o’clock. We can go upstairs and have a great time. I promise ...’

“All the while, Trump would have his friend’s wife on the speakerphone, listening in.”

Now he's just fucking all of America at once while everyone watches.

[u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

They always wanted to ban mail-in ballots. You can intimidate and harass democrat voters , especially in districts with minority and immigrant populations. ICE standing outside voting booths, asking for your identification "randomly" is the Texas model which GOP & Trump wants in entire country.

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

Mail in ballots "and expensive voting machines"

[u/Ok-Garcia-5605 → u/Iamjacksplasmid]

Let me guess they want to replace these "expensive machines" by new ones made by a company owned by a certain South African billionaire

[u/doityourkels → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

Worse, Trump's daughter Ivanka invested inChinese trademarks for voting machines back in 2018.

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

They want to replace them with watermarked paper ballots, which will make it even harder to audit.

[u/egosomnio → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

Not always. Only since 2020. If COVID didn't happen (and divide the parties like it did), they'd have never turned on it.

Pennsylvania's Republican legislature passed no-excuse absentee voting in 2019. They really liked the idea because the old folks who don't want to (or aren't able to) go stand in line to vote tend to vote for them.

[u/Lolareyouforreal → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

ICE are going to seize drop-off ballot boxes on/before election day, just watch.

He has a gestapo who hide their identity and violently do his bidding regardless of the law, they just got nearly unlimited funding, things are only just starting to get bad folks.

[u/Snrub1]

I can't wait until the day that I no longer have to give a shit about Donald Fucking Trump.

[u/EllieVader → u/Snrub1]

Seriously. I’ve been sick of hearing his fucking voice since 2015. He can’t even control his bowels, why the fuck does he have influence over my life?

[u/specialkk77 → u/Snrub1]

Much like the shitty tv star President that came before him, we will never stop hearing about this asshole and our lives are permanently fucked from the damage he has caused 

[u/UNisopod → u/Snrub1]

Unfortunately that day will never come. He will be revered and idolized even after death in a way that will remain a constant presence for decades.

Sorry, but this level of widespread cult adoption doesn't just evaporate.

[u/vriska1]

Vote in the midterms no matter what.

[u/bohiti → u/vriska1]

For sure. If they’re just going the “intimidate minorities” route without actually throwing out or changing results, this will be our last best opportunity to tell these fuckers what the majority thinks.

[u/ElegantDaemon → u/vriska1]

November 2026 is looking A LOOOONG way away now. I'm not sure we'll make it.

[u/SilentLennie → u/vriska1]

You might have to do more than that

[u/Ancient_Popcorn]

This is not a power he has. The Constitution explicitly reserves voting as a state function. But, who am I kidding? Trump doesn’t let a thing like the law stop him.

[u/Ok-Garcia-5605 → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

Its State's rights only when Democrats are in white house, don't you know

[u/nowtayneicangetinto → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

where are all of the "leave it to the states" republicans on this? They've gone silent since January

[u/SilentLennie → u/nowtayneicangetinto]

They've gone silent since January

2021

[u/Alternative-Target31 → u/Ok-Garcia-5605]

Just like the deficit matters, but only when Democrats are in charge. And civil liberties matter, but only when Democrats are in charge. And the Epstein Files matter, but only when Democrats are in charge. And the military shouldn’t be used as a police force, but only when Democrats are in power. And Executive overreach is a threat to our checks and balances, but only when Democrats are in power. And on and on and on…

[u/alaskaj1 → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

The constitution actually, not just a law.

Article I, Section 4, Clause 1

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The federal government can change a states rules on elections but it must be by an act of congress, not the president.

[u/KoalaBoy → u/alaskaj1]

And this Congress will let the president do what he wants and just nod in approval.

[u/alabasterskim → u/KoalaBoy]

Or they'll never vote on anything to stop him, and he'll claim that failure as Congress assenting to what he's doing.

[u/Thorandragnar → u/KoalaBoy]

Nah. This would require cloture in the Senate, so not going to happen. This wouldn't be something they could get done through reconciliation.

[u/yourlittlebirdie → u/alaskaj1]

This is what’s scary though, because Congress has already ceded their power to the Executive branch. They’ve become just a rubber stamp for Trump and the checks and balances are disintegrating before our eyes.

[u/DigNitty → u/alaskaj1]

Doesn’t matter.

ICE is detaining / deporting people without due process. That’s unconstitutional too and yet there are enough complicit government figures to let it happen.

[u/bbqsox → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

The Constitution also says he can’t be President after his failed insurrection, but here we are. The rules don’t apply to the GOP’s favorite pedophile and human trafficking accomplice.

[u/timmyintransit → u/bbqsox]

And that only Congress can levy tariffs but didn't stop the house from bending the knee(s)

[u/bbqsox → u/timmyintransit]

The whole GOP is some combination of terrified and complicit.

[u/we_are_sex_bobomb → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

Red “pick me” governors will do it voluntarily and blue governors will tell him to go fuck himself. It still has the desired effect of further eroding voting power in the states where MAGA is festering.

[u/sonofagunn → u/we_are_sex_bobomb]

Which is probably what they want. Then, Congress will have an excuse not to certify the votes from the blue states.

[u/thehalfwit → u/sonofagunn]

Then, Congress will have an excuse not to certify the votes from the blue states.

"I'm sorry, but we can't count votes from those states who refuse to pervert the system. Only Republican-approved votes matter."

[u/shawn_overlord → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

that's kinda the problem with the discourse. people have forgotten that this administration doesn't follow laws, but get into the nitty gritty discussion on what laws they're breaking and how awful it is. it's all of them yall, we're long past that

[u/Rude-Strawberry-6360 → u/Ancient_Popcorn]

And the GOP ignores the law when it comes to Trump.

[u/s-17]

You won't have to vote anymore.

[u/Vee8cheS → u/s-17]

“Fix it so good you won’t have to vote anymore.”

[u/Carl-99999 → u/Vee8cheS]

2048: Republicans “””win“”” every senate and house seat for the 10th time in a row!

[u/BoatsMcFloats → u/Vee8cheS]

Just read this posted by someone else in this thread. It spells out clearly how the election was rigged

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

[u/Most-Artichoke6184]

Our current president is just issuing decrees now, and 90% of Republicans have absolutely no problem with this.

[u/Naptasticly → u/Most-Artichoke6184]

That’s what he’s been doing this entire time.

I was on a debate live that was me versus 5 MAGAt sycophants. The topic had gotten to the homeless population and they were trying to say how donald trump is putting more money into “HELPING” the homeless get the services and help they need.

I proved to them with a specific section of the OBBB that trump had passed legislation that would REDUCE funding for homeless services.

Their answer? That doesn’t matter because trump passed an executive order that “gave more funding to the programs anyway”

It blew my mind that someone who is arguing a topic as if they are the expert didn’t even understand that EOs 1. Do not have the power to give funding. That is done by congress and 2. If it involves parts of the government that the president doesn’t have power to control it’s not legally binding. It’s treated as advice.

They ended up kicking me. Lol

[u/Keleos89 → u/Naptasticly]

MAGAts are not known for understanding evidence or having civic knowledge. I know a guy that claimed that Trump did not have criminal convictions. When I showed him the articles proving otherwise, with the 34 counts, he denounced the source as being "too far left." Having

[u/mudflap21]

Ahh right… find 11,780 votes. Impeach and jail him.

[u/Choice-Bus-1177 → u/mudflap21]

Biden administration should’ve thrown him in Jail and kept him there. They had 4 fucking years. Nothing sticking? His lawyers too good? Fuck it. Make something up. Pay his lawyers off. That’s exactly what he would do.

[u/128-NotePolyVA]

Because Putin told him so.

Epstein Files.

[u/Brief-Whole692]

Completely unamerican. Unacceptable. Get him out now.

[u/Troll_in_the_Knoll]

"WE WILL BEGIN THIS EFFORT, WHICH WILL BE STRONGLY OPPOSED BY THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY CHEAT AT LEVELS NEVER SEEN BEFORE, by signing an EXECUTIVE ORDER to help bring HONESTY to the 2026 Midterm Elections,"

Hey Donald, that couldn't be projection? Could it?

[u/Churrasco_fan → u/Troll_in_the_Knoll]

Democrats cheated so hard they lost the house, senate, and semi-incumbant presidency. Of course that makes perfect sense

[u/soapinthepeehole → u/Churrasco_fan]

They also cheated so hard that Donald Trump and his minions were never able to provide a single verifiable piece of evidence showing the cheating.

[u/NoCoffee6754 → u/Troll_in_the_Knoll]

So much cheating that the Dems keep losing in the races that matter… funny that huh?

[u/kalidorisconan]

We told you, we fucking told you this was the plan the whole time. supress the vote so they can cheat their way in to power forever. Christian Nationalists, Magats and Republicans will destroy this country for the next 20 years. Please call your senators and house reps and scream this outrage folks, do no go quitely.

This is the most unconstitutional executive order that has he done so far. He wants to take away your vote because he won't win the midterms and he knows it, so the only way is to rig the fucking game.

[u/CLM1919]

I can't believe I'm living through this.

I've lost any remaining faith in the GOP. I hope they NEVER gain a majority again in government - where are the principles they claim to hold dear? Oh, right, the Tea Party crushed any candidates that had integrity.

Just because I disagree with policies of one person or another doesn't mean I can't also have respect for them...but the current GOP doesn't have any "currency" left - I just assume the prince of lies is whispering through their mouths, it's what they've EARNED.

P.S. release the Epstein files like you PROMISED G.O.P.!!!

[u/InVultusSolis → u/CLM1919]

where are the principles they claim to hold dear

They never had principles other than "we want power".

[u/paolilon]

Trump leaves meeting with Putin…immediately starts an effort to repress democracy in the US.

[u/No_Statistician_7978 → u/paolilon]

*immediately ramps up the effort - it was already started in 2020 leading up to Jan 6, at the very least

[u/kuulmonk]

So he definitely got his orders and advice from Putin in Alaska.

No mail-in voting, so fewer people can vote due to taking time off work, and hard to get to polling places. Voting machines gone, hand counting only, which will lead to more mistakes and a longer time for results to be known. Gives them more time to file complaints etc.

State deadlines for results will probably not be long enough, which could mean lots of votes not being counted at all. I am sure the Republicans will push a lot of money into their state's election counting, but try and stop Blue states from doing the same.

So much for the states having control over their election processes.

[u/TranquilSeaOtter]

"Remember, the States are merely an “agent” for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do," Trump wrote.

He thinks he's a dictator.

[u/blues111 → u/TranquilSeaOtter]

Thinks? He is one

Also party of small government strikes again

[u/Slow_Control_867 → u/blues111]

Can't get much smaller than just one guy

[u/themattboard → u/TranquilSeaOtter]

He is a dictator. Until congress or the courts do something differently, he is a dictator.

[u/Iamjacksplasmid → u/TranquilSeaOtter]

You only think you're a dictator if someone corrects you. If nobody corrects you, you are a dictator.

[u/TaxComprehensive2894 → u/TranquilSeaOtter]

He is a dictator and has been since Day One. He made great on his promise to be dictator on Day One.

[u/Vermiethepally]

I live overseas…if I cannot vote I’m never paying my taxes again

[u/jtrail13 → u/Vermiethepally]

I 100% agree! Want to take away my right to vote then I take away money they shouldn’t be getting from me anyway.

[u/thecrunchypepperoni]

Mail-in voting has been his biggest enemy since it cost him the 2020 election. He genuinely thought he had gotten away with something until he realized he couldn’t manipulate the data from mail-in votes.

[u/soapinthepeehole → u/thecrunchypepperoni]

In this post he once again talks about democrats cheating at levels never before seen, while spending over five years failing to provide any evidence of cheating in elections, and losing something like 70 lawsuits.

But he’s continuing to poison the well, calling both mail-in and voting machines dangerous…

He really doesn’t want more elections.

Something something clear and present danger…

[u/apaluqo]

Second. American. Revolution. Let’s fucking go.

[u/MissTetraHyde → u/apaluqo]

If the election doesn't happen fairly and if he even tries a 3rd term...

[u/Duke_Phelan → u/apaluqo]

I was literally saying this sort of thing to myself this weekend. "Hey all you 2nd Amendment people - where are you now?"

[u/SinderPetrikor]

I am going to lead a movement to get rid of MAIL-IN BALLOTS, and also, while we’re at it, Highly “Inaccurate,” Very Expensive, and Seriously Controversial VOTING MACHINES, which cost Ten Times more than accurate and sophisticated Watermark Paper, which is faster, and leaves NO DOUBT, at the end of the evening, as to who WON, and who LOST, the Election. We are now the only Country in the World that uses Mail-In Voting. All others gave it up because of the MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD ENCOUNTERED. WE WILL BEGIN THIS EFFORT, WHICH WILL BE STRONGLY OPPOSED BY THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY CHEAT AT LEVELS NEVER SEEN BEFORE, by signing an EXECUTIVE ORDER to help bring HONESTY to the 2026 Midterm Elections. Remember, the States are merely an “agent” for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do. With their HORRIBLE Radical Left policies, like Open Borders, Men Playing in Women’s Sports, Transgender and “WOKE” for everyone, and so much more, Democrats are virtually Unelectable without using this completely disproven Mail-In SCAM. ELECTIONS CAN NEVER BE HONEST WITH MAIL IN BALLOTS/VOTING, and everybody, IN PARTICULAR THE DEMOCRATS, KNOWS THIS. I, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WILL FIGHT LIKE HELL TO BRING HONESTY AND INTEGRITY BACK TO OUR ELECTIONS. THE MAIL-IN BALLOT HOAX, USING VOTING MACHINES THAT ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL DISASTER, MUST END, NOW!!! REMEMBER, WITHOUT FAIR AND HONEST ELECTIONS, AND STRONG AND POWERFUL BORDERS, YOU DON’T HAVE EVEN A SEMBLANCE OF A COUNTRY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

We're fucked.

[u/IamBrian2 → u/SinderPetrikor]

The ramblings of a truly crazy person.

[u/bullant8547 → u/SinderPetrikor]

Only country that still allows mail in voting? Australia says hello fuckwit.

[u/Nessy_monster36903 → u/bullant8547]

So does the Uk

[u/Coachrags → u/Nessy_monster36903]

And Canada

[u/Cyanopicacooki → u/bullant8547]

As does the United Kingdom.

Although with Trump, we wouldn't be nearly polite enough to accord him "fuckwit"

The thing is though, the majority of voters in the US will believe him

[u/Nerdbag60]

Ivanka has Chinese patents on voting machines. Convenient.

[u/alabasterskim]

"WE WILL BEGIN THIS EFFORT, WHICH WILL BE STRONGLY OPPOSED BY THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE THEY CHEAT AT LEVELS NEVER SEEN BEFORE, by signing an EXECUTIVE ORDER to help bring HONESTY to the 2026 Midterm Elections," he added.

Yes, Dems cheat so hard they keep losing for some reason.

[u/Schiffy94 → u/alabasterskim]

He's still pushing the 2020 lie, even after winning in '24.

[u/Answer70]

Here's their game. There are three suppliers. One supplier had a ton of weird stuff in both the 2020 and 2024 elections all favoring Republicans.

They still lost in 2020, and since they cheated, they figured the Democrats also cheated using the Dominion system (they didn't). Dominion was not compromised which is why they sued.

Now, you can bet Dominion will be phased out. Mark my words.

[u/SadLeek9950]

Another useless EO that is unconstitutional as it violates state's rights. I expect the ring kissing governors to fully implement this or their state legislators to change state constitutions to ban mail in voting measures.

[u/Themapples07]

After moving from a state without mail-in ballots to one that uses them, my biggest takeaway is how much better the experience is. Instead of standing in line and feeling rushed, I can sit at my computer and really research the candidates and initiatives. That extra time matters, especially when initiatives are written in confusing or misleading ways. Having the chance to slow down and make informed decisions creates a more intelligent voting populace.

[u/crujones43 → u/Themapples07]

That's exactly why Republicans don't want it.

[u/EnterpriseGate]

Another reason to impeach trump.

[u/aussiecomrade01]

I think the most shocking thing about the Trump regime that makes this moment so disastrous for the US is that for the first time -arguably ever- the US has a leadership that is openly hostile to the public. Presidents like Reagan, for example, were hostile too, but there is nothing more soul-destroying to a nation than a government that loudly and proudly hates the people it’s supposed to serve. It feels almost like the white house is being illegally occupied, rather than having a genuine mandate, sort of like if a crackhead broke into the oval office and started spouting orders.

[u/NoLemon5426]

wine political lip many physical upbeat coherent late enter normal

[u/sailing_by_the_lee]

Well, Daddy Putin said mail-in ballots are bad, so....

No wonder Putin was smiling the whole time in Alaska.

[u/SwimmingPirate9070]

Flip the fucking tables and chairs over America! The Nazis invaded their own country first!

[u/Particular-Dingo6489]

He said that no one would ever have to vote again because it will be "fixed so good".

https://youtu.be/gE7xoHJkgvE?si=GLZzRm2Hi4PJQr5e

Traitors should get the punishment traitors deserve

[u/VacuumTubeLogic]

Hi USA! I've been here, done that. Here the lesson learned was: never again. Everything is being tampered with, hate is being spread. Police and military presence is increasing and changing in nature. Laws don't apply to the leaders anymore. The political scene is made into a circus to take focus away from reality.

There is zero doubt that concentration camps are being build as we speak in the US.

In a few years when all the facts, that we already know but are being hidden for now, comes out, I don't want to hear one single american say "we didn't know". Especially those who voted for this. You know.

Best regards

Europe

[u/Despair-Envy → u/VacuumTubeLogic]

There is zero doubt that concentration camps are being build as we speak in the US.

Alligator Auschwitz has its name for a reason. Also we deported plenty of legal residents to CECOT, a camp considered internationally to be a death camp, for the crime of being legal US residents, but brown.

We know.

[u/ChefChopNSlice]

Putin literally just TOLD HIM TO DO THIS in their Alaska meeting. Trump came out and said “Putin said”. This is like an evil game of “Simon Says”.

[u/SoundSageWisdom]

We are not fucking doing this. This motherfucking piece of shit all he does is cheat.

[u/DJ-dicknose]

The timing of this is hilarious. It recently came to light that several councilmen in Hamtramck, just outside Detroit, stuffed ballot boxes. It's currently under investigation.

So MAGA is all up in arms about it. Not realizing Hamtramck is hard MAGA.

[u/xyakks]

He is a pedo and Americans love him. Americans voted him in twice. And he is a pedo. A child raping pedo. And they love him.

[u/Choice_Cup_3624]

Wow, just like Putin told him to do!

[u/Reviews-From-Me]

Trump did say that if he got elected again, we wouldn't ever need to vote again.

[u/VigilantVet]

Can’t manipulate those mail-in ballots as easy, can you? Fucking cheating POS.

[u/4ndyPower]

Where the Epstein files?!

[u/hymie0]

Article 2 Section 1

He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress:

The President doesn't get a say in the matter.

[u/Iinktolyn]

Trump has no say over how states run elections. And SCOTUS has bolstered states rights again and again. So this is just bullying and intimidation on behalf of Putin.

[u/IAmArique → u/Iinktolyn]

Yup. Putin suggested it a few days ago (which I’m convinced is a lie and Heritage Foundation told him to do it instead), and now Trump is trying to make it happen.

[u/Gaius_Octavius_]

"Republicans will ban military from voting" would be the headline on FOX News if Democrats did this.

[u/BTRCguy]

Trump said Vladimir Putin agreed with him on ending mail-in balloting.

Literally, Trump brags that a guy who jails and murders his political opponents agrees with Trump on electoral issues.

[u/aresef]

The Constitution grants the president no power to regulate elections.

[u/MuricaLandOCowardice]

Congratulations, America.

This is the third pillar of Democracy to crumble.

1. Once upon a time, you had free and fair elections. You no longer do, and you never will again.

2. You have no equality under the law. Not once in your nation's history has this been true. You never had it.

3. You have no fair representation in any level of government. Your federal and legislative institutions do not exist to enact your will, but for the will of lobbyists and shadow PACs.

Congratulations America, you're dead.

[u/blues111]

Can't win running on their own platforms (big shitty bill, MAHA anti vax garbage, first amendment violations and fascist behavior, high prices)

So they have to cheat by doing mid decade restricting to gerrymander dems out of seats and now vote supression

[u/NoSwimmers45]

Typical GOP moves. They know they can’t win elections fairly so they always cheat and then point fingers at the Democrats.

[u/MonkeyWrench1973]

"Paper ballot voting only."

"In Breaking News tonight, the State of Texas is reporting 485 million votes for Trump's 3rd term and zero votes for the Democratic contender. What a mandate, folks!!!"

Of course, all of these paper ballots are being filled out now, stored until the day of midterm elections.

[u/Stewylouis]

We are so fucked boys and girls. I fear even when this nightmare is over and comrade cheeto is rotting in the dirt the effects of this administration on this country will still be felt for generations to come. It’s a meme at this point to say it but truly am I tired of living in “interesting” times in history.

[u/preferanonymity0]

Trump can't win when people vote, so he wants to make it harder to vote.

[u/triscious]

Shame it's a Republican doing this. If it were a Democratic president I'm pretty sure we would be well past impeachment and wrapping up a prosecution for treason with bipartisan support.

[u/musitechnica]

Executive orders only apply to the Executive branch. Why are so many EOs being treated as laws, and being applied without question outside of the Executive branch?

[u/CohentheBoybarian]

That may be hard to do from his cell. Release the Epstein files, kid-raper.

[u/Ging287]

Presidents do not rule by fiat. IMPEACH and REMOVE this stupid CLOWN TRAITOR.

[u/ArcticSekai]

The ramblings of a child rapist. Release the Epstein files. And be sure to VOTE!