r/politics • u/perplexed-redditor • 3d ago
Soft Paywall Officials have been planning for weeks to send National Guard to Chicago as Trump seeks to expand crime crackdown
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/23/politics/national-guard-chicago-plans-trump130
u/dollarstoresim 3d ago
Sanewashing alert
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog 3d ago edited 3d ago
Everyone is using the same horseshit “crime crackdown” label. It’s an occupation by red state forces of defeated blue states. The entire purpose is to mirror the occupation of Southern states after the end of the Civil War.
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u/NickelBackwash 3d ago
Corpo media is always going to take the fascists side
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u/SadFeed63 3d ago
It's like news orgs going with "Alligator Alcatraz." That's what Trump's team called it, that's what they want people to call it, cause it's memey and silly, and while Alcatraz does exist in pop culture as a particularly rough prison that's difficult to escape, Alcatraz was not a concentration camp. So, calling this concentration camp "Alcatraz" is a softening that benefits the Trump White House. If you want a snappy name call it Alligator Auschwitz, but even that I feel like is a step too memey and crafted with the mention of alligators. I'd be calling them the [Insert location] Concentration Camps. The South Florida Concentration Camp.
But corporate media wants the meme, even if what they're meme-ing about are gross human rights violations. Only talking about gross human rights violations wouldn't be faux "balanced" enough for them.
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u/TintedApostle 3d ago
It was the same with J6. They called it first a "protest" and then "riot", but never "Insurrection".
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u/jcarter315 I voted 2d ago
This is exactly why I kept calling it "American Auschwitz".
Gets the point across very clearly and drops the framing used by the right wing entirely.
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u/is-this-now 2d ago
Its real purpose is to divert attention from the real crimes being committed by the federal administration.
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u/NickelBackwash 3d ago
No quotes around "crime crackdown" is carrying water for the regime.
Fuck cnn!
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u/SymbiSpidey 3d ago
Ask yourself what kind of "free" nation has military personnel policing urban population centers?
This is so cartoonishly fascistic that anyone who supports this deserves to be lumped in with the Nazi trash
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u/CocoaKpopsTTV 3d ago
Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana. 4 states with the highest per capita murder rates in the US. Why aren't they sending the troops there?? Oh wait. That's right.
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u/BeverlyHills70117 3d ago
Be patient. I live in Louisiana and our MAGA governor and Trump have plans for the Democratic cities.
It's been bandied about already.
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u/Machiavvelli3060 3d ago
Has sending troops into Washington D.C. reduced crime in any measurable way?
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u/ArthurDentsRobeTie 3d ago
There is no reasonable way to claim that it has, between it being so recent and almost impossible to prove any kind of correlation. But that hasn't stopped losers from yelling about no homicides in a week as if they solved crime.
Never mind that in February, DC had no homicides for 16 straight days, reflecting the generally decreasing crime in the city for the last 30.years. Never mind that. Mission accomplished and all that.
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u/Machiavvelli3060 3d ago
My question was rhetorical, but thank you for stating the answer out loud.
If they can't prove that invading Washington D.C. has been a success, then they really don't have a legitimate reason for invading other cities.
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u/ArthurDentsRobeTie 2d ago
Thanks, I had to, because the rhetorical questions don't work now. They're claiming one week without a murder - a "fact" I've only heard sourced from the chief liar himself - as some kind of resounding success. So when someone asks this question, they claim the answer is yes. They're very unserious people.
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u/ClusterFoxtrot Florida 3d ago
Last I checked, the unmarked orange goon remains un-apprehended and still engaged on a massive solo-man crime spree.
Who knew those cankles could be so slippery.
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u/Interesting-Risk6446 2d ago
No military personnel have gone outside the city into neighborhoods where crime is prevalent. It's all smoke and mirrors.
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u/Ok_State_1863 2d ago
No, because they aren't even in the high-crime parts of DC. They're rounding up immigrant workers in wealthy neighborhoods to put on a show for tourists and Trump watching on TV. They're too scared to go after actual criminals.
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u/GargamelTakesAll 2d ago
It has reduced restaurant business:
"...restaurant attendance was down every day last week compared with 2024, with the number of diners dipping by 31% on Wednesday,"
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u/Pale-and-Willing 3d ago
If a president wanted to become effectively a dictator, he’d likely:
- Purge govt of non loyalists
- Weaponize law against opponents
- Use military to police opposition strongholds
- Threaten media, schools, businesses w penalties to get them to heel
- Change election rules in his favor.
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u/Tony2030 3d ago
This is a crackdown on tourism to Blue cities. It has nothing to do with "crime".
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u/karl_jonez 3d ago
Tourism is down everywhere even red states. Hell Florida is suffering greatly right now, and most of the decline is directly related to taco and his cult. Its only going to get worse too.
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u/Kiddyhawk 3d ago
Imagine joining the military so you can protect the USA from enemies. And, instead, you are deployed to a US city to tear down homeless tents and arrest US citizens for public intoxication.
1945 Veteran: Fought nazis and saved the world from facism, tyranny, oppression, and persecution.
2025 Veteran: Tore down homeless tents in Denver, arrested someone with an open beer in Dallas, handcuffed someone in Cincinnati for filming you.
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u/RoseCityHooligan Oregon 2d ago
Surprised CNN didn't title this "Glorious leader sends brave troops into evil democrat city to save America". We have the most pathetic corporate media in this country.
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u/Verum_Orbis 2d ago
Problem. Reaction, Solution. The fascist and machiavellian strategies that this administration are using is so blatant if only we had an educated populace to understand and recognize these age old tactics of divide and conquer and coercion.
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u/StephanXX Oregon 2d ago
Stupid, dangerous sanewashing. CNN was never great but they've fully migrated into right-wing propaganda.
This is the trial flag to ensure that elections are fully controlled next year. Blue cities will be denied ballot access due to "security." The poll results simply won't matter. If citizens can't vote at the polls, they will have to leverage more aggressive solutions.
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u/Deareim2 Europe 3d ago
Media is sold to Trump. It is insane even CNN has became Fox News.
Good luck to you America because you are truly fucked.
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u/RosalilyArts 3d ago
Spoiler alert, the crime is being Mexican so they have reason to arrest you and use violent resistance as a means for authority & justification.
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u/johnn48 2d ago edited 2d ago
Constitutionally does the President have the right to deploy National Guard or military to the States against the wishes of the States elected officials. Does he have the right to declare an emergency independent of State authorities. Do the States have the authority to supersede the President in local matters. Does he have the right to supersede the states authority. Does the 10th Amendment cover this. ”The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
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u/Jaded_Pearl1996 2d ago
I’m still waiting for ice to arrest a violent criminal, or even a gang member.
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u/dndm1 3d ago
“crime crackdown”? Not really.
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u/TintedApostle 3d ago
The media has in total settled on the term "crime crackdown" instead of "occupation". It is called manufacturing consent.
They did this with J6 too. The first used "protest" and then "Riot", but never "Insurrection" or "Coup".
This is not a coincidence.
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u/BearDen17 America 3d ago
What are police for then? Major media normalizing authoritarianism. Pathetic.
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u/KakistocratForLife 2d ago
Hey CNN - this has nothing to do with “crime”. The headline of the story furthers Trump’s BS narrative
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u/Suspicious_Rope_3954 3d ago
Days, weeks, months, years, decades. I believe all those assessment are correct, they just have to opportunity to act on it now.
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u/cwilly57 2d ago
Hey CNN...
Hes a lunatic and a moron and does not live in reality. Hes also been planning to enrich himself and his family, accept bribes and gifts, and try to hide and cover up his ties to Epstein.
Also, you know, that whole fascism thing...
If Biden did this what would the headlines be?
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u/FrostyDucks879 2d ago
It’s not a crime crackdown.
CNN I SBOUFHT AND PAID FOR BY PEDOPHILE GOP REPUBLICAN PROTECTORS. CNN IS THE MOUTPIECE OF REPUBLICAN PROPOGANDA. THEIR TRUTH IS NO LONGER VIABLE, THEY ARE SAD AND VERY SMALL.
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u/EchoesInSky 2d ago
I think it’s weird to have the military patrolling the streets, but if it gets the job done, what’s wrong with that?
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u/Muffles79 2d ago
Cult person says what?
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u/EchoesInSky 2d ago
Bro. I’m very anti Trump. I just want to understand why this is a bad thing? It’s clear the current system wasn’t working.
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u/snoo_spoo 2d ago
What, to you, would define "working"? And what are you willing to sacrifice to have that? Bearing in mind that crime rates in general are down, not up, and Chicago is far from being the city with the worst crime rates.
How could you possibly imagine it's a good thing for a country to deploy military forces against its own citizenry? And if you're somehow okay with giving this power to Trump, how would you feel about a leader you distrust having the same power?
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u/Muffles79 2d ago
You’re suggesting there’s a reason for it. It’s a show for him, and a huge waste of taxpayer money. It probably has more to do with the governor of Illinois getting under his skin.
There’s no reason the National guard should be deployed against US citizens
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u/EchoesInSky 2d ago
So you think the crime in Chicago is acceptable? What’s your solution?
I agree using the military isn’t a good answer, but neither is doing nothing.
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u/Muffles79 2d ago
Crime is down in Chicago. This is a show of force to Trump because he hates the democratic Governor
“Attorney General Pam Bondi has also made clear that cities and states across the country with so-called sanctuary policies, which limit local officials from assisting in federal immigration enforcement, could be a target for the National Guard.”
There it is. They’re crying about SaNTUaRY CiTIEs
This is huge government overreach - the state hasn’t even requested it
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u/EchoesInSky 2d ago
Isn’t he considering putting the guard in like 20 major cities? A lot of those are red states. So I’m not sure how much hating the Illinois governor is valid.
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u/Muffles79 2d ago
It’s a test. DC is the capital.
The other ones you’re talking about is to assist ICE because ICE exceeded its budget.
You shouldn’t be putting so much blind faith into this
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u/anthony_denver 2d ago
If you think criminals are going to abandon crime just because a few national guard are on the streets, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. They’ll just move it somewhere else or and/or out of sight.
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u/Coolthat6 3d ago
Chicago crime is out of control.
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u/blues111 Michigan 3d ago
No its not, not to the extent the national guard needs to be involved
The national guard is not Trumps personal police force and if you think they should be? You support fascism
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u/atombara 3d ago
Hang on, I'm going to look outside to see if the crime is in the city with us.
I'm back, it's fine. So what else ya got? Any migrant caravans you're worried about? Those boogeymen tend to emerge and dissolve with elections.
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u/Coolthat6 3d ago
I mean, you're in a white upper class area. Now head to the south side.
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u/atombara 3d ago
I am not, no. Also there aren't really any parts of the city I'm "worried" about going to, even during the height of crime many years ago. Since then, things have been improving steadily. I know what would fuck things up though: Schlepping a bunch of fat guys with guns from Shit River, Kentucky into the city to look for trouble. That would be a terrible idea that only an idiot or a pedophile would have.
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u/sedatedlife Washington 3d ago
Chicago crime rate has been declining and the national guard are not law enforcement.
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u/SymbiSpidey 3d ago
You seem like one of those people who would be terrified of their own shadow.
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u/Coolthat6 3d ago
What makes you think that?
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u/SymbiSpidey 3d ago
Because it's not "out of control" to the extent that we need the fucking military deployed. It's just more fearmongering for gullible fools.
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