r/politics • u/DBCoopr72 • 18h ago
Trump ‘manufactured crisis’ to justify plan to send national guard to Chicago, leading Democrat says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/24/trump-national-guard-chicago-hakeem-jeffries438
u/Pope_Dwayne_Johnson 18h ago
As a Chicagoan - stay the fuck out of my city. I’ve never felt unsafe and don’t need the US military to take up residence.
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u/thrawtes 17h ago
stay the fuck out of my city
He's getting combative, I need backup, send tanks!
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u/NeverNude26 17h ago edited 15h ago
Have you considered requesting the Air Force and 500 lbs bombs?
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u/TheSeekerOfSanity 16h ago
He’s threatening the same for Baltimore which currently has historic lows when it comes to the crime rate.
“Baltimore reports historic drop in homicide rates, with April hitting all-time low”
“Baltimore recorded the lowest number of monthly homicides in history this April, according to Mayor Brandon Scott. The city reported five homicide cases in April 2025.
In April last year, Baltimore Police reported 13 homicides in the city, that’s a 61.5% drop in one year.
The historic drop comes as the city continues to see dramatic decreases in violent crime. According to the mayor, homicides are down 31.6% and nonfatal shootings are down 27% compared to May 2024.
Since 2020, homicides have dropped by 40% and nonfatal shootings declined by 43%, according to data from the mayor’s office. Over the past year, crime rates have continued to drop across all categories, including robberies, carjackings and arson.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-baltimore-city-violent-crime-homicides/
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u/Dallasburner84 15h ago
Yep, literally went across town and back last night without any issues at all. I went to pizza fest for fucks sake, those kinds of things wouldnt be happening if crime (especially violent crime) was such an issue.
These clowns won't be deployed anywhere that has actual crime. But I would bet a years salary they'll deploy on the loop and with a strong presence around trump tower, how convenient.
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u/RaconteurLore 11h ago
This is all practice runs.
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u/Dallasburner84 10h ago
Hope youre wrong, but I dont think you are. Financially and logistically its not possible long term. Welcome to the insurgency Donald, you little dicked bitch.
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u/soapinthepeehole 14h ago
Another Chicagoan here. I guarantee you he won’t be sending them to the actual neighborhoods with crime problems. He’ll be sending them to guard the bean and maybe harass restaurant workers and immigrants, and they’ll disappear on day 30 without any effect, if we keep our cool and don’t take the bait.
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u/metalyger 15h ago
There's something like 18 or 19 states he's announced to send the national guard to. Another one is Nevada, where his tarrfis and hostility to other countries has caused a massive decline in Las Vegas tourism, sending in the military will make things even worse for a state that depends on tourism, plus our governor is a MAGA jackass that campaigned on anti trans culture war bs.
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u/gringledoom 11h ago
He’s sending 1700 total, which works out to ~30 per state per shift.
(Did someone look at the price tag and decide that Emperor Cankles would be just as happy with fawning Fox coverage of Temu martial law?)
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u/simulated_wood_grain 12h ago
I will feel unsafe with the NG around. Never felt unsafe in the loop. Even at night
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u/Spastic_pinkie New Jersey 8h ago
Illinois national guard need to occupy all entrances to Chicago and block trump's guard from entering while letting civilians in and out. Don't think trump's guards will risk firing on the Illinois national guard. The same goes for the other states being threatened by trump's guards.
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u/Polantaris 10h ago
I've lived in the Chicago area for a few years now, I feel a fuckton safer here than I ever did where I lived before (Houston). Not only that, but I take public transportation all the time and, still, feel safer than I ever did in Houston driving myself.
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u/MournWillow 6h ago
I’m from Arkansas, and very recently I have been to Chicago to visit family and my girlfriend. Scariest shit that put my life in danger was an asshat on the road not wanting to let me in to merge. Took the train up from Oak Forest to where the Sox stadium is, got on the L and rode all the way in to get to the Shedd Aquarium and the Field Museum for the first date with my girlfriend. Strangest part was just watching someone decide to sit on the back of the chair on the L, with his feet in the seat, as opposed to sitting in the seat with his feet on the floor.
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u/Rough-Farmer2836 8h ago
What’s Chicago gonna do about it? Because the government wants an excuse to fire away at dissenters.
We need mass mobilization and a general strike. All of this insanity, what RFK is doing, it needs to stop. When are people going to do the work? I’ve never felt so despondent at how many people don’t care
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u/Lower-Lion-6467 7h ago
Leadership needs to stand up and make it very explicit that this sort of unsolicited incursion is unwelcome, a violation of the law and will be treated as such. If he wants a Constitutional crisis make it one.
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u/canon12 21m ago
I know and I love Chicago. This responder is speaking the truth. Chicago is not DC and that's a very good thing. The military is not needed or wanted and they will quickly find out how the grand majority will react strongly to it. I would suggest if Trump takes the chance that he and Stephen Miller walk in front of a military parade down Lake Shore Drive. I would also suggest that Trump doubles up on his diapers.
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u/pgm_01 Connecticut 18h ago
Every bit of Trump's overreach has been due to him declaring a need based on a manufactured crisis. He is abusing emergency powers when there is no emergency, but the courts are not reining him in quickly or by very much. Congress has been completely derelict in their duties to the point where Republicans should just not bother gaveling in the House or Senate in September.
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u/ProfessionalField508 14h ago
It's a basic step in facism. He expected violent pushback to his actions earlier in the year, and when that didn't come, he just started lying about it.
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u/soapinthepeehole 14h ago
100%. We went from “tariffs are necessary because of fentanyl” to “I don’t like how Brazil treated Bolsanaro” and no one batted an eye.
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u/RaconteurLore 11h ago
We all remember the immigrants storming the boarder during his last 4 years. This is just practice runs for something much much larger.
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u/thrawtes 16h ago
Congress has been completely derelict in their duties
Dunno how many times I have to say it but Congress' only real duty is to represent their constituents. The people of America demanded Congress step aside and enable a dictator, if they aren't doing that then they're not doing their jobs.
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u/ProfessionalField508 14h ago
Congress is only the way it is through decades of heavy gerrymandering and election manipulation to get that majority to give them the power to enact fascism. The majority of Americans do not want this.
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u/DoctorP0nd 7h ago
Doesn’t matter, enough of them stayed home on Election Day and those of us that aren’t lazy or stupid have to suffer because of it.
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u/Popculturemofo Washington 17h ago
It just seems inevitable at this point that we’re going to have an incident that involves the military firing on a group of citizens and it’ll inevitably be sanewashed by the media and this administration itself will suggest that people simply stop protesting to keep it from happening again.
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u/FrankensteinJamboree 14h ago
Four dead in Oh Hi Oh. How many more?
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u/samplebitch 12h ago
Who knew the Bowling Green Massacre was actually a real thing? (It just hadn't happened yet!)
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u/Sweaty-Awareness-141 12h ago
Honestly, my money is on one of these armored vehicles running over a kid on a bike or something like that. Wasn't there already an accident in DC where an armored vehicle ran a red light and totaled an SUV?
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u/gringledoom 11h ago
The National Guard very much does not want to be doing any of this. They signed up for the job expecting to assist their neighbors during natural disasters.
We could all make “sorry, this is so stupid and a waste of your time. Hope you’re back to your family and your regular life soon!” protest signs and help alienate them from the president.
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u/jwr1111 18h ago
President Bone-Spurs loves sending in the troops for no reason, taking them away from their families and jobs.
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u/RebellionOfMemes 14h ago
He also has intentionally not been giving them orders so they can’t get paid. Nat. Guard can be deployed for up to 29 days without pay if not given orders.
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u/amanam0ngb0ts 16h ago
I love how it’s like “so says a democrat.”
No, this isn’t really an opinion. CRIME IS DOWN. It’s absolutely manufactured. So says anyone living in our shared reality.
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u/01wax 18h ago
Our species is so fucked, dumbest timeline possible.
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u/fowlraul Oregon 17h ago
The national guard service members should strike…but they won’t. We’re fucked and all the dummies that voted for this should feel shame, but they don’t.
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u/half_dozen_cats Illinois 15h ago
The national guard service members should strike…but they won’t.
Also I'm pretty sure he's only deploying the NG from states that are already red, so that lowers the chance even more in my opinion.
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u/thrawtes 16h ago
The national guard service members should strike…
It's fucked to ask them to go to jail for disobeying lawful orders that we as a nation have asked them to follow. We should instead not give them orders worth going to jail over.
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u/fowlraul Oregon 16h ago
“Lawful” orders is a stretch. trump is a criminal and his admin is filled will criminal enablers.
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u/thrawtes 16h ago
There's been at least a lawful pretense for everything the national guard has been ordered to do. That's how fascism works.
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u/thrawtes 15h ago
I think you misunderstand. They're our military. We should tell them not to be fascist. Demanding our service members take the fall for our choices is reprehensible.
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u/2_Sheds_Jackson 17h ago
Why is Trump protecting the liberal cities? Shouldn't the MAGA types be insisting that he sends troops to the red states to fight crime? /s
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u/TheOnlyVertigo Illinois 5h ago
Guarantee he wants to test out deploying the guard to interrupt or interfere with elections in liberal areas to ensure the gop steals more seats.
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u/According-Bug1709 2h ago
1) Because liberal cities don’t keep their cities clean and don’t punish criminals.
2) Because liberal cities are sanctuary status, which causes the crime in the first place, and can also be overcome via the national guard.
3) If you don’t want the damned national guard in your city maybe don’t elect a mid-wit mayor who’s incapable of enforcing law and order.
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u/jeccb 16h ago
JB Pritzker should call out the state national guard to protect it from Trump.
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u/wellohwellok 15h ago edited 4h ago
Pritzker should March down the streets in Southside Chicago unprotected and call on citizens of those neighborhoods to join him so we can see just how safe it is.
Edit: I love how I'm getting upvoted because the sarcasm isn't easily detectable through text. This would go horribly wrong. If you don't agree you're not familiar with Chicago at all. Dead body, everyday. There's been over 250 murders to date this year.. it's a down year
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u/Orwells_Roses 16h ago
He sends troops places but has no real plan for what happens when they get there. We saw this during his last term, and we’re seeing it now in LA and DC, the troops standing around with their thumbs up their asses, watching ICE abduct brown people, sleeping on convention center floors, without anything real to do, and it’s REALLY expensive.
This doesn’t even scratch the surface of these moves being violations of the constitution, and reasons listed for rebellion in our own Declaration of Independence.
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u/Redshirt_Welshy_Nooo 17h ago
trump will start a civil war to distract from his child-raping history.
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u/Alternative_Rent9307 15h ago
Chicago is a lot different from DC. If he actually does send troops there it’ll be the biggest shakeup the US government has yet experienced, and many many people on both sides of the aisle will fucking hate it. Forget Capitol Hill. Those dickless fucks, except maybe Rand Paul, will fall right in line. But the masses red and blue will hate it. He might still do it. At this point all bets are off.
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u/Ohnoherewego13 North Carolina 16h ago
Hey look! Trump is wasting even more money! Donnie will do anything to distract from the Epstein list. On top of that, this is his little "I'm a dictator now and you can't do anything!" act. Anything to try to stop future elections and declare himself an emperor.
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u/ProfessorDerp22 16h ago
You’d think their Reichstag moment would have been something significant, but no, Big Balls gets mugged by some teenagers and he mobilizes the military to occupy blue cities. Goofball timeline.
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u/Hysterican 16h ago
Isn’t this their reasoning for 2A ? What about 10A ? Posse Comitatus ?
This isn’t about education. Never have so many people been so educated. It’s about convenience. People aren’t hungry, yet. We’re all fattened up and absorbed into media doing what I’m doing now. Typing out ideas and not making a difference.
Hopefully a solid trend is being established in CA. We desperately need solid leadership in opposition to the dictatorship that is evolving. We need to consolidate and destroy the corrupt system that is currently running our nation.
Freedom from tyranny Freedom of thought Freedom to be
These are the ideals which have driven societies toward liberal democracies. And ensuring these principles demands durable laws and honorable people at the helm. We must fight to win.
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u/OneSeaworthiness7768 16h ago
I mean that is very obviously what’s going on to anyone with eyes and more than two brain cells.
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u/Sarrdonicus 10h ago
He wants us to attack the National Guard soldiers, so he can bring in Pete with the big guns. First, a police state, next, there is martial law.
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u/Peacewrecker 9h ago
To be fair, he didn't even do that. He's just pretending his manufactured crisis exists.
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u/adorablefuzzykitten 14h ago
Chicago was the site of both War 11 and War 13. Both Prevented by Trump.
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u/Hugh_G_Rectshun 14h ago
His over flexing and desire for complete and total control will be his downfall.
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u/amazinglover 14h ago
President was granted the use of emergency powers to act immediately in cases where it was needed to give time for congress to act.
The fact that he is waiting days or even months to act tells you everything you need to know about these emergencies.
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u/sackofmangoes 12h ago
Manufactured Crisis literally has been his entire political platform as a lifelong con artist and swindler.
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u/mountaindoom 10h ago
With help from billionaire-owned media referring to it as a "crime crackdown."
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u/akaRazorBacks 10h ago
If he can declare a “State of Emergency”, on the USA. You can’t VOTE during a State of Emergency. If that happens, we the people will never vote again!! AGAIN!! Let that sink in!!!
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u/doowadittie America 8h ago
I don’t understand why any of this is a surprise. To the public, to the democrats or to media. All of this was clearly shared by Kamala but it seems this was forgotten. This clown will go down in history making W Bush look like a decent president.
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u/ryan7251 8h ago
Lol and what you gonna do about it.....right nothing trump can do what he wants till people who act like this is so horrible do something.....we all know they won't.
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u/tropical_dreams_ 17h ago
Tin soldiers and trump is comin ' We're finally on our own This summer I hear the drummin' Four dead in Chicago
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u/ActionJacksonATL24 13h ago
Wait a minute, is the crisis on immigration also manufactured? The same guy who got Mexico to pay for the big beautiful wall? The same guy who stated the businesses would pay for the tariffs?
I’m starting to think maybe he’s just lying to us… nah that can’t be it, he seems so righteous. /S
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u/RaconteurLore 11h ago
These are all practice runs. He is planning much bigger oppression related to the next election. I guarantee you!!! Mark this post.
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u/TheDukeofArgyll Maryland 9h ago
Can the national guard of a state be deployed to protect that state from a different states national guard?
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u/SweatyAd9240 8h ago
For sure that is what he’s doing. He is creating a police state to cancel midterms and then to remain in office for the rest of his life
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u/DontOvercookPasta 5h ago
Oh buddy just wait till the actual false flag operations start popping off in the next month or two. Armed military in the streets of major cities while inequality in on the rise and a malevolent leadership willing to burn it all down..
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u/wade_wilson44 1h ago
He didn’t manufacture anything. He completely made it up with no basis in reality.
Manufacturing it would at least entail him setting up a false flag riot or domestic terrorist event, or having crime rates that justify anything.
He’s just abusing power and doing what he wants, he didn’t manufacture anything
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u/DewsDewberrys 13h ago
Nothing says “i’m privileged as F” by stating “i’ve never felt unsafe and don’t need…..”. Must be a nice gated community on the North side you live in. Disregard those murder numbers, doesn’t apply to my wealthy arse….
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u/wellohwellok 15h ago
I challenge anyone, especially Illinois politicians, who are contesting that the safety of Chicago isn't a concern. Hop on that train to the south side and if you make it there unprovoked, walk up and down those streets. Let us know how good of a time you had enjoying the sights. Police won't even spend time there unless they get called to a scene.
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