r/politics • u/Hiversitize • 12h ago
National Guard may run out of money because of Trump’s repeated deployments
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/national-guard-cost-donald-trump-deployments-b2812780.html2.2k
u/NamelessResearcher 12h ago
In other words, the National Guard is turning into one of his casinos.
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u/Illustrious_Entry413 11h ago
The entire country is
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u/disasterbot I voted 9h ago
Come November, we all might run out of money.
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u/MajKonglomerate 8h ago
Part of me hopes it collapses so there's zero doubt on where it came from. Can't blame Biden anymore.
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u/hamfinity 8h ago
"Why didn't Biden stop this?!"
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u/JMurdock77 7h ago edited 7h ago
Hell, they’ve already convinced themselves Biden was responsible for the covid lockdowns that happened during Trump’s last year in office, and Obama was responsible for the 2008 financial crash that happened in Bush’s last year.
My entire adult life has been spent watching republicans run the country into the ground and then immediately blame democrats for the problems they created as soon as people get sick of their shit and vote them out.
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u/Bluedaddy420 4h ago
That’s usually how it goes, republicans get in there and fuck shit up, people get tired of it and vote democrat and the cycle repeats.
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u/fluteofski- 5h ago edited 5h ago
My father in law believes all the inflation is because of the billions the Biden admin pumped into the economy via the CHIPS act. How if the government pays for things, and there’s more dollars floating around, prices on everything just go up. And how inflation is bad.
I asked him if he knew exactly how inflation was measured. Dude had absolutely no idea.
Moments later he goes on to talk about his house was and how it went up in value in the last year, and how great that was.
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u/ic33 3h ago
Government spending can absolutely be inflationary. So can tariffs. We're doing a bunch of both now unnecessarily.
On the other hand: we effectively printed a bunch of money during COVID and hurt production, so we ended up with more dollars chasing fewer goods. This is inflationary. Of course, this was the least bad option given the degree of crisis we were in, and we came through relatively unscathed.
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u/Momik 3h ago
The supply chain disruptions caused by Covid itself were far more inflationary than the stimulus checks. That’s one reason why Biden was able to send stimulus checks, while also cutting inflation in half by 2023 without jacking up interest rates and throwing the economy into a recession.
Which, by the way, isn’t something the U.S. has really done in modern economic history, going from 8 percent inflation to 4 percent in one year, without a recession. Can’t do that if you’re “printing money,” Weimar Germany-style. Because that’s not what happened.
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u/chrisms150 New Jersey 6h ago
I mean. They'll still blame Biden
"Obama and Biden did such a bad job even trump couldn't fix it!"
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u/around_the_clock 8h ago
gonna make it easy for the corporations controlling your government to buy up more land and materials at a discount.
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u/UnquestionabIe 8h ago
Yep that is the major downside in the long term. Would love for anything to limit the regime's attempts to control and pilfer from us for sure but also very much wary of the monsters lurking in the shadows who have been cheering for this.
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u/campfire_eventide Montana 9h ago
He’s turning our NG troops into his toy soldiers and it’s irreverent and sickening.
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u/sausage_ditka_bulls New Jersey 9h ago
How exactly does one bankrupt a casino….?
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u/Graymouzer South Carolina 8h ago
Ask Trump. He has bankrupted a few. Probably money laundering for the mob. That's what gaming commission officials in Nevada and New Jersey thought. Trump recently bragged about gutting money laundering laws (March 3, 2025).
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u/sausage_ditka_bulls New Jersey 8h ago
Makes sense. Now he money launders for the Russian mob
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u/Graymouzer South Carolina 8h ago
He has been doing that for a long time. He sold Russian mobsters a lot of overpriced condos. It is probably how he got so close to the Russians.
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u/DrusTheAxe 8h ago
He laundered money for Russian mobsters using overpriced condos.
Fixed that for you
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u/necrite28 Michigan 5h ago
you'd think it'd be impossible to do so, but trump some how found a way to do it 4 times.
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u/DrusTheAxe 8h ago
The first time Trump had a partner who knew operations. One month after opening, his partner died in a plane crash. I’ll give him a pass on the one.
The next 5? Those are all Trump.
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u/personofshadow 7h ago
Build another casino in close proximity so you double your expenses and split your customers base
Also crime, as others have said
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u/AGrandNewAdventure 7h ago
"I'll run this nation like I run my businesses." And these idiots still elected him.
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u/pentultimate 8h ago
He'll just have to shift Ice with that 20 billion dollar budget to things beyond immigration enforcement.
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u/_Doomer_Wojack_ 11h ago
Put it on the 37 trillion debt tab. Nobody cares until everyone cares.
Foreseeable bond market crash in the future?
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u/Throwaway1285837 11h ago
The higher the interest payments get, the worse off we will be as the government has no money to pay for other things.
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u/LowItalian 10h ago edited 8h ago
The interest rates are a symptom of our debt addiction. Assuming you're an American, that's your debt too. That means, thanks to Uncle Sam, every person voting age or not owes $108,000. Yes, the debt of our country is a burden on its citizens.
And we still are getting less services than the rest of the industrialized first world. It makes no sense and it's unsustainable.
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u/robokomodos 10h ago
It only makes sense if you're a billionaire who's bought several politicians to make sure you and your corporations don't have to pay taxes.
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u/fence_sitter Florida 10h ago
it's unsustainable.
The bill won't come due until after the US loses the world's reserve currency status which seems more likely by the day.
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u/naurcannon 10h ago
Fear mongering and the debt name a better combo. And that’s not to say that it’s not important but we are owed quite a bit of money by quite a few people as well. It’s an issue that needs to be fixed but it’s not $108k burden on every voter, not really any way because that’s way the fuck not how it works
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u/Serris9K 4h ago
My understanding of the issue is that the debt crisis is missing the forest for the trees, as yes we have debt, but why? My thought is a revenue shortfall courtesy the rich and corpos paying little to no taxes at all. Now yes, the military spending is out of control, but the other things could be solved by just making Amazon pay their dang taxes!
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u/DrusTheAxe 7h ago
No problem. Cut Medicare and Social Security (even those SS doesn’t work that way).
Debt to corporations and the wealthy is inviolate. Payments must be made. The peasants can die in the streets. The more the merrier - fewer to ‘leech’ off the federal teat. /s
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u/Excelius 8h ago
The interest alone for FY26 will be more than a trillion dollars. More than military spending.
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u/Stargazer1919 Illinois 4h ago
That's the whole point.
Both Republicans and libertarians (or at least tons of them) believe that the government shouldn't spend money on a damn thing besides defense. (Military, police, weapons, border security, and so on.)
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u/digiorno 3h ago
And that will be used as an excuse to sell off parts of the government because “private industry will be more efficient and less wasteful.”
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u/Raw_Venus Nebraska 9h ago
Nobody cares until everyone cares.
Until a Democrat is in office. Then they are solely responsible for the 37 trillion dollars.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 Colorado 8h ago
Trump is single-handedly responsible for 32.7% of the entire national debt.
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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 10h ago
Nah. It was the red states that chose to deploy them. Those fuckers can foot the bill.
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u/OkRush9563 1h ago
Agreed. Blue states support them and they are ungrateful assholes. It's like bringing in a homeless druggie and he just stole and uses up all your money on hookers and blow and is unhappy you won't feed him anymore when he just stole your money that you would normally use to buy both of you food.
Trump is proof money doesn't buy class. Without his money he would be the crazy homeless guy yelling at the bus stop that everyone avoids making eye contact with and hopes he doesn't notice them.
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u/YakiVegas Washington 8h ago
800 billionaires in America have 7 trillion worth of wealth. I'm just sayin...
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u/a_little_hazel_nuts 11h ago
Trumps made up emergencies will prevent there actually being a national guard when an actual emergency arrives. They are cutting funding to FEMA and bankrupting the national guard.
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u/DogeAteMyHomework 10h ago
There's another, arguably more problematic, downside to all this.
In the past, the National Guard was recognized without question as a source of support in times of need.
Turning them into a domestic law enforcement tool will undermine willingness of people to seek help, even in times of emergency. People will see them with fear.
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u/prof_the_doom I voted 7h ago
From the GOP perspective that’s a plus.
They don’t want people asking for help.
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u/HBJones1056 10h ago
This is what I was wondering about when the next big hurricane comes along since here we are in hurricane season.
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u/Pleiadesfollower 10h ago
The admin has already blown raspberries and given emergency victims the biggest of middle fingers. A bigger disaster like a hurricane is just going to show how much DeSantis will kiss the shoes while not even getting anything from trump.
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u/FlyingDiscsandJams North Carolina 10h ago
They are transferring FEMA staff to ICE or asking for resignations https://share.google/nXfdmU5Fh8lyMTQCM
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u/charcoalist 11h ago
The Greedy Old Pedophiles recently gave ICE $170 BILLION and even that's not enough for trump/miller's grand scheme to destroy the United States.
Also, it's totally on brand for donald to bankrupt yet another organization.
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u/TintedApostle 11h ago
NG costs about 20 billion.
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u/JaB675 10h ago
How does ICE cost 8.5 times more than NG?
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u/TintedApostle 10h ago
and have 20Xs less men.
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u/DigNitty 8h ago
They’re getting all the benefits democrats wanted for the people, like student loan forgiveness
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 10h ago
It takes a lot of money to build your very own loyal Nazi army.
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u/MonsieurLinc Michigan 8h ago
That seemingly nobody wants to sign up for. Last I checked, they were having trouble recruiting for the 10,000 agent goal.
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u/smitherenesar 9h ago
Congress decided they needed to have 3x the money as the FBI, and more than NASA. If you want money, ICE is spending like crazy right now
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u/tom-branch 5h ago
Heck it costs more then the entire Marine Corps, which is funded at some 47 billion.
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u/DrunksWGuns4Life 6h ago
All their uniforms and badges and training and official vehicles??
Edit: I'm joking
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u/SidewaysFancyPrance 5h ago
National Guard don't build and operate concentration camps or create slush funds.
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u/peeinian Canada 8h ago
Kind of like how before the Final Solution, Hitler wanted to ship all the Jews to Madagascar. Turns out capturing and deporting millions of people is really hard and expensive.
Hopefully America can get its shit together before Trump gets to his final solution.
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u/Devmoi 10h ago
So, I once worked for a really wealthy woman … a woman who owns like 10 homes all over the world. And because they are so used to spending on anything, they can’t tell the difference between expensive and cheap or modest and ridiculous.
I believe that’s the same for Trump and probably a lot of his people. They just spend and spend. It’s honestly good for us because they don’t know how to make things happen even with all that money. The bad part is when all the money dries up, we’ll have to pay for the bill.
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u/Militantpoet 9h ago
It’s honestly good for us because they don’t know how to make things happen even with all that money.
Maybe in the first term. But they wised up by getting all these political think-tank people involved in policy while they continue to pilage our nation.
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u/IndecorousRex 8h ago
170 billion of our money! I’m sure he and his rich donors are profiting very much from this god awful bill.
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u/tom-branch 5h ago
Oh they are, not to mention members of his administration, both Miller and Homan are heavily invested in private companies that happen to have gotten all the contracts in relation to ICE detention facilities, meaning they are lining their own pockets.
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u/RoninMagister 11h ago
It appears like he's doing this on purpose: draining funds meant to protect our country to make them become agents of ICE instead.
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u/xKirstein Florida 10h ago
The entire Republican party, and their rich donors, are in the process of overthrowing the United States government. They're intentionally draining (federal, state, and private) funds everywhere to cause our government/economy to collapse; they'll use the resulting chaos to consolidate their control/power. Another thing to keep in mind is that a bankrupt United States government won't be able to effectively retaliate against them if their coup fails.
Don't forget that Republicans (and their rich donors) have allied with Russia (and China). They've made a Devil's bargain; power in exchange for the destruction of the United States and our allies.
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u/FunctionalGray 11h ago
Alright can I get a show of hands for those of you who had, "Trump bankrupting The National Guard" on their bingo card....
Anyone? No?
Me neither but here we are.
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u/KelenaeV 11h ago
I had him backrupting all of the USA government so its coming to ahead with all the spending he's spending.
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u/Ruleseventysix 10h ago
No, because he has a long history of not paying them to begin with. You save a lot of money by not paying people.
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u/Usual-Caregiver5589 9h ago
Wyoming troops were deployed to D.C. in January to provide security during Trump's inauguration. That deployment cost $250,000 from the state's readiness accounts, and Wyoming is still waiting to be reimbursed by the federal government.
Yeah that sounds about right.
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u/thieh Canada 11h ago
If he is issuing EO to take over, shouldn't he be footing the bill from somewhere? Sue the administration for the money or injunction from further deployments until that becomes funded.
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u/11_25_13_TheEdge 10h ago
He does not care because he can see Peter giving him side eye from the pearly gates. He knows he’s never going to see the cleanup of his mess.
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u/Angstrom_Wither 12h ago
To be wildly conspiratorial: what if this is part of the plan? Exhaust individual state military resources and then transition to the same occupation only with the massively-empowered ICE brownshirt brigade when this state-level line of defense has been exhausted.
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u/WCland 10h ago
My understanding is that the federal government pays for National Guard deployments that it calls for.
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u/Angstrom_Wither 10h ago
Trump's IOUs aren't worth the hamburger wrapper they're scribbled on.
"Because we are tackling a national emergency allowed to happen by these liberal hellhole governors, we're going to make them pay for it!"
Bada bing, bada boom, the buck is passed and somehow no one will ever call him on it. Guard languishing away to nothing due to no funding and then he can even point to the bullshit scenario he just concocted in order to pass blame to the same governors he's busy fucking over.
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u/imdatingaMk46 9h ago
Yes, but it's harder than that.
A state's national guard budget is about 96% federal, with the vast majority of that 4% remaining going to facilities (armory buildings, training sites, etc).
We're talking about readiness funding, which is title 32 funds (entirely federal) appropriated by the NDA annually for operating costs.
If you run low on title 32 funds, you start cancelling drill weekends and annual trainings, as well as sending people TDY for schools and so forth.
Title 10 (in support of federal operations, like overseas deployments) are a whole other kettle of fish paid by the requesting MACOM, and SAD (state active duty) is paid by the state, but is less common because it's not free.
Currently there are only title 32 deployments in the US, meaning the governor has assented.
For clarity, the feds have never been good about reimbursing additional title 32 funds. It's been a thing happening since the 1913 Dick act, or whatever.
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u/counterweight7 11h ago
Let me get this strait. Piss off hundreds of thousands of well trained military personnel who no doubt have guns at home, and know how to use them, is the plan? Against ICE who is hiring uneducated untrained 18 year olds? Oh.
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u/Justame13 10h ago
That isn't how it works. See the National Guard, Police, and 101st Airborne during the Little Rock 9 issue.
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u/smersh101 11h ago
The National Guard isn't really a state military force. It can be federalized at the whim of the President and can't realistically be used to fight federal law enforcement agencies.
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u/Justame13 10h ago
Which happened during the Little Rock 9 when President Eisenhower mobilized the entire Arkansas National Guard then ordered them to their armories.
Then had active duty troops (the 101 Airborne) escort the girls into the school.
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u/atgmaildotcomdotcom 10h ago
This has been his goal from day one of term number two. This is a bust out. He’s wringing the fed dry to sell it off to the highest bidder. Exactly how he ran his casinos, exactly how he ran his airline.
These mob tactics are so fucking transparent I genuinely can’t wrap my head around people talking about anything else (aside from the pedophilia release the un-redacted list)
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u/KIERKEGAARDthe7th 8h ago
Here's a fun fact. Every time he deployed troops to Washington DC and California, the soldiers were not given standing orders. Meaning they weren't getting paid. Hence why most of them just stood around doing nothing. Because it turns out Trump is so incompetent, he can't do the one thing every dictator ever absolutely made sure to do to stay in power: pay their troops.
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u/toonstick420 8h ago
🚨 This isn’t “immigration enforcement.” This is constitutional collapse.
Habeas Corpus is suspended. The government can now lock up anyone — immigrant or citizen — indefinitely with no trial. Due process is already gone.
Posse Comitatus is suspended. State National Guards are being armed and used against civilians inside U.S. borders. That isn’t policing — that’s military occupation.
Crossing state lines is the breaking point. Iowa’s Guard (or any red state force) entering Illinois without an EMAC request to enforce federal law is not “cooperation.” It is the textbook definition of MARTIAL LAW.
⚡ Why this is even more dangerous
- Rex 84 is now effectively legal. What was once a FEMA “exercise” to detain civilians in camps during a “national emergency” is now a live framework. The same legal levers — habeas suspension, Guard deployment, FEMA authority — have been pulled.
- ICE facilities = FEMA camps. Built under the guise of COVID protection and “migrant detention,” they can just as easily revert to their original designed function: holding U.S. citizens en masse.
- Armed rifles & sidearms = rules to kill. The moment National Guard troops are issued combat weapons, they must be given Rules of Engagement. That means there are already written orders covering when they are authorized to use deadly force — including on U.S. citizens if a “firefight” breaks out. Once soldiers are armed, the conversation about when they can unalive civilians is no longer theoretical.
- Martial law requires an actual war, terrorism, or insurrection. None of that exists right now. To arm and deploy soldiers across state lines without it is a direct violation of the Constitution.
- Selective suspension doesn’t exist. If trials are denied to immigrants, they are denied to all of us. The Constitution doesn’t work like an à la carte menu. Suspend it for one group, and it’s gone for everyone.
🧨 What this really means
If 19 states pledge to march armed Guards into other states to enforce federal law, that is half the country declaring they will override the sovereignty of the other half. That isn’t immigration enforcement. That is martial law by action — without the legal justification.
👉 And here’s the chilling part:
Say the wrong thing, crack the wrong joke, or be in the wrong place — and you can now be taken. No lawyer. No trial. No rights. Just gone.
⚠️ Our rights aren’t being chipped away. They’ve already been suspended.
This isn’t hypothetical. This is Rex 84 in practice — martial law unfolding under the cover of “immigration enforcement.”
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u/alabasterskim 11h ago
Here I was thinking the states sending guards were going to run out of people, forgot to consider they could just run out of cash.
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u/jpla86 8h ago edited 8h ago
How in the fuck does a country, whose military now has a $1 trillion budget and just gave one of its Gestapo law enforcement agencies, ICE, $160 billion to carry out its bullshit, run out of money for anything?
I don't ever want to hear anything from the federal government about 'running out of money'.
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u/TheF0CTOR Virginia 8h ago
"Sorry we can't feed your child who's legally obligated to be under our care during half of the year, we spent all our money terrorizing brown people."
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u/Exact_Acanthaceae294 11h ago
I've been asking this for a while (I used to work DoD budget back when I was in).
Money gets tight as of 31 July (end of Q3). In addition, this money wasn't put in the POM 4 years ago, so every dollar paid out on this is coming out of hide.
The next issue is going to be troops.
All of these folks have jobs - and most of them are going to get fired for missing work due to these deployments.
AND, we can expect some of these folks to work the system so they qualify for a Title 2 pension - which is also not budgeted for.
Yes, I know it is illegal, but I don't see the Pedo-in-Chief stepping up to address this.
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u/PoliteIndecency 10h ago
Canadian here. Is it legal to fire someone for a deployment? Aren't they guaranteed some sort of leave if called upon by the state?
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u/Exact_Acanthaceae294 10h ago
No, it isn't legal. Doesn't stop businesses from doing it.
When I was in the TX Army National Guard, the state JAG was downtown all the time dealing with this through the courts.
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u/PoliteIndecency 10h ago
That's fucking wild to me, man. I never served but I have friends that have. They can still be called back even though their commission is over but their current employer needs to guarantee a job for them when they return from reserve deployment if it were to happen.
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u/Exact_Acanthaceae294 9h ago
That is the law.
Doesn't stop business owners - ESPECIALLY THE SMALL TRUMP LOVING BUSINESS OWNERS from firing them.
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u/KnotSoSalty 8h ago
The GOP spent much of the last 100 years blanketing the nation in Right to Work laws that basically give employers wide clearance to terminate employment for a variety of reasons.
Before you go thinking these business owners are heartless, remember they have to hire someone else to cover the work the NG soldiers aren’t able to while on deployment. When the soldiers return then they have to terminate that person. With a large company that’s possible if problematic but for small businesses that sort of switch and switch back can be fatal. Right about the time you get the new person trained, they’re gone. Then the NG soldier gets deployed again.
Point being; DONT DEPLOY THE NG FOR NON-EMERGENCIES.
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u/Iyellkhan 10h ago
generally speaking, for the services US society wants/expects, its undertaxed and thus underresourced to enforce all sorts of matters. doubly so under this administration's efforts to cut an already moderately lean bureaucracy down to nothing. So if a problem like this is too large, it will only get selectively perused or enforced. mix that with the very pro business culture in the US and you can be SOL
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u/yoppee 11h ago
Not only are you getting deployed to another state
Having to leave your day job we won’t guarantee you are going to get paid
MAGA
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u/TintedApostle 11h ago
and your job may be there for you when you get back, but the Boss will think hard about the choice projects and who gets them.
Trump is using these people and their futures.
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u/westfieldnc 11h ago
And with DEI and affirmative action being so evil, will companies even want to hire members of the national guard moving forward?
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u/uniklyqualifd 9h ago
Imagine you have to leave your career for these bogus campaigns.
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u/Comprehensive-Ad4815 Colorado 8h ago
I doubt the federal government is actually paying them.
Im gonna bet that trump is federalizing them but making the states pay.
All to distract from the kid raping of course
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u/eatsumsketti America 10h ago
I'm curious as to why they aren't rolling ICE in instead didn't they just waste millions of our taxpayer money on that?
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u/Winter-Explanation-5 10h ago
The money for that comes from Medicaid and Medicare. But the cuts to Medicaid and Medicare don't go into effect until after the 2026 Midterms. Ergo, the funding for ICE probably won't go into effect until then either. I'm not sure, though..
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u/Fragrant-Ad-5517 8h ago
Don’t worry, the new fascist militia aka ICE, can help foot the bills now.
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u/toonstick420 6h ago
I have alot to say sorry rabbit holing how armed nat gaurds from outside states armies enforce homelessness legally here are some thoughts
🚨 Homeless Americans Are Now Military Targets
This isn’t “just immigration enforcement.” Homeless U.S. citizens are being lumped in — and that changes everything.
🏚️ Homeless People = Citizens
- Homelessness is not a crime.
- Being unhoused does not erase citizenship or constitutional rights.
- Every homeless person still has due process, habeas corpus, and protection from unlawful detention.
⚖️ What Trump Just Did
- Armed National Guard units are being deployed nationwide under the banner of fighting immigration, crime, and homelessness.
- That means the Guard’s rifles, sidearms, and Rules of Engagement now apply to American citizens whose only “offense” is being unhoused.
- Habeas corpus is suspended — once it’s gone “for immigrants,” it’s gone for everyone. Homeless citizens can now be detained indefinitely, without trial.
🚨 Why This = Martial Law Against Citizens
- Posse Comitatus: The Guard cannot enforce civilian law unless under insurrection or war. Homelessness doesn’t qualify.
- Rights Don’t Work Selectively: You cannot suspend trials “for immigrants” and keep them for citizens. The legal mechanism applies to all.
- Military vs. Poverty: Using troops to “clear” encampments means citizens are being treated as enemy combatants.
🧨 The Chilling Part
If homeless Americans are now military targets, then every one of us is vulnerable.
- Crack the wrong joke? Wrong place at the wrong time? You can be detained like them.
- This is not policy anymore — this is martial law by stealth.
👉 Homelessness isn’t a battlefield. These are Americans. If they can suspend rights for them, they can suspend them for you. Our rights aren’t being eroded — they’re already gone.
⚠️ This is the first time in U.S. history the government has pointed armed National Guard at its own citizens under the excuse of “homelessness.”
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u/Vaaaaaaaape 6h ago
When they were here in LA, they did absolutely nothing other than stand at the entrances of federal buildings being bored out of their minds. They had nothing to do. It was a complete waste of money and time. We have 3 police departments in this jurisdiction that are more than capable of securing those buildings (LAPD, LASD, CHP).
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u/Iyellkhan 10h ago
congress authorized 5T in new debt. and thats not counting the revenue they've been impounding. plus if the military is ordered to spend the money, even if its not appropriated, its likely still a legal order. in fact I cant imagine how it would not be a legal order. so basically this only goes awry if the bureaucracy follows the law and doesnt authorize the needed funds. however its not unreasonable to assume they'll just follow orders, the law be damned.
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u/mces97 6h ago
Does that mean they also don't get paid? Cause, I doubt they're gonna do their job for free.
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u/Harmless_Drone 10h ago
Even better, he keeps deploying them without orders for only 29 days at a time so they can't claim deployment pay.
My memory may be bad but I'm pretty sure not paying your troops after making them do deeply unpopular things they don't like is a great way to get a coup.
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u/Igotdaruns 10h ago
They are trying to bleed them dry so that there’s no money to respond to the ICE gestapo.
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u/Apprehensive_Cheek77 8h ago
I feel like this is going to lead to terrorist attacks. Our military is being spread too thin, our intelligence is a joke and the department of defense inept. I would be licking my chops if I was a terrorist, domestic or foreign.
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u/maybeinoregon 8h ago
100%. It’s what they want.
Turn us into an Afghanistan.
Tired of road blocks? Drive into one with an IED.
Afraid to leave your home? Leave with a suicide vest.
It’s what some people voted for.
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u/DragonWarrior980 8h ago
If California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Michigan, Hawaii, Colorado, Minnesota, Maryland, and Nevada decide to NOT recognize Trump and this regime and hold the tax dollars hostage (which would be convenient given how they crippled the IRS), then government won't have money for shit. Even the military would come to a halt.
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u/toonstick420 8h ago
Please web search GMC
🚨 From “Good Moral Character” to Social Credit
Trump’s immigration rule isn’t just about crime records anymore.
It’s about proving you’re a “Good Moral Citizen.”
That means:
- USCIS isn’t just asking “Did you break the law?”
- They’re asking “Do we approve of your behavior, your lifestyle, your choices?”
⚡ Why this is dangerous:
This is social credit logic.
- If they can deny citizenship because you don’t meet some vague “moral” test, then rights aren’t based on law anymore — they’re based on opinion.
- Once that standard exists, it spreads. Today it’s immigrants. Tomorrow it’s you.
🧨 Connect the dots:
- Habeas corpus suspension + Posse Comitatus = rights already disappearing.
- Rex 84 framework = detention infrastructure already exists.
- Now GMC = a morality scorecard deciding who deserves rights.
This isn’t about safety.
It’s about building a system where your freedoms depend on how well you conform.
👉 TL;DR: “Good Moral Citizen” isn’t just paperwork — it’s the seed of an American social credit system.
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u/furverus 6h ago
Any of you all think he's doing this shit on purpose so Russia can fuck things up and we can't do anything about it?
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u/mt6606 11h ago
Oh well, just do what you do best. Privatise it, what could possibly go wrong
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u/lactose_cow 10h ago
the national guard will go bankrupt and putin will drop tanks on US soil and maga will still say 5d chess
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u/VRGIMP27 10h ago
And so many people say that having the Democrats run things would've been worse, or the same.
You can't have an intelligent discussion about policy or the way the country should go with that level of cognitive dissonance
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u/darkstar3333 9h ago
National Guard gear (and contracts) sold to ICE for discounts. Likely blamed on Biden because why not
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u/Fickle-Molasses-903 8h ago
The majority of white people who voted on November 5th, 2024: 'We love that Trump is doing this. BTW, all we care about is the cruelty to LGBTQ and non-white people. Eight months in and three plus more years of this.'
Among those who voted, 60% of white males and 53% of white females supported a racist, fascist, sexist pedophile.
SMH
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u/Pink_Squadron_Medic 8h ago
AIPAC and Israel are not concerned as long as they are still getting paid
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u/RefrigeratorNo1160 8h ago
Fucking over veterans wasn't enough for him. Now he's going for active duty.
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u/ReasonableMuscle1835 8h ago
Our fiscally responsible GOP reps will find the money….in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, FEMA and Pell Grants. They’re fucking turds
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u/thomport 7h ago
Oh, there’s plenty of money for military.
It’s the other things that the average person needs to make their life better that the United States, and have money for.
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u/ExtonGuy 7h ago
You mean the NG want to get paid? And suppliers demand payment for diesel fuel? That's ... woke, that's what it is! Probably DEI too!
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u/tom-branch 5h ago
Trump is likely to leave the NG without actual funds to respond to real emergencies, all so he can play political theater.
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u/Huuuiuik 4h ago
West Virginia has the highest number of citizens in poverty and that’s what they’re spending money on. And making sure trans people aren’t using the wrong outhouse.
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u/Yuna1989 4h ago
So since the feds took over the national guard…does this mean, should a civil war happen, states will be left vulnerable because their state guards are used elsewhere/against them?
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u/JerseyshoreSeagull 4h ago
Never look at your enemy as incompetent. Always prepare for the most despicable and shitty behavior.
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u/Hero-Firefighter-24 Europe 2h ago
He owned casinos before being president and bankrupted them. Are you really surprised?
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u/NoMommyDontNTRme 2h ago
spread this one among any national guardists you know.
unpaid military might be even less inclined to break the law for a pedophile rapist.
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u/OkRush9563 1h ago
That's part of the plan. Trump is a Russian asset. He probably doesn't even know why Putin wants this, just that he does. Useful idiot.
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u/thewildspice 1h ago
Hope the money runs dry before he sends them to Philadelphia cause I know damn well they coming to my city
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u/PedanticPaladin 41m ago
And all those reservists doing pointless national guard duty instead of their civilian jobs has got to be great for the economy.
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