r/politics • u/ufosloth • 10h ago
Soft Paywall JD Vance Is All Smiles When Asked Whether He’ll Be Succeeding Trump
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jd-vance-is-all-smiles-when-asked-whether-hell-be-succeeding-donald-trump/7.7k
u/simpersly 9h ago
People need to be asking Trump this. Simply say things like "hey when you die in office, is JD Vance going to release the unredacted Epstein files?"
The paranoia it would create would be so fun.
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u/ABCosmos 7h ago
I feel like just asking if he endorses just Vance as his successor would be wildly triggering to Trump and might cause him to try to the same thing he did to Pence.
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u/SirKorgor 7h ago
He was already asked back in October 2024 and said, strongly, “no.”
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u/tamman2000 Maine 6h ago
He is too simple minded to conceive of a world without him in it
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u/CHSummers 6h ago
I’m sure he’s pondered whether he’s the only real human and everyone else is a robot.
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u/Ill-Growth-742 6h ago
I'm not sure he is capable of pondering anything but a lunch menu.
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u/CHSummers 5h ago
But no matter how much they bleed, he still feels no pain. Isn’t that proof they are only machines?
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u/SumpkinPeeds 6h ago
Then he endorses Miller and the end times begin
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u/HiHoJufro 6h ago
Lol as if the heritage foundation would let someone who isn't some shade of Christian follow Trump.
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u/JMaboard I voted 7h ago
Or just bring this up “Vance has been all smiles when he was asked about succeeding you. How do you feel about that?”
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u/CharlesB43 7h ago
They'd probably have to ask "if" and not "when". Trump is just a petty, fragile, pedophile, and would claim that's a threat of violence and have that journalist arrested.
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u/HookerofMemoryLane 6h ago
I wish reporters look through these threads before going into press conferences.
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u/chrisms150 New Jersey 5h ago
I wish they'd just ask a single hard hitting question....
or just be truthful in their reporting of things like the national guard being used to "combat crime"... they're 80% responsible for normalizing this shit.
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u/Ttoctam 6h ago
"No, that dude is even more under the thumb of the oligarchic fascists than I am. Celebrating my death will run short, when the ruling class have an attack dog in charge that they can actually control shit's gonna get worse not better."
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u/tamman2000 Maine 6h ago
I work that he might put a polite vaneer on the policies and have moderates saying he's not so bad so let's negotiate with him while he finishes selling the US for parts
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u/SurveySean 6h ago
When Trump dies in office, then the religious right just get more religiouser. Then they can start worshipping him like he is a god, and Trump can finally become some sort of fucked up religion/religious symbol. Then the US can change its name to Trumpistan, and everyone can finally be happy and smile, or face the firing squads.
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u/Relative-Carob-6816 Australia 9h ago
It's why he's taking as many tax payer funded holidays as he can now. It's why he had the meeting with Murdoch. He knows what's up. He will have to do real work soon enough and be the puppet that he is for Thiel and co
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u/RednevaL 8h ago
First he killed the pope Now he’s killing the republican king He might be the antichrist
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u/loztriforce Washington 7h ago
That’d be funny if the antichrist was a couch fucker
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u/tokeallday Colorado 7h ago
I think the antichrist almost certainly would wear eye liner
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u/Feisty_Low_7828 7h ago
And fuck couches.
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u/Plausibility_Migrain 6h ago
Yeshua was a carpenter. He was also the son of a carpenter. Building furniture wouldn’t have been outside the skill set. Vance dicking down furniture would be antithetical to the building of furniture I would think.
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u/Memetic1 5h ago
No back then they just made accommodations in the furniture. They call them love holes, and that's why when people say something is biblical it's so weird. People in Biblical times were just different. We shouldn't judge them too harshly for their odd love of holes.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 6h ago
Peter Thiel does no such thing but he does inject the blood of young humans PEOPLE HAVE SAID
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u/lavender_salamander 7h ago
Whoa whoa whoa. Let’s not disparage people who wear eyeliner. But your point stands.
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u/grundleplith61616 6h ago
In their defense, they're not saying eyeliner makes you the antichrist. Just that the antichrist would probably wear eyeliner. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are the antichrist.
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u/SomethingAwkwardTWC 6h ago
I’m no scholar of theology but I think people are supposed to like the antichrist and that rules JD out.
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u/Shadpool 6h ago
They like him at Ashley Furniture. Longtime customer, that one.
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u/No-Foot-261 5h ago
These couch jokes just never get old. Like Gavin Newsom’s tweets. They both make me laugh EVERY. TIME.
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u/Recent_Ad_2724 6h ago
Antichrist is supposed to be charismatic and attractive. Don’t think this dude checks those boxes.
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u/thewartornhippy 7h ago
I don't live far from where this douchebag has a house in Cincinnati. He comes here way too often and he shuts down roads and makes everything insanely inconvenient. Like Trump, it seems like he spends more time on fucking around than he does actually working.
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u/Aliensinmypants 6h ago
The one thing Cincinnati and SD shares, Vance being a fucking public annoyance far too often
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u/Jainith Maine 5h ago
Who exactly do you think is doing the real work now? Trumps schedule was previously published, it was vet clear he wasn’t doing any significant amount of work last time, you think he is 4 years later? When he offed his first VP candidate a portfolio of domestic and foreign affairs, what was left? Acting like a jackass in front of the camera and doing nothing requiring actual effort?
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u/nycdiveshack I voted 5h ago
The folks behind all this are people like Russ Vought (head of the office of budget management and primary author of project 2025) and Howard Lutnick (commerce secretary and former Cantor Fitzgerald which is the biggest supporter of the heritage foundation). They want an era of isolationism for the U.S. because they think this country can prosper with the right access to raw materials and straight labor. It’s why they are working on shutting down access to proper education, having Trump go on and on about acquiring Canada and Greenland which is partly for resources and accessibility but also as a buffer zone to the rest of the world. They have been convinced into thinking AI will figure out all the problems with Elon Musk (SpaceX/Starshield/Starlink/Grok) and Peter Thiel/Palantir. Elon Musk has already announced he won’t push for a 3rd party, instead he is putting his support behind Vance. With Trump being sick it’s not long before Vance is in control.
Palantir is what found Elon his adult and kids DOGE team which most people have forgotten is really USDS which has access to most federal agencies. Understand that the decision by Trump to fire the NSA chief and his deputy may be in fact be the most dangerous decision Trump has made so far. Timothy Haugh like his last 2 predecessors were restricting the access and control Peter Thiel had through his company Palantir over the CIA/NSA to commit domestic surveillance. Palantir (just got $10 BILLION contract with the US government) who is now the biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA based on publicly available data on DOD contracts (they had $750 million added to their current contract a while back) along with providing day-to-day operations for both agencies. Palantir is contracted with state and local governments and police here in the U.S. The goal for Palantir is and always has been domestic surveillance. Palantir is an intelligence corporation which provides advanced analysis, sigint, osint, criminal and threat awareness and kill chain efficiencies to all levels of US, UK, and corporate agencies.
Now comes the push for removing Trump from office.
Elon was the early test to see if scapegoat mechanism would work and it sort of did for him. Which is sort of the plan, scapegoat mechanism at its finest. Peter is a key believer of scapegoat mechanism for which he says Trump fills that role. Thiel has been grooming JD Vance since 2011 as his benefactor and mentor, Thiel brought Vance to Mar-a- Lago to smooth over things with Trump so Vance could be VP, Thiel gave Vance $15 million in donations to run for Senate (the largest amount of money ever donated to a single Senate candidate ever)
Scapegoat mechanism is simple that you have someone in power take on a lot of bad actions then remove them and so the masses feel it’s been all undone. The test case was Elon and DOGE which worked perfectly seeing as how all the federal investigations into Elon are gone and DOGE is still at all the federal agencies. Elon’s employee Amanda Scales still has the private server setup at OPM. All the data they got from the federal agencies and Treasury department when they had hard physical access is still under their control.
In September when the gap fund bill signed in March expires along with the deferred resignation program kicking in and the SSA/IRS data being handed over to Palantir as part of the doge plan they have provided for updating the SSA system there could be a lot of reasons for him to be removed from office.
Peter Thiel/Palantir just got what they wanted, access to a big enough database for the first step in complete surveillance.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-citizenship-database
Peter is also a major defense contractor for the UK intelligence community and army along with the major police forces in the UK. He branched out to their healthcare a few years ago with a contract to shift through all the data at NHS England which is done now so Kier announced that NHS England will be shutdown (not NHS). Peter through his company has full access to Norway’s government and civilian surveillance services. Peter/Palantir provides direct support for the IDF (Israel) in all their operations from Gaza to the West Bank to Iran.
Thiel directly owns roughly 180 million publicly traded shares which 7%. His investment firm Rivendell 7 owns 34 million publicly traded shares. Other Thiel vehicles own 37 million shares. Thiel entities also own 32.5 million supervoting Class B shares in Palantir. Those class b shares carry 10 votes while public ones carry only 1 vote per share. Now here is the kicker for why he still controls Palantir (link below), Thiel has sole investment power over 335,000 class F shares as part of a trust that has 49.99% voting interest in the company.
https://www.barrons.com/articles/palantir-stock-chairman-peter-thiel-b63415c7
Alex Karp the ceo of Palantir knew Thiel well before 2003 when Thiel tapped him to be ceo. Karp has condemned “woke” ways of thinking, calling woke a central risk to Palantir, that Palantir is a counter-example to companies he considers woke. Karp condemned pro-Palestine protests calling them an infection inside of our society, he remarked the peace activists are war activists and they should be sent to North Korea. Karp has said the west has a superior way of living and said he supports Palantir contract with ICE and using the software to enable separation of families.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/alex-karp-hill-summit-trump-00155571
Peter Thiel
• born in West Germany, grew up and went to school in the city of Swakopmund in West South Africa, the city was notorious for its continued glorification of Nazism to a dad who was an engineer working on uranium which was in violation of international law
• Partners with Elon Musk at PayPal, early investor in Facebook
• self-proclaimed Christian nationalist, believes women right to vote is wrong, idolizes Curtis Yarvin and Yarvin’s philosophy on replacing democracy with authoritarianism all in Peter’s own book
• Palantir after its creation in 2003 was bailed out partly by In-Q-Tel the CIA’s venture capital firm
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u/WetFinsFine 9h ago
this was the P2025 gameplay all along
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u/Caraes_Naur 9h ago
Trump is a Trojan Horse.
We don't know how many factions' soldiers are waiting within, other than Peter Thiel's Cabbage Patch Kid.
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u/mikecws91 Illinois 7h ago
How do we get the factions to eat each other
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u/Caraes_Naur 7h ago
Once Trump dies, that is inevitable.
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u/BeerForThought 5h ago
There's going to be a definite vacuum of power. When Trump dies I bet JD Vance tries to don the Red Maga crown and it won't go well.
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u/Caraes_Naur 5h ago
Personality cults are non-transferable.
Especially since Vance has the charisma of a leprous hemorrhoid. He doesn't believe any of the MAGA crap, he is beholden to Peter Thiel, who is all in on Curtis Yarvin's insanity.
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u/Eagle4317 9h ago
One of the main Project 2025 architects (Peter Thiel) getting his hand-picked puppet (JD Vance) as President is really dangerous.
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u/Hadrian23 7h ago
I keep seeing this, why?? Vance is as liked as a cactus butt-plug, even among MAGA. and he has negative charisma, I doubt he can get the GOP to dance to his tune like Trump can.
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u/The_Beardly America 5h ago
I think that’s the only hope we have. MAGA only works with Trump. There will be infighting and a major power vacuum without him.
Hopefully it renders the GOP utterly immobile.
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u/pennyxlame 5h ago
We're very lucky they're so fucking stupid.
I agree that the base will split. No one will agree on a central figure. They're all a bunch of lying grifters who hate each other. Trump is the glue that holds all of it together. Without him the maga movement comes apart.
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u/Frick-You-Man 6h ago
I think there’s a bit of a (frighteningly reasonable) assumption that by the time Vance comes to power—or shortly after—electoral politics will lack significance
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u/StorminNorman 4h ago
by the time Vance comes to power—or shortly after—electoral politics will lack significance
I'm reasonably confident we'll get an answer to this at the midterms.
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u/AnyInjury6700 8h ago
We're beyond fucked already. America is done
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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 8h ago
Individually some may be doing good. As a whole, the country is fucked.
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u/thederevolutions 7h ago
Sir, this is a Wendy’s and the president is a cheeseburger.
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u/SpartanLegends I voted 7h ago
Yeah it seems so far they are following that document to the letter. He might be more dangerous, at least Donald Trump had 4 years of "experience" as the President of the United States. It's scary either way.
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u/Bookofdrewsus 9h ago
JD Salinger warned us about phonies like him.
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u/al_with_the_hair 7h ago
What do they know? Do they know things?
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u/Tonsilith_Salsa 9h ago
He knows he will because trump will be dead from congestive heart failure before Christmas.
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u/sunnysidesnuff 9h ago
I'm probably reading into it but he just smirks whenever Trump is saying his weird dribble, like some guy waiting in the wings for some old timer at a job to retire.
Quite frankly, any crazy shit Trump says or does will make him look sane by comparison. Not that it won't stop him from throwing Biden under the bus as well.
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u/DoomOne Texas 9h ago
My biggest worry is that when Vance takes over after Trump wheezes out his last cheeseburger-scented exhalation, he will be able to become popular by simply not shitting himself in public.
People will be so happy that Trump is gone that Vance will seem like a titan, and then we could be stuck with Vance for eight more years.
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u/sunnysidesnuff 9h ago
I'm not sure if MAGA would accept him. He wasn't really that popular of a running mate and people aren't gonna buy merch with Vance on it. Also, there's some narrative that Trump is some great business man or negotiator.
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u/lost-picking-flowers 9h ago
If there is anything that my time in MAGA country has taught me, it's that a lot of his grass roots support is driven by vibes, peer pressure, and fear of being 'otherized' by the only real sense of 'community' a lot of folks have. It has been woven into the social scene of rural America. This became exceptionally apparent to me during the pandemic, but it never fully went away after either.
I don't want to underestimate Vance's support because a disheartening amount of people will simply fall in line - but the figurehead of the MAGA movement dying could peel off support.
It might not though, and we have to be prepared for that - look at scientology with its founder and the current figurehead, David Miscavige.
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u/spikychristiansen 7h ago
i'll note the trump children are basically nowhere to be seen this presidency. what's the deal with that?
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u/clintgreasewoood 7h ago
Scamming and making money off the proximity of the president but doing it in the background this term.
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u/Hadrian23 7h ago
Quietly funneling money to thei offshore accounts, or having PTSD breakdowns over their implied raping by dad. (See Ivanka talking about her bed with a thousand yard stare)
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u/Yeahhhhbut 7h ago
There's a difference between supporting your candidate and being all in. I supported Biden in the general election in 2020, but not in the primaries.
MAGA will wear his hats, put up with his ludicrous bullshit, ignore the things they hate about him (looking at you, Christians).
Vance can't pull that. And every Republican who has been waiting 9 years and hoping to inherit MAGAland will be tearing each other to pieces without an heir apparent.
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u/wholelattapuddin 7h ago
Vance is awkward, has a brown, non Christian wife, (i know, she converted) and has zero charisma. Also Maga will cannibalize itself without Trump. That's why they have to win the midterms by any means necessary. If they dont secure the midterms, MAGA is dead. Im not saying something awful won't take its place, just that MAGA is on borrowed time.
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u/xX_Koraidon738_Xx 4h ago edited 4h ago
Vance is far more unlikable too because he's outwardly spoken about restricting people's freedoms many times. He's very vocally anti porn and anti marijuana. He's also strongly anti choice and contraceptive, but Trump is too on this.
Vance's views on women won't win him very many suburban women votes either, since he comes off as an incel neckbeard. At least Trump comes off as more old-fashioned about it.56
u/Dr_Joshie 9h ago
I think that’s all we can rely on, the MAGA party tearing itself apart after the Big Beautiful Day. If they rally behind Vance, then I see 8 more years of this shit.
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u/spikychristiansen 7h ago
Vance is a weenie. Joe Rogan would beat him in a Republican primary, and it wouldn't be close. Let's hope he doesn't read this.
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u/I_Am_No_One_123 8h ago
MAGA hates him/his brown wife/and their kids.
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u/maeryclarity South Carolina 8h ago
Plus I feel sure he and his buddies poisoned Trump! Look how healthy Trump was until he got into office!
It's all a massive conspiracy! Those folks love a conspiracy!! Follow the breadcrumbs and stuff....do your own research!
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u/absentmindedjwc 7h ago
Start spreading this one now. This could stick and absolutely ratfuck vance...
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u/maeryclarity South Carolina 7h ago
Oh I definitely am. And all kinds of other stupid shit too. Super tired of taking the high road. JD Vance his OWN DAMN SELF said out loud that he was justified vilifying his OWN CONSTITUENTS with the "eating the dogs" bullshit that he knew was bullshit, but he said it's okay as long as it conveys a feeling and gets attention.
So hey let's freakin' goooooooo
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u/degjo 7h ago
See what happened to the pope after Vance met him? Its a slow burn with Trump.
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u/Middle-Letter-7041 7h ago
That's actually a very compelling point. I'm sure Peter Thiel (gay elite) was pleased.
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u/CarrionWaywardOne 7h ago edited 7h ago
Well who stands with more to gain than Vance. What's in those IVs? Why is Trump's decline so marked? Why is Vance smiling when it's brought up? I mean, at one time Vance railed against trump. Suddenly he's all for the guy 100%? Sure.
We all know Vance is about Vance. He's a weasel. Can't be trusted like maga trusts trump.
Vance doesn't love maga like trump does.
Yes. Maga, do your research on Vance. Because he's going to want you after hes done with his boss.
Edited the last line to appease the warning I just got.
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u/maeryclarity South Carolina 7h ago
Yeah he and Theil were always using Trump, now they need him out of the way, and they're going to come for your guns as soon as they have you all convinced that it was about immigrants and liberals. They only actually care about power and control, they're looking for a future where AI drones patrol every street and make sure you're always where they tell you to be, but meanwhile they have to get in power first and Trump's in the way.
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u/Crimkam Texas 9h ago
There are still plenty of never trumpers in the cohort that didn’t vote that will vote for Vance as a return to normalcy
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u/Lower-Lion-6467 9h ago
It wont matter much by then. He wont need their support anymore.
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u/nerphurp 9h ago edited 9h ago
He doesn't have the charisma to get away with what Trump does.
Trump's magic is his ability to mumble non-committal and often incoherent positions in a way that invites the listener to imagine whatever the hell they want it to mean.
Vance can speak, he's articulate, and his attempts to dumb himself down aren't unlike Democrats trying to dumb their message down to appeal to Trump's 2024 voters.
Doesn't work.
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u/Bircka Oregon 8h ago
Well that and like I talked about in other threads other have tried to imitate Trump running for some political office, and for the most part they have done jack shit doing so.
This shit seems to work for Trump and maybe a few others, it doesn't work for the majority. If you think anyone could walk in and duplicate what Trump does to appeal to people you are dreaming.
Just because the Democrats hate Trump does not dissuade the proof that a good portion of this country loves the dude. Shit, he might have the most fervent fanbase of any Republican since Reagan.
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u/D-MAN-FLORIDA 8h ago edited 8h ago
Vance has negative aura and charisma. He comes off as a slimy odd guy, that’s awkward in his own skin. Like I know people are weary about Newsom, but I think Newsom could beat him on just his aura. Especially in a debate. Also another thing to look at is, Trump’s policies are Vance’s policies. Vance is a supporter of Project 2025, he even wrote the foreword for it. So, he will still pass all of the unpopular policies, but not have the protection of the cult of MAGA or to rely on his personality, like Reagan did with his policies.
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u/remfem99 8h ago
I agree with this take. Vance is not politically immune, as trump has been thus far.
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u/D-MAN-FLORIDA 8h ago
He isn’t the lowest rated VP in modern times for nothing. Which is quite a feat. No one really thinks about VP’s but he is so bad personality wise, that he has a higher disapproval rating than approval rating.
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u/Grand_Stranger_3262 8h ago
Not 8. No more than 7-1/2 if he takes over before Jan 20th 2027, no more than 10 if he takes over afterwards.
My wager has always been on Vance being expected to take over no later than Feb 2027. That’s what Peter Thiel paid for.
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u/macbookwhoa 8h ago
Trump has a weird charisma cultivated over 50 years in the public eye. Vance will not inspire the same loyalty.
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u/zedsmith 8h ago
The guy who underperformed every other Republican running for senate is not going to be suddenly likable when he explains that recessions are good, actually. He’s not a natural politician, he’s not very likable, and he’ll be the end of MAGA.
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u/IlikeJG California 8h ago
All these people who are thinking this situation just suddenly goes away once Trump dies are delusional.
The people voting for Trump are going to transfer their loyalty and adoration to whoever Fox News tells them to. Which will end up being Vance at least until the next Republican primary.
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u/kloiberin_time Missouri 7h ago
MAGA isn't going to fall in line behind the weird millennial propped up by the gay tech billionaire, who people joke about fucking a couch, who's wife and kids are "brown."
He's fine as the VP, because he's a powerless, chubby, Gríma Wormtongue little stooge, and that doesn't threaten Trump. He's not the guy who inherits the throne.
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u/Luke_Cocksucker 9h ago
It will be a christmas miracle 👼🏼
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u/tgt305 8h ago
The people that helped get Trump elected want Vance in charge anyway. Something about frying pans.
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u/Professional_Deer464 9h ago
I'm thinking early 2027, he has the money for top of the line healthcare that can drag this out a bit.
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u/justfortherofls 7h ago
“Doctor” here. Most likely he’ll live well past Christmas. Statistics for a president don’t really apply as their medical care isn’t something that is available to the laymen. He probably won’t finish his term though at this rate of symptoms. And I am legally required to make those quotation marks.
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u/Virtual-Pie5732 9h ago
I saw a doctor do a video who said he'd give Trump 8 - 9 months factoring in the man's stress, age, and eating habits.
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u/FuzzyComedian638 9h ago
Age and eating habits I agree with, but I dont think trump takes his job seriously enough to be stressed about it.
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u/Ministry_of__Truth 8h ago
Seriously, he has probably spent more time in office golfing than actually governing. He outsourced that to the goon squad
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u/MadRaymer 8h ago
When my grandfather (in his early 80s) experienced foot swelling as bad as Trump's, he lasted less than a month.
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u/Preeng 7h ago
How evil was your grandfather? I find this has a big impact on things.
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u/boofles1 6h ago
That guy isn't a doctor, he says he has a doctorate in a health field or something. Not that what he is saying isn't true but he's not a medical doctor.
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u/SharpCookie232 8h ago
He certainly couldn't win an actual election. Newsom would wipe the floor with this couch-fucker.
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u/CommonSense66 8h ago
Just throwing my two cents in here…and it’s just a hunch…but, if the felon dies and the couch f’er becomes pres, magats become way more divided because there really isn’t a #2 that can keep the party together. I think it will be the “excuse” needed for those who really want to leave the cult, to do so and feel like they are “saving face”. There will be lots of fighting for control and, if the Dems and the people don’t take advantage, then we don’t deserve our democracy. I don’t see anyone in magaland with the ability to rise up and take control when the felon is gone. But, that’s my two cents to this thread. 😉
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u/dafunkmunk 7h ago
Knowing trump is going to die or fuck up bad enough that the gop can actually impeach him without upsetting maga is why he has been on vacation the entirety of his term as VP. He's pretty much setting up "plausible deniability" for all the problems trump has causes when it all catches up and everything starts collapsing. He's also doing everything he can to avoid stepping on trumps toes or upsetting him because he knows any chance of him reigning in the maga cult can be completely shattered by one single trump tweet.
He's fully kissing trumps ass as hard as he can while also setting up throwing trump under the bus to avoid any blame to all the problems he's going to inherit
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u/wrathmont 7h ago
People are talking about the hand makeup and the worry about Heaven, but the biggest tell for me that something’s up is when he specifically said the sentence “I hear I’m not doing well”. That feels like a very Trump way of saying that his health is really bad but not many people mention it.
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u/Starbucks__Lovers New Jersey 7h ago
I told my wife I have a feeling none of our kids will be born during a Trump presidency. She’s due to give birth in April 🤷♂️
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u/i_code_for_boobs 9h ago
he's probably poisoning Trump.
Iznogoud!
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u/whelmed-and-gruntled 9h ago
People are saying that. Lots of people. Smart people. They say he’s poisoning the ketchup. The most poisonous poison that anyone has ever seen they say. Can’t be trusted.
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u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns Kentucky 9h ago
With how rapidly trumps health appears to be declining I wouldn’t rule out that possibility lmao
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u/fastcatdog 8h ago
He has the charisma of a bag of ham when the orange is gone he’s out
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u/ProofHorseKzoo 5h ago
He’s Peter Thiel’s lapdog. He was installed as VP for this exact purpose. This is all part of project 2025. Silicon Valley billionaires want a techno-fascist version of handmaids tale.
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u/kanzenryu 3h ago
I really don't understand why that group would want that outcome
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u/FriendToPredators 7h ago
I think they might try him for a bit. I wonder how peaceful things really are behind the scenes all of these people love them some power
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u/Stunning_Mast2001 9h ago
This is the real reason musk stopped his 3rd party
His boy is already locked in
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u/PennCycle_Mpls 7h ago
That whole cadre isn't a team though. They're a bunch of backstabbing one-upping squealers.
Adam Conover did a good post on it.
https://youtu.be/3_PKKUFxRyk?si=N4C6_iiMU9ZY38HA
When he croaks, they're all gonna try turn into the elementary school line budgers we know they are. Guarantee the backstabbing kicks off before the funeral. We've literally watched the same thing happen when the dictators we installed in other countries eventually kick it and the power vacuum starts.
And none of them have the sick twisted cult that Trump does. It's gonna be hilarious in the same way that an ice storm in TX is. I feel bad for the fallout but I can't stop watching.
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u/Aliensinmypants 6h ago
Nah, JD Vance isn't a player. He is a puppet for the oligarchs. He will be the face of the movement until he is no longer useful or is the useful fall guy.
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u/clickmagnet 9h ago
My theory is that the next Trump will not be anyone from a Trump administration. Possibly not even from the Republican Party. To look like a tough guy to morons, it’s problematic if you’ve been their previous tough guy’s grateful fluffer for four to twelve years.
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u/FriendToPredators 7h ago
I think they tried to regurgitate Sarah Palin into the public eye earlier this year, then she vanished again. Like a moth addled by the flame of power she fluttered around and bumped into a few walls and then the power brokers shrugged and said, eh, guess not.
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u/eightdx Massachusetts 7h ago
Ugh. Knocks on wood
Joe Rogan, probably.
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u/clickmagnet 7h ago
Well, there are other criteria. Has to be a ginormous racist asshole, for one thing. I’m not sure Rogan delivers the goods on that score. On the other hand, I honestly think they already elected the world’s most accomplished living asshole, everyone else is bound to disappoint.
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u/Remote-Union-4829 8h ago
breaking news: utterly sauceless man (who can't take a vacation anywhere in the world without getting shit thrown at him) really thinks he's gonna be respected as a leader if he ends up inheriting the presidency
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u/Inevitable-Ad9760 9h ago
I dislike Trump but he's a force of nature. Vance sold his soul for power but he's riding some else's coattails. He's no Trump
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u/Hyro0o0 California 9h ago
Good. I want the GOP's top man to always be the weakest most useless turd possible. We don't need anything to help their agenda in the slightest.
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u/SquadPoopy 8h ago
The best possible outcome is that after Trump goes to hell, the Republicans implode as someone rushes in to try and take control over MAGA. With any luck it’ll go the same route as most cults once their leader dies and just dissolve.
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u/AndrewCoja Texas 8h ago
He won't have any power. He sold his soul to Peter Thiel, who will be making his decisions for him.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 9h ago
Trump will get all the occupations in place, take control of blue cities. Trump will take the blame for all the violence that stems from it. Then Vance will take over and maintain status quo
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u/electrobento 8h ago
Oh dear god, can some mod please finally ban the Daily Beast? Watch the video. This is sensationalist, Fox News-level bullshit.
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u/joni-draws 7h ago
They won’t. There’s nearly 300 comments and 1k upvotes. It drives engagement. I hate it - they’re like the modern day political equivalent of the National Enquirer, but Reddit has motives, as well.
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u/flyinsdog 9h ago
Elon and Thiel didn’t buy the election because they are huge MAGA’s. They bought it because their preferred choice for VP was on the ticket. They feel he’s the right guy to establish some techbro led futuristic oligarchy.
I imagine they are happy to have Trump hold on to power until Jan 21st 2027 then they’ll try to install Vance as he’ll be able to run for a full 4 year term 2 times giving him 10 years in charge.
I don’t think these guys will be able to pull it off since they are all ADD/Aspergers assholes with no charisma. But they will try.
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u/verothon 8h ago edited 6h ago
I'm reminded of a line from "Chinatown", When Jake asks corrupt millionaire Noah Cross "Why are you doing it? How much better can you eat? What could you buy that you can't already afford?" Noah Cross: "The future, Mr. Gittes! The future ..."
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u/spikychristiansen 7h ago
current psycho rich people are so high on their own farts (and other stuff) that theyve entered full shi huangdi "i shall live forever" mode...this is why they hide from sunlight and such.
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u/friskerson Illinois 4h ago
I just started the Netflix miniseries on Anna Delvey and it’s interesting to see the dialogue (real or imagined) of the socialite elite vs. the tech bro elite. Tech never stops talking shop. They live to work, to leave a lasting legacy, while their (usually female) partners live for pleasure/fleeting fancy.
Thiel wants more than anything to cause immense change in the world. To leave an impact. To write history. To mean something in a world where money has lost all sensation because of our mathematically rigged capitalist system (snowball effect means you aren’t as clever as your bank account might suggest, just luckier). Digs away at self-image.
This should have everyone and their brother wary of accelerationism. Technofuturism. Authoritarian surveillance state. Evaporation of privacy. All your biometric data for sale just like your browsing data is, to hundreds of hungry brokers. Did you run that red light on April 1st 2035? All your biometric stats line up (eyes, facial structure, hair color, shoulder width) and you do own a blue polo like that one, purchased from Old Navy in March, shown in your bank receipt for $45 (bargain! With inflation like it’s been after the tariff-induced wars of the late 2020s). Welp, time to pay the ticket. Welcome to Peterfuturism. In the wake of all the kid diddling, a hell of a name for a movement.
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u/onlyonequickquestion 7h ago
But they have basically infinite money, so they just might make it work
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u/MPMorePower 8h ago
I am exactly convinced they are planning to replace Trump on almost exactly the Jan 21st 2027. They’ll prop Trump up with experimental drugs if they have to until then, and if he croaks “early” they’ll “Weekend at Bernie’s” Trump with deepfake videos of him taking an “extended retreat” at Mar-a-Lago until Jan 21st 2027.
Then on Jan 21st they’ll cut off his “special” meds, and if he doesn’t actually die Vance and everyone will suddenly be gravely concerned about his swollen legs, bruised hands, and chaotic slurred speech and abruptly 25th him out of office. “Who could have predicted that Trumps health would ‘suddenly’ become so bad?”
Then Trump will be quietly sequestered away “for his health” and no he won’t be seeing reporters, “please respect his privacy.”
Thiel is betting on being able to manipulate the next two elections enough to overcome Vance’s lack of charisma. I’m hopeful he’s wrong but I guess we’ll see.
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u/PBandJellyfish77 8h ago
JD Vance has shown time and again that he is willing to do anything or say anything to angle for power. And he's so excited that he's this close.
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u/jacscarlit Oregon 5h ago
Might explain Rubio too. Nothing he's done, signed off in, or said sounds like him. I thought for a long time that Trump must have something on him, but maybe he's made a pact with Vance and is holding onto this position no matter what. Heck, Trump keeps giving him more and more work like he's hoping that Rubio will crack or quit. He's definitely not one of Trump's picks.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 9h ago
He wants to have that couch in the Oval Office all to himself
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u/once_again_asking California 7h ago
No one succeeds a cult leader. When Trump goes, MAGA will fall apart. I am not claiming that any of the GOP/Project 2025 bullshit will fall apart - not directly anyway. That is distinct from MAGA. MAGA was a means to that end. But MAGA as an organized movement is over when Trump goes.
This is because they have no actual tenets they believe in - they only believe in Trump.
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u/DrinkNWRobinWilliams 7h ago
The problem for JD is history. Charismatic political movements in which a single person represents themselves personally as the savior of a people and as embodying the hopes and dreams of his (it’s never been a woman in this position…it’s a man-thing, so sticking with ‘his’) nation in his person (“only I can fix it”) almost never translate their movement into a viable succession.
The only two exceptions are N Korea (which became a totalitarian dynasty) and Spain (which ultimately turned to democracy shortly after Franco’s death when his planned monarchy didn’t work out). Absent a whole lot of violent political suppression, JD just isn’t that popular and nor are any of the Trumps.
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u/zer0_dayy 6h ago
i crack up at the idea that most of America will just support this guy after Trump is gone.
JD Vance couldnt motivate me to make a ham sandwich lol
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u/ThrowawayUser917 8h ago
Oh, they're talking about his successor now? That's how you KNOW his health is so bad.
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u/kostac600 7h ago
I heard somewhere that Vance is always bringing in big sacks of burgers and fries to meetings at the White House
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u/TheNewTonyBennett 5h ago
Trump is ill, might have congestive heart failure, his incredibly random quote of "I'm hearing I'm not doing well" and "I want to go to Heaven" when asked about his sort-of "about-face" with the Ukraine.
That's not something that piece of shit would say if he weren't ill in a very bad way. Trump does NOT volunteer info like that especially about his health. Dude might actually be dying.
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u/roadsidefoto 8h ago
He's spent the last several years slowly building up a resistance to iocaine powder
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u/boogies_nanny 8h ago
I don't think Republicans even like him. He gets booed everywhere he goes! I know trump gets booed a lot but he also has his fans that really love him. I don't believe JD Vance has that same following!
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u/VonSauerkraut90 7h ago
Vance is just so genuinely unlikable. I think hes more dangerous than Trump but I also think the Magat base, the house, senate, or even the SC will tolerate a fraction of what they tolerated with Trump. Hopefully means they cut his shit off at the knees.
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u/Katgal2 7h ago
There is no cult of Vance. Everyone thinks he’s a total moron. He’s been forced on us by Thiel and Heritage Foundation. He’s not just a hypocrite he’s creepy, smarmy and wholly unlikeable.
If they can’t get 2026 rigged then we will have a much bigger chance of having a candidate destroy him in 2028. But you can tell by the fact that he’s already taken 7 vacations this year that he’s already assuming he’s King of the U.S. and probably is poisoning Donold behind the scenes
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u/Edgar505 5h ago
Everyone hates JD Vance. He will just lose as a presidential candidate
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u/Surprise_Special 5h ago
Vance is a joke! He will sit there and lie his a** off and think nobody knows what he is doing. Wake up, people!
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u/Galactic-Guardian404 4h ago
He’s unlikable and hypocritical, but on the up side, he has 34 fewer felony convictions to date than the last nominee!
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u/senteryourself 4h ago
Is there anyone who actually likes JD Vance? He’s legitimately the most unlikable person I can think of.
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u/jertheman43 7h ago
I hope he does. He's a pretty boy couch fucker who can't possibly hold MAGA together. He might be more organized than Trump but he's no leader.
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u/runwscissors42069 7h ago
What a worm. Im sure the pope's last words were "JD go forth and starve your hungry, refuse care to your sick, deny shelter to the masses and take more money from the poor so that they too become one of the first 2 mentioned."
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u/himthatspeaks 6h ago
He won’t. Trump will pass away soon and the whole maga movement will crumble forever! Justice will come sweeping through like a tsunami.
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u/Skastrik 2h ago
That Oval office couch is shaking in fear right now.
But yeah, he hitched his wagon to an old fat guy with health issues and took some shit willingly.
He should be smiling.
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