r/politics • u/Antinatalista Foreign • Dec 13 '17

Black voters just saved America from Roy Moore

https://thinkprogress.org/back-vote-alabama-jones-8da18c1d8d7a/
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u/CoreWrect Dec 13 '17

At the very least grant them a decent opportunity in the nation that takes their taxes

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u/GunnieGraves Dec 13 '17

Yeah it’s not so much that they need policies that benefit them as policies that don’t target them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Por que no los dos?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17 edited Dec 13 '17

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u/mamertus Dec 13 '17

Equality usually is you paying the same amount of dollars in taxes as Bill Gates.

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u/friesncheese Dec 13 '17

One could argue equality is a slightly more complex issue than a flat tax rate.

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u/FreeCashFlow Dec 13 '17

So policies designed to correct and compensate for past wrongs are never good?

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u/sargsauce Dec 13 '17

Truth. Though there's also the aspect of policies that exclude them. Was listening to a story a while ago about the difference between income and wealth and how a lot of policies that came out after desegregation benefited those with wealth (i.e. property ownership, investments) which is kind of a backhanded way of targeting blacks.

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u/Gelgamek_Vagina Dec 13 '17

It's not so much that they need police that benefit them as police that don't target them.

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u/undercooked_lasagna Dec 13 '17

What bad policies specifically target black people?

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u/GunnieGraves Dec 13 '17

For an older policy, look at sentencing guidelines for cocaine vs crack.

For a more current example, voters required to have a valid id, followed by closing of DMV offices in predominantly black areas.

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u/undercooked_lasagna Dec 13 '17

It is a stretch to say any of those things specifically target black people.

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u/darealystninja Dec 13 '17

They happened in areas that majority of black people live there?

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u/undercooked_lasagna Dec 13 '17

Ok then high property taxes in affluent areas are specifically targeting white people and are racist.

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u/Xaxxon Dec 13 '17

the two are pretty much the same right now.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Well, not quite. We need both. Equality and fairness aren't always the same thing.

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u/DeadNazisEqualsGood Dec 13 '17

grant them a decent opportunity in the nation that takes their taxes

No one takes their taxes. Alabama, like most Southern states, gets more Federal dollars than it pays in. A study by a financial analysis company shows Alabama is among the most dependent on federal welfare to keep state government and services functioning.

Decades of single-party control have entrenched Alabama as a welfare state. This is an opportunity for them to fix that.

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u/dickskittlez Dec 13 '17

I think that's what he said.

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u/anechoicmedia Dec 13 '17 edited Dec 13 '17

At the very least grant them a decent opportunity in the nation that takes their taxes

On net, the black population of the United States pays no income taxes, their contributions being more than offset by transfer payments.

The fiscal burden of the federal government falls on whites and asians.

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u/Herbicidal_Maniac Dec 13 '17

Interesting take. We actually don't use black people to fuel our massive prison industry, pump up our militarized police state, and exploit their labor for the benefit of the rich. TIL.

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u/rugginislife Dec 13 '17

fuel our massive prison industry

By breaking the law?