r/politics Foreign Dec 13 '17

Black voters just saved America from Roy Moore

https://thinkprogress.org/back-vote-alabama-jones-8da18c1d8d7a/
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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17 edited Dec 13 '17

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u/CptnLarsMcGillicutty Dec 13 '17

the second their turnout actually decides elections, that will stop happening. its possible that just occured.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Dems have been trying to appeal to the black vote for decades, and Republicans have been trying to suppress it for decades. Make no mistake, both major parties have always cared about black people's votes. You'd just think the Dems would care more about the policies that they made promises about to get those votes in the first place.

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u/TreeRol American Expat Dec 13 '17

Which, frankly, I don't get. Democratic policies will benefit black people.

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u/davefoxred Dec 13 '17

Yes, but not enough. They want their dem politicians to actively work towards breaking down this country’s institutionalized racist barriers. Police reform, housing and zoning laws, etc. If that doesn’t happen after 2020 (I strongly believe the black community will continue this voting turnout to get these racist lunatics out of office), it may be the last chance we get. That means it’s incredibly important that ALL dem voters wake up to these needs and demand it from our politicians.

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u/TreeRol American Expat Dec 13 '17

It's just like I have to say to ultra-progressives (of which I am one): it's not going to happen overnight. Democrats in power are doing all they can to try to allow PoC to vote, or to not get murdered by cops. Or to give them health care. Basic fights are a huge struggle. You're not going to be able to turn around 300 years of economic, social, political, and judicial destruction overnight.

I mean, either Barack Obama didn't give a fuck about black people, or this is going to take a lot longer than 8 years to fix. I am not endorsing that fact, but I am acknowledging it.

I appreciate the frustration with having to ask "When are we going to be recognized?" The answer should be "a long fucking time ago." But to say both sides are equally bad because you're not getting everything you want right now is only hurting your cause.

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u/davefoxred Dec 13 '17

This is an important point you make. Thanks for adding.

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u/TreeRol American Expat Dec 13 '17

I'm glad to add my 2 cents, and to have it appreciated. So thanks to you as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

That or it takes more politicians giving a fuck about black people than one black president, and we had 8 years of Democrats not making the attempt. And 8 years before that we had 8 years of Democrats making laws that hurt black people.

Both sides aren't equally bad, but I'm not telling Republicans to be better, because I don't have any hope for them. I'm telling Democrats to. And so are many black Americans. It's time for us to start listening to them when they tell us how we can be better.

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u/martini29 Dec 13 '17

it may be the last chance we get

Wait, how?

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u/davefoxred Dec 13 '17

In that black communities will stop giving Dems a chance. If they don’t feel like they’re being listened to, then why bother voting? When they show up, Dems win. When they don’t, we lose.

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u/cvbnh Dec 13 '17

So let's not forget them this time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Absolutely not. I've updated my comment with a link to a Google Doc with a list of black women who are running for office. We should do for them what we did for Doug Jones: fight, hard, to get more black people in offices where they can shape the policy of this country.