r/politics Foreign Dec 13 '17

Black voters just saved America from Roy Moore

https://thinkprogress.org/back-vote-alabama-jones-8da18c1d8d7a/
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u/elfardoo Dec 13 '17

Because that's still part of black inner-city culture. That's why the right still stereotypes all black women as uneducated loudmouths.

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u/WatchOutForCats Dec 13 '17

I've seen plenty of big white and Hispanic women be just as loud and annoying in public.

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u/SexLiesAndExercise Dec 13 '17

And skinny. Honestly, look for confirmation of any stereotype and you'll find it. Living in a city, with thousands of tiny interactions of observations a day, you can use confirmation bias to confirm just about anything.

That's why there's extremists for everything. Extreme communists. Extreme liberals. Extreme conservatives. Extreme libertarians. Extreme Muslims. Extreme Christians. Extreme feminists. Extreme men's rights dudes.

And they all feed off each other. The internet may have made it worse: it's far easier to find the worst of the other group if you go looking for it. Then it's a small step to painting them all with the same brush.

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u/WarmYeti Dec 13 '17

Then it's a small step to painting them all with the same brush.

Exactly. It's ironic that this sub, which likes to consider itself very progressive sees no issue with painting all conservative white males with the same brush, while simultaneously criticizing them because they think that they do the same thing to others

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u/SexLiesAndExercise Dec 13 '17

I mean, if you make the distinction that it's a conservative male who doesn't currently support this administration, I think you'll see very different results. There's discussion, at the very least. And there's very little different between the response to conservative males & females, although there are fewer conservative women.

The problem is that that pretty much anyone who still self-identifies as a Republican in the US right now supports Trump or his administration. People might be making the jump from 'conservative' to 'Republican', and that's unfair.

But let's be realistic, people on all ends of the political spectrum (extreme but primarily non-extreme) make the jump from liberal to Dem or conservative to GOP. It's part of the polarization of the US and it's rooted in statistical fact.

If "liberals" as a whole are responsible for the Democrats, then "conservatives" as a whole are responsible for Republicans. Either no sides make that distinction, or it should be called out equally by everyone. Every conservative sub on reddit has zero qualms about this, in my experience. I had to unsub from /r/libertarian and I got freaking banned from /r/conservative where I used to post all the time. Don't even get me started on the "openly" Trump-supporting subs.

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u/WarmYeti Dec 13 '17

True, great points- but let's forget the "conservative" distinction for a second.

From where I stand, it seems that it is perfectly socially acceptable, (and even encouraged in certain places such as /r/politics) to stereotype heterosexual white males as privileged individuals with a penchant for racism.

Stereotyping other groups of people is off limits, but white males are fair game.

I think people use the fact that "white males have all the power" to justify their blatant stereotyping of individuals, which they so passionately shun when other groups are being stereotyped.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

lol the irate or passionate hispanic is such a stereotype too. Though I do make sure to remind my boyfriend a lot. It does not help

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u/thephoenixx Dec 13 '17

As a hispanic person, a lot of these damn stereotypes are true...but only for a certain set of hispanic. There are so many different kinds of us that it doesn't hold true for everything.

Like in that movie Fools Rush In, with the parents that have to speak every sentence in Spanglish no matter what, with the militant angry Mexican dad and the barely-allowed-to-speak-for-herself mom...I've met people like that. But my parents weren't like that, no one in my extended family is, no one I knew growing up was like that, but we were completely different kinds of mexicans!

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u/monsterlynn Michigan Dec 13 '17

I miss her way of not even trying to get around her unabashed Chicago black accent. And her downplayed but classic sense of personal style, lightly sarcastic sense of humor, and her common decency and poise. Michelle was such a wonderful first lady. Never shied away from the realities of her background and perspective, and never turned that into anything but an affirmation that America is a great nation that constantly evolves.

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u/Danger716 Dec 13 '17

That's because it's a poor/trashy trait and not related to genetics

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u/elfardoo Dec 13 '17

Of course, it's not a racial thing. I've seen plenty of white trailer trash types be obnoxious.

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u/likeahurricane Dec 13 '17

because that's still part of black inner-city culture.

Let me justify this stereotype with a stereotype.

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u/Petrichordates Dec 13 '17

What cities are you living in? That's certainly not true, at least in mine.

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u/Petrichordates Dec 14 '17

Ok, well it's certainly not true in Philadelphia. The hipsters are mostly confined to a few select neighborhoods, whereas minorities occupy entire regions (North, West Philly). Philadelphia is poorer than the national average though, so that could play into this.

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u/LoneWolfe2 Dec 13 '17

This is a great example of blaming the victim. Plenty of loud obnoxious uneducated sounding people of all races and sizes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Which is kind of ironic don't you think?