r/politics Foreign Dec 13 '17

Black voters just saved America from Roy Moore

https://thinkprogress.org/back-vote-alabama-jones-8da18c1d8d7a/
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u/sotonohito Texas Dec 13 '17

He claimed that was when "families were strong and stayed together".

By which we can only assume he meant white families, because of course black families were routinely torn apart by slave owners selling husbands, wives, and children to different owners.

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u/ehmath02 Dec 13 '17

And white families stayed together because it was social/economic suicide for wives to divorce abusive husbands

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u/TenTonsOfAssAndBelly California Dec 13 '17

I know that Roy Moore was being an absolute fucking racist ass hat, and this point is completely moot, but white families weren't more united then either. Maybe in Alabama, but not across the entire south. Regions and families in Tennessee and West Virginia were split between the Union and the Confederacy.

So in short, his myth is bullshit on multiple levels.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Ahh, those good ol' times, when America was great /s

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '17

Considering the 11th Amendment was ratified in 1795 (only 4 years after the Bill of Rights), we started our moral decline rather quickly!

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u/jingerninja Dec 13 '17

Ah, the good ol' days eh?

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u/Thersites92 Dec 13 '17

Yeah this "families were strong back in the day" is a hilarious little fiction that's used as justification for all kinds of dumbass viewpoints. A co-worker of mine tried to argue that black people in America were better off before civil rights bc there were fewer single parent households and it took me a solid 5 minutes to pick up my jaw off the floor before telling him to shut the fuck up.

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u/theoreticaldickjokes Dec 13 '17

I'm perfectly content with not having a father. Especially if the alternative is to perform backbreaking labor and you know, rape.

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u/Cheese_Pancakes New Jersey Dec 13 '17

I've also heard people say that black people should be thankful that they were brought over as slaves because otherwise, they'd still be in Africa.

There is no way to justify slavery and no reason the victims of it should ever be thankful that it happened.

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u/KalamityJean Dec 13 '17

I've heard this line a number of times. It's been a thing (some) conservatives say for...awhile. And they do t understand how evil it is/they sound, I guess. It really is disgusting.

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u/QQ_L2P Dec 14 '17

He's right about the black community suffering from single parent households. He's wrong about slavery though, l u l.

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u/LockeClone Dec 13 '17

Back when the good people of Alabama all had hook worm, stayed home on the farm out of a labor necessity and hanged any random the local vigilante squad could capture? Those good old days?

Why the fuck does anyone try to evoke this crap and what kind of slack-jawed yokel believes it?

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u/BlackSpidy Dec 13 '17

what kind of slack-jawed yokel believes it?

Well... See the red counties in this map? Those are the places where the majority of people looked at Roy Moore and said "yes, I want that man to represent me in the US Senate".

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u/van_morrissey Dec 13 '17

It's funny you say that, cause you can look it up... apparently some counties in Alabama are currently having hookworm problems...

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u/LockeClone Dec 13 '17

Yes, I know. TB is also making a comeback with some homeless populations. As a country we're backsliding in some very scary ways.

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u/Kerrigore Canada Dec 13 '17

I’m pretty sure what he really meant was “Back in the good old days your wife couldn’t leave you no matter what, so you were free to treat her like property. Plus, you could molest however many children you wanted, and if they were black, no one would care!”

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u/bodymessage Dec 13 '17

"You could even kill em! How i long for the days of the past"

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u/Mt-WesternHemlock Dec 13 '17

He is also blowing a dog whistle. In the white supremacist community there is a meme that black people were better off as skates because as skates at least their family unit was kept together (which isn't even true)

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u/itsamamaluigi Minnesota Dec 13 '17

Could it also be playing on the stereotype that black fathers don't stay with their family?

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u/KalamityJean Dec 13 '17

Maybe they could stop locking Black men in cages for petty bullshit. That might help.

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u/Notary_Reddit Dec 13 '17

That is a recent (since 70s) trend that conservatives blame on the rise of welfare (mother's are sure there children won't starve) and the drug epidemic (fathers are not around).