r/politics • u/slaysia • Dec 19 '17

Democrat wins Va. House seat in recount by single vote; creating 50-50 tie in legislature

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/democrat-wins-va-house-seat-in-recount-by-single-vote-creating-50-50-tie-in-legislature/2017/12/19/3ff227ae-e43e-11e7-ab50-621fe0588340_story.html?utm_term=.82f2b85b50fa
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u/Ownerjfa Dec 19 '17

Every single goddamn fucking vote counts.

Needs to be said over and over.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

*Except when Electoral Voters negate Popular Vote tallies.

Examples: GW Bush and Donald Trump.

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u/chargoggagog Massachusetts Dec 19 '17

That’s an oversimplification. The EC simply allows 2 extra electoral votes per state that aren’t based on population. It is those 2 votes that give small states a bit of extra leverage.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

I wouldn't give him that much credit. I think he was generally complaining about the national popular vote results vs. the winners of each state.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

Enough leverage to override the popular vote for two POTUS elections in the last four. If 33 electoral voters voted for Hillary everything would be very different today for 320,000,000 Americans and the rest of the world.

33 votes decided this election.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

That isn't how the electoral college works. They effectively do not have a choice in who they vote for when the actual "voting" happens.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

Not in the last election. Several electoral voters committed to Trump well ahead of seeing what their state popular vote tallies were. When asked if they would change to reflect the popular vote they said they needed to think about it. This is bullshit. A few dozen humans should not decide the fate of the country and by extension, the world.

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u/JMG_99 Foreign Dec 19 '17

Trump would've still won without those 2 extra EC votes per state.

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u/lurker_cant_comment Dec 20 '17

They still count, they just might be proportionally different.

In the case of W v Gore, 537 votes out of the entire state of Florida pushed us over to a surplus-turned-deficit, massive unpaid-for tax cuts, ignorance of dire warnings with regards to bin Laden that could have prevented 9/11, a multi-trillion dollar war based on fabricated evidence, "enhanced interrogation" and the mass incarceration without due process at Guantanamo Bay, the PATRIOT Act, the TSA, and all the other things I've tried hard to forget that Bush/Cheney managed to do.

Imagine how different our country's path would have been if just 0.01% more of Florida's Democrats had shown up to the polls.

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u/Axewhipe Dec 19 '17

Every single goddamn motherfucking vote fucking counts.

Needs to be said over and over.

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u/Stiffard Dec 20 '17

Yo why'd you add 'mother' to fucking

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u/Axewhipe Dec 20 '17

Idk. I guess I wanted to be cool and made it awkward now. :/

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u/Stiffard Dec 20 '17

Ain't no shame in that

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

Damn right