r/politics • u/slaysia • Dec 19 '17

Democrat wins Va. House seat in recount by single vote; creating 50-50 tie in legislature

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/democrat-wins-va-house-seat-in-recount-by-single-vote-creating-50-50-tie-in-legislature/2017/12/19/3ff227ae-e43e-11e7-ab50-621fe0588340_story.html?utm_term=.82f2b85b50fa
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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

by and large Stone and Parker are good about presenting both sides of an issue.

They really, really aren't. They despise environmentalism and they endlessly and relentlessly mock climate change.

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u/asminaut California Dec 19 '17

South Park tends to take a dim view on most people that seriously care about an issue, no matter how legitimate/illegitimate it is. Which is one of the reasons I feel like I've grown out of it.

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u/Pyryara Dec 20 '17

Yes, this. The political stance of the show has been "lol @ anyone who deeply cares about anything" for a very long time now and it is something that makes sense when you're a rebellious teenager or adolescent, but not as an adult.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

Dare I say, South Park was the forerunner of modern edgelordery.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

South Park tends to take a dim view on most people that seriously care about an issue, no matter how legitimate/illegitimate it is. Which is one of the reasons I feel like I've grown out of it.

South Park's ideology: you'll never care about the wrong thing to care about, and never care about something for wrong and stupid reasons, if you never care about anything.

It's actually vaguely nihilistic. And, for all the praise South Park gets for being "edgy", quite a cowardly attitude to have.

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u/OverlordQuasar Dec 20 '17

I used to like it, then I just kinda realized that the message of every episode is either "shut up and accept it, you can't do anything and if you do you'll make it worse" or "caring is for idiots." You can satirize political issues without telling everyone that they're all pointless.

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u/BigAbbott Dec 20 '17

It’s all noise, man. How are you supposed to know anything with the abundant misinformation? What are we supposed to be able to trust?

I can’t make informed decisions without valid inputs and I have none.

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u/opentoinput Dec 22 '17

Why do you think they do that?

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u/blandge Dec 20 '17

Because now you're one of the people they are mocking.

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u/kobitz Dec 20 '17

Man Bear Pig sure hasent aged well

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

It was just as stupid then as it is now.

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u/opentoinput Dec 20 '17

Why? Why the fuck would someone do this?

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

They're libertarians.

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u/npinguy Dec 20 '17

They make fun of douchy ELEMENTS of various liberal movements but they don't dismiss environmentalism outright.

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u/tehbored Dec 20 '17

I mean they did a couple times many seasons ago, but I don't really get that impression from any of the more recent seasons.

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u/DeseretRain Oregon Dec 20 '17

Seriously, when have they literally EVER presented both sides of an issue? Every single episode is just pro-libertarian and anti-everything else.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '17

One of their most famous episodes was pro environmentalism. (The future immigrants one)

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u/stayxvicious Dec 19 '17

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it so I may be incorrectly remembering but didn’t they decide at the end to give up on recycling and taking care of the environment in favor of resuming the gay orgy?

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u/whiskeysunset Dec 20 '17

Back to the pile!

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u/tehbored Dec 20 '17

Yeah, but that was clearly poking fun at Americans' backwards mentality, not at environmentalism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

No they ended on taking care of the environment.

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u/stayxvicious Dec 20 '17

Funny, because Wikipedia seems to state otherwise:

The entire town begins to recycle, install solar and wind power devices, plant trees, give to the poor, etc., hoping to cause the Goobacks to disappear. Although the townspeople's efforts are successful and the Goobacks begin to fade away, the boys observe that the work is "gayer than all the men getting in a big pile and having sex with each other", and with an exclamation of "We're sorry, back in the pile!", the male adults including the boys resume their orgy.

Seems my memory is better than I thought.

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u/whiskeysunset Dec 20 '17

Let’s be honest it was way funnier that way.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

What the fuck was the point of this conversation if you could just find it on wikipedia (and did?)

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u/Giants92hc Dec 20 '17

The point of the conversation certainly isn't too spew bullshit, which looking it up corrects.

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u/stayxvicious Dec 20 '17

To correct the misinformation you shared. What’s the point of any conversation on Reddit? Relax, my bro.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

Why did you ask me in the first place?

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u/waiv Dec 20 '17

"alright, this is gay, let's go back to the redneck homosexual idea."

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u/100WattCrusader Dec 19 '17

In what episode besides the day before the day after tomorrow?

Not trying to be a dick, generally interested as I’m rewatching South Park now, and can’t remember a second episode discussing it fully.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

That one, the rain forest one, manbearpig, the electric car one, and probably several others.

They really, really hate environmentalists.

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u/100WattCrusader Dec 20 '17

Oh yeah. Now I member’.

In all seriousness that does make sense. I’m hoping it’s more of a “we don’t hate the environment, just the people for it, because their so damn smug and annoying” (even though I don’t agree that the majority are annoying nor smug).

They have made fun of the rights involvement in the environment in the past afaik, I’m rewatching, but a few episodes that come off the top of my head are the ones that feature jimbo and Ned hunting, just relentlessly trying to kill anything and everything for no given reason.

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u/bobtheundertaker Dec 19 '17

Examples? I watch a ton of South Park and I’m not coming up with anything

All I can think of is manbearpig but if you think that was mocking climate change believers you should probably watch again

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17 edited Dec 20 '17

All I can think of is manbearpig but if you think that was mocking climate change believers you should probably watch again

It really, really is. Al Gore is running around and warning people about something and they're mocking him.

Then there's the rain forest episode, the Day After Tomorrow one, the electric car one, ect.

The one constant in South Park is how much they hate environmentalism.

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u/bobtheundertaker Dec 20 '17

At the end of the episode manbearpig kills everybody though, so the entire point was “you guys made fun of al gore, but look he was right” you are wrong about that episode. No question.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '17

You are mixing up episodes. Manbearpig kills everyone in the Imaginationland episode, not in the original episode, which also cements the fact Manbearpig is imaginary.

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u/MatlockHolmes Dec 20 '17

Maybe you shouldn't add "no question" next time, since you're obviously in the wrong now and it's a worthless attempt to boost your erroneous comment anyway.