r/publichealth 2d ago

NEWS Robert F. Kennedy Jr. lashes out at CDC over Covid response after firing its director

https://www.tag24.com/politics/politicians/robert-f-kennedy-jr/rfk-jr-lashes-out-at-cdc-over-covid-response-after-firing-its-director-3415704
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u/EnvironmentalRock827 2d ago

Joke is on him and his lack of a degree

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u/bnelson7694 2d ago

I think he does have one actually. From the Facebook school of medicine. Prestigious, no doubt.

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u/HI808SF 2d ago

Nah, I'm pretty sure his doctorate was from here...

Trump University - Wikipedia

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u/EdmondDantes484 1d ago

Actually, I think he went to Hollywood Upstairs Medical College with fellow public health luminary Dr Nick Riviera.

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 1d ago

If you said Barry Zuckercorn I'd say he's the best. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. holds three degrees: a Bachelor of Arts in American history and literature from Harvard University (1976), a Juris Doctor from the University of Virginia School of Law (1982), and a Master of Laws from Pace University (1987).

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u/CeraKatherine 16h ago

How the feck can you study or remain upright at all when you're a fecking junkie and heroin dealer??!! I call BS. He got those degrees because of his name.

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 1d ago

Environmental law.

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u/fruderduck 1d ago

A law degree. Family probably bought it for him with a favor and a donation.

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u/ferwhatbud 1d ago

He’s a Kennedy and got his law degree from Case Western. Nuff said.

(Not a knock on Case Western, which is a very solid university…but i know a way lesser Kennedy who’s dumb as dirt, and even he went to Harvard)

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u/EnvironmentalRock827 1d ago

My mom was a JFK admirer and Catholic and often discussed the Harvard Gentlemen's C he got. He seemed a better human but education isn't everyone's cup of tea.

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u/megthegreatone 2d ago

This has been genuinely the worst year of my life and I don't know how much more of it I can take as a CDC employee.

I'm tired, boss.

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u/AppropriateScience9 2d ago

I bet. I'm in a state agency and my nerves are fried just dealing with the funding roller coaster. I can only imagine what you're going through.

We appreciate you, though. All of you. We know you're doing your best to do the right thing while working for people who literally despise you.

It's not fucking fair. None of it is.

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u/supercleverhandle476 1d ago

I left Public health after a decade in February.

I can most aptly describe my daily mindset as “survivors guilt.”

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u/Skittlepyscho 1d ago

I like CDC. I'm back at the VA. It's nice over here :)

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u/piller-ied 23h ago

Just down Clairmont, yes?

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u/mudpiechicken 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, you’re angry about being inconvenienced during a worldwide emergency… where people DIED. Oh no, you had to wear a mask and didn’t look like a tough guy. I’d blame the worm for eating the part of your brain with any empathy but clearly that’s not possible because it would mean most Republicans have brain-worms at this point and unlike Bobby I don’t make up epidemics.

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u/quaglady 2d ago

His reaction certainly makes sense considering he shut down so many research and data gathering functions under hhs first. Im still fuming about NIOSH and that's not even what I do. 

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u/evilmonkey002 2d ago

Fuck you, Bobby

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u/Soggie1977 2d ago

More spray tan?

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u/OysterPickleSandwich 1d ago

Starting to wonder if he thinks the worm in his brain needs to be fed by spray tan, only he thinks its melange (spice) from Arakis and the worm is shai-hulid (sandworm) from Dune.

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u/bluewhale3030 1d ago

Is it a spray tan or is he one of those people who believes sunscreen is what actually gives you skin cancer, not the sun? Because that would not surprise me one iota

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u/37Philly 2d ago

Bobby just trying to help his grift. He made a lot of money from pseudo science and dumb conspiracy theories related to Covid-19.

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u/quaglady 2d ago

Yep, foodnet stopped tracking several parasites (edit I was wrong its just cyclospora, but still; there's going to be so much money made in ivermectin now!). Public health is secondary to the grift.

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u/bd2999 2d ago

I wish there was someone there to confront these lies. They did mess up testing initially but they got it under control fairly quickly. There were private companies that also had initial lack luster testing. My knock on the CDC test initially was it was needlessly complex for what it was and prevented easily increasing throughput of assays. They should have done better but they did correct the mistake, it is not like they were wrong the whole time or even most of it.

The other stuff is an outright lie. The social distancing, masking and so on were all based on actual science and are not controversial. Just because some people didn't want to do it is another story. If anything there is evidence that social distancing was not far enough, but at the start there was nothing else to do and there was alot of evidence that these things helped. Even logically, it makes sense. It is not perfect but if someone sneezes the farther you are the less chance you get a concentrated burst and many large droplets are caught by the mask reducing your odds. And the data supported that.

The school closing I still think was a good idea at the time. The issues were not just on the CDC though. As schools are potential incubators spreading virus and those kids exposing more at risk people at home. And kids still do get sick from it, sometimes very sick. The downside was the lost education time and having to go virtual learning on the fly. Which highlighted regions by income and resources, which CDC does not control.

For sure it was a trade off and it could be tweaked in hindsight but people like RFK Jr. and others acting like this was all perfectly knowable at that point in time is a lie. The people complaining mostly made political arguments and cherry picked studies to show things. And their preferred methods had less support and more risk.

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u/grandmawaffles 2d ago

If they funded school during the summer for the year after kids would have made up what was lost.

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u/IamDollParts96 2d ago

We're F-ed unless prominent people in power speak up and act en masse.

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u/Kirstygirl-7199 2d ago

And we know they won’t. Taco 🌮 loves him

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u/37Philly 2d ago

Mostly true. But there are more of us than MAGA. The Heritage Foundation cannot prevail in their goal to destroy democracy.

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u/Icy-Map9410 1d ago

I’m not so sure about that. A group of billionaires tearing shit down and dismantling important organizations, a group who owns everyone and everything, is not foreshadowing anything good for this country….and this circus has only been in town for 8 months. They could easily complete their P2025 agenda of destruction by 2028.

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u/37Philly 1d ago

They are incredibly dangerous. It’s going to take massive effort to oppose them.

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u/IamDollParts96 1d ago

If you believe that democrats are protectors of democracy, this is why you keep losing.

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u/37Philly 1d ago

Who said anything about democrats?

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u/bluewhale3030 1d ago

Can we focus on the subject at hand, the dangerous fascists trying to turn our country into techno-Gilead?

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u/StLdogmom72 2d ago

Email your rep and senators now. We all want food safety, preventive medicine and vaccines and we want him out.

The CDC clap out today was amazing and is being covered. Raise your voices now!

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u/Designer-Contract852 2d ago

He needs to be stopped.  In a sane administration  he should be dragged in front of a committee to answer for his insane thoughts and mismanagement and then impeached.  I'm sure trump is threatening the lives of members of congress and their families to go along with all this insanity 🙄 

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u/Icy-Map9410 1d ago

You’re correct. Trump’s got everyone that could potentially interfere effectively muzzled.

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u/Kirstygirl-7199 2d ago

F him forever.

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u/buzzedewok 2d ago

Has anyone asked how Bill Cassidy feels about his vote for RFK now?

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u/Significant_Cow4765 1d ago

not his constituent but I send letters mocking his MD weekly

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u/Remote_Nectarine9659 1d ago

A psychopath intent on mass murder is mad at the people trying to slow down his mass murder.

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u/Clean_Lettuce9321 1d ago

The only thing dumber than taking Robert Kennedy’s medical advice is taking Donald Trump’s political advice. Neither of them has a clue, they’re just blowing smoke up each other’s ass, and Americans are going to pay the price. This is the most idiotic administration of my lifetime... and I survived Bush Jr. and Quayle.

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u/Significant_Cow4765 1d ago

*Quayle was H W's...W. gave us Darth Vader Cheney

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u/Clean_Lettuce9321 1d ago

It was never my intention to connect the two, just to bring up how incredibly stupid they both were.

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u/Captainkirk699 1d ago

We’re never going to recover from the damage these folks are doing.

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u/andorianspice 2d ago

This is all just so awful. It was an unprecedented and unpredictable situation and people did the best they could with the knowledge we had at the time

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u/natur_al 2d ago

I think Ivanka was actually writing the CDC’s briefs in 2020.

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u/Significant_Cow4765 1d ago

IvankaLabCoat.gif

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u/ViolettaQueso 2d ago

He’s incredibly spun in his head. That the main demented one keeps him on staff is terrifying for all of us.

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u/Ninac5 1d ago

This guy is such a pos

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u/ScrauveyGulch 1d ago

The Trump vaccines 😄

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u/bluewhale3030 1d ago

Trump etc always conveniently forget that it was his administration that oversaw the production and release of covid vaccines. Of course that only happened because sane people were in charge of our public health systems. 

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u/Theoretical_Phys-Ed 1d ago

As someone who studies diseases, including Covid, I think I hate him more than trump.

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u/Health_Wellness9227 21h ago

I never ever thought I could hate anyone more than Trump, but RFK is doing just as much damage to the country, and possibly more when you considered number of lives potentially lost. I’m starting to question my own sanity…is this really happening?

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u/superteach17 16h ago

I will not trust anything g coming from the CDC… ever again…