r/raidsecrets Aug 04 '25

Discussion Question about agraios mechanic

Once the 3 players get the temporality debuffs and one goes to get the alignment, can the 2 debuffed players not getting the alignment jump through the rings they see as blue? Or can debuffed players just not jump through any ring at all?

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u/jdewittweb Aug 04 '25

If the other two go through rings they will die. They can only lose the debuff by being inside of the vex reflect bubble.

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u/CrmsonFangs Aug 05 '25

Actually the buff is removed after you reflect the shot regardless of your position.

I was a buff person for my team and had a bug where my timer constantly reset so I was never close to the bubble and my buff was still removed

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u/rhylgi-roogi Aug 04 '25

When the buff named boss shows their attack, the player with the corresponding buff can see the one activated ring before they align. This is much faster than having the two other buffed players call out rings. For example, if Cyclical is the boss, the player with the Cyclical buff can look at the rings, find the true one (three in this example), and say all but three, then pick up the align. Once they align, they can no longer see the one activated ring, so it must be done before aligning.

Try this on your next run, it is super quick.

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u/ctrlaltredacted Aug 04 '25

as someone who has cleared trio, you're absolutely correct

not sure why morons downvoted you, but that's probably because they haven't even cleared the encounter

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u/VacaRexOMG777 Aug 08 '25

Bro had to mention the trio clear 😭

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u/Freakindon Aug 04 '25

Yeah, I told my teammates that and they didn't believe me lol. But buffed players absolutely can't jump through any rings? Kind of annoying there are 4 rings and 3 players available :/

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u/Dependent_Inside83 Aug 04 '25

Honestly having one player go through two rings should not be a problem. There are more than enough Minotaurs and if your plate players don’t just spawn kill the Minotaurs they tend to move closer to the rings making it even easier to grab the extra chronon and dunk

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u/Freakindon Aug 04 '25

Yeah, just trying to remove as much thinking from challenge runs as possible lol

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u/_NotGreatNotTerrible Aug 05 '25

Someone also said that eager edging thru more than one might double deposit but I havn't tested it myself

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u/wizz52 Aug 08 '25

What would you mean by align? When they go to dunk under the boss once they know which one is shooting?

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u/rhylgi-roogi Aug 08 '25

Yes.

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u/wizz52 28d ago

This saved so much time. Thank you!

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u/No_Championship_4165 Aug 04 '25

Players with plate buffs cannot jump through the portals. They will die.

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u/MineralMan105 Aug 04 '25

Having a Player with Temporality and a Chronon jump through one of the Rings will result in the Player dying, however, the Ring does successfully receive the Chronon despite the death. So in an environment where you’re tight for time or are speedrunning, you can sacrifice a rez in order to have another player activating the Rings.

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u/HFX_Crypto_King444 Aug 06 '25

Buffs. Debuffs negatively effect the player. Buffs make mechanics work.

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u/Freakindon Aug 06 '25

It kills you if it hits 0. It’s a debuff. Even if it’s for mechanics.