r/realmadrid 9d ago

Media Mbappe disallowed goal vs Mallorca 7'

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u/reddituser0912333 El Presidente 👑 9d ago

Yea I don’t know about that one – close for sure

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u/mileyxmorax Real Madrid 9d ago

I don’t buy these calls

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u/Nickaap Valverde 9d ago

The lines are right there…

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u/reddituser0912333 El Presidente 👑 9d ago

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u/Nickaap Valverde 9d ago

You thinking this angle gives you a definitive answer is a joke right?

The actual lines are in the video you’re responding to, it’s an incredibly small margin, but it’s offside.

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u/DetoxIV 9d ago

The fact that being in front of someone by a literal inch means you're offside is bs tho. There is no significant advantage gained by having your foot 2 inches further than the defender or if your head is further than the defender when the ball is being passed. This isn't a racing sport.

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u/Nickaap Valverde 9d ago

Changing the point of measurement won’t change anything, if the rules change to where a attacker needs to be fully past the defender there will still be 2 inch offside calls that people will complain about.

Regardless, by the current rules this is an objectively correct decision.

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u/CalligrapherDry1547 8d ago

remember what happens us vs bayern in 2024

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u/Archer_Key 8d ago

lewandowski case was worse than that.

It is what it is.

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u/CheckingForOffside 9d ago

But i mean its not that complicated you just gotta be fully behind that defender. Sure you could change the offside rule and make so that only even a little of the attacker's body has to be onside or so that its based on shoulder location and not entire body, but there still will be controversy and people arguing that it should've or shouldn't have been offside.

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u/blueXwho Fernando Redondo 9d ago

But how can you trust it when the replay and the VAR lines video were shown after more than 10 minutes?

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u/Nickaap Valverde 9d ago

Sorry bro, forgot what sub i’m in, i’m supposed to believe everything is a conspiracy against us, without any proof obviously.

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u/hagi02 8d ago

Why does that matter? Would it make a difference if it was shown after 1 min? 3 min? 5 min? At what point does it matter? Are you saying they are manipulating the VAR video? If so, that's the most absurd, unreasonable and ridiculous thing I've ever heard. You clearly don't know how this technology works if you think that's even a possibility. If refs are doing this, then why even have refs? Why even play the sport? Why does this sport even exist? Even if you don't understand the tech, at some point you have to just trust that they are acting in good faith, otherwise it's not worth even watching the game anymore.

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u/blueXwho Fernando Redondo 8d ago

Are you saying they are manipulating the VAR video?

I am not saying it is happening, but the longer it takes to show the images, the higher the possibility of manipulation.

You clearly don't know how this technology works if you think that's even a possibility.

Do you know how it works? The initial touch and the position of the players are automated, as well as the 3D render wirh the lines. The "semi" part of "Semi Automated Offside Technology" is the confirmation of that initial touch and other variables, like interference in the game, ball dispute, etc. VAR refs can determine that the initial touch is incorrect and have the system select a different one (earlier or posterior), then the system generates a new render. If there are no alterations, the render is available within seconds, and the VOR should send it to the broadcaster.

If someone in the VOR was changing the initial touch multiple times until they got the "right" render, then it would take longer for the image to be available for the live broadcast. Then, seeing a difference of several minutes between a close call and a normal call can raise suspicion.

If refs are doing this, then why even have refs? Why even play the sport? Why does this sport even exist?

The best way to avoid this and suspicions is to have transparency, release the logs that would show these multiple attempts, and release the audios.

Even if you don't understand the tech,

Wrong premise 😉

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u/hagi02 7d ago

Eloquent reply. But come on man. There no way you believe that this type of manipulation is actually happening. "selecting the appropriate last touch that I want so that I can get the render I want to see". Honestly, if you believe this is standard practice, I can't really reason with you. Sure, that's a possibility. Is it probable? No. That would be the end of the refs association for allowing that. Just because something is possible, doesn't mean it's probable. Have some common sense and stop believing in conspiracy theories. They're bought, they're corrupt, everyone is against my team and they'll stop it nothing to make sure this call goes a certain way. I can't man, just ridiculous. Can't be reasoned with.

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u/AdVaanced77 Real Madrid 9d ago

Bro you can tell even by this image that he is offside

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u/theZEN2 Zidane 9d ago

Nobody talks about the pass timing. How does the machine analyse it. During release from foot? Is it accurate? I dont buy this bs system. Its anti football and 2cm of hair being offside is ridiculous. Kills the sport.

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u/royrochemback Modric 9d ago

its much more accurate than the naked eye. that's for sure.

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u/Nickaap Valverde 9d ago

There’s technology in the ball for this, they’ll know exactly what frame of the cameras to use.

You can hate the rules, but this is objectively a correct decision.

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u/Consistent-Bit7574 9d ago

Now go search online who is the contractor who runs the VAR in La Liga.

Mediapro was founded by Jaume Roures and managed by Tatxo Benet, two catalans and known Barca socios.

And even if we're meant to believe that Mediapro isn't rigging the offside system, why would you choose a company whose owners clearly support one of the competing clubs, to run such an important tool whose decisions will decide the outcome of the competition? 

This is the classic conflict of interests that would only happen in La Liga. I'm not surprised. How do thing barca got away with paying Negreira for so long?

If the people behind VAR were madridista Socios there would a public outcry you wouldn't hear the end of it. And you know it.