r/rpg_gamers • u/Automatic_Couple_647 • 2d ago
Discussion What's an RPG that you'd recommend to someone who hasn't played any game in the genre before?
I've been thinking about how overwhelming RPGs can be to someone who hasn't tried any game in the genre before. Think large maps, choice-driven dialogue, side quests, large maps, and so on. For someone who hasn't played an RPG before, all of these elements can be a lot to take in.
So I'm curious, if you have a friend who told you they haven't played any RPG before and want to try at least one, what is that game and why?
Mine would be Skyrim since it's the RPG that opened the world of RPGs to me when I played it for the first time many years ago.
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u/4theheadz 2d ago
Ff7 (original)
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u/Esin12 2d ago
Yeah I was thinking the same-that or maybe IX
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u/4theheadz 2d ago
yeah 9 is really good too, as is 8
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u/Esin12 2d ago
Yeah 8's actually my favorite FF but for an entry level I think 7 or 9 would be better. Maybe X as well. 8 can be pretty tough to grasp with the junction system
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u/4theheadz 1d ago
yeah i would definitely recommend 7 before (not withstanding the fact that the story and characters are far better, despite 8 being a fantastic game) just on a mechanical basis. But playing them in order is what I would personally recommend. All such brilliant games, haven't played anything since considering I was a kid when they were released that have had that level of emotional impact on me and I've replayed all of them many times.
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u/El_Bolto 2d ago
Dragon Age: Origins. Its a pretty welcoming RPG.
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u/JejuneRPGs 1d ago
Right? DA:O was the first one I ever finished, and I LOVED it.
We were all playing our first RPGs once. The idea that it has to be simple or people just won't do it seems weird to me... I used to be that CRPGs were what RPGs were. You got sucked in or you didn't.
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u/Red_James 1d ago
Great game and one of my all time favourites…but not a good entry-level RPG due to the difficulty/complexity of the battle system. I would find it overwhelming as an RPG noob.
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u/BoardsofGrips 1d ago
I didn't understand that mages were open soon as I made my party 4 spell casters the game got a lot easier
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u/Upbeat-Object-7784 2d ago
Super Mario RPG the original SNES version is what got me into RPGs. The switch remake is pretty good.
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u/Chief_Rollie 2d ago
I was about to say this. It is light enough to be accessible and very interesting. Child me could play through this game and adult me still enjoys it.
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u/69buttcheese420 2d ago
Kotor, oblivion, or dragon age origins
Then get on bg3, but only when you are ready
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u/69buttcheese420 2d ago
I say oblivion and not Skyrim, only because oblivion has more of a traditional fantasy feel, better quests, and more rpg elements then skyrim. It's also just goofier than Skyrim, and it's a more fun entry point
I love skyrim, but i feel its focused more on action, and it doesnt have the same charm imo
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago
I think the modernized “controller feel” (or MKB feel) is super important to highlight, too. Oblivion Remaster kept 90% of the charm, enhanced the visual presentation, and improved so many parts of how it feels to navigate, look around, and engage with the world. Skyrim having the camera just be that much slower/more “old Bethesda”, not having jump-while-sprinting, the movement being a little less natural, it all makes TES4R feel so much better to play even if there are environmental or gameplay elements someone might prefer in Skyrim.
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u/69buttcheese420 2d ago
Absolutely, dual wielding is the best thing Skyrim added imo.
But yeah, Oblivion remastered may be the perfect starting rpg
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u/That_Sensible_Guy 2d ago
FInal Fantasy 10 or 13 - Because the story is linear and simple. If you want to ease them in. Start them out like that.
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u/RedditIsGarbage1234 2d ago
Chrono trigger is the correct answer.
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u/WolferineYT 2d ago
I love Chrono trigger but I think the amount of exploration and the fact there's typically only one specific way to progress would kill momentum for a lot of new RPG players. I think something that holds your hand a little more would be better.
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u/PurpleSquare713 2d ago
Dragon Quest is tons of fun and beginner friendly. You'll love 8 and 11 if you feel up to it, as they can be very long games.
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u/Sofaris 2d ago edited 2d ago
Final Fantasy X. It can be pretty tough but that can help them learn. I just give them the tipp on the way that if they get stuck a bit of grinding helps a lot.
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u/AdSingle7381 2d ago
At the risk of nitpicking with only a few scenarios I don't want to spoil most of the difficulty of FFX is post game optional content.
Personally I think for a relatively modern FF I'd recommend 12 or 6 for a classic. There are leaning curves to both but they have great stories and good (albeit very different) gameplay. 12 has a bigger gameplay learning curve mostly because the gambit system is much more intricate than the basic description you get in game and not all character development is made equally. 6 because party management can be a big challenge and once you're in WoR it's not always clear what your next step should be. Both have really strong stories (not to say 10 doesn't have one I love that game too) that at least for me hooked me from start to finish and at least for me that's what sucks me into an RPG.
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u/harumamburoo 2d ago
The Witcher 3. Action oriented, so it’s not as overwhelming as some tbc games with teams. Still a good story with many choices to make, which will affect the world and people around you and generally bite you in the ass when you the least expect
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u/Soundrobe 2d ago
Baldur’s Gate 3 or Pillars Of Eternity 2 to discover crpgs. Deus Ex or Cyberpunk 2077 or Mass Effect Le to discover arpgs Diablo 2 DE to discover diablolikes Dark Souls 3 to discover soulslike And so on... (jrpgs, tactical rpgs...)
You can’t discover rpgs with a single game as subgenres differ too much...
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago
I 1000% agree that there’s no one way to get someone hooked on the ENTIRE genre of RPGs, but I guess I think of it differently - how would someone who’s ONLY ever played Madden feel about Dark Souls? That feels almost like a “level 2” or 3 of RPGs. There’s so many parts of an action game that would help someone appreciate the details/unique elements of Dark Souls, without immediately getting swamped and likely overwhelmed by the difficulty.
But starting someone off with…idk, Oblivion Remaster, so they can get a feel for the importance of timing, position, engaging with various offense/defense options, that would be WAY MORE accessible than going straight to Dark Souls.
Similarly, I feel like Dragon Age Origins would be a great way to introduce both CRPGs and “third person ARPGs” (KOTOR, Mass Effect, etc) because it gets a player used to party management, ability/cooldown management, dialogue-driven “exploration” as well as the usual world/traversal-driven exploration.
That said…I fully acknowledge that BG3 is so many people’s first CRPG and it’s one of the most successful CRPGs of all time lmao, so maybe the modernized gameplay/controls/look-and-feel/etc are more valuable than the simplified/condensed experience of DAO. And hell, same for Elden Ring lmao, so maybe I’m overthinking it hahaha
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u/Finite_Universe 2d ago
Sometimes being overwhelmed is a good thing. When I first played Baldur’s Gate 2 decades ago, I knew almost nothing about D&D, and had never played an isometric CRPG before. It was a lot to take in, especially with all of the different spells I had to learn. Just learning how to make a balanced party was a foreign concept to me. But at the time, it was the perfect game for me, and the steep learning curve kept me engaged for the hundreds of hours it took for me to complete it.
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago
Frankly I don’t disagree tbh, this topic is probably much more of a “if you’re truly interested, have a friend who knows you recommend something” rather than some end-all-be-all list/singular suggestion 😅
I deeply, deeply apologize for aging myself/you…but I experienced something vaguely similar with Mass Effect when I was a young teenager lol. Obviously Mass Effect’s game mechanics and systems are DRAMATICALLY less complex than BG/D&D, but the sheer vastness of the world was daunting for someone who’d grown up on MX vs ATV Off-road Fury, Lego Star Wars, and Uncharted 3.
But at the same time - I think what Mass Effect does for for “real time scale” is what Baldur’s Gate/true CRPGs replace with mechanical complexity but it can afford that complexity because it’s turned based. Something like Dark Souls is sorta the culmination of the two - mechanically complex with lots of things to manage, PLUS it’s all in real time.
(I don’t even have a point anymore, woops. I just like talking about video games I guess)
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u/Nast33 2d ago
Noticing some clowns in here:
"Don't listen to these other people, it's absolutely X"
"X is the correct answer"
As if there aren't massive differences between linear JRPGs with 0 divergences based on decisions, and WRPGs with emphasis on quests and dialogue forks. And from those WRPGs you got the shallower ones with exploration focus like Skyrim and the more in-depth stuff like DA:Origins or totally out of left field surprises like Disco Elysium. It all depends on the preferences to genre and tone.
Others have mentioned some good ones, I'll go with Disco Elysium if whoever is gonna play it isn't against a lot of reading. It's undoubtedly the best written game ever made, rivaling the best authors out there, and the authors agree too - had some co-sign the game when I pitched into a 'best prose/writing' topic in the /fantasy sub.
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u/Johansenburg 2d ago
WRPG: I would go Oblivion, but I understand why people say Skyrim. I've just always preferred Oblivion.
JRPG: honestly, Clair Obscur. They can put the game on easy if they can't dodge or parry. I'd also recommend the look through the final fantasy catalog and just pick whichever one sounds the most interesting to them.
CRPG: bg3 and it isn't close.
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u/catsrcool89 2d ago
Bg3 as their first crpgs will just have them like "ok where's the other crpgs with production quality like this "and you will have to sadly tell them they do not yet exist but you can play divinity original sin 2 or dragon age origins,that looks 2 generations behind hey wait you can't just keep playing bg3.
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago
I think that’s what made BG3 in particular so successful. The production value and focus on full voice over and interactivity really makes it something special over pretty much any other CRPG, even if other CRPGs maybe have adapted 5E better, or handled multiple endings better, or have better distribution of companion stories/quests, whatever someone’s issue with BG3 might be
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u/adanceparty 2d ago
Honestly, I love BG3, but idk if I'd give it to someone that's never played an RPG. I've played all the mainstream ones, and easy to get into ones, but not many CRPGs. BG3 has sooo much you can do that I feel dumb sometimes. Standard video game logic doesn't always apply in BG3, but I've played soo many games in my life, that going to BG3 when I haven't played many games like it, just had me not thinking outside the box enough. Also struggled very much at first with the combat and how to level up / build characters.
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u/ElectronicCounty5490 2d ago
I hate saying it depends too much on the person but for this question it really does. I see RPGs as interactive movies or books. I'd see what they're into in other genres and whether they can appreciate older games. Romance and adventure? Lunar 1 and 2 or Final fantasy 10 Fantasy? Dragon warrior 1 or skyrim Mystery? Digimon world or Clair obscur: expedition 33 Comedy? Thousand arms (I honestly can't think of a more modern humorous RPG)
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u/Exotic_Talk_2068 2d ago
If you want them to get into DnD CRPG I would reccomend Neverwinter Nights with someone experienced to be DM
If just to make them get into feel of cRPG then Pillars of Eternity just to get the feel how good the old school can be
If I want to wow them with good story and choices then Witcher 2 or 3 would be the choice.
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u/Georgeous_Prince 2d ago
Final fantasy X will always be my first recommendation. The way combat was introduced and being able to control the whole party, and the sphere grid system was just amazing
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u/Slaktonatorn 2d ago
People in the comments seem to not consider modernity. For someone playing their first rpg, a game that’s older might be harder to get into. Dragon Age: Origins or Mass Effect would be the sweet spot I would recommend. My girlfriend played Minecraft and Nintendo Wii when she was a kid but wanted to ride horses so she started playing Red Dead Redemptiol 2. She’s now a full blown outlaw and loves it even though she though the controls were hard at first. That’s a solid recommendation as well.
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago edited 2d ago
Honestly any of the 360-era RPGs (or their modernized remasters) are probably great starting points. Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Oblivion Remaster, Fable, Dragon Age, all great games that were inherently less complex due to the requirement of being on a controller, and all likely much more accessible than prior games due to the target demo being the ENORMOUS 360 playerbase, rather than the more niche (at the time) PC base.
And, even if I feel weird being the only one to ever bring it up, that’s why I gotta give an honorable mention and super high regards to Avowed. It’s got such classic 360-era vibes throughout. It feels like the visual presentation of Oblivion meets the narrative-driven, party-based, and ability-focused feel of Dragon Age. GREAT starter RPG, that can even lead into a passion for more complex gaming with the original Pillars of Eternity series.
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u/RemusJoestar 2d ago
Oblivion which I think it's incredibly superior to Skyrim. Although Skyrim is a lot more casual, Oblivion feels more like an RPG and I don't think it's too overhhelming with its elements.
Jade Empire could be a good choice too.
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u/Elliptical_Tangent 2d ago
I'll jump on the bandwagon and say Skyrim. You don't really need to know anything to play Skyrim; you just do what you're interested in doing, and get better at doing those things.
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u/StepwisePilot 2d ago
The first RPG I ever played was Pokémon (the red version, back from the original generation). It was simple, but still introduced me to the basics of RPGs. So, to answer the question, I'd recommend Pokemon as an intro RPG.
The second RPG I ever played was Planescape: Torment, so a huge difference there. 🤣
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u/GrouchyCategory2215 2d ago
I'd say FF10. Not my favorite final fantasy, but I think it would be the perfect FIRST RPG. Simple combat, defined roles, interesting stat progression, pretty good story, graphics DON'T look like ass even though its an older game.
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u/adanceparty 2d ago
I don't blanket recommend games like that to anyone really. Depends what kind of games or worlds they like. I tend to recommend FFX I guess. I wouldn't for everyone though. Lots of my friends can't stand turn based combat so recommending older final fantasy is pointless. I also never recommend skyrim though, I find it to be worse than oblivion and Morrowind, and tons of other games really. It was the most disappointing entry for me. Also who is interested in that type of game and hasn't played it already?
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u/Magnic 2d ago
Gothic 1 and 2.
Why? I literally saw youtuber from my country introduce his The-Sims-playing wife to Gothic for her first other game than The Sims, and she loved it. Sure, at first it was a test if we (the audience) would like that type of content. It took off, and now she played through both Gothic games, replayed Gothic 1, and is playing other RPG games. So I believe it's a good starting point.
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u/machineguntommy 1d ago
CRPG - Baldur’s Gate 3 - Yeah it’s really big and long but it plays well, the story is easy to understand, and the gameplay is intuitive. They can play on easy/story if the combat is too much for them.
Classic JRPG - Dragon Quest 3 2D-HD Remake - It doesn’t get more classic and simple than Dragon Quest. But it’s been updated for QoL etc. easy to play and get into. Simple to understand. Fun gameplay loop.
Modern JRPG - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. Perfect balance of simple but good game play and story. I think most modern Final Fantasies and Personas etc. might be too much for someone new both in story and gameplay.
ARPG - Diablo 2 Remake covers this pretty succinctly. Easy to control, easy to understand, fun gameplay loop.
Open World RPG - Cyberpunk 2077 - I know a lot of people will say Skyrim and they’re not wrong but I think Cyberpunk has a lot of QoL improvements made and is generally fun to play.
Tactics RPG - Fire Emblem Three Houses - I think Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre might be a lot for a new person. Fire Emblem is a lot easier to pick up and Three Houses is also a great gateway into Persona.
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u/Equal_Equipment4480 1d ago
Starcraft, Diablo 2 or 3, Divinity Orignal Sin, Dark Souls 3, Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, Dragon Quest XI S Definitive Edition
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u/gyiren 1d ago
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. Surprised I had to scroll so far and still no one mentioned it.
Excellent soundtrack, amazing graphics, tight mechanics, likeable characters, believable dialogue, satisfying character progression, incredible story, fantastic world-building.
I'm challenged to think of a legitimate negative thing to say about this game as a critique.
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u/Deus_Synistram 1d ago
What type of RPG? The category is way to large. Turn based. Action, how much action, medieval modern or futuristic
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u/Automatic_Couple_647 1d ago
Could be anything. As long as you think it's something that you think your friend will like.
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u/Deus_Synistram 16h ago
Probably kingdom hearts 1. Self contained story with good but not too deep mechanics
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u/Dramatic-Driver7071 1d ago
If you're a fan of taking turns for attacks I would suggest star wars knights of the old republic 2 Sith lords. Of course there's also final fantasy, However I would also recommend Pit People as well as there's some good comical story telling in that one.
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u/Competitive-Run3909 18h ago
Fallout, baldur's gate, planescape torment, never winter nights. The classics.
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u/blueberryrockcandy 17h ago
Skyrim [single character, with a sidekick if wanted]
Fallout 3 [single character, with a sidekick if wanted]
Fallout New Vegas [single character, with a sidekick if wanted]
Fallout 4 [single character, with a sidekick if wanted]
Final Fantasy games are pretty good, most games are parties [you have a group of characters] 1-4
Ni No Kuni 2 [party of 3, you start with 1, then 2, and 3 quickly after that, and you can change them out.]
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u/Jackofnotrade5 6h ago
When FFXV was announced, a friend and I decided to give the FF games a try. I really enjoyed playing the remake of the first one. It was simple and fun, and I suppose it could work quite well as an introduction to the genre.
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u/Beautiful_Might_1516 1h ago
Skyrim has terribly weak writing and acting and anything really which is done to tell the story. Wouldn't even be in my top of 10 suggestions for the genre
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u/HyperRocket_ 2d ago
GreedFall.
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u/Sheogorathian 2d ago
I forgot that I bought Greedfall on a sale years ago and never played it. Sell me on it?
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u/HyperRocket_ 2d ago
It shows me how under appreciated that game is for you to "forget", huh? Too focused on these hyped up AAA titles eh?
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u/Ghost-Job 2d ago
I guess it depends on how familiar the person is with gaming as a whole, and how they want to start.
On one end of the spectrum, I'd pick Final Fantasy 10. Game is story driven instead of choice driven, turn based so the new person can take their time in combat, and the game (and the rpg systems) is relatively easy outside of maybe 3-4 key boss fights that will push them to think of their strategy.
On the other hand, for an intro into choice driven gameplay, one I'd say wouls be Cyberpunk 2077. The way the game handles the intro with multiple character backgrounds to pick from immediately affecting how the intro plays is pretty immersive. The scope of the systems can seem dense the game actually does a decent job contextualizing the rpg elements into an approachable cadence, especially if someone is already familiar with other types of first person games.
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u/Nast33 2d ago
Heh, CP'77 isn't bad at all after the 2.1 patch came out, but I still wouldn't put it anywhere near the 'choices matter and paths differ' philosophy. You only got a short intro quest that's different, and one more follow-up quest. From there on it's pretty much on rails - only a few decisions throughout the rest of the game, with most quests being very straightforward. The DLC tried doing more in that regard so that's good, but the game game was very dry in that regard. The endings was the major difference, but the way there was almost the same.
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u/SuperBAMF007 2d ago
Familiarity with gaming is such an important element of this convo tbh. Just knowing a controller or keyboard by heart in order to immediately internalize bindings with a two-second tooltip during the tutorial is so valuable to the way someone values a game. If someone’s played Last Of Us or Gears Of War or COD or something, they’re absolutely going to be able to pick up pretty much any RPG and at least mostly understand what they’re looking at, even if they have to get used to the open-endedness of the world and dialogue.
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u/Sad_Dog_4106 2d ago
There are a lot of subgenres of RPGs.
If you would like great story+third person action I would recommend Mass Effect series (sci fi), Witcher series (fantasy) or Cyberpunk 2077 to get into action RPGs. First two are best played from the beginning even if the mechanics and quality of games themselves differ from one game to another.
If you like story and character driven RPGs where you can role play your character and make a lot of choices but with a more difficult combat system and more difficult mechanics, I would start with Dragon Age Origins. Also, if you want full on story without combat, Disco Elysium. The crpg genre is full of amazing gems, you can then get into BG3, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity and branch out from there. Honestly, this is my favourite genre, you can follow Mortismal on Youtube for good recommendations.
If you want tactical turn based combat focused RPGs, I would say XCOM 2. If you want real time combat focused, maybe Diablo?
JRPGs are not my thing but you can try to get into with some Final Fantasy games but especially Clair Obscur Expedition 33 and Metaphor (I played only clair obscur but Metaphor might be on my list).
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u/69buttcheese420 2d ago
Cyberpunk is not third person. Nor do I find the story very good, but thats just my opinion
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u/Sad_Dog_4106 2d ago
Yeah, initially I only wrote mass effect and forgot to edit everything. For Cyberpunk, story enjoyment is subjective, I think mechanics plus immersion plus story would make a good starting point for an RPG newcomer.
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u/69buttcheese420 2d ago
I get that, I was just disappointed by the lack of impactul decisions in cyberpunk.
Different possibilities in the story are what make rpgs great to me, and increase replay value
Cyberpunk is a fun game, very immersive, and the hacking mechanics are cool. But cops in that game are a joke, and the story is not memorable, at least for me. I played it once, went "meh" and moved on
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u/Kaeracin 2d ago
Fallout. Start with NV it's the best then play 1,2,3,4 Then 76 ignore tactics and brotherhood they don't really exist
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u/naynay2022 2d ago
Western rpg dragon age origin, if you want more modern graphics than dragon age veilguard.
Jrpg Chrono trigger, if you want a more modern graphics than Final Fantasy X.
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u/Over_Dose_ 2d ago
People here are listing great games.
But if I was gonna RECOMMEND a game for someone who hasn't played an rpg before, I'd probably recommend a more linear game story wise like GOW etc... to ease them in. After, that's when I'll recommend the "choice matters" games or the open world ones.
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u/ThroughtonsHeirYT Chrono 2d ago
Chrono Trigger
Suikoden 1
Final fantasy vi
If they bright: Lufia 2 rise of the sinistrals. Rpg with puzzles just win
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u/TS_Prototypo 2d ago
Go for the flag-ship games based on which genre you enjoy more:
1. Skyrim for a newer feeling in the elder-scrolls world.
2. Oblivion for if you are around my age (30) and dont mind slightly less "fancyness" in exchange for old-school nice rpg feeling.
3. Assassinscreed odyssey or a newer one
4. The Witcher 3 or 1 (1 has a much different play style and feeling, very old-school but in my books its 10/10 aweseom).
5. Kingdoms of Amalur for a more fantasy based approach for an audience between 12 and 18, with interesting story.
6. Darksiders (start with the newest to not be put-off directly... once you learn the universe you learn to love all parts of it :D)
7. Fallout, if you like post apocalyptic rpg's
8. Mass Effect for obvious reasons but more sci-fi than the other mentions
... the list is endless here hehe
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u/diemedientypen 2d ago
Cairn 1e by u/yochaigal and its hacks Scouts & Scoundrels (Fantasy, too, with more playable ancestries and a more detailed magic system), Monolith (SciFi) and Eldritch Instinct (cthulhuesque Horror) are all free and rules-light. However, if you and your players are total newbies, I'd watch some actual plays in YouTube beforehand. E.g. on playing Cairn solo.
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u/Baedon87 2d ago
I think a lot of this would depend on what has drawn the person to other games; Dragon Age is typically my go-to, but if I know they're disinterested in medieval fantasy, I might recommend something like Mass Effect instead.
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u/Barnacle_at 2d ago
Mass Effect trilogy. It's fun and exciting, not difficult to get into, full of memorable characters, and the story's great and interesting.
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u/Notowidjojo 2d ago
It depends, to be honest.
If he enjoys themes like space and adventure, such as those found in Star Wars or Star Trek, I would probably recommend Mass Effect. If he prefers fantasy, then Dragon Age: Origins or Baldur's Gate 3 would be great choices.
The reason I suggest these two BioWare games and Baldur's Gate 3 is that their stories are captivating enough to draw you in, and the companions are a major selling point. You need to be engaged by the story first to want to continue playing.
My first RPG was Morrowind, which I didn't enjoy much. However, I later played Fallout: New Vegas, and that’s what hooked me and started my RPG journey.
If he’s looking for something similar to Baldur's Gate, I would also recommend Pillars of Eternity, Solasta, Rogue Trader, and Pathfinder. If he’s still craving more, I’d invite him to my D&D night to let him in the real rabbit hole of role-playing games.
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u/keiichimorisato98 2d ago
Seriously, any of the Mario RPGs, they do a great job of introducing you to the basic mechanics of RPGs. The Tales of Series, Ys series, and Trails series all have very easy difficulty options if you arent too keen on a Mario RPG and they actually have good stories to follow.
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u/Alternative-Call4536 2d ago
Since Skyrim was already said by everyone and their dog. Mass effect or any of the classics really. Let em enjoy a good story RPG.