r/rugbyunion Wales Jun 21 '25

Infographic Lions tackle stats and metres made

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u/falkkiwiben (+Serbia) Jun 21 '25

I'm sorry but this is quite biased. What you're saying is true, but it forgets one thing. Neutrals generally *love* seeing Scotland win, way more than they like seeing Wales win. Everyone adores seeing Scotland's sexy attack, loads hated seeing Wales be good. Also the "overwhelmingly nice reaction" is very new, for most of the decline I say Wales were quite mocked. And if Scotland got as bad as Wales are now I think you'd find most would be quite sad.

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u/taliskergunn Scotland Jun 21 '25

It’s definitely biased, I said I was a few times, but Scotland were much worse than Wales are now for over a decade. Neutrals enjoy watching Scotlands attack when it goes well, but the first hiccup and the players often get slated like they’ve never done anything right - the most obvious example is Finn Russel, he’s developed as a player to an incredible degree, yet when he makes mistakes nowadays the criticisms of him being an unreliable maverick from 2015 immediately rear their heads. I do get what you’re saying, and it’s nice to see the positive reaction here when we do play well, but I feel the criticisms of individual players when we play poorly far exceed a reasonable criticism of the players’ actual abilities

It’s definitely my bias coming through, but it’s pretty exhausting to try and defend our few exceptional players constantly from the same arguments that haven’t been true for half a decade

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u/SonicBoom_81 Jun 21 '25

I'm English and I've barely been supporting England recently because they've been so turgid. Glad it seems to be turnings corner.

But in their absence I've been supporting Scotland and France because they play fabulous rugger.

The slating is just the internet. Its hard to ignore but you gotta. There were so many positive vibes yesterday and then there were trolls and dickheads moaning that the lions lost. We got to see an epic game from a scratch side. We got to see a side that wanted to entertain and not just truck it up.

Rugby is the ultimate team sport. Of course it takes time to gel.

Yet people love to moan or bitch or say NH rugby is not as good as in new Zealand. Whatever. Fuck em. Enjoy what you know is great.

I cannot wait to see Russell tear it up for the lions and give his cheeky smile.

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u/WilkinsonDG2003 England Jun 21 '25

Arrogant NZ fans have been declining for years. It's been years since NZ was totally dominant. I don't think they have even held the number 1 rank since 2021.

Savea is still one of the best players on Earth though.