Kolbe tackle that injures James O’Connor

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Banned where exactly?

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NRL and NFL both banned it because they found it caused an insane number of knee injuries

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So not rugby union then.

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rugby union players are made of the same tendons and ligaments as rugby league players

it currently being legal doesnt make it less dangerous

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But it does make it not banned there...so I'm not sure the point of calling it a "hip drop" in this post when it's not banned in this game.

[u/Icy_Winner9761 → u/know-it-mall]

Hip drop describes the action not the law. Same with a spear tackle.

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That's nice...it's still not illegal or anything that I have ever seen mentioned during a rugby game.

[u/Icy_Winner9761 → u/know-it-mall]

I don't think the person who used the term hip drop was suggesting it was? They were just saying it looks like a hip drop

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Meh. Not a thing in professional rugby union so didn't need mentioned.

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User name does NOT check out.

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So there is a rule against it in professional rugby union then?

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What does that have to do with anything?

The person was just commenting that Kolbe's actions looked an awful lot like the thing we call a hip drop, you can agree or disagree that it wasn't the same action but whether or not it's illegal in union is neither here nor there.

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And if a guy makes a motion that looks similar to playing a violin I should mention that too?

It's not a thing in the sport so it's irrelevant.

Edit:

u/PM_your_curves_ replied to your comment in r/rugbyunion

What if someone else makes a motion that looks a lot like banging your wife?...

Real mature buddy.

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@ u/know-it-mall I think you need to take a step away from the keyboard mate, irrespective of the validity of your point, you sound like a right bellend reading this as a neutral third party

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Oh no, and I care so much about your opinion too..

[u/AdDesigner1153 → u/know-it-mall]

Law 9.11 :

Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others

Its the law Darcy Swain got banned under after the Tupea incident

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That's nice.

So we can just decide that using less than 7 fingers when wrapping in a tackle is dangerous and against that law then?

It's laughably ambiguous and has never been used to apply to something like this.

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What in the holy changing the goalposts is wrong with you??

First you complain about someone calling it illegal, which they didn't, and when they say they didn't, you think you one up them by saying its wrong to give the action its correct name, then when they say, well, that's the name, you go BACK to complaining about it not being illegal, which we already established was not what they were saying.

Go to sleep.

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I'm not changing any goal posts.

It isn't a thing in professional rugby union. Using a term from other sports makes zero sense and is a waste of everyone's time.

A fumble is a term in the NFL. That doesn't make it relevant here. We call it a knock on. And we don't call this anything in rugby union.

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No nastiness allowed.

[u/Horatio_Finglebry → u/know-it-mall]

Yeah i also struggle to understand why things have names.