r/Sino Aug 09 '24

discussion/original content Future of Sino: 100k reevaluation

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TLDR: 8 years and 100k good point to reevaluate. Old system can continue as is, but ready to step down for a better way forward.

After around 8 years not only are we still here, we hit 100k. That wasn’t supposed to happen for an unapologetically pro China space. Of course the primary objective was always the space, not subscribers or activity. The moderation style was among the strictest, if not the strictest, on reddit because again, the priority was the space. Ask yourself whether you think reddit rules are applied fairly to us, and it should be obvious why we inevitably ended up with the moderation style we did.

However 8 years is also an eternity in internet time. I’m the last of the old system. An old system that requires a lot of hands on, daily work. When we started we were very niche and didn’t even have our own subreddit. Now, even if suppressed, there are good subreddits around, twitter influencers to follow, youtubers to watch. We even had the benefit of discord groups that were particularly helpful during covid quarantine.

That being said, I think the old system has run its course. However whatever new course comes has to take into account Reddit’s new treatment of non mainstream links. It’s been made clear to me, that Reddit can deem a source as spam and go after you for it retroactively. The consequences would be ‘case by case’ meaning for Sino users, they will just suspend you. Some of you may have noticed me telling users when they have been suspended in comments. I don’t know why they shadowban so much now, but at this point I don’t care either. It’s more of a pain to approve, but you can still post. Since I’ve been active, there’s been no complaint from admins. ‘Anti-Evil Operations‘ acts once every 1 or 2 months here and the vast majority are things we never approved to be publicly viewed in the first place. These users trigger it by what they post publicly elsewhere, not here. There’s no real issue with the subreddit. There’s no real issue with the mod team. There’s no real issue with the users. Now they have this Safety_QA_misc cracking down with an ever-expanding list of spam with unclear consequences.

The way I see it, there’s a few options moving forward.

1) I continue in my role as long as I am able or until the subreddit is either banned or our users move on to any of the many good spaces out there (listed below and sidebar). This is the current and default path. It’d be good if I can get some long time user volunteers to hand the subreddit over to in an emergency.

2) I recruit several new mods that tries to follow the old blueprint with some changes

3) A new group of users take over with a different vision of how to do things

Any suggestion can be discussed, doesn’t have to be something I listed. However any future path has to take into account a couple things

1) We won’t go private because this is intended to be a public space, we already have private discords and there’s a lot of information compiled and archived that we want publicly accessible for as long as possible

2) Reddit is more suspension/shadowban happy than ever and its happening while we are about as hands on as we can get

3) Any additions to the mod team needs to prove a history with us (if you switched accounts you need to prove you can sign into the old one), or have someone vouch for you that we can trust and verify. Contact in the ‘message moderators’ chat. This isn’t because I think the best mods post a lot. If anything I think mods only survive by saying less. However Reddit has unclear policies on ‘lower’ mod takeovers. They revamped to combat ‘camping’, but you can imagine the potential risk.

edit: To add more info, we get around 100k unique visitors per month. I'm very happy with that kind of outreach for this space. As the one who curates most of the activity, I'm good on the amount also. Along with 100k subscribers, great position to have this discussion.

Discord and other spaces info

Mod PSA: You can be suspended and/or shadowbanned by reddit but still post, just be patient for approval

To check if you are suspended check your profile page without being signed in and using new.reddit.com. Incognito mode should also work for checking.

You can also edit your comments, that seems to bring it to light for mods.

If you are being harassed by pms, change your pm setting to only trusted users in your preferences. Or use a dedicated account for Sino https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204535759-Is-it-ok-to-create-multiple-accounts-. Just be patient for approvals if using new account. Link submissions are more likely to be approved than text submissions or comments for new users.

Discords. To apply msg mod, bottom right. We have 2, one for any Sino users and one for any verified ethnic Chinese. We won't be changing the approval process for Discord because it would be unfair for those who are already in.

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r/Sino Jun 11 '25

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r/Sino 7h ago

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r/Sino 17h ago

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r/Sino 27m ago

picture 'great wall' of "anti Japanese" enclosing Japan in map format...😔

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For the record, it was Japan, not China, that framed WW2 commemoration attendance as "anti Japanese". Does anybody want to calculate what % of the East Asian landmass is supposedly "anti Japanese"?


r/Sino 14h ago

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r/Sino 18h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 8h ago

discussion/original content Talking about "China anxiety" in Japan and East Asia.

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Japan's current posture stems from a mentality akin to that of a stubborn, hissing cat—all bluster and defiance masking deep-seated anxiety.

Its confrontational hissing at China is an extremely contradictory product of strategic anxiety. In the eyes of China—now the world's top industrial nation—Japan is essentially a dead man walking, with only the date of execution yet to be determined. All the tensions around China are manifestations of this strategic anxiety and tactical recklessness. The political infighting among blue, green, and white factions in Taiwan, South Korea’s game of musical chairs with its presidency, Vietnam’s mixed attitude toward China—simultaneously emulating, wary, ambiguous, and guarded—are all products of the strategic anxiety stemming from China’s return to its historical peak and Asia’s collective reversion to its traditional order.

When it comes to confrontational hissing toward China, the four regions behave differently. Taiwan’s approach is characterized by relentless smear campaigns and opposition to anything Chinese—a form of spiritual hysteria that is, at its core, a strategic tantrum. This is because Taiwan fundamentally believes that, at worst, it can always surrender without facing annihilation.

South Korea’s confrontational hissing is driven by competitive anxiety—a product of tactical arrogance and strategic inferiority. Its hallmarks are theft and defamation. Historically a vassal looking up to the Central Plains, South Korea finally seized the opportunity amid historical upheavals to establish its own national identity and historical narrative. With help from its American patron, it successfully industrialised early, gaining a strategic edge over its former master in two main ways: early industrialisation and earlier entry into so-called mainstream civilized society as a developed nation. Yet this strategic superiority lasted less than 30 years before China caught up and surpassed it in industrialisation. South Korea’s hissing is thus rooted in historical insecurity and anxiety over industrial competition.

Vietnam’s confrontational hissing shares similarities with South Korea’s but also has distinct differences. Like South Korea, it stems from historical insecurity and industrial competition anxiety—typical examples include Vietnam’s appropriation of Chinese culture, art, and creativity, even directly copying official documents while claiming them as original. However, unlike South Korea, Vietnam’s underlying feelings are not just inferiority but also envy and even desire—a contradictory historical mindset shaped by millennia of entanglement and a century of grudges. It is a mix of fear and identification, anxiety and resignation. This is especially true as Southeast Asia increasingly leans into China’s embrace, and Vietnam witnesses China’s rapid progress and breakthroughs over the years—a complex and conflicted sentiment.

Japan’s confrontational hissing, on the other hand, is one of hysterical fear—a sleepless nightmare. It is like being diagnosed with terminal cancer but still clinging to life through radiation and chemotherapy, sentenced to death but awaiting execution. Japan truly feels that across the sea lies an enemy.

It keeps its eyes wide open, watching China’s GDP grow from parity in 2011 to 3.5 times its size by 2025, watching the Chinese navy expand from 7 destroyers to 120 destroyers and frigates, watching China step by step crush Japanese industries—from white goods and semiconductors to mobile phones, the mobile internet, and automobiles—driving them into bankruptcy. Wherever Chinese industry extends its reach, Chinese products flood the market. Japan watches China gradually become an industrial Cthulhu. Japan is acutely aware of China’s lingering resentment toward it. When China and Japan established diplomatic relations, Premier Zhou Enlai described them as “neighbors separated only by a narrow strip of water.” Japan immediately responded that China and Japan were “like Wu and Yue in the same boat.”

The primary tensions in East Asia and across Asia are products of this strategic anxiety. Viewed on a five- to ten-year scale, they are the inevitable outcome of Sino–U.S. competition—the compression of global fronts between China and the U.S. toward the edges of geopolitical plates. They are the inevitable result of the economic, industrial, military, political, diplomatic, and national power struggles between China and the U.S.

Since World War II, China’s return to its historical strength has inevitably caused friction. Eighty years after the Yalta System and thirty years after the end of the Cold War, the three major geopolitical regions—the Middle East, East Asia, and Eastern Europe—have all witnessed severe geopolitical conflicts and strategic confrontations. The world urgently needs a new order and a new system.

From a broader historical perspective, these tensions represent East Asia’s break from the outdated Westphalian diplomatic system and its return to the traditional tributary system. They entail settling historical grievances, clarifying historical relationships, and resolving historical contradictions—a comprehensive reckoning of East Asia’s geopolitical issues since 1840.


r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 5h ago

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The work involves researchers from the US Department of Energy–funded Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, Columbia University, the Technical University of Munich, and East China Normal University (ECNU).

Nice to see cooperation across 3 continents for projects like this.


r/Sino 16h ago

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Silly Americans...we can talk when China adds another few thousand or so.


r/Sino 19h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 10h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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