r/skiing 1d ago

How to learn these jumps

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u/smitty046 Copper Mountain 1d ago

Be a gymnast first, then put skis on

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u/Maxmaxmaxski 1d ago

Right? This feels like the difference between aerial ski jumping and like park skiers to me. One side learned it through gymnastics and one side learned it while on skis

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u/repdetec_revisited 1d ago

Ya. A lot of TGR videos in the 20-teens kind of piss me off, because they will cut from jump to jump to jump, and there just isn’t much actual skiing in the segments.

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u/ejfrodo 1d ago edited 1d ago

For a lot of people the point of the skis is mostly to get you to the next rail or lip honestly. To each their own I suppose. There are multiple entire Olympic sports based around that idea after all. Everyone can enjoy the mountain however they want as long as they're not impeding me having a good time

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u/PaddleFishBum Snowbasin 12h ago

I say the more park rats there are, the better. More people confinrd to one small area of the front side means less waiting in line for pow laps on other parts of the mountain.

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u/RegulatoryCapture 10h ago

True, although moguls skiers are now basically adopting aerials tricks/training since the format forces them into the same jumping style: straight in to a straight kicker, straight out on the landing (you can't land switch in aerials either).

Moguls skiers can go off-axis tough, but often the "big" trick for men is still something straight out of aerials like a Back Double Full

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u/yesat Verbier 1d ago

Aerial is so much closer to gymnastic in style.

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u/DeepPowStashes 1d ago

they are all former gymnasts

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u/Brianlife 19h ago

A Brazilian gymnast got paralyzed after an accident when training to compete in aerial ski jumping...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La%C3%ADs_Souza

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u/Backward_Strings 1d ago

I had never seen a pool setup like that, airbags and tramps are common, such a clever idea to pump air through the water to make the landing softer.

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u/EclecticEuTECHtic 1d ago

There's a pool like that at the Utah Olympic Park.

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u/dually3 Northstar 1d ago

It's fun to watch the kids learning

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u/Backward_Strings 1d ago

Nice, must come in handy! Sadly I only ever worked Tahoe in the states, heard great things about the mountains in Utah though.

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u/FriendlyPoke 1d ago

I'm curious what happens after he goes in the water. I can't imagine swimming with skis on can be easy. Is he just holding his breath and unbuckling? Is someone down there to pull him up?

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u/External-Dress-3595 1d ago

Think he’s got a life jacket on (the red thing) so he just floats back up pretty quickly

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u/balakaylakay 17h ago

I’ve done this before. You float back up thanks to the life jacket. Then, you just back stroke to the side of the pool and take your skis off before climbing out.

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u/Backward_Strings 1d ago

Not sure mate, as I said, first time I've seen a pool like this.

Pure speculation but given how it was when Mythbusters tested the sinking boats with bubbles myth (one I believe they failed at), the problem they had is that Adam was just pushed to the side out of the way.

Given that, I would guess the same would happen, you'd be forced out of the aeriated water and then you could swim up. He is already wearing a skintight suit that isn't heavy so clothing is unlikely to be a big issue and any skier as experienced as him could kick off their skis in a second.

The boots would be the worst part but not unmanageable at all. The worst part would be drying your boots, after the end of season pond skim it'd take a while to dry mine! XD

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u/a-lledgedly 20h ago

Right? I was surprised too,, the bubbles actually make such a big difference for softening impact. Super smart setup!

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u/Bendy_Beta_Betty 3h ago edited 2h ago

Sparger (air bubbler) systems have been used in dive training for at least 30 years, but yes it is ingenious. (So have trampolines and ropes+pulley systems.)

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u/rba21 1d ago

I live in Utah and the Olympic Park has a pool like this. They say the bubbles aren’t to make the landing softer but to make it easier for the skier to see the surface of the pool

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u/Cairo77 1d ago

Having trained at Lake Placid water ramps for mogul skiing to learn and qualify inverts for competitions the bubbles are in fact for both purposes. Makes it easier to see for sure but it’s 99% to make the landing softer. The bubbles break the surface tension of the water, if you go big and land properly with two skis on your knees will likely destroy your face or your knees will blow out. Also helps if you get caught up and land on your back or stomach. The bubbles are turned off right after landing, you kinda awkwardly float over to the edge of the pool, take your skis off, throw them onto the deck and climb out. We had ramp skis and boots we would use for water ramps only. It was a stupid amount of fun hucking yourself off the ramps with little to no consequence, learning air awareness and how it feels to flip multiple times or even just a simple backflip and the mechanics involved was incredibly fun and taking it to snow afterwards. Worst part was having your ski eject and having to swim down and get it a couple times a day lol

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u/DharmaKarmaBrahma 1d ago

The last trick is not the same as the first two.

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u/breadfaniron 1d ago

Even the second trick is different to the first

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u/Schmich Verbier 20h ago

Might be random videos of the guy put together. The ski video must be at least 4 years old as 2021/22 was the last season Swisscom was the Swiss Ski sponsor.

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u/drailCA 1d ago

I don't understand how aerials is still a sport. They learned quads, only for them to be banned by FIS, basically capping the sports progressing over 20 years ago.

Meanwhile, park skiing is doing switch triples with multiple different axis variations and grab combinations.

Why didn't video kill the radio star? I will never understand.

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u/sevseg_decoder 7h ago

I mean to be fair we’re already pushing limits of what’s even possible to do without guaranteeing being crippled by 30.

There’s no way the “progression” of these sports doesn’t lead to injuries just getting more and more common. Watching this video all I can think is “yeah, one slip up in an actual competition and this guys career/passion is over for life for an extra 360 degrees of lateral rotation…”

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u/JuanMurphy Whitefish 1d ago

Crazy how far this sport came. I remember in the 70s in South Lake Tahoe (Zephyr Cove) in summer time there was a ski jump erected where they’d practice their tricks. Super low tech. Just a ramp, a jump and a lake. Sure it was a bunch of Daffy, Backscratchers, and spread eagles but I do remember guys toying with flips.

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u/Bargainhuntingking 1d ago

Must be hard to swim/get out of the pool with ski boots and skis on, no? Drowning risk?

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u/attnSPAN 1d ago

That’s why they have to wear lifejackets. That’s what they’re wearing for vests.

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u/jbc1974 1d ago

Unbelievable skill!

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u/lordvinny 1d ago

He forgot to grab

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u/ph34r807 1d ago

The Ole Flippity Flop. Klaus mastered that years ago.

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u/SubstantialDog9170 1d ago

I still don’t get it

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u/UsurpistMonk 1d ago

Start by becoming a top notch competitive gymnast. Then learn to ski at an intermediate level.

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u/spicyone15 1d ago

Incredible

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u/butterbleek 1d ago

Wild!!! 😜

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u/Head-Kale-9600 1d ago

Missed a complete rotation

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u/Fuck_Ppl_Putng_U_Dwn 1d ago

Anybody know what is the name of the rig(bungee cords and harness) that he is using and if there is something like this that you could setup on a backyard trampoline?

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u/TommasoBontempi 1d ago

r/skiing on my feed again means only one thing

Winter is coming

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u/PaddleFishBum Snowbasin 12h ago

It snowed in the Adirondacks last week

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u/PaddleFishBum Snowbasin 12h ago

As a former diver, this makes me miss the tramp sessions. My stepdad was the coach and had a setup like that (smaller, but still) in the back yard, so we trained on it all the time to learn new dives. He was also a total ski bum and was buddies with aerialists like Frank Bare back in the day. This really takes me back to childhood.

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u/Turtle_Hermit420 1d ago

They literally show you how he practices op

Are you dense

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u/maltamur 1d ago

That’s why it’s a statement and not a question. The statement is “how to learn these jumps”. Meaning this video shows you how to learn these jumps.

If it was a question it would end with “?”

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u/Turtle_Hermit420 1d ago

My bad I forgot this wasn't r/skiingcirclejerk

And yes punctuation does not matter on the internet "How to "typically is how you start a search query but I guess I'm the one that's dense 😂

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u/willfall165 1d ago

Clown college