r/soccer • u/Heimebane • 1d ago
Media Dominic Calvert-Lewin's 30 minute debut for Leeds vs Sheffield Wednesday
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u/Klichouse 1d ago
Two of these misses are fine. One the ball hits him, the other is at full stretch.
However the other two were comedy
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u/AdministrativeLaugh2 1d ago
The first one he really should’ve scored but the other two aren’t on him, he did what he could and sometimes you don’t get the bounce. The penalty was dire, obviously
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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 1d ago
Pen is bad, others are acceptable. First one he could've scored yeah, but it's higher difficulty than people will have you think.
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u/fedl1ngen 1d ago
My problem with him, in the last season at Everton, was that all of those chances where you give him the benefit of the doubt, let's say maybe call them 50/50 style finishes, he just kept missing the target or shooting it straight at the keeper.
Wish him all the best, but that game just summarized his game since Carlo left.
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u/NovemberBurnsMaroon 1d ago
Clips 1 and 3 should be goals.
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u/Klichouse 1d ago
3 is the only one I wouldnt blame him for. Its through the keeper, there is a defender ball side and it hits him on the thigh. What was he meant to do?
You could argue the 2nd chance he should go with his left but im not sure.
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u/fplisadream 1d ago
Even clip 1 it's coming in very quickly and he is slightly ahead of where he'd ideally be which means it shoots up high and slightly behind him. Extremely difficult chance where a millimetre difference changes where it goes.
Clip 2 he can't reach it with his left. He's full stretch with his right as it is.
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u/NovemberBurnsMaroon 1d ago
You can see him watching the cross on the way in, and then he just doesn't anticipate it and let's the ball hit him. He has to expect the ball will get to him.
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u/Klichouse 1d ago
Nah.
This happens to Chris Wood and you say everything I've said above.
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u/Stirlingblue 1d ago
This happens to Chris Wood and he scores it, as it’s the thing Chris Wood is best at.
Love Dom but the lad can’t finish his dinner
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u/NovemberBurnsMaroon 1d ago
If it happens to Chris Wood would you say everything I've said?
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u/Klichouse 1d ago
No, I think it's an incredibly difficult chance where the striker has two obstructions to the ball, one blocks his vision and the ball is arriving above his knee. Since hes already level with the ball he can't just stick a leg out and make contact.
If it rolled into his feet I'd say its a terrible miss but thats not what this is
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u/Same_Grouness 1d ago
The keeper got a slight touch at the last second that took the ball behind him, could see it clearly in the replays while watching the game.
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u/fplisadream 1d ago edited 1d ago
Clip 1 even no, it skips up at his hind foot as he has over-run for the chance that is coming in very quickly. Clip 3 is very difficult because the keeper has just put him off. Every striker in the world has a strong chance of missing both of these.
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u/hiloai 1d ago
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
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u/TikkaT 1d ago
is it me or is nicolas jackson a bit of a boring player
like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow jackson has 32 misses" but u can never remember them.
can u remember a single jackson miss ?
but try dcl...u can see the miss i remember a dcl miss.
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u/antbaby_machetesquad 1d ago
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually shoot because DCL was already injured.
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u/emre23 1d ago
Well that was an unexpected crossover
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u/rytlejon 1d ago
What does it mean
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u/MindTheBees 1d ago
An iconic counter strike comment reference that one of the devs made: https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/s/wLDcTRWe1d
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u/WarSamaYT 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s a well known reference in the r/GlobalOffensive Counterstrike community. About a developer who was calling out that a pro eSports player was not hacking. He ran through each shot in the supposed clip and the comment is a reference to that. The player in question is Hiko who is a legend but at times had some questionable inhuman gameplay in the distant past.
It’s a hilarious copy pasta that comes up from time to time because the missed shots was just a roast by the devs into Hikos gameplay.
I’m just roughly referencing I can’t remember exactly but that’s mostly the details.
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u/_hallis 1d ago
Its not about hacking at all. Its about hitboxes, csgo used to have a bug where the hitbox would be different to players visual models. Basically, you could shoot at someones head but do no damage because the hitbox wasnt aligned correctly. The post is a meme because there was a clip where a pro player was spraying at someones head at point blank and missing and the dev was trying to justify it
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u/WarSamaYT 1d ago
That’s the one. I just remember Hiko being memed about doing inhuman stuff at the time. Good or bad. Need to brush up on my CS history it’s been a long time. 😭
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u/AlmostNL 1d ago
About a developer who was calling out that a pro eSports player was not hacking.
Oh it is way better:
The issue was that the cs:go hitboxes were broken. Shots that SHOULD have hit didn't. It was a high profile case where a pro player encountered the bug and it was the first time a developer even acknowledged the bug, but was in full denial.
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u/dabyss9908 1d ago
Yeah even I am confused
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u/esoemah 1d ago
Even you? Damn
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u/Trick-Station8742 1d ago
Cannot believe even he is confused
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u/No-Number-638 1d ago
He's a good player that helps the team in lots of ways with excellent hold up play and dominance in the air. He also works hard chasing lost causes, which was why Dyche loved him.
He's also one of the worst finishers I've seen. Every one on one is just side footed into the keeper's legs and it's not the first time I've seen him miss a tap in from there. His confidence is just completely shot.
That, and the fact he's just never fit, makes me question why Leeds went for him.
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u/Hostilian_ 1d ago
Free, plus Farke claims to be a striker whisperer, he reckons he can fix him.
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u/tcain5188 1d ago
The only one to get a good season out of DCL so far has been Carlo Ancelotti. Kinda speaks volumes if the only manager to get you to perform is one of the greatest of all time.
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u/SinanFazbear 1d ago
Might honestly be the worst finishing striker I've seen in the PL
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u/Boris_Ignatievich 1d ago
not even the worst finishing striker at leeds tbf, we've still got bamford on the books.
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u/SinanFazbear 1d ago
Haven't watched him but if that is really the case, best of luck to you lol
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u/BTbenTR 1d ago
A Bamford miss compilation would change your life.
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u/ewangreenwood 1d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEM4L6PMAwU and this was 5 years ago, plenty more where that came from in recent years
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u/FoxesFan91 1d ago
that one against Leicester in the season we both went down was unreal, like ten times harder to miss than score
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u/Pyeman112 1d ago
Bamford is the better player imo
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u/Boris_Ignatievich 1d ago
for bamfords career he's underperformed his xG by over 30%
calvert-lewin has underperformed his by 24%.
bamford is demonstrably the poorer finisher
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u/readinghusband 1d ago
only 30%
Bamfords additional skill of blocking his teammates goalbound shots should be added to that number too
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u/gabrielconroy 1d ago
He's still beloved at Spurs, but I can tell you never watched Bobby Soldado's ill-fated stint in the PL.
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u/black_pepper 1d ago
When Ancelotti was coach at Everton for a hot minute I swear I thought Calvert-Lewin hit a new performance bar. As soon as the coach left he dropped back down.
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u/Roadies_Winner 1d ago
Its fine for the first few weeks. He's presumably rusty after years spent at the table due to injuries. But if he manages to keep fit for a few weeks and remains like this, then buddy has to take the hard pill and play fourth division or Saudi.
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u/No-Number-638 1d ago
The worry is he was completely fit for a while at Everton and went on a run of 19 games without a goal (twice). A lot of that was down to Dyche but he still missed some big chances.
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u/XVGDylan 1d ago
Calvert-Lewin is the ultimate outlier in XG underperformance. He's running at 25 goals across his career. Over the last two seasons alone, he's run 12 under XG.
However, to put that in perspective, Darwin, across his three seasons at Liverpool, ran 15 goals under XG. Nicolas Jackson is at 9 under
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u/Mozezz 1d ago
This Dom in a nutshell
And it’s not an accident two of these chances that fell to him arent ‘bad luck’, it’s just his level of finishing ability, incredibly frustrating player, especially when you’re in games were opportunities are few and far between
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u/Stirlingblue 1d ago
The weird bit about him is that his movement is good enough to get himself into the positions so he clearly anticipates what’s going to happen yet he always seems surprised the moment a ball gets to him
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u/GunstarGreen 1d ago
Seems like a confidence player. Some games he looks like a real problem for the opposition. Some games a real problem for his manager
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u/Mozezz 1d ago
Nope, not confidence
Just natural ability
What Dom struggles with now is what Dom struggled with when he was 19/20
He hasn’t improved his finishing ability at all over the years, he’s focussed on getting on the end of an opportunity so much that he forgot to improve the finishing of those opportunities
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u/Pandos17 1d ago
Honestly crazy how highly people rated him as a 19/20 year old and how he just didn’t progress any further.
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u/Mozezz 1d ago
He’s a good striker, his all round game is of high quality
My biggest concern was how we developed him as a young lad, we really should have focused on getting him out on loan that 17/18 season
But instead we played him almost every game which was great for his personal development as he got to play elite level, but all he was used for was to just run and battle for the ball to accommodate Rooney playing a little deeper
Then he was just kept around as a starter doing basically the same thing but with each new manager that came in more reliance in Dom was the mindset and he just isn’t that guy
I feared the same thing would happen with Moyes, but thankfully DCL turned down our offer and broke the cycle
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u/salad_spinner_3000 21h ago
He was a terrible finisher when he was 19/20; he's a terrible finisher at 29.
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u/salad_spinner_3000 21h ago
You'll have a never ending stream of people saying it's confidence. "form is temporary/class is permanent". Yeah, not with him. Even with the goals he scored for Ancelotti a lot of them were, at BEST, reactive. He scored a goal off his arse ffs.
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u/AnduwinHS 1d ago
Every comment in this thread could easily be about Bamford, who was already here on big wages and was told he wouldn't be in the squad
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u/jMS_44 1d ago
Carlo Ancelotti greatest managerial achievements:
No. 3 - Winning league title on all top 5 leagues
No. 2 - Winning Champions league 5 times
No. 1. - having DCL score 16 goals goals in a season under him
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u/Orange_Kid 1d ago
DCL's "good year" had so many open strikes and tap ins fall to him. Sure part of being a striker is getting to the right spot for those opportunities, but it was clear there was a ton of luck involved in that season and it wasn't sustainable.
Of course Everton then rejected all offers for him at his highest possible price.
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u/No-Number-638 1d ago
Did Everton ever get a serious offer for him? He was linked to Arsenal but they never actually bid for him. Then he got injured again.
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u/maidentaiwan 1d ago
Ah yes, the season we were asking how southgate was going to fit both Kane and Calvert Lewin into his starting XI
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u/DefinitelyNotBarney 1d ago
Hope he finds a good match fitness and his confidence again, he seems like a nice guy and to be fair injuries really derailed his career and I don’t think I’d wish that on anyone, hope he can retire not thinking what if as much as he probably is right now
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u/summervillainess 1d ago
doing his best Bamford impression on his debut, the perfect replacement. the penalty was really the icing on the cake
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u/fourscoreandhuit 1d ago
Great in the air, physical, athletic in bursts, understands forward movement and is good for 2-3 goals a season. Should’ve moved position to centre half years ago.
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u/Boris_Ignatievich 1d ago
Second one is more a good save more than a bad miss tbf, don't think he does owt wrong there.
If you're being generous (which I'm not inclined to be tbh) the third seems to take him a bit by surprise and mostly bounces off him, but I think he should obviously score it.
The first and the penalty are absolutely shocking, clean contact, no pressure, but a completely misfiring targeting system.
The plus side is that I suppose he was there to miss them, which is a vast improvement on Joel piroe so far this season. And it's his first football since whenever he last played for Everton, he's clearly going to be rusty. But his historical finishing doesn't give me any faith that's going to matter much
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u/Intelligent_Exit_171 1d ago
Agreed, its also hard to see but the keeper actually gets a touch on the 3rd that deflects the ball onto his shin, the other angle shows this.
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u/maidentaiwan 1d ago
Yeah the fact he got on the end of a dangerous ball this many times in his first 30 mins only bodes well for Leeds. He is a handful for any defender in the league when fit, has always given Saliba and Gabriel a lot to think about.
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u/HacksawJimDGN 1d ago
Good positioning. A bit of confidence and he'll do well
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u/Mozezz 1d ago
Everton fans have seen saying this every season for 8 years
Confidence is not the problem, Dom is a very confident person and player, the problems is quite simply his finishing ability and his quick thinking when shooting
He does all the nitty gritty of a striker job very well, but the goalscoring aspect is so poor
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u/YokoOkino 1d ago
I disagree, confidence is his problem. He has been missing chances since his injuries have been on and off. He would have hit many if he was still under Carlo, because Carlo is probably the best man-manager out there.
Dom's major issues are his long range shooting is poor and he is unable to create for himself/others. I think his close-range/reaction finishing is a confidence thing, but he lacks value in those two other departments.
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u/Mozezz 1d ago
It’s not confidence mate, Dom is full of it and he rates himself so unbelievably high
Confidence isn’t and never has been the issue, its his ability
Carlo didn’t need the influence of his peoples skills, Carlo got the best of goalscoring out of Dom by simply saying to him fuck doing anything else, just get in the box and we’ll get it to you
Go back to that 20/21 season and look at how Dom only scored an abundance of goals at the start of the season when James was popping off
He only scored 5 goals between December and May
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u/TheCatLamp 1d ago
Its like Gabriel Jesus, he is a good forward, but his strength is not the goal.
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u/maidentaiwan 1d ago
If only you could get Jesus and Big Dom at the same club, you’d have an excellent option up front for about 15 games a season
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u/fplisadream 1d ago
Missing a pen, bad, but those are really difficult chances
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u/GirthEE75 1d ago
I felt like he did the best he could on that 2nd chance
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u/fplisadream 1d ago
Absolutely. Borderline unscoreable. The other two are being underrated in their difficulty as a ball is being whipped in to the mixer with multiple people trying to play at it.
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u/AxeCapital91 1d ago
Honestly a poor debut but clearly rusty.
Having said that even this version is a HUGE upgrade on an immobile Joel Piroe who just wouldn’t have got in any of these positions
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u/Soberdonkey69 1d ago
Reminder that he is being paid £120,000 per week at Leeds United. A colossal waste of money as Leeds fans will barely see him play matches and miss even the easiest of chances for a striker.
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u/DoveInvisibleDry 1d ago
Movement is pretty good. If they have him practicing anything but finishing then the coaching staff are noobs too.
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u/ArranSDrums 1d ago
Movement is great, just clearly very little confidence, not a fan of Leeds but hopefully they can get a tune out of him
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u/Micah_Blac 1d ago
1st chance - World Class strikers feast on that but it is difficult, should at least get it on target, even straight at the GK if anything
2nd - Great save ar full stretch
3rd - Could have gone anywhere, the type of goal you'd see Michail Antonio or Maupay score 3 of every season.
As much as the memes from other fans and distress from Leeds fans...you can get 10 goals all comps from a fit DCL if you play to his strengths and he stays fully fit, and the Everton fans saying he's made of glass are forgetting that it was managers that forced him back early TWICE. IF he's gotten over those issues he isnt particularly more injury prone that others (better than Jesus imo, in regards to injuries).
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u/Intelligent_Exit_171 1d ago
3rd actually gets a touch off the keepers glove that deflects it onto his shin. The other angle shows this. Still though, should have had a couple.
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u/qwicknezz 1d ago
As an everton fan i’d say this is his typical performance unfortunately. I think his confidence is super low at the moment given how bad he did for us the last couple years. If he can get out of his head a little bit and stay fit theres still a decent player in there imo
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u/snowavess 1d ago
Bro I've been calling him calven lewert all this time, the last letters where swapped!
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u/Spare_Ad5615 1d ago
Poor bloke. What a nightmare. I don't think there's much more he could have done with the second and third chances, but the first one is a bad miss, and obviously the penalty is what it is.
You might argue that it's good that he's getting into the positions, but this was against Sheffield Wednesday, who have all sorts of problems.
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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago
I swear DCLs biggest asset was his injury record. He was out of the squad so much that it allowed people to pretend that he could come back and turn things around. 8 years of nonsense.
Ancelotti telling him to not leave the box wasnt a brilliant tactical insight; it was an admission that hes an extremely limited player. He had no ability to engineer or convert chances from outside the box. he looked supersonic for a 6 week period during a covid suspended season (which amounted to a closed door friendly league) and apart from that has statistically been by far the worst finisher in the premier league year after year.
Fucking prick sponged off of us and still thought he was worth twice as much. His toxic mrs didnt help either. And for some reason our fanbase (and americans on reddit in particular) glazed his arsehole for years. “Oh his hold up play is so good, he does so much apart from scoring goals, he just isnt fit yet, hes so passionate, he tries so hard, he wants to be so good, the badge means so much to him, we need to let him move on and not slag him off, apart from the missed sitters and being injured loads, and his wifes insta comments, and his lack of goal contributions he was pretty good for us. “
Get to fuck. Terrible player who steals a living in the PL thanks to his pretty privelige. Hes going to need to show up, Leeds players wont tolerate that shite every week.
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u/jaylem 1d ago
Remember when people were saying to bench Kane for him in the Euros in 2021?
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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago
I remember people saying kane should be benched; i do not remember hearing DCL as a solution
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u/GiuseppeScarpa 1d ago
People don't understand that being there is not automatic.
This guy knows where the ball will go and that is the most important quality in a striker because you can't train it that much, it's a matter of instinct and reading the game instantly. Filippo Inzaghi was shit in every technical fundamental skill but he knew every time where he had to be to score a goal in that precise moment.
This guy makes the right choices, but first pass bounces on the grass and doesn't give much reaction time to adjust. Maybe he hit with the shin/ankle and not with the foot but he kept the ball low and surprised the goalkeeper.
The other one in front of the keeper is from close range and the goalkeeper covers a most of the goal surface at that distance.
Sure he could have scored, but every great striker in the history of the game has missed at least some goals like these.
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u/Stirlingblue 1d ago
What you are saying is in theory true, but in DCLs case he’s been getting in position and making these misses for years now
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u/Ten_Over 1d ago
He’s getting into the right positions so if he can just find form it’s an improvement for Leeds.
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u/lospollosakhis 1d ago
I think I’d rather have a striker getting into these positions and missing than one who’s anonymous.
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u/Skysflies 1d ago
This is quite funny, but if you're honest, a striker getting this many good chances in such a short amount of time is a good thing.
He'll definitely score for Leeds quite often
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u/resident_hater 1d ago
At least he didn't go off injured.
Although maybe that would have been the best for everyone.
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u/legosucks 1d ago
Love the "he is good at linkup play" comments. Man is a dogshit striker who had maybe 2 good season stop defending this "finishing"
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u/rocket_randall 1d ago
Such an enigma. His runs and timing are great, but his touch is pure entropy.
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u/Radthereptile 1d ago
Two ways to look at it.
The obvious one is he missed some clear sitters and a pen. Which yeah that’s really bad.
The other being he got himself into really good positions to have those chances. Still needs to finish them but a big part of being a striker is being in the right spot.
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u/OnceIWasYou 1d ago
Not really sure why this is even a thing, he's bee the worst finisher in the league for years now and I genuinely don't think he's a Premier League level footballer. His general play is extremely poor for that level.
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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago
Yeah hes terrible. For some reason people back him. Its beyond me. Im so happy i dont have to watch him mope around for us anymore.
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u/Euphorbial 1d ago
nah his general play is excellent and something we'll struggle to replace (see us not being able to break the leeds press). he gets elite height for his jumps, is great at trapping the ball, and is really good at little flick ons when he has other runners around him. and im not sure theres a better player for winning random fouls at like, the halfway line, when he traps the ball. just to ease some pressure.
what hes finding tough is his finishing
someone else said it and i think theyre right, that he would do great in a 1999 4-4-2 with a pacey striker he can flick on to
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u/normott 1d ago
This is like Lukaku in that one game I cant recall if it was for club or country but it was a pretty high profile game
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u/carrotincognito48 1d ago
Lukaku vs Croatia? Lukaku UCL final 2023? Lukaku in any big game in the Prem?
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u/Thorium19 1d ago
Lukaku for Everton vs United in the FA cup semi final in 2016. He missed multiple sitters, could have had us 3-1 up at half time iirc.
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u/Step_Bro_Here 1d ago
How can you be so bad at finishing when you've probably played football all your life. All them training sessions all them minutes playing still cant put such simple balls in the back of the net.
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