r/southafrica Mar 19 '18

Redditor provides counter-argument to documentary about South Africa's "Reverse Apartheid"

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '18

Not a white genocider here, but I have to state as I've done before that my main issue with all of this is the demonisation of a group for the country's problems, and there appears to be a theme when listening to the accounts of victims - there is often real hate for them simply because they are white, because they are farmers or because they "have a right" to be violent towards their victims. This is fuelled by rhetoric from politicians that goes unpunished, hardly even condemned. If you can't see that this grouping of people is dangerous and what it may lead to, I suggest you read up on, say, the Kulaks.

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u/killerofsheep Mar 19 '18

As a somewhat objective white person, I'll try give my opinion as to the reason.

What have white people (as a demographic/community) done to rectify the injustices of the past? It appears to most that the continued wealth inequality is reflective of white people maintaining their economic power at the continued expense of black people. Of course there is the rise in black wealth, and that the ANC is dealing with immense corruption.. yet this is not sufficient to appease millions of people living in poverty.

Poverty is almost exclusively a black and coloured issue, and near non-existant among white people. This dichotomy creates a tension that very few wish to deal with. Black people feel it is a result of Apartheid, and white people feel as if Apartheid is gone and its the ANC's fault.

So, poverty is a result of Apartheid and white people, and whites aren't doing enough/anything to fix that.

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u/Pm_me_de_steam_codes Mar 19 '18

What about all the white people that were born in a democratic South Africa?

The major problem I see is people selectively showing statistics in a way that encourages their agenda, if you look at the number of white people, vs the number of black people living in poverty there's a huge difference, but transfer those numbers into percentages and the gap is all of a sudden not that big. In my honest opinion, a lot of what's wrong with this country is MASSIVE population boom in the black demographic, and a mundane corrupt government that were never even capable of running the country without the population boom.

What I am trying to say, even if you take every cent every white person has in South Africa, and directly transfer it to the same amount of black people that are living in poverty, you're still going to sit with 23 million black people living in poverty. How is this going to solve anything?

Out of 45 million black people in our country, 28 million is living in poverty, that leaves 17 million above the poverty line, leading a lower class to upper class life, if anyone is capable of helping out the poverty stricken population, it surely makes sense that their own demographic will be more capable?

Even though these sort of things are never as black on white as many people try to make it out to be, there are a lot of factors to take into consideration, and it is not fair to try and blame it all on one group entirely.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '18

Of the corrupt politicians and those in power releases their wealth it would go a long way.

There are politicians in SA that aren’t even paying the taxes on their reported stolen money.